FabSwingers.com forum: Qatar World Cup

By *ull English with tea OP Man
over a year ago

London

Gotta admit, I’m in no way excited about this World Cup, seems very flat and I’ve always associated it with summer. Plus of course they paid their way to get it and have the human rights issues that FIFA ignored.

Maybe I’ll feel differently when it starts. But at the moment I couldn’t care and it feels very weird as I love, love, love big tournaments.

Anyone else feel the same?

NB this is more about the tournament as a whole rather than England’s prospects…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hummel and Denmark have done a little token protest against the Qatar regime by minimising the branding on their kits as they don’t want be associated with them. Good work!

It’s the timing isn’t it? Cant get excited about a November tournament but when we make the final things will perk up I’m sure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

I’m looking forward to it but not as much as I normally am for a WC. I begrudge it taking place in Qatar and it being part of thier sports washing project however when it all starts I’m sure it will be a great tournament

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It all feels very artificial and a big pair of fingers up for fans.

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By *ull English with tea OP Man
over a year ago

London

I think the other thing you’ll miss is the huge number of each countries fans attending and how noticeable that will be for the atmospheres in the stadiums and how that translates on TV…

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I wish I could be more excited, as my little country has qualified for the first time in 64yrs. But I can't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't get excited for this World Cup at all. I will watch the England games and be patriotic as always however I really am concerned particularly for any women or LBGTQ people going over.

I read in the paper the other day any woman who is sexually assaulted there risks imprisonment or flogging. The fact this country was ever awarded the World Cup in the 1st place is a disgrace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too."

There is only a 2 hour time difference exactly the same as it was what it was in Russia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Money money money ...this WC was bought , all the people that had any influence on the destination were given millions, FIFA sold their soul .

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

There is only a 2 hour time difference exactly the same as it was what it was in Russia. "

There's a lot of morning and early afternoon kick offs (10am, 1pm etc). That's UK time. I can see how people would think that's inconvenient (but it's going to be inconvenient somewhere in the world, to someone!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

There is only a 2 hour time difference exactly the same as it was what it was in Russia.

I forgot they were playing them earlier because of the heat.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll still watch it and support England but not a fan of it being in Qatar with the human rights violations that have gone into it and also not a fan of it being smack bang in the middle of the season where fixtures are already congested. Stupid, stupid idea and hopefully one that's never repeated

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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago

London

Normally I would be so excited just before a World Cup starts and counting down the days before kick off but this time it just doesn't feel the same as its being held in Qatar and also England have been in terrible form but I will still watch and cheer on the 3 Lions but I'm not sure we will get out of the group stages this time with Southgate still manager.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

I have no problems with it being in the middle East. And find it quite jarring and offensive that people begrudge it to be there.

Yes it was not given to Qatar in the most above board way. And the way they treated the workers was abysmal. But it was the same way Dubai treated their workers and everyone happily goes off on holiday there.

The bottom half of the world doesn't have a summer world cup. And I'm looking forward to the winter world cup as a novelty.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I have no problems with it being in the middle East. And find it quite jarring and offensive that people begrudge it to be there.

The bottom half of the world doesn't have a summer world cup. And I'm looking forward to the winter world cup as a novelty. "

I think many people would have the same issue with any country, irrespective of the geographical location, if the same sort of issues existed. It's not because it's a Middle Eastern country.

I don't have an issue with the time of year. I managed to watch Commonwealth and Olympic athletics from Australia and suchlike, and the Japan '98 world cup was at crazy times in UK terms.

It's purely the way in which the stadia have been built and the majority corrupt approach, that has irked me. I couldn't care less whether the country is M.E, north Africa, far East, South America or central Europe or whatever.

It's clear there's huge corruption issues across world football, but the awarding of the tournament to Qatar was another level of bad (on FIFAs side).

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"I can't get excited for this World Cup at all. I will watch the England games and be patriotic as always however I really am concerned particularly for any women or LBGTQ people going over.

I read in the paper the other day any woman who is sexually assaulted there risks imprisonment or flogging. The fact this country was ever awarded the World Cup in the 1st place is a disgrace. "

The organisers have assured that all will be welcome there and treated well, free of any persecution and have no need to worry for their personal safety.

People still have to understand they will be in a muslim country with muslim law amd traditions /culture so need to respect the laws and cultures of the country they are visiting.

Is it going to be the same as a WC in europe or america? No. But i wouldnt go believing everything i read in the papers or online either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a sham tournament, won by corruption and played in stadiums built with quasi sl-ve labour in a country with no modern concept of human rights. I've watched every World Cup since 1982 (which is still the greatest ever) but won't watch a second of this one.

