FabSwingers.com forum: Cancelled football

By *aturefun63 OP Man
over a year ago

Belper

Should football have been cancelled this weekend.Although not a Royalist did find the tribute to the Queen at the Oval this morning quite moving,could this not have been repeated at football grounds and everyone having a minute’s silence would have been a better mark of respect.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

I think it was a snap decision, rather than something properly thought out.

Plenty of activities still going on around the Country and I’d understand if today was the actual funeral, then I’d expect the games to stop. But there’s nothing wrong with showing some respect at the kick off.

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By *exyPirateMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

Agreed!

I’m a bit bored now….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Selfish answer, but do not see how it's that big a mark of respect.

Are we saying other sports are being disrespectful?

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

I think the premier league were in a tough spot they would get criticism either way and thought they would rather get criticism for not going ahead. Having said that IMO I think they should have gone ahead, with tributes

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think a lot of things are being called to avoid being hounded by the tabloid press.

Who, ironically, are the ones who complain most loudly about such behaviour.

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

A minutes silence before kick-off

Rule Britannia playing over the tannoy

The whole crowd singing along.

It would have been a fantastic and quite emotional way to both mourn and celebrate her life.

My option is the FA totally miss-read the publics feelings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a strange one that football is off, but cricket and rugby etc. continues.

But it’s a monumental point in history, the death of our longest ever reigning monarch, so one weekend without football really won’t hurt in the scheme of things

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"A minutes silence before kick-off

Rule Britannia playing over the tannoy

The whole crowd singing along.

It would have been a fantastic and quite emotional way to both mourn and celebrate her life.

My option is the FA totally miss-read the publics feelings.

Less than a week after the Manchester bombing, the Great North Run went ahead - with poetry, tributes, and spectators out in force to celebrate the city.

It was unbelievably moving - and I agree that something like that would work well in this instance too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tragedy happens everyday but the country still continues on. I don't see how cancelling anything is a sign of respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Selfish answer, but do not see how it's that big a mark of respect.

Are we saying other sports are being disrespectful? "

Did you watch the cup finals with a certain set of fans booing the national anthem?

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"A minutes silence before kick-off

Rule Britannia playing over the tannoy

The whole crowd singing along.

It would have been a fantastic and quite emotional way to both mourn and celebrate her life.

My option is the FA totally miss-read the publics feelings.

Less than a week after the Manchester bombing, the Great North Run went ahead - with poetry, tributes, and spectators out in force to celebrate the city.

It was unbelievably moving - and I agree that something like that would work well in this instance too. "

I ran the London Marathon the week after the Boston bombings and the atmosphere was electric. Plenty of US flags and the running community at one with the victims. So I agree I think the tabloids and their potential outrage, played a part of the decision by the FA.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Selfish answer, but do not see how it's that big a mark of respect.

Are we saying other sports are being disrespectful?

Did you watch the cup finals with a certain set of fans booing the national anthem?"

Sorry I misread your comment. I thought you were talking about the report that fans disrespecting the Queen was one of the reasons behind the postponement of games.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would have thought minutes silence or whatever would have been enough. I don’t think everything needs to stop when it causes so much disruption.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

You can guarantee that some football fans somewhere wouldn't observe a minutes silence though...

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington

"Should football have been cancelled this weekend.Although not a Royalist did find the tribute to the Queen at the Oval this morning quite moving,could this not have been repeated at football grounds and everyone having a minute’s silence would have been a better mark of respect."
those at the top do make some strange decisions last night they cancelled the highlights of the nfl match but put a film on with mel gibson as a womanising slob "what girls want" totally barmy,,

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Premier League were really in a no win situation.

Agree with their decision. But then, the Queen was one for always carried on regardless. As soon as she dies, then we stop everything!

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I suspect that in part this is down to the fact that (for reasons I don't understand but there's presumably a legitimate reason) that one of the requirements in Operation London Bridge was all police leave cancelled. And football has a significant demand on police resources, I'm guessing that a blanket cancellation may have just been easier from the FAs perspective?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prince William is president of the FA, that might have been a factor

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By *aturefun63 OP Man
over a year ago

Belper

I was more disappointed that my son’s junior football game was cancelled as first game of season,thought a minutes silence by the boys would have been good

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By *eptimiusMan
over a year ago

East

No it shouldnt

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Prince William is president of the FA, that might have been a factor "

I suspect too I'm seeing events in other sports being cancelled primarily on links to the Royal family (Royal parks fir example)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Prince William is president of the FA, that might have been a factor "
official answer is it was because she "was a long-standing Patron of The Football Association and has left a lasting and indelible legacy on our national game."

