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"No. Gentleman should always offer to pay. " Should they | |||
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"I always try to pay for what I've had. I don't drink so I'm not paying for anyone else's booze at a meal " Oh god I hate that! I go out with the girls from work and I never really drink, especially if driving and I hate it when they say "we will just split it". How about no, you and your mate sank 2 bottles of wine at £24 each, meanwhile I spent £5 on my drinks! | |||
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"Of course. Why would anyone not unless the other can claim it on expenses." Haha, depends what's going on the expenses | |||
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"I usually pay. Same goes for hotels. And if I'm invited to someone's house I usually bring a bottle. However, I have not had they same treatment when I've hosted. Maybe it's just an age thing. " I would always bring a bottle as a guest. I just find it good manners | |||
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"It's funny, my attitude to this has changed. I used to take the old-fashioned view that the 'gentleman should pay', and I would take it as a sign that she didn't like me if she insisted on paying half (reasoning that she did NOT wish to be "obligated" to me). Now, however, I've got with the times and whilst I will always politely offer to pay, I no longer read anything in to whether or not she lets me. Tbh I like when she pays her way - I'm not actually a wealthy man! " My attitude has also changed. I am more than happy to pay but I won’t read anything negative into her wanting to pay either. | |||
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"I usually pay. Same goes for hotels. And if I'm invited to someone's house I usually bring a bottle. However, I have not had they same treatment when I've hosted. Maybe it's just an age thing. " Shame I’m above your age range. I’d be happy to go Dutch x | |||
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"Yes of course unless it was on the 21th October my birthday " Happy birthday!! | |||
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"Yes of course unless it was on the 21th October my birthday Happy birthday!!" Thank you | |||
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"Yes of course unless it was on the 21th October my birthday " Happy Birthday on Trafalgar Day | |||
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"If its my idea then I pay, if its his then he pays. I cannot be doing with fumbling at a table splitting up a bill it's embarrassing. If you invite someone out then it's your treat and vice versa, I am the same with friends. If there's no second date/meet well that's just how the cookie crumbles. Would always have the conversation prior to going out. " Exactly this | |||
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"How much is a packet of digestives these days?" Fortnums or Aldi? | |||
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"How much is a packet of digestives these days? Fortnums or Aldi?" Quicksave, own brand. | |||
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"How much is a packet of digestives these days? Fortnums or Aldi? Quicksave, own brand. " | |||
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"I always ask if we can go Dutch and split the bill. Sometimes though the guy will insist on paying. " I don't back down. If I say I'm paying my portion that's what happens. | |||
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"How much is a packet of digestives these days? Fortnums or Aldi? Quicksave, own brand. " Kwik Save.......??? not seen one for years | |||
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"Always offer to pay, if they say no and prefer to split or even pay themselves then accept. People know what they want and chivalry won't change that." | |||
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"I always insist on paying. I know it's an old world thing and I should be more comfortable with splitting it but for some reason, I'd just feel bad for it." Some people will think that is lovely and i'm sure you do too. You wouldn't pay for me if i'd decided i would pay for myself. Insisting is futile | |||
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"I always offer. I'm always told no. " And you do what you are told ? Not what you want. | |||
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"I always insist on paying. I know it's an old world thing and I should be more comfortable with splitting it but for some reason, I'd just feel bad for it. Some people will think that is lovely and i'm sure you do too. You wouldn't pay for me if i'd decided i would pay for myself. Insisting is futile " Just so you know when we meet i’ll be having a coffee and a raspberry & white chocolate muffin - probably a big biscuit thing too.. so get saving!! | |||
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"I always insist on paying. I know it's an old world thing and I should be more comfortable with splitting it but for some reason, I'd just feel bad for it. Some people will think that is lovely and i'm sure you do too. You wouldn't pay for me if i'd decided i would pay for myself. Insisting is futile Just so you know when we meet i’ll be having a coffee and a raspberry & white chocolate muffin - probably a big biscuit thing too.. so get saving!! " Todger you can have precisely what your heart desires.... and more. I'll be going out the lavvy window. | |||