Except if England reach the Final, obvs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really a football fan but I share similar thoughts when it comes to F1 and racing in the Middle East. Last year f1 had the whole “we race as one” movement but then still went to Saudi Arabia and Qatar where we already know the history of human rights, to make it worse there was an explosion at the pertronas factory in Saudi during one of the practice sessions and the fia still allowed everything to go on fine. As Lewis Hamilton said (this rings for all major events) “cash is king”

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums."

6500 of them.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Not really a football fan but I share similar thoughts when it comes to F1 and racing in the Middle East. Last year f1 had the whole “we race as one” movement but then still went to Saudi Arabia and Qatar where we already know the history of human rights, to make it worse there was an explosion at the pertronas factory in Saudi during one of the practice sessions and the fia still allowed everything to go on fine. As Lewis Hamilton said (this rings for all major events) “cash is king”"

But no-one baulks at Hungary, which has an atrocious record on human rights. Or China etc.

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By *ull English with tea OP Man
over a year ago

London

"I think it's a sham tournament, won by corruption and played in stadiums built with quasi sl-ve labour in a country with no modern concept of human rights. I've watched every World Cup since 1982 (which is still the greatest ever) but won't watch a second of this one.

Except if England reach the Final, obvs.

I was too young for 82 but Mexico 86 and Italia 90 were epic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't get excited for this World Cup at all. I will watch the England games and be patriotic as always however I really am concerned particularly for any women or LBGTQ people going over.

I read in the paper the other day any woman who is sexually assaulted there risks imprisonment or flogging. The fact this country was ever awarded the World Cup in the 1st place is a disgrace.

The organisers have assured that all will be welcome there and treated well, free of any persecution and have no need to worry for their personal safety.

People still have to understand they will be in a muslim country with muslim law amd traditions /culture so need to respect the laws and cultures of the country they are visiting.

Is it going to be the same as a WC in europe or america? No. But i wouldnt go believing everything i read in the papers or online either"

They can assure all they like it doesn't mean people will be treated in a humane way.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"I have no problems with it being in the middle East. And find it quite jarring and offensive that people begrudge it to be there.

The bottom half of the world doesn't have a summer world cup. And I'm looking forward to the winter world cup as a novelty.

I think many people would have the same issue with any country, irrespective of the geographical location, if the same sort of issues existed. It's not because it's a Middle Eastern country.

I don't have an issue with the time of year. I managed to watch Commonwealth and Olympic athletics from Australia and suchlike, and the Japan '98 world cup was at crazy times in UK terms.

It's clear there's huge corruption issues across world football, but the awarding of the tournament to Qatar was another level of bad (on FIFAs side). "

That's you, an educated intelligent person.

Many I have encountered have a problem with it not because of women's rights, LGB issues, but because it's had to move to the winter, or "they don't know anything about football" why should it be there? Or because they can't get a beer there..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

6500 of them."

Not according to Gary Neville in his Qatari sponsored PR Job.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Gotta admit, I’m in no way excited about this World Cup, seems very flat and I’ve always associated it with summer. Plus of course they paid their way to get it and have the human rights issues that FIFA ignored.

Maybe I’ll feel differently when it starts. But at the moment I couldn’t care and it feels very weird as I love, love, love big tournaments.

Anyone else feel the same?

NB this is more about the tournament as a whole rather than England’s prospects…"

Yep it's shite... Warm SU. Mer nights watching football in the beer gardens with a few beers? No... Freezing in winter of discontent and dark nights watching alone in the cold...

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I can't get excited for this World Cup at all. I will watch the England games and be patriotic as always however I really am concerned particularly for any women or LBGTQ people going over.

I read in the paper the other day any woman who is sexually assaulted there risks imprisonment or flogging. The fact this country was ever awarded the World Cup in the 1st place is a disgrace.

The organisers have assured that all will be welcome there and treated well, free of any persecution and have no need to worry for their personal safety.

People still have to understand they will be in a muslim country with muslim law amd traditions /culture so need to respect the laws and cultures of the country they are visiting.

Is it going to be the same as a WC in europe or america? No. But i wouldnt go believing everything i read in the papers or online either"

Whaaat! I'm outraged.. What do you mean they won't tolerate the d*unken hooligans fighting and shitting in the street or disrespecting their local culture. That's terrible.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Except if England reach the Final, obvs.

Think you'll safely not need to watch any of it then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Except if England reach the Final, obvs.

Think you'll safely not need to watch any of it then "

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

But no-one baulks at Hungary, which has an atrocious record on human rights. Or China etc.

Or America or Mexico or Thailand or Turkey or.. The list goes on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But no-one baulks at Hungary, which has an atrocious record on human rights. Or China etc.