Don't ask me how.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Maybe, maybe not, couldnt there just be a silent minute instead before they started the game, also some say it could be up to 10 days?

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

Other sports are going ahead, the Queen was a huge sports fan, I'm sure as it was shown at the Oval this morning that it would have been a chance for thousands to pay their respects. But I can also understand why the decision was made. Just seems that there has been no consistency.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It's a terrible decision. A minute's silence or cheering and then the new national anthem would have been enough.

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

It has been said for years that when the Queen passed the sporting fixtures etc would be cancelled as a mark of respect. It's not something new.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m more concerned about the boxing being postponed. It was an all female card so this would have been one of their biggest paydays. They also had to cut weight for nothing.

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By *irginLad32Man
over a year ago

Catford

Should be cancelled permanently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be cancelled permanently."

I have to agree!

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

It was to avoid distasteful chanting that has occurred at some matches since QEII passed. That could have escalated in something more serious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be cancelled permanently."

Edgy

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

No it shouldn't have been.

I'm guessing they did so because they figured everyone else would and considered public opinion.

I bet they were gutted when they heard the cricket and rugby were going ahead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be cancelled permanently.

Edgy "

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By *ickdasterdly51Man
over a year ago

Lingfield

Ridiculous decision. My local non league club has had to cancel today's game and now we won't be going to Selhurst tomorrow either. However I can join the throng shopping in Crawley, take in a film or maybe a play and then finish the evening in a nice restaurant.

As said in other posts it would have been a good opportunity to pay tribute to the Queen and I have absolutely no doubt it would have been impeccably observed. Knee jerk reaction from the FA.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"I suspect that in part this is down to the fact that (for reasons I don't understand but there's presumably a legitimate reason) that one of the requirements in Operation London Bridge was all police leave cancelled. And football has a significant demand on police resources, I'm guessing that a blanket cancellation may have just been easier from the FAs perspective?"

This seems like a good point to me.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

While I reckon the policing thing is the real reason, it also struck me that this is probably not a weekend for all the usual undignified squabbling.

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By *ull English with teaMan
over a year ago

London

"I think the premier league were in a tough spot they would get criticism either way and thought they would rather get criticism for not going ahead. Having said that IMO I think they should have gone ahead, with tributes "

Yeah, this is pretty spot on

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

I had exactly this conversation last night. I suspect the police resourcing had a lot to do with the decision.

The FA were in a no win situation though, damned if they do, damned if they don't. Evidence of that in this very thread.

I'm not sure all of the fans would have been capable of a minutes silence in any case.

Winston

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"It was to avoid distasteful chanting that has occurred at some matches since QEII passed. That could have escalated in something more serious. "

I said as much earlier on the thread but it seems to be the awkward truth most football fans not just on here want to ignore.

Will the vast majority of fans observe a minutes silence? 100% yes

Dies history suggest that a significant minority of fans are an absolute disgrace and cannot be trusted to observe a minutes silence? Also 100% yes.

Awaits someone to un-ironically suggest a minutes applause to drown out the idiots...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It was to avoid distasteful chanting that has occurred at some matches since QEII passed. That could have escalated in something more serious.

I said as much earlier on the thread but it seems to be the awkward truth most football fans not just on here want to ignore.

Will the vast majority of fans observe a minutes silence? 100% yes

Dies history suggest that a significant minority of fans are an absolute disgrace and cannot be trusted to observe a minutes silence? Also 100% yes.

Awaits someone to un-ironically suggest a minutes applause to drown out the idiots..."

I think there is very much an undertone with this and other things - this is why we can't have nice things.

Also here before "you anti royalists have no respect" - I would absolutely stand silently)

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By *..WillowCouple
over a year ago

East Lincs

If the football is not cancelled again next weekend there will very likely be a minutes silence at all the games. Which will be just kicking the can down the road regarding the twats that may try to ruin it.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"It's a terrible decision. A minute's silence or cheering and then the new national anthem would have been enough.

Is there gonna be a new National Anthem, or are we just changing Queen to King?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"It was to avoid distasteful chanting that has occurred at some matches since QEII passed. That could have escalated in something more serious. "

Odd that suddenly we're worried about bad taste at football games. Matches never get cancelled because fans sing abhorrent songs about disasters like Hillsborough, for example.

Well, not odd. Obviously there are special rules for the special god chosen people who rule over us.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It was to avoid distasteful chanting that has occurred at some matches since QEII passed. That could have escalated in something more serious.

Odd that suddenly we're worried about bad taste at football games. Matches never get cancelled because fans sing abhorrent songs about disasters like Hillsborough, for example.