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"I'd never go to eat with someone I was meeting for the first time. I'd expect to take turns buying a round of drinks. If they expected me to pay its unlikely I'd see them a second time" Wise. | |||
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"I'd never go to eat with someone I was meeting for the first time. I'd expect to take turns buying a round of drinks. If they expected me to pay its unlikely I'd see them a second time Wise. " Widser than you could ever know! You know how I type and it's all over the place? I'm a but like thst with cutlery, no one needs to be subjected to that | |||
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"Of course however it can sometimes be a little bit awkward when the other person insists on paying. Sorry pressed send to soon (thumb slip) In the past I've had the person say I've paid the bill but you can pay next time and I find that uncomfortable as it feels like somehow now they think I'm obligated to see them again. " Exactly, it's awkward af and can lead to very very sour grapes. I'd turn down a repeat based on this alone as it smacks of manipulation. In picking a place to meet I'd want somewhere you order and pay at the counter so I can avoid a 'bill' situation. | |||
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"I'd never go to eat with someone I was meeting for the first time. I'd expect to take turns buying a round of drinks. If they expected me to pay its unlikely I'd see them a second time Wise. Widser than you could ever know! You know how I type and it's all over the place? I'm a but like thst with cutlery, no one needs to be subjected to that " Don't get the spaghetti .... | |||
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"Absolutely no chance of me letting anyone pay. " Why? | |||
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"No she can pay for it all She was lucky enough to get a date with me in the first place so it's only fitting she coughs up the entirety of the bill And my taxi home" That's fair and I'll probably have to follow you back home in a different taxi, obviously paid by me, to hand out a shag. I'd be worried to refuse as this would only give more proof that us ladies become hysterical for no apparent reason. Are we talking about FAB meets or just general out and about as in reality I've never seen it as an issue, one of us will pick up the bill, no firm and fixed rules. Often wondered why Paul always nips to loo at end of meal, I'll be checking in future. | |||
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"Yes of course unless it was on the 21th October my birthday " HAPPY BIRTHDAY | |||
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"How much is a packet of digestives these days? Fortnums or Aldi? Quicksave, own brand. Kwik Save.......??? not seen one for years" Are they no longer about, you’ll have to excuse me Granny, I’m a bit out of touch, the domestic staff do the grocery shopping these days. | |||
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"No. Gentleman should always offer to pay. " Does this imply women are not earners, what about when two men meet up? | |||
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"Yes, or pay for it. If he's asked to take me to somewhere in particular he might want to pay though. In which case I'd take him somewhere next time. Some men like an argument over me paying and I hate public confrontations so I let him pay then tell him I'm paying next time. I'd slip him the cash if he felt embarrassed with me taking the bill at the table. In some places you can use the app and pay. That way no one knows he's my bitch " There's no shame in letting someone pay if they offer and that goes both ways, I would gladly be your "bitch" as long as everyone was happy. | |||
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"No. Gentleman should always offer to pay. Does this imply women are not earners, what about when two men meet up?" The gent should always pay? | |||
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"I insist on splitting the bill and equalling splitting it not counting down to the last penny you spend like I've know some people to do! So yeah 50/50 definitely " I've gone off bill splitting since we have a friend who eats of the expensive menu and always has pud and another that has a glass of wine or two ..... I am paying my own bill next time to have just what I ordered and ate on my own bill. I know it seems tight and if it were only once it would be. However it's every month now ..... | |||
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"Yes, or pay for it. If he's asked to take me to somewhere in particular he might want to pay though. In which case I'd take him somewhere next time. Some men like an argument over me paying and I hate public confrontations so I let him pay then tell him I'm paying next time. I'd slip him the cash if he felt embarrassed with me taking the bill at the table. In some places you can use the app and pay. That way no one knows he's my bitch There's no shame in letting someone pay if they offer and that goes both ways, I would gladly be your "bitch" as long as everyone was happy." oops ..... so the gent pays and the one who doesn't pay is the bitch of the other ....... oh dear the truth does out in mysterious ways | |||