Hungary has been pulled up a couple of times and Vettel has had great fun wearing lgbt colours on his helmet or wearing shirts for equality

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By *eavy-Metal-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

To me this world cup will be a huge bore and with it starting in November and in a Nation that has no Football pedigree it baffling. Also I bet we see more injuries and clubs holding back players (which if I was in charge of Liverpool I would). Also why should I support players that for most of the season I want them to lose when playing with there clubs. I rather have Liverpool winning the Prem and Champions League again then England winning anything #Club before Country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me it's not the time of year it's the country it's being hosted in. This World Cup has literally been paid for in blood

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough / Kettering

It's a ridiculous choice of venue! Not exactly a huge footballing nation are they? My concern is if you worked in a UK factory simply putting things in boxes all day and you were asked to fo it in 45 degree heat I think the HSE would be paying a visit yet we are expecting these men to run around for 90 minutes in the same heat! Anyone remember the WC in the USA 1994 and what happened to some of the players? Well this place is even hotter !! I'm guessing a lot of people are walking around with big fat wallets right now stuffed with cash !!

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford

I've watched every World Cup since I was 8 (Mexico '86, so a fantastic introduction): I won't be watching this. The awarding process was openly corrupted, many thousands of migrant workers were killed, and 10,000s brutally exploited, and it's ruined the proper football seasons throughout Europe.

I'm all for expanding the list of places that get to hold a World Cup to places outside Europe. South Korea/Japan was great, South Africa, and I'd love to see one in a great African nation with a fine football tradition - Nigeria, for example. But holding THE global football tournament in a country with no stadia and no football history would be like holding the world sand-dune racing championship in Svalbard. The whole thing is completely about money, and whilst that it always true to some extent, it has never been so nakedly and shamefully open before.

As far as I'm concerned, this tournament is worse than pointless. It's an eternal scar on the face of world football. And I wish fans were strong enough to boycott it. The only way we can ensure it never happens again is to ensure it is a financial catastrophe for the sponsors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not looking forward to it at all. Don't have the same feeling of excitement. Doing my Christmas shopping at the same time as a World Cup just seems surreal.

Quatar a country with no real history of hosting major sports events hosting the largest sporting event in the world. What could possibly go wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me it's not the time of year it's the country it's being hosted in. This World Cup has literally been paid for in blood"

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I have been to Qatar a few times. Firstly in regard to the country itself.

It runs a tier system of society where if you are Qatari then you can do no wrong. You can treat migrant workers like sl@ves and will always come out on top in any dispute. As a Qatari male you can happily go in nightclubs and get d*unk and pick up prostitutes. No Qatari ladies are allowed in to watch such hypocrisy. You can always tell a Qatari as they don’t have to queue.

The next level is white migrants and see above apart from queuing and disputes.

Then you have the rest. Treated like shit. Murdered in some cases and nobody bats an eye. Or worked to death to die of “natural” causes.

There are no photograph zones and heavy CCTV so anyone going has to be careful not to fall foul of these. Also be careful as to what car you get into on the excellent metro as some are for families not single males.

It’s basically like Milton Keynes in the desert. Brand spanking new with World Cup stadiums built on blood one after another. You can practically see each stadium from one another it’s that’s small.

Beer is quite expensive but they will be bringing the price down. And to be honest human rights issues aside. If you are going somewhere that has restrictions because of the culture then you should respect it. Not being able to get tanked up in public and inside the games isn’t the end of the world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t watch soccer at the best of times, normally might watch an England game if it was on in the local.

This is the only one I’m actively boycotting over human rights in the country and their support for ISIS and the Taliban, not least for the 6,500+ migrant “workers” that died in the construction of the stadium.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

6500 of them."

I wonder if Southgate and the team will take a knee for them?

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

For me it’s everything associated with this World Cup. The obvious and ridiculous level of corruption has tainted this from the start.

I will be watching but nothing about it feels right. The heat will be crippling for many teams, hardly any fans will attend as either laws or lack of affordable hotels preclude them… the morals surrounding this are very grey

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"For me it’s everything associated with this World Cup. The obvious and ridiculous level of corruption has tainted this from the start.

There'll be plenty of fifa liggers attending don't worry. 24 million ticket requests.. 3 million tickets... Football has plenty of money

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

6500 of them.

I wonder if Southgate and the team will take a knee for them?"

They might have a pretty little arm band though... Or maybe laces..

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By *ames5169Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

It just seems weird to be watching a World Cup when it could be snowing outside!

It’s normally bbq or pub and lots of beer !

We will have to adapt I guess

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"It just seems weird to be watching a World Cup when it could be snowing outside!

It’s normally bbq or pub and lots of beer !

We will have to adapt I guess "

Exactly.. We will find out soon enough but some things work and don't need to change.

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

I am really excited. Already put two bets.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"For me it’s everything associated with this World Cup. The obvious and ridiculous level of corruption has tainted this from the start.

There'll be plenty of fifa liggers attending don't worry. 24 million ticket requests.. 3 million tickets... Football has plenty of money "

Approximately 20,000 hotel rooms at over £200 per night… the maths doesn’t add up.

None of this has ever been done with the actual fans in mind

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"For me it’s everything associated with this World Cup. The obvious and ridiculous level of corruption has tainted this from the start.