Well, not odd. Obviously there are special rules for the special god chosen people who rule over us. "

Quite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah it should be and next one too in respect

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

Never seen the police at our local team or at a kids match. I can see the reason why the professional leagues were postponed but not the amertures.

I think the cricket got it spot on. British Superbikes even practiced at Snetterton yesterday, ready for the weekends racing.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"It's a terrible decision. A minute's silence or cheering and then the new national anthem would have been enough.

Is there gonna be a new National Anthem, or are we just changing Queen to King?

It's not actually a national anthem; it's about one person.

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By *cr2018Couple
over a year ago

cheshire

yes makes absolute sense to not cancel.But quite a lot of people don't like football so its 50/50%

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy."

I think calling people out fir celebrating the death of an old lady is neither virtue signalling nor bullying.

Amd I'm very much indifferent tibher death but respect and dignity isn't that hard to find

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I think it was a snap decision, rather than something properly thought out.

The Americans did and they've been independent since the colonial days ended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s spared me the disappointment of witnessing the usual Stoke City defeat, so it’s been a bonus cancellation for me.

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"If the football is not cancelled again next weekend there will very likely be a minutes silence at all the games. Which will be just kicking the can down the road regarding the twats that may try to ruin it."

Exactly. The minutes silence is much more likely to be widely respected today, in the immediate aftermath of the event, than in 2 or 3 weeks time, when let's be honest, most people will have become bored of the blanket coverage and will just want to get on with their normal lives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No clue why the footballs cancelled but cricket and rugby go ahead?

Class maybe?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy.

I think calling people out fir celebrating the death of an old lady is neither virtue signalling nor bullying.

Amd I'm very much indifferent tibher death but respect and dignity isn't that hard to find"

i fail to see why you have linked playing a game of football to celebrating the death of a monarch

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy."
I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say "

so ban everything for the next 10 days just incase. that's an extremely totalitarian solution

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

so ban everything for the next 10 days just incase. that's an extremely totalitarian solution"
did I mention ban ? Unfortunately this free speech nonsense people think it gives them the go ahead to say anything and not be bothered if it causes offence imagine some stranger publicly stating that they are glad you’re relative has died

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

And all it would take is some moron to playup during the minutes silence live on tv and bingo the Tabloids have got their chance to smear football adinfinitum .sensible descision from the football authority's to prevent reputational damage tho why football at youth and amature level could not go ahead escapes me

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

so ban everything for the next 10 days just incase. that's an extremely totalitarian solution did I mention ban ? Unfortunately this free speech nonsense people think it gives them the go ahead to say anything and not be bothered if it causes offence imagine some stranger publicly stating that they are glad you’re relative has died "

i disagree with the magnatude of your banning of mass sporting events with what a chip shop owner from the other end of the country is claimed to have done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Friend over for kink and chill

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

That's the nature of free speech, you either support it or you don't. You can't claim to support free speech, but only "if it doesn't offend me"

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

i disagree with the magnatude of your banning of mass sporting events with what a chip shop owner from the other end of the country is claimed to have done"
again you mention banning

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

so ban everything for the next 10 days just incase. that's an extremely totalitarian solution"

Well no let's vancrl the sport whose fans repeatedly disgrace themselves.

There's a reason cricket abd rugby are still on and to quote _naswingdress this is why you can't gave nice things

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

That's the nature of free speech, you either support it or you don't. You can't claim to support free speech, but only "if it doesn't offend me""

exactly. those that disagree with the banning of todays games are forced to agree with those who have banned them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agreed!

I’m a bit bored now….

Sorry her majesty died and upset your tv viewing

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"i wouldn't be surprised that the increasing level of royalist virtue signalling and bullying over the next 10 days will cause an increasing backlash from those who are indifferent to the monarchy. I’ve not got a problem with people who have no time for the monarchy but I do have a problem with people being nasty about the queen for example that nasty woman in Scotland the fish shop owner who thought it was a good idea to celebrate out side her shop and the silly tweet by some footballer sometimes it’s best to say nothing if you’ve nothing nice to say

That's the nature of free speech, you either support it or you don't. You can't claim to support free speech, but only "if it doesn't offend me"

exactly. those that disagree with the banning of todays games are forced to agree with those who have banned them."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Banned ? I thought it was postponed and my view on it was to carry on have an applause and get on with it we seen the Manchester United European game go ahead with no problems even the Spanish fans behaved impeccably I’m not a fan of a silence as mentioned above you always get one person who shouts I think an applause is sufficient

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a bit silly to cancel when it gives the public a great chance to show there respect and love to the queen the atmospheres would have been unreal yeah maybe the odd bell end in the crowd but still worth a celebration of her life

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

" I’m not a fan of a silence as mentioned above you always get one person who shouts I think an applause is sufficient "

i agree with this, it both gives a choice to join in or not without any embarassment for any party.