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"If its my idea then I pay, if its his then he pays. I cannot be doing with fumbling at a table splitting up a bill it's embarrassing. If you invite someone out then it's your treat and vice versa, I am the same with friends. If there's no second date/meet well that's just how the cookie crumbles. Would always have the conversation prior to going out. " THIS! | |||
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"I’d normally excuse myself for the toilet and pay the bill en route so there can be no arguments over the bill. " a very elegant way... and despite my more feminist thinking, I think this is cute. | |||
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"Yes , and on any other meal fab or non fab I'd always offer too. " Do you fancy a spit roast, sorry split roast this weekend ? | |||
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"Yes , and on any other meal fab or non fab I'd always offer too. Do you fancy a spit roast, sorry split roast this weekend ? " My eyes still haven't recovered from watching your Dad dancing last weekend Blooms | |||
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"Yes , and on any other meal fab or non fab I'd always offer too. Do you fancy a spit roast, sorry split roast this weekend ? My eyes still haven't recovered from watching your Dad dancing last weekend Blooms " Harsh but fair | |||
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"??" yes. What I won't do is fight a man for a bill because I realise that some men's egos demand that they pay as the man. My ego is like whatever is easiest that doesn't harm me. I've had men on Fab just want me to come around for sex and when I mention a social meet at a restaurant, they automatically assume that I want them to pay for everything. Mate if you had a conversation with me, you would know we could go to Nandos for all I care and I will order and pay for my things at the till. I only had one guy suggest we go cycling instead as we both have bicycles and live near a popular cycling park. The rest are like come to my home and let me do whatever I want. F off for real. Men, Please definitely consider women's safety and comfort. | |||
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"Company Dutch. That was my line when dating just a few years ago: “The meal and drinks are on my company credit card, the rest of the night is on you”. It got a few laughs. You quickly learn with internet dating ( is there any other type these days?) for the first meeting to be a coffee date as you don’t want to waste an evening. " I find coffee dates so incredibly boring! like literally 30 minutes, one coffee and now I want to go home. Lol! I can't even think of a coffee date that I've had that went well! I've had a better date at the Victoria and Albert Museum than coffee dates! Don't say only men who do coffee dates are boring. Lol! | |||
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"It's very interesting to me that people will say 'call me old fashioned' or 'he insists so I let him.' ..... What is the basis of both those statements ..... what does being 'old fashioned' mean ? Do women who say oh okay when a man insists ...... only cave in when he's paying for something or do you cave at all his insistences... I'm genuinely interested .... ( p.s. I love a freebie as much as the next person and there's no moral judgement being made ) I'm just interested in the reasons behind the thoughts n actions ?" If a man won't accept that I am willing to split a bill or pay I'll give in easy. It's not the end of the world, and I'm not having an argument with someone over the price of fish and chips and a JD and cola. | |||
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"I would usually expect to pay: one of the few ways in which I am old-fashioned. For me, it's part of the pleasure of a date, though I'd never insist. BUT this thread has reminded me that a woman might think that I'd assume paying would confer some kind of entitlement, or assumptions. It doesn't matter that that wouldn't be true. She wouldn't drfinitely know that, and it might make her uncomfortable. The fact that I know I never would is irrelevant. The possibility would be there, and that might shadow the whole meeting. Oh, it's complicated. I try to do the right thing. I always cross the road if I'm walking behind a single woman, especially at night. Now I'm rethinking whether what I thought was generosity might come across as a tie, or a commitment, or... Damn it." I have had that. He insisted on paying then told me he had booked a room in a hotel miles away; assuming dinner meant dinner and sex. Lucky for him I wanted sex, but it was supposed to be just a social. | |||
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" I have had that. He insisted on paying then told me he had booked a room in a hotel miles away; assuming dinner meant dinner and sex. Lucky for him I wanted sex, but it was supposed to be just a social. " That's awful. I'm so far the other way. I joked with someone on here that unless a woman lies back, naked, legs open, on her bed, holding a neon sign saying "Fuck me now!", I won't spot the signals. I wasn't really joking. | |||
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