There'll be plenty of fifa liggers attending don't worry. 24 million ticket requests.. 3 million tickets... Football has plenty of money

Approximately 20,000 hotel rooms at over £200 per night… the maths doesn’t add up.

None of this has ever been done with the actual fans in mind"

Agree... Heard a thing on the radio they were dropping a load of shipping containers in the desert... You know the ones... 199 a night.

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By *ussieInDubMan
over a year ago

Raheny

See that’s the issue you read the papers I live here it’s not like that at all

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By *ussieInDubMan
over a year ago

Raheny

You do realise it will only be about 25 degrees if that during the tournament, or you just read papers and take all information as true ..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"See that’s the issue you read the papers I live here it’s not like that at all "

Very true... Give us the Qatar correspondents view.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums."

Eh … died rather than “were killed”? I know what you’re saying though. I used to visit the Middle East but stopped going years ago as it just didn’t feel right, the level of exploitation of a very poor workforce, and very poor human rights.

I found the attitude of expats disgusting, that they are able to turn a blind eye to exploitation, and not worry about human rights stuff (“oh you’ll be fine as long as you keep your head down”). As long as they were able to coin it in tax-free they were happy to ignore the ugly stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its really rubbish timings too isn't it? Also any lgbt+ fans going will be on edge the entire time (I think similar happened in Russia). Its quite clear they got it because of money

. I know a few teams (including england) are wearing lgbt+ armbands as support but I really don't think that'll make a difference x

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

Isn't that what the entire western civilisation is based on.?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Its really rubbish timings too isn't it? Also any lgbt+ fans going will be on edge the entire time (I think similar happened in Russia). Its quite clear they got it because of money

. I know a few teams (including england) are wearing lgbt+ armbands as support but I really don't think that'll make a difference x"

No but they'll be selling replica armbands for 20 quid a pop... Ironically made by people in dreadful conditions and paid a pittance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too."

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back! "

Plus the Japan WC was on at very inconvenient times, but no-one seemed terribly bothered by that. It must have been pretty warm and humid too, come to think of it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back!

Plus the Japan WC was on at very inconvenient times, but no-one seemed terribly bothered by that. It must have been pretty warm and humid too, come to think of it?"

I was at school and we were allowed to go home/come in late on match days. I was never going to complain about that

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back!

Plus the Japan WC was on at very inconvenient times, but no-one seemed terribly bothered by that. It must have been pretty warm and humid too, come to think of it?

I was at school and we were allowed to go home/come in late on match days. I was never going to complain about that

I was at school too, and we were NOT allowed to come in late!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back! "

I think the first match is 1pm. That’ll be a massive inconvenience to a lot of people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The matches are on at very inconvenient times too.

Be a 3hr time difference after our clocks go back!

Plus the Japan WC was on at very inconvenient times, but no-one seemed terribly bothered by that. It must have been pretty warm and humid too, come to think of it?

I was at school and we were allowed to go home/come in late on match days. I was never going to complain about that

I was at school too, and we were NOT allowed to come in late! "

It was sort of unofficial at our school. Nobody turned in for the first match so they just accepted it.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Maybe I’ll feel differently when it starts. But at the moment I couldn’t care and it feels very weird as I love, love, love big tournaments.

Anyone else feel the same?

NB this is more about the tournament as a whole rather than England’s prospects…"
yes I do qatar is an Arab nation the Arabs are anti western world by the nature of their religion they actually worship money and that's the only reason its being played there, I've followed world Cup football all my life this may be one occasion I don't

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

Isn't that what the entire western civilisation is based on.? "

Not quite …

I don’t have servants who are payed a pittance, and whose passports are under my control. Hundreds of labourers did not die building my local town in inhuman working conditions. My local gay neighbours have not been locked up. I could go on …

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

The way England played against Italy...The team bus only needs reverse gears

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

Shouldn't be happening there and half way through the real football.

It's pathetic teams and players pretending to care about civil rights abuses. If they really cared and wanted to make a point they wouldn't go. Like Northern Ireland and Scotland. I'm proud of these two British teams for boycotting it.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Shouldn't be happening there and half way through the real football.

What is the real football? It's a WORLD cup. South America football runs from Feb/march/April to November/December.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This virtue signalling by European nations is a bit hypocritical given that all European nations playing in the World Cup were part of the alliance which illegally invaded Iraq… now that’s something to protest against!

But - Europe and America has a habit of telling the world what is right and what is wrong.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"Shouldn't be happening there and half way through the real football.

What is the real football? It's a WORLD cup. South America football runs from Feb/march/April to November/December. "

The leagues are the real football. Should be happening in June as usual and in a normal country.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Weird feeling

Over the moon that Cymru are finally there, but hate the fact it’s in Qatar for all sorts of reasons.