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have two sporting fixtures this weekend. One has cancelled outright, the other will have a minutes silence. I think cancellation is the wrong way to go.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense""

Yeah, whoever said it

Person A can say we should worship the Queen

Person B can say that it's all a load of tosh.

Free speech isn't altered in the slightest.

A private body has postponed its games. That's not speech and it doesn't stop us speaking. We're speaking about it right now.

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By *..WillowCouple
over a year ago

East Lincs

Dont you just love forum threads they always go off at a tangent. It's like You Tube. Start off watching how to make a chicken korma and end up watch ear wax removal

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense""
free speech a term used when people want to say something downright nasty or racist

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"It's a terrible decision. A minute's silence or cheering and then the new national anthem would have been enough.

Is there gonna be a new National Anthem, or are we just changing Queen to King?

It's not actually a national anthem; it's about one person."

So your point is? Of course it's a National Anthem, dreary as it is, maybe you could compose a new one

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense"

Yeah, whoever said it

Person A can say we should worship the Queen

Person B can say that it's all a load of tosh.

Free speech isn't altered in the slightest.

A private body has postponed its games. That's not speech and it doesn't stop us speaking. We're speaking about it right now."

I think we're agreeing with each other? However, I would say that I think one of the reasons that the games have been postponed is that the authorities don't want to give a platform for a very small minority of football fans to exercise their right of free speech, by not toeing the party line on respecting the Queens death.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense" free speech a term used when people want to say something downright nasty or racist "

Or "someone has used their free speech to disagree with me" or "I can't do what I want, whether it's speech or not"

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense"

Yeah, whoever said it

Person A can say we should worship the Queen

Person B can say that it's all a load of tosh.

Free speech isn't altered in the slightest.

A private body has postponed its games. That's not speech and it doesn't stop us speaking. We're speaking about it right now.

Yes, we're absolutely agreeing. (Side note - free speech doesn't include the guarantee of a platform of your choosing. If you come into my house and insult my mother, I'm not depriving you of your free speech if I throw you out)

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over a year ago

Damned if they do, damned if they don't I suspect. They had a quick call to make. In my opinion they made the wrong call. However, let's say if they decided to play on, and the majority of the country found this disrespectful, the shit would have really hit the fan. Turns out that probably wouldn't have been the case, but having a little bit of flack for not playing, to potentially having the whole country baying for blood for playing, reckon the FA just hedged their bets. Who can blame them. When the righteous moral brigade get on their high horse, there's no stopping them until the next innocuous event happens they feel deserves their righteous virtues.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense" free speech a term used when people want to say something downright nasty or racist "

i'm not sure why you brought up the subject of free speech in the first place to be honest.

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Wtf does this have to do with free speech?

FFS

I'm not sure, I was just responding to someone who stated "this free speech nonsense"

Yeah, whoever said it

Person A can say we should worship the Queen

Person B can say that it's all a load of tosh.

Free speech isn't altered in the slightest.

A private body has postponed its games. That's not speech and it doesn't stop us speaking. We're speaking about it right now.

100% agree

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By *heArrowsCouple
over a year ago

The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be so nice if football never came back.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top"

That's true. It's no doubt multifaceted.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top"

Well if the cap fits .........

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By *heArrowsCouple
over a year ago

And free speech is the right to speak your mind, not to be insulting, disrespectful or the right to say what you want regardless of truth or law.

Free speech gives me the right to say I don't like potatoes not that potatoes are all shite bags and pedophiles and deserve to die.

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By *..WillowCouple
over a year ago

East Lincs

The government left it up to all organising bodies (sporting and non sporting events).

Seemed like they didn't want the flack.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

seems ironic that that 14 moths ago that football was being used as a vehicle by the state to galvanise the country ... not sure why they have sown division by demanding the opposite now.

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

It's true that it's never black and white. I will say though, it wouldn't be the actions of a very small minority of fans that would be bringing shame to the UK, it would be the way the sensationalist press/media latched onto it, and blew it up out of all proportion, that would be shameful.

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By *heArrowsCouple
over a year ago

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits ........."

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

If some football fans chanted something disrespectful at a game they would police themselves. The majority would let their feeling be known and then you get a true reflection of how the people feel about their queen.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And all it would take is some moron to playup during the minutes silence live on tv and bingo the Tabloids have got their chance to smear football adinfinitum .sensible descision from the football authority's to prevent reputational damage tho why football at youth and amature level could not go ahead escapes me "

Football is more than capable of smearing itself with all the cheating, falling over pretending to be hurt, no respect for referees and line staff etc etc

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Sadly football fans have history for chanting during the silence Munich Hillsborough etc etc I much prefer an applause it drowns out the numptys

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"And free speech is the right to speak your mind, not to be insulting, disrespectful or the right to say what you want regardless of truth or law.

