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" thanks for this Fabio. Kind of undecided. But it’s a piece of history and the last chance we’ll get. And London is just up the road. So you may have tipped the scales in favour of going. I’m glad you found it a beautiful thing. " Go, Dan ! Once In a lifetime. | |||
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"I don’t know if I should open a new one.. heck I just have So I went to the Lying in state in Edinburgh… so glad I did! As an aside… loads of people from the north east and Cumbria had the same idea as me as it would be easier to get up there than go down to London… If anyone in the north or Scotland has today off I would still strongly suggest people go… For those going in London… small bag, bottle of water, comfy shoes But it was beautiful… " I would like to go to Edinburgh for the lying in state as less busy etc than what it's going to be in London but unfortunately too short notice for me especially considering the distance to Edinburgh. Watched coverage of it on tv though and found it very moving, sad yet beautiful. | |||
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"While I had never considered seeing her lying in state I am genuinely sad that I won't see her pass by on her way to London later this week. I'd have really liked to have seen the Royal train" Is she going on the train now? I heard she was being flown instead. May have changed though. | |||
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" As an aside… loads of people from the north east and Cumbria had the same idea as me as it would be easier to get up there than go down to London… " They probably saw your post on here and thought that’s a good idea | |||
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"While I had never considered seeing her lying in state I am genuinely sad that I won't see her pass by on her way to London later this week. I'd have really liked to have seen the Royal train Is she going on the train now? I heard she was being flown instead. May have changed though. " Oh the article i saw was that the royal train would be used along the East cost mainline. That was a few days ago and I suspect flying may make more sense | |||
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"While I had never considered seeing her lying in state I am genuinely sad that I won't see her pass by on her way to London later this week. I'd have really liked to have seen the Royal train Is she going on the train now? I heard she was being flown instead. May have changed though. Oh the article i saw was that the royal train would be used along the East cost mainline. That was a few days ago and I suspect flying may make more sense" RAF are flying her down with her daughter escorting the coffin, to Northholt then by hearse to Westminster.. | |||
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"While I had never considered seeing her lying in state I am genuinely sad that I won't see her pass by on her way to London later this week. I'd have really liked to have seen the Royal train Is she going on the train now? I heard she was being flown instead. May have changed though. Oh the article i saw was that the royal train would be used along the East cost mainline. That was a few days ago and I suspect flying may make more sense RAF are flying her down with her daughter escorting the coffin, to Northholt then by hearse to Westminster.." Yeah I just read it. She’s going to the palace though for the night and then Westminster tomorrow until the funeral x | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed?" I would think so. I think the coffin is shut for good now. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? I would think so. I think the coffin is shut for good now. " That's a point, I hadn't thought of that | |||
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"While I had never considered seeing her lying in state I am genuinely sad that I won't see her pass by on her way to London later this week. I'd have really liked to have seen the Royal train Is she going on the train now? I heard she was being flown instead. May have changed though. Oh the article i saw was that the royal train would be used along the East cost mainline. That was a few days ago and I suspect flying may make more sense RAF are flying her down with her daughter escorting the coffin, to Northholt then by hearse to Westminster.. Yeah I just read it. She’s going to the palace though for the night and then Westminster tomorrow until the funeral x" | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed?" She was probably embalmed shortly after her death and they may have cooling pads in the bottom of the coffin x | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed?" There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? She was probably embalmed shortly after her death and they may have cooling pads in the bottom of the coffin x" Oh right. I have wondered about this stuff. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .." I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! " I wondered exactly this too. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed?" Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway" Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers " There was 8 but one did look a bit uncomfortable yesterday! Bless him | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! I wondered exactly this too. " This thought crossed my mind too but Princess Anne has been staying with the coffin every time it's been moved so following the convoy and surely you wouldn't do that for an empty coffin. Plus members of the Royal family will be and have been taking it in turns to stand vigil with the coffin. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers " Yes, Diana's was 540 pound so it seems so could be along the same lines. It makes me nervous watching the men carrying them, so god knows what they feel like | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers " They were saying on the news yesterday there is a replica coffin that those who were the bearers had been practising lifting. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers There was 8 but one did look a bit uncomfortable yesterday! Bless him " Lead lined is horrible. Turn away now if you are squeamish.... ...bodies liquefy. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? Lead lined coffin ? The coffin is closed though anyway Mr N just told me the coffin is lead lined. Now I'm thinking how heavy it must be for the bearers Yes, Diana's was 540 pound so it seems so could be along the same lines. It makes me nervous watching the men carrying them, so god knows what they feel like" Me too! I was holding my breath every time they got the coffin in and out of the hearse and when they had to go up steps! | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! I wondered exactly this too. " I often wonder this - in reality i am assuming she is already at her final destination and this is purely the 'ceremonial presence'... I often think what if there was a terrorist attempt on the hearse.. Surely she would already be 'safe'? | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! I wondered exactly this too. I often wonder this - in reality i am assuming she is already at her final destination and this is purely the 'ceremonial presence'... I often think what if there was a terrorist attempt on the hearse.. Surely she would already be 'safe'? " The security must be sky high! There must be loads of undercover security in amongst all those crowds too as the royals interact with them. All the tall buildings in the vicinity must be being watched too. I can’t even imagine the security behind the scenes. | |||
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"I don’t know if I should open a new one.. heck I just have So I went to the Lying in state in Edinburgh… so glad I did! As an aside… loads of people from the north east and Cumbria had the same idea as me as it would be easier to get up there than go down to London… If anyone in the north or Scotland has today off I would still strongly suggest people go… For those going in London… small bag, bottle of water, comfy shoes But it was beautiful… " Glad you made it there. I felt like you were our Fab ambassador, paying respects on behalf of those of us who can't go. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! I wondered exactly this too. I often wonder this - in reality i am assuming she is already at her final destination and this is purely the 'ceremonial presence'... I often think what if there was a terrorist attempt on the hearse.. Surely she would already be 'safe'? The security must be sky high! There must be loads of undercover security in amongst all those crowds too as the royals interact with them. All the tall buildings in the vicinity must be being watched too. I can’t even imagine the security behind the scenes. " They have shooters on the rooftops (the ones you don't see on the news | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? There is no body. The Queen was a hologram all along. Projected by our lizard overlords. .. I did think earlier I wonder if she is actually in there being carted here there and everywhere! I guess nobody would know! I wondered exactly this too. I often wonder this - in reality i am assuming she is already at her final destination and this is purely the 'ceremonial presence'... I often think what if there was a terrorist attempt on the hearse.. Surely she would already be 'safe'? The security must be sky high! There must be loads of undercover security in amongst all those crowds too as the royals interact with them. All the tall buildings in the vicinity must be being watched too. I can’t even imagine the security behind the scenes. They have shooters on the rooftops (the ones you don't see on the news " Yeah they must have. And people checking there are no other shooters on rooftops too. | |||
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"Floral Tribute by Simon Armitage (Poet Laureate) "Evening will come, however determined the late afternoon, Limes and oaks in their last green flush, pearled in September mist. I have conjured a lily to light these hours, a token of thanks, Zones and auras of soft glare framing the brilliant globes. A promise made and kept for life - that was your gift - Because of which, here is a gift in return, glovewort to some, Each shining bonnet guarded by stern lance-like leaves. The country loaded its whole self into your slender hands, Hands that can rest, now, relieved of a century's weight. Evening has come. Rain on the black lochs and dark Munros. Lily of the Valley, a namesake almost, a favourite flower Interlaced with your famous bouquets, the restrained Zeal and forceful grace of its lanterns, each inflorescence A silent bell disguising a singular voice. A blurred new day Breaks uncrowned on remote peaks and public parks, and Everything turns on these luminous petals and deep roots, This lily that thrives between spire and tree, whose brightness Holds and glows beyond the life and border of its bloom."" Thanks for sharing. | |||