Yma o Hyd

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

Maybe I’ll feel differently when it starts. But at the moment I couldn’t care and it feels very weird as I love, love, love big tournaments.

Anyone else feel the same?

NB this is more about the tournament as a whole rather than England’s prospects…"

Human rights, exploitation of workers, horrible attitudes towards women and lgbtq, inequalities in society - yes these are all good reasons why the event should never have been allowed there*

However, time zones and season of year? Just record the damn thing and watch at a time and date more suiting to your own body clock.

*Note: For same reasons many other countries should be eliminated from consideration and taking part, but this would mean extreme difficulty finding anyone to host or compete.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I disagree with the World Cup being held in Qatar the UK are no saints. We’ve been dropping bombs since bombs were invented. We’ve got no moral high ground when it comes to the actions of other countries.

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over a year ago

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Shouldn't be happening there and half way through the real football.

What is the real football? It's a WORLD cup. South America football runs from Feb/march/April to November/December.

The leagues are the real football. Should be happening in June as usual and in a normal country. "

Like I said, the south American leagues finish in November. So they have had less disruption with it being held in November.

What is a normal country?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can’t wait for it to start !

I don’t like football but I do love the World Cup.

Pondering if I should buy the French shirt with Benzema on it ?!

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"Can’t wait for it to start !

I don’t like football but I do love the World Cup.

Pondering if I should buy the French shirt with Benzema on it ?! "
buy the one with benzene on it it'll get you further

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over a year ago

"Can’t wait for it to start !

I don’t like football but I do love the World Cup.

Pondering if I should buy the French shirt with Benzema on it ?! buy the one with benzene on it it'll get you further

had to reread twice because I did not notice at first

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"Can’t wait for it to start !

I don’t like football but I do love the World Cup.

Pondering if I should buy the French shirt with Benzema on it ?! buy the one with benzene on it it'll get you further

had to reread twice because I did not notice at first "
lol

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Maybe I’ll feel differently when it starts. But at the moment I couldn’t care and it feels very weird as I love, love, love big tournaments.

Anyone else feel the same?

NB this is more about the tournament as a whole rather than England’s prospects…

Human rights, exploitation of workers, horrible attitudes towards women and lgbtq, inequalities in society - yes these are all good reasons why the event should never have been allowed there*

However, time zones and season of year? Just record the damn thing and watch at a time and date more suiting to your own body clock.

*Note: For same reasons many other countries should be eliminated from consideration and taking part, but this would mean extreme difficulty finding anyone to host or compete."

Yes if it only allowed those to host or compete who had no history of regrettable events... You'd struggle to fill it.

As for recording it... Nah.. Its only live once.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"This virtue signalling by European nations is a bit hypocritical given that all European nations playing in the World Cup were part of the alliance which illegally invaded Iraq… now that’s something to protest against!

But - Europe and America has a habit of telling the world what is right and what is wrong.

Can you think of any countries that don’t think that they are the ones who are right? Everyone does this

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

The Football World Cup come round every 4 years and as a football fan I will be watching it.Not sure of the time zone but I am sure there will be a evening highlights to watch so I make do with that.It will be interesting watching it when it’s cold outside but it is what it is.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I feel sorry for all the migrant workers who were exploited or killed building the stadiums.

Isn't that what the entire western civilisation is based on.?

Not quite …

I was referring to your point.. As long as people coin it in they ignore the ugly stuff

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

As I am going, I wasn’t looking forward up till this weekend

But the buz hit - doing 6 guaranteed games in 12 days - with potentially a 7th if england get out the group

I am actually really looking forward to catching up with mates and seeing what the stadiums are like

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Before anyone starts about lgbt or human rights issues - we have raised concerns

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic demonstrations against it this weekend in Germany. And Gary Neville shredded on HIGNFY for his hypocrisy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bound to fixed. Platini and Blatter running it from the can.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

There seems to be a whole range of moans and whining mostly from people a/ not normally the slightest bit bothered about human rights issues at home or globally and b/ people who have never been to the gulf / Middle East , know nothing about it other than what they read on Facebook

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

Here you buy an alcohol licence, locals can’t but I can. I can drink in bars , some restaurants and my own place, but not in the street or on the train. Sex wise - everyone is doing it , and I have openly gay colleagues too. Just not on the beach or in the elevators

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"There seems to be a whole range of moans and whining mostly from people a/ not normally the slightest bit bothered about human rights issues at home or globally and b/ people who have never been to the gulf / Middle East , know nothing about it other than what they read on Facebook

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll not be having it on in my house or supporting it in any way.

Don't just pay lipservice to objections. If you really mean it then you ought to show it through non-viewings of tv and no merchandising purchases.

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"It's a ridiculous choice of venue! Not exactly a huge footballing nation are they? My concern is if you worked in a UK factory simply putting things in boxes all day and you were asked to fo it in 45 degree heat I think the HSE would be paying a visit yet we are expecting these men to run around for 90 minutes in the same heat! Anyone remember the WC in the USA 1994 and what happened to some of the players? Well this place is even hotter !! I'm guessing a lot of people are walking around with big fat wallets right now stuffed with cash !! "

Its not going to be anywhere near that heat over there. Which was the reason for moving it to winter time. Its 30 degrees there now, at 4 o clock in the afternoon. So no different to a european WC and prob cooler than in the US or south america

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This WC was given to Qutar to spread the word of football ( so they said anyway ..eyes roll...it really was all about money money money ) ..so that people in the World would know the Soccer players ,Sepp Blatter was asked did he know any Qutar players and all he could think of was Eric Clapton

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Best place for it.

Shame the TV companies don't boycott it too.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Hummel and Denmark have done a little token protest against the Qatar regime by minimising the branding on their kits as they don’t want be associated with them. Good work!

It’s the timing isn’t it? Cant get excited about a November tournament but when we make the final things will perk up I’m sure!

I like that danish all black kit….

To think it starts in 2 weeks and it just doesn’t feel like it… I mean… the 26 is announced on Thursday!!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Only good thing for me is that the England USA game is the day after thanksgiving on Black Friday…

So I will still be in recovery mode!!!

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"Before anyone starts about lgbt or human rights issues - we have raised concerns "

You dont need to justify yourself to anyone in here

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?"

Probably the same as on Dubai. Who many from this country like to go there on holiday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the whole country feels the same. It's been bought, feels like a fakeshow

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By *ull English with tea OP Man
over a year ago

London

"As I am going, I wasn’t looking forward up till this weekend

But the buz hit - doing 6 guaranteed games in 12 days - with potentially a 7th if england get out the group

I am actually really looking forward to catching up with mates and seeing what the stadiums are like "

How much is all that costing you if you don’t mind me asking?

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over a year ago

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?

Probably the same as on Dubai. Who many from this country like to go there on holiday. "

Also a no from me.

In so far as I can tell what is from where, I'll put my money in the pockets of those I don't morally object to.

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over a year ago

"As I am going, I wasn’t looking forward up till this weekend

But the buz hit - doing 6 guaranteed games in 12 days - with potentially a 7th if england get out the group

I am actually really looking forward to catching up with mates and seeing what the stadiums are like "

I'm sure the folk who cheered and jeered at the coliseum had their reasons too

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?"

How many died? It’s sad, but likely much safer and better paid than the work in their own countries that’s why they come.

What’s your thoughts on their life’s and health and safety in the workplace before migrating to the gulf ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

We won't be spending any time in the Middle East. We work with students from across that area and actually, many of them fundamentally disagree with the way their countries are run, but of course, saying that over there might get you executed.

I have counselled numerous homosexual Middle Eastern students in my time and I can tell you that they are deeply psychologically impacted by the fact they cannot be themselves to their families and because they will be forced into a heterosexual marriage. Just because some Westerners get to do their own thing - this does not apply to citizens of those countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?

Probably the same as on Dubai. Who many from this country like to go there on holiday. "

Never understood why anyone would come here for a holiday, it’s quite a boring place , generally people live & work here for one reason, because life is so much better than where they come from. Something like 80-90% of the population are immigrants , primarily from India and Pakistan

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great."

That’s just culture, arranged marriages happen in the uk you know, just like you describe , it’s very common. But you choose to live there ?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I should start a who is going to be in the squad post.. but I dunno if I can be arsed!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great.

That’s just culture, arranged marriages happen in the uk you know, just like you describe , it’s very common. But you choose to live there ? "

Eh? We don't live in the Middle East and never have done. We are involved in the education of international students here in the UK. I'm sorry but these young people do not get any choice if they are homosexual and we are talking about people developing significant mental health problems due to "arranged" (forced) marriage. It's not to be taken lightly. I've dealt with students who have received death threats from family members if they refuse to do as requested and many students are obligated to return home after studying because they are sponsored by their Govt. They have absolutely no choice.

As a foreigner over there, you are well shielded from the realities.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great.

That’s just culture, arranged marriages happen in the uk you know, just like you describe , it’s very common. But you choose to live there ?

As a foreigner over there, you are well shielded from the realities. "

I’m saying it happens in the uk too with uk citizens from those same backgrounds, it’s cultural. It’s a uk Problem too now.

I’m not shielded at all. I’ve been coming to the Middle East for over 20 years I know exactly what goes on here and in the uk.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great.

That’s just culture, arranged marriages happen in the uk you know, just like you describe , it’s very common. But you choose to live there ?

As a foreigner over there, you are well shielded from the realities.

I’m saying it happens in the uk too with uk citizens from those same backgrounds, it’s cultural. It’s a uk Problem too now.

I’m not shielded at all. I’ve been coming to the Middle East for over 20 years I know exactly what goes on here and in the uk. "

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

While you're defending the regime, what's your thoughts on the amount of people who died building stadiums?

How many died? It’s sad, but likely much safer and better paid than the work in their own countries that’s why they come.

What’s your thoughts on their life’s and health and safety in the workplace before migrating to the gulf ? "

How many died? Roughly 2 a day. Everyday. For a decade.

I'm not sure the whatifism of your second point is even worth acknowledging.

Do yiu think that level of death (and if that's the mortality rate I dread to think how many are injured) is acceptable?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/revealed-migrant-worker-deaths-qatar-fifa-world-cup-2022

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By *lean_CutMan
over a year ago

Rasen area

I always look forward to stuff like the World Cup, and the Euros, but I rarely watch football, otherwise, these days.. I’m not really excited about this one, though..

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over a year ago

Qatar is not the uk, it’s very different. It’s complex, very complex you have religion, laws, non secularism, traditions , culture and then on top of that tourists from very different countries.

You won't get an honest opinion/appraisal of life in the Middle East from a citizen, while they are in that country because the risks are too great.

That’s just culture, arranged marriages happen in the uk you know, just like you describe , it’s very common. But you choose to live there ?

As a foreigner over there, you are well shielded from the realities.

I’m saying it happens in the uk too with uk citizens from those same backgrounds, it’s cultural. It’s a uk Problem too now.

I’m not shielded at all. I’ve been coming to the Middle East for over 20 years I know exactly what goes on here and in the uk.

At least here in the UK there are places a young person in that situation can go for help. It is illegal to discriminate on sexual orientation and illegal to force marriage. Students from the Middle East do not have those protections, ergo it's a completely different situation. Until you've had to deal with the trauma of it, I don't think you'd understand. These young people are mentally scarred. Terrified of returning home but bounded to do so by systems of guardianship and because their education is sponsored. "
slightly off topic of the WC, but what are your views of western companies going to these places? I'm conflicted... On the one hand it supports a regime I don't like ... On the other hand I think things will change quicker if there is a mix of cultures ...

On the WC, I'm angry FIFA have given this to a country who either can only make it work by risking lives, or are profiteering from deaths.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

" slightly off topic of the WC, but what are your views of western companies going to these places? I'm conflicted... On the one hand it supports a regime I don't like ... On the other hand I think things will change quicker if there is a mix of cultures ...

On the WC, I'm angry FIFA have given this to a country who either can only make it work by risking lives, or are profiteering from deaths. "

Similarly conflicted. Also often conflicted with the impact of my job. Ultimately, we are educating people who then go back to work in their country, by and large. I just hope that the impact we can have will push developments back at home (not just in the ME) and eventually drive equality and improved rights etc. Perhaps I daydream though?

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over a year ago

On the WC, I'm angry FIFA have given this to a country who either can only make it work by risking lives, or are profiteering from deaths.

I think it a daydream. For many years it was claimed that human rights and democracy in China would improve with greater engagement and trade. Instead they've got worse while the one party State has got stronger. The same seems to be the pattern in the Middle East.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

On the WC, I'm angry FIFA have given this to a country who either can only make it work by risking lives, or are profiteering from deaths.

Thanks Leo, that's really got me motivated for the work tomorrow

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over a year ago

On the WC, I'm angry FIFA have given this to a country who either can only make it work by risking lives, or are profiteering from deaths.

Thanks Leo, that's really got me motivated for the work tomorrow

New username: CallMeCassandra

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Winter sport sucks balls

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

"Fantastic demonstrations against it this weekend in Germany. And Gary Neville shredded on HIGNFY for his hypocrisy.

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Ian Hislop in brilliant form... as usual

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

"Only good thing for me is that the England USA game is the day after thanksgiving on Black Friday…

So I will still be in recovery mode!!! "

Which Black Friday is that? It runs for longer than I'm a nonentity these days

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By *scouple07Couple
over a year ago

louth, Ireland

Really looking forward to it but that's only due to Wales qualifying for 1st time in my lifetime

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Really looking forward to it but that's only due to Wales qualifying for 1st time in my lifetime

Mr "

I hope we beat ya lol (can’t wait actually though giving Welsh mates stick already)

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By *scouple07Couple
over a year ago

louth, Ireland

"Really looking forward to it but that's only due to Wales qualifying for 1st time in my lifetime

I hope we beat ya lol (can’t wait actually though giving Welsh mates stick already) "

Don't count your chickens just yet

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

At the end of the day FIFA under Blatter was corrupt which is one reason why Qatar was awarded the World Cup.Yes migrants workers have been paid a pittance and some have died building the stadiums and hotels to host the World Cup.Yes Qatar is not the most tolerant to the LGBT community.However let’s be honest all that will be forgotten if England make the last 4.I always look forward to the football World Cup it would be great if Argentina with Messi playing a staring role can win the World Cup.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

I'm not going to watch it I'm standing my ground who's with me

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"Fantastic demonstrations against it this weekend in Germany. And Gary Neville shredded on HIGNFY for his hypocrisy.

Ian Hislop in brilliant form... as usual

This is a guy who is employed by the bbc, who are the lead broadcaster as this world cup.

Funny how hes still taking their money. Presumbly he has lobbied them not to broadcast it?

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over a year ago

"Fantastic demonstrations against it this weekend in Germany. And Gary Neville shredded on HIGNFY for his hypocrisy.

Ian Hislop in brilliant form... as usual

This is a guy who is employed by the bbc, who are the lead broadcaster as this world cup.

Funny how hes still taking their money. Presumbly he has lobbied them not to broadcast it? "

HIGNFY is not made by the BBC so Hislop doesnt work for them.

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"Fantastic demonstrations against it this weekend in Germany. And Gary Neville shredded on HIGNFY for his hypocrisy.

Ian Hislop in brilliant form... as usual

This is a guy who is employed by the bbc, who are the lead broadcaster as this world cup.

Funny how hes still taking their money. Presumbly he has lobbied them not to broadcast it?

HIGNFY is not made by the BBC so Hislop doesnt work for them."

It is produced exclusively for the bbc and always has been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world Cup is 10 days away and iv never known the run up to be so flat.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"The world Cup is 10 days away and iv never known the run up to be so flat. "

It’s a bit different for me. In my non swinging life - I have at least 1 WA group for england fans in doha, 1 for people in my apartment area, 1 for people wanting to play football. 1 for lads I go to football with

I am buzzing but agreed it’s really flat.

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over a year ago

"The world Cup is 10 days away and iv never known the run up to be so flat.

I am buzzing but agreed it’s really flat. "

I mean I will probably watch the England games and maybe now we are getting closer there may be more hype. I haven't even seen the normal advertising you get with world cups like television offers or food deals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cannot stand football so will not watch a ball kicked and don’t care who wins

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By *ull English with tea OP Man
over a year ago

London

"The world Cup is 10 days away and iv never known the run up to be so flat.

I am buzzing but agreed it’s really flat.

Maybe the retailers think that focusing on Christmas is a better bet? Who knows but agree it’s all very strange. Maybe once the Premier League stops that will help?

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over a year ago

"The world Cup is 10 days away and iv never known the run up to be so flat.

I am buzzing but agreed it’s really flat.

Maybe the retailers think that focusing on Christmas is a better bet? Who knows but agree it’s all very strange. Maybe once the Premier League stops that will help? "

Yes that's a point as I suppose we don't normally have a World Cup anyone near Christmas. My husband suggested maybe also brands don't want to be associated with Qatar.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

Vast majority of people will shout their dislike and disagreement of the choice of host country for multiple of reasons, but at the end of the day they will still show support of it by watching it.

Football is greater than all to a lot of people and nothing will ever discourage them from that.

Boycotting it won't really change much, money has already traded hands, deals made, rich got richer etc but it goes a hell of a long way toward standing by principles and self values. There is a chance though, that the less successful overall this World Cup is, that some of the same choices won't be made for the next...

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By *dventurous biMan
over a year ago

tesside

Guess I will watch the England games, but won’t sit and watch any of the others.

Won’t watch the pre and post match stuff on the commercial channels, regardless of who played.

In fact, at this stage I’m inclined to boycott all the stuff that needs advertising revenue and watch England games screened live by ITV as BBC highlights.

The whole bidding process frauds plus the appalling treatment of migrant workers is as wrong as wrong can be.

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By *ad66Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Over 6,000 deaths in the construction of the stadiums & associated works, all countries should have boycotted this tournament

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By *r SensualMan
over a year ago

London

Me too OP… I’m a big football fan but cannot say I have the same excitement for this World Cup as I have previous ones. Gareth Southgate and his style of play with this England team doesn’t fill me with much hope too.

With all the stuff around human rights in Qatar, I can’t say I’m thrilled about the tournament being hosted there either, plus the disruption it’s caused to the domestic football season

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Over 6,000 deaths in the construction of the stadiums & associated works, all countries should have boycotted this tournament "

Amazingly that has been downplayed by at least 2 posters on the thread, it's awful.

If you ignore everything else thst is wrong with Qatar getting this championship, those 6000 dead are 100% down to FIFA andvtgisevwhontook the bungs to award a championship to a country with no infrastructure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Barely care at the best of times.

This would be the worst.

It's a no from me lads.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Over 6,000 deaths in the construction of the stadiums & associated works, all countries should have boycotted this tournament

Amazingly that has been downplayed by at least 2 posters on the thread, it's awful.

Ok with the fact you’re gay that you can be sent to prison. Yes it should never had been given to Qatar. But now it has and we are 10 days from the start.

Actually it does have infustructure, yes you can drink, yes you can even buy pork

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