Free speech gives me the right to say I don't like potatoes not that potatoes are all shite bags and pedophiles and deserve to die. "

I think free speech includes the right to say insulting or disrespectful things (there are forbidden things but they're narrower than that). It also includes the right for people to react to opinions they find distasteful. That's discourse (civil or otherwise). I think it is within free speech to say "paedophiles are pieces of shit" but not "Mr X is a paedophile and a piece of shit" (the latter being defamatory).

But there's no right to say anything in a place of your choosing, and the football being on is independent of the right to speak.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win. "

Indeed

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top"

Haven’t read the rest of the thread but Is it not to do with security/policing? Aren’t there more football matches than cricket and rugby matches and usually more police at the football games? Maybe the police are needed elsewhere this weekend. Just a thought

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

It’s worth noting the premier league is watched globally by millions of fans outside of the UK, that is not the case for cricket or Rugby, I think this has been a major factor in the decision making

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win. "

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Next weekend, especially in London, that may be a valid point. This weekend, I don't think it holds water as an argument.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

... Is it not to do with security/policing? Aren’t there more football matches than cricket and rugby matches and usually more police at the football games? Maybe the police are needed elsewhere this weekend. Just a thought "

why this weekend in particular?

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?"

Maybe I’m being naive but aren’t footballs fans around the world kinda know as being complete cunts?

Rugby and cricket are not only smaller turn outs, I don’t think the fans are as much hooligans like footballs Is

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By *ooBulMan
over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

T.B.H, I was a bit miffed there was no footie today! After all, we all eventually will die;. So why don't we carry on as normal? I see the cricket was being played? Did the Queen like cricket then? I thought she was more like a horse racing type of gal?

Normally on a Sat I sit with a big mug of tea (a.m), then red button the football to see who's playin' Nottingham Forest today either home or away followed by a sharp in take of breath when it's a decent team. You know, kinda like when the mechanic tells yer your big ends gone. That sort of thing. Then I watch football focus & laugh at all the bollox the pundits talk. that gets me fired up for my local Nottingham radio where I ,listen to their excellent coverage. Later on it's MOTD. It's either with an excite "yipeee" or a down hearted "yayyyyyyy!"

Either way I was a bit disappointed at the FA's decision. Then I read the above & thought... Yep, there will be some moron/(s) not respecting the quiet silence so, I got to then think well done FA!

It also gives Steve Cooper more time to prepare for the next game. Will it be dirty Leeds or will they go to next weeks fixtures? Lets wait & see...

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By *xciter7169Man
over a year ago

The Midlands

Same with the horse racing,the Queen loved her racing,i thought it should of gone ahead,she would of got a fantastic reception from the crowd,life goes on!

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

why this weekend in particular?

Aren’t all the royal residences packed with people? Haven’t seen much but from what I’ve seen it seems like it. Wont that need policing?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?

Maybe I’m being naive but aren’t footballs fans around the world kinda know as being complete cunts?

Rugby and cricket are not only smaller turn outs, I don’t think the fans are as much hooligans like footballs Is "
sadly football fans do have a reputation having said that fair play to the fans who went to the games on Thursday night they behaved impeccably

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

why this weekend in particular?

Aren’t all the royal residences packed with people? Haven’t seen much but from what I’ve seen it seems like it. Wont that need policing?"

stewarding maybe, but policing?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

why this weekend in particular?

Aren’t all the royal residences packed with people? Haven’t seen much but from what I’ve seen it seems like it. Wont that need policing?

stewarding maybe, but policing?"

Ok. Like I said was just a thought

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"fair play to the fans who went to the games on Thursday night they behaved impeccably "

that undermines the reasons for the ban on todays games

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"fair play to the fans who went to the games on Thursday night they behaved impeccably

that undermines the reasons for the ban on todays games"
ban ?? Postponed surely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can thank the Scousers as the FA didn’t want the national anthem and the minute silence booed…

Cheeky scousers… you gotta love them

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By *heArrowsCouple
over a year ago

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?"

Well no one actually goes to cricket. And if they do they are usually older, middle class conservative types or children.

Football is tribal. You are a (insert club here) fan first and foremost. A football fan second.

Rugby is different. Rugby is the tribe.

And Rugby isn't about chants and songs. It's about anthems.

That the difference between the sports.

But

You and the government and the people who run football (not exactly the type of people who grew up in an estate in Birmingham) ASSUME that football fans can't be trusted. That's why it's classist. Rather than potentially disrespect the memory of one person, it's better to disrespect the people who go to football matches.

Would you want to be of a pro royal disposition at a Glasgow celtic match? I can't imagine how offensive they would be. But they will be offensive regardless, this weekend or next. And if people in Liverpool, Manchester or Birmingham who feel disenfranchised by the counrty they are part of, they will make their feelings known. This week or next.

The only difference is that this week the world would know that the Queen was not universally loved and next week only the bbc and sky news would know.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?

Well no one actually goes to cricket. And if they do they are usually older, middle class conservative types or children.

Football is tribal. You are a (insert club here) fan first and foremost. A football fan second.

Rugby is different. Rugby is the tribe.

And Rugby isn't about chants and songs. It's about anthems.

That the difference between the sports.

But

The only difference is that this week the world would know that the Queen was not universally loved and next week only the bbc and sky news would know. "

Yeah I’m sure the world is waiting on baited breath to hear how much a cunt the queen was from a bunch of boozed up football hooligans

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"The cancellation of football seems a little bit classist to me.

Cricket can continue, rugger can go on, but football should stop.

Your government are the ones who told (or "consulted") with the football governing bodies and wanted no football this weekend.

It would not take many fans chanting something during a minutes silence to make the news and bring shame to the UK.

To me it seems like the working classes can't be trusted, at least by the people at the top

Well if the cap fits .........

Ah but this is what feeds the disenfranchisement of people from their society.

Instead you get nothing and no idea and the vocal minority win.

I agree, but how is that Rugby and Cricket fans can be counted on to behave responsibly, but it seems not Football fans (even by their own official Body)?

Well no one actually goes to cricket. And if they do they are usually older, middle class conservative types or children.

Football is tribal. You are a (insert club here) fan first and foremost. A football fan second.

Rugby is different. Rugby is the tribe.

And Rugby isn't about chants and songs. It's about anthems.

That the difference between the sports.

But

The only difference is that this week the world would know that the Queen was not universally loved and next week only the bbc and sky news would know. "

i disagree. both cricket and rugby have displayed as much d*unken loutish behaviour from those in attendance for a number of years, not to mention mass brawls at horse racing events.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

With the funeral now set for next Monday I am guessing next weekend’s fixtures will likely be cancelled as all spare police are going to sent to London for safety reasons

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By *ociable-NottmCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Hopefully the cancellation’s work in our favour (Forest)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it should've been cancelled as I don't think it really shows respect in anyway and the people who work through the week who love watching football are essentially put into forced mourning. I also feel sorry for those you have paid for travel and accommodation only to have the match cancelled.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"I don't think it should've been cancelled as I don't think it really shows respect in anyway and the people who work through the week who love watching football are essentially put into forced mourning. I also feel sorry for those you have paid for travel and accommodation only to have the match cancelled."

not to mention those who rely on the wages they earn from jobs related to match day events.

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By *ooBulMan
over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

With the funeral now set for next Monday I am guessing next weekend’s fixtures will likely be cancelled as all spare police are going to sent to London for safety reasons "

Call the army in then? Just in caser of a any civil unrest or crimes?

Yikes, what a horrible thought! I'll be crossing my fingers & praying then?

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

not to mention those who rely on the wages they earn from jobs related to match day events."

Another important point - the hospitality industry too stand to make significant losses off the back of cancelled games, at a time when they are struggling to recover from lockdowns, and dealing with the cost of living crisis

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"Call the army in then? Just in caser of a any civil unrest or crimes?

Yikes, what a horrible thought! I'll be crossing my fingers & praying then?

martial law wouldn't be a very good look for the country right now maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went down to Buckingham palace last night.

We were speaking to quite a few of the police officers down there and one of them told us 1 of the reasons the football has been cancelled is because Particularly in London they are having to deal with an extreme number of people visiting the city particularly Buckingham palace. A lot of the reasons is because of policing and crowd control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a monumental momentum in history and something most of us alive have never seen the likes of.

Our head of state has died and as happens in most countries there is an official period of mouring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"We went down to Buckingham palace last night.

I’ve heard this too, I’m sure this was a big factor

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled."

British weightlifting cancelled this weekend. It was the British open. Countless athletes will have trained for this, then paid for hotels and travel, and they cancelled it. Zero respect

Don’t even get me started on the bank holiday coming up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled."

Football was able to go ahead this weekend. Nobody has told them they cannot have games it was up to the individual Associations and clubs to make the decision. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe the players didn't want to play?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

without anyone being in attendance of the meeting between the DCMS and the FA, the responsibility for todays ban is pure conjecture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c"

Maybe rather than speculating just except this is a once in a lifetime event and the Queen was our head of state. We are one of the few countries that when our head of state dies we don't automatically close everything down.

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over a year ago

"without anyone being in attendance of the meeting between the DCMS and the FA, the responsibility for todays ban is pure conjecture."

It isn't a ban there is no ban on football.

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over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

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over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football. "

That's not true as there were children's football matches happening at the local pitch today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football. "

That was the FA's decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened."

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

all matches today have been banned. if any club defied the ban then they would be punished by the governing body. that is most certainly a ban.

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By *IG G77Man
over a year ago

GATLEY

No it shouldn't have been cancelled, imagine the tributes football grounds could have offered in the singing of the national anthem

Plus the funeral isnt for ten days so should have played on , the season is already short because of the world cup in November now theres going to be a backlog of fixtures again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

My point really is that I feel there are better ways we can show respect.

My initial comment is too express why I feel shutting down is the wrong choice.

Several small businesses took a big hit in the current climate.

That to me is not expressing any form of respect.

There have to be better ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

My point really is that I feel there are better ways we can show respect.

My initial comment is too express why I feel shutting down is the wrong choice.

Several small businesses took a big hit in the current climate.

That to me is not expressing any form of respect.

There have to be better ways. "

What better ways? I haven't heard any local businesses close to football stadiums complaining have you?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football.

That's not true as there were children's football matches happening at the local pitch today. "

It is true. It’s all football including non league and grassroots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolute craziness that anything was cancelled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football.

That's not true as there were children's football matches happening at the local pitch today.

It is true. It’s all football including non league and grassroots "

Well I am telling you there was a match local to us today.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Some games are back on commencing September 13th europa cup games on Thursday so much for the ban then

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Jesus Christ!!

A little respect is all that's happening and people are getting their knickers in a twist.

Maybe just maybe if people started showing a bit of pride and respect towards our country and the monarchy instead of distain and contempt we maybe able to start treating each other a bit better and move away from this selfish me me me society that we have become.

She lived her entire live in service for the country and representing the people.

She never asked for it but did so extremely well.

So the suspension of some football matches is hardly a lot to ask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not. "

A quick Google search will tell you otherwise. If there was a kids football game going on, they're defying the FA, so could be severely punished (relatively speaking) Or it wasn't an official cup or league game. You don't what you're talking about. Sorry, not sorry. I see you Lorna, think a lot of us do on the forums. Where's your next argument. Facebook or Twitter?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

My point really is that I feel there are better ways we can show respect.

My initial comment is too express why I feel shutting down is the wrong choice.

Several small businesses took a big hit in the current climate.

That to me is not expressing any form of respect.

There have to be better ways.

What better ways? I haven't heard any local businesses close to football stadiums complaining have you? "

What has that got to do with my initial comment?

Either discuss that or stay away, don't keep putting a twist on it

I'll repeat, I'm speaking of their small, local businesses I've mentioned as an example, that I know have taken a hit.

In this current climate, that's a big hit.

We could have celebrated her life during that event

But I already suggested that and that was already ignored to switch the conversation to other things

You're not going to change my mind on this, you're only reinforcing my viewpoint with you attempt to sway conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

My point really is that I feel there are better ways we can show respect.

My initial comment is too express why I feel shutting down is the wrong choice.

Several small businesses took a big hit in the current climate.

That to me is not expressing any form of respect.

There have to be better ways.

What better ways? I haven't heard any local businesses close to football stadiums complaining have you?

What has that got to do with my initial comment?

Either discuss that or stay away, don't keep putting a twist on it

I'll repeat, I'm speaking of their small, local businesses I've mentioned as an example, that I know have taken a hit.

In this current climate, that's a big hit.

We could have celebrated her life during that event

But I already suggested that and that was already ignored to switch the conversation to other things

You're not going to change my mind on this, you're only reinforcing my viewpoint with you attempt to sway conversation. "

I haven't put a twist on anything I am asking you a question you can choose whether to answer it or not.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

Don't think that's true. All football has been suspended by the FA, including grass roots kids football.

That's not true as there were children's football matches happening at the local pitch today.

It is true. It’s all football including non league and grassroots

Well I am telling you there was a match local to us today. "

Ok lol. Not everyone sticks to the rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jesus Christ!!

A little respect is all that's happening and people are getting their knickers in a twist.

She lived her entire live in service for the country and representing the people.

She never asked for it but did so extremely well.

So the suspension of some football matches is hardly a lot to ask.

Do the Royal family cancel engagements if one of my family dies?

Or does 'respect' only go one way?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Jesus Christ!!

A little respect is all that's happening and people are getting their knickers in a twist.

She lived her entire live in service for the country and representing the people.

She never asked for it but did so extremely well.

So the suspension of some football matches is hardly a lot to ask.

"
unfortunately that’s way of some it’s all me me me selfish pricks most of them I seen someone on here moaning that their tv schedule had been ruined

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

I'm allowed to disagree with you without you making things personal.

I'm sure lots of people do see me because I'm literally here commenting I'm not sure what your point is but let's keep it pleasant please.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I heard on the radio this morning that all horse racing and ( something else ) were cancelled.

I laughed out loud..... it's like ENFORCED mourning.......

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

I'm allowed to disagree with you without you making things personal.

I'm sure lots of people do see me because I'm literally here commenting I'm not sure what your point is but let's keep it pleasant please. "

But were you right or is he? Is there a ban or not?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

i think despite the ban on games today it's up to the individual to express their feeling for the queens death and not for monarchists to demand respect to be paid in the way that they believe is fitting.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

To be fair they’re not using the words ban. They’re using the words postpone and cancel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the Pools Panel sitting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

To be fair they’re not using the words ban. They’re using the words postpone and cancel. "

Thank you, That's exactly what I meant.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"i think despite the ban on games today it's up to the individual to express their feeling for the queens death and not for monarchists to demand respect to be paid in the way that they believe is fitting."

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Jesus Christ!!

A little respect is all that's happening and people are getting their knickers in a twist.

She lived her entire live in service for the country and representing the people.

She never asked for it but did so extremely well.

So the suspension of some football matches is hardly a lot to ask.

Do the Royal family cancel engagements if one of my family dies?

Or does 'respect' only go one way?"

I'm pretty sure that if the queen had known a member of your family for over 70years yes.

But no arguing with some people.

So I assume you will be forfeiting your bank holiday and carrying on as normal on Monday the 19th?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all. "

This is true also. The FA made this decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jesus Christ!!

A little respect is all that's happening and people are getting their knickers in a twist.

She lived her entire live in service for the country and representing the people.

She never asked for it but did so extremely well.

So the suspension of some football matches is hardly a lot to ask.

I get that, but it's easy to see why having multiple days dedicated to the life one person that can affect the day to day lives of the many can rub them the wrong way. It's sad that she passed away but we don't need an enforced mourning period for days and days.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I can’t believe they banned football.

Plus apparently we can’t even call it football anymore. It’s soccer now that the queen has passed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all.

This is true also. The FA made this decision. "

Are we agreeing!

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By *heArrowsCouple
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

I'm allowed to disagree with you without you making things personal.

I'm sure lots of people do see me because I'm literally here commenting I'm not sure what your point is but let's keep it pleasant please. "
Some people are not interested in talking but in getting responses from others.

It's an insecurity in them. Makes them feel powerful. Manly.

I'm not telling you to ignore them lorna. Follow your conscience. But I ersonally wouldn't waste any time on them.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all. "

it's clear that you haven't read what i wrote there. i said monarchists not monarch or monarchy for that matter.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all.

This is true also. The FA made this decision.

Are we agreeing!

it won’t last!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't an official match but myself and a few other Dad's took our young children all under 12 to the park today for a match. We won 37-0 btw.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I agree..

And equally some need to accept that however much they dislike the monarchy and the system we have which has its faults, when the Nation has lost its longest serving Queen there will be changes albeit temporary to the norm..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all.

it's clear that you haven't read what i wrote there. i said monarchists not monarch or monarchy for that matter."

Not monarchists either is it though? because as far as I can see nobody has been demanding anything it is just what the fa has decided to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure that if the queen had known a member of your family for over 70years yes.

But no arguing with some people.

So I assume you will be forfeiting your bank holiday and carrying on as normal on Monday the 19th?"

I'm very sure they wouldn't. I met her once as it happens. She won't have remembered my name let alone rearrange her schedule for me.

As for 'bank holiday'. I'm self employed. No such thing as a bank holiday!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Wasn't an official match but myself and a few other Dad's took our young children all under 12 to the park today for a match. We won 37-0 btw."

Dad's v kids and the kids won?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't an official match but myself and a few other Dad's took our young children all under 12 to the park today for a match. We won 37-0 btw."

Maybe that's what I saw today then something like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure that if the queen had known a member of your family for over 70years yes.

But no arguing with some people.

So I assume you will be forfeiting your bank holiday and carrying on as normal on Monday the 19th?

I'm very sure they wouldn't. I met her once as it happens. She won't have remembered my name let alone rearrange her schedule for me.

As for 'bank holiday'. I'm self employed. No such thing as a bank holiday!"

My nephew is