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"Erm, how can I ask this delicately. How are they keeping HRH 'fresh' is she already embalmed? She was probably embalmed shortly after her death and they may have cooling pads in the bottom of the coffin x" I'm sure she was embalmed at Balmoral, they will have brought undertakers onsite to do that. | |||
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"I'm not sure she will have been embalmed, there's no need unless a family want to view and protocol seeks to prevent that. A body doesn't deteriorate much in a week. Also I suspect in London there is a royal undertaker (they have their own Coroner and doctors), dying in Scotland will have caused a few issues with that and I'm not sure they would have asked a random local firm to do it." They were probably flew up to Scotland in order to carry out their duties. | |||
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"I'm not sure she will have been embalmed, there's no need unless a family want to view and protocol seeks to prevent that. A body doesn't deteriorate much in a week. Also I suspect in London there is a royal undertaker (they have their own Coroner and doctors), dying in Scotland will have caused a few issues with that and I'm not sure they would have asked a random local firm to do it." I did mean that an undertaker specific for the royal family would have been brought in. | |||
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"I'm not sure she will have been embalmed, there's no need unless a family want to view and protocol seeks to prevent that. A body doesn't deteriorate much in a week. Also I suspect in London there is a royal undertaker (they have their own Coroner and doctors), dying in Scotland will have caused a few issues with that and I'm not sure they would have asked a random local firm to do it. I did mean that an undertaker specific for the royal family would have been brought in. " Won't it have its own chilled storage supply! | |||
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"Hi Fabio, Went myself at 4:00 am. Queues not too bad then, but a long way to walk. Q" I'm so glad you went. Xxx | |||
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"I heard on the radio an hours or so ago, the wait of over 30hrs now, and people hoping to join the queue tomorrow might not get chance to view. " London news showed live footage, it's nowhere near 30 hours at the moment. The thing that slows the pace is the changing of the vigil guard every 20 minutes. Great if you're inside and get to witness that, but a sudden stop for those outside. | |||
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"I heard on the radio an hours or so ago, the wait of over 30hrs now, and people hoping to join the queue tomorrow might not get chance to view. London news showed live footage, it's nowhere near 30 hours at the moment. The thing that slows the pace is the changing of the vigil guard every 20 minutes. Great if you're inside and get to witness that, but a sudden stop for those outside. " I have just watched London local news and the reporter said those at the back of the queue have been warned it could be up to 30 hours. I've literally just heard that reported. The queue is currently down by the national theatre. | |||
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"I heard on the radio an hours or so ago, the wait of over 30hrs now, and people hoping to join the queue tomorrow might not get chance to view. London news showed live footage, it's nowhere near 30 hours at the moment. The thing that slows the pace is the changing of the vigil guard every 20 minutes. Great if you're inside and get to witness that, but a sudden stop for those outside. I have just watched London local news and the reporter said those at the back of the queue have been warned it could be up to 30 hours. I've literally just heard that reported. The queue is currently down by the national theatre. " Other reports say it could reach 30 hours. The queue will be closed if it reaches 10 miles. It's currently around London Bridge/Golden Hind and moving steadily at about a mile an hour. That's about 3 to 4 hours of queue, with the stops every 20 minutes. | |||
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"There's a live queue tracker on YouTube, if you want to experience queuing from your chair. It's currently showing the queue as 2.6 miles. " The government website are also providing a live tracker of where the back of the queue is so you know where to head for… as of 9.30pm it’s 2.4 miles long and the nearest landmark is Southwark bridge on the southern side | |||
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"Oh god I'm dithering again. I can get a ticket on Friday night, retun Sunday night " Perhaps read some of the threads (Twitter and other places) of people who have done it. The queue is now about 5 miles long and takes about 9 hours. Once you reach the point where they issue the LISQ wristband you can leave the queue for food, loos, telly interviews etc. and rejoin where you were. It's likely it will get busier at the weekend as more people travel down to London. I haven't read anything where someone has regretted doing it, but a lot admit it was harder than they expected. Good luck making your decision. | |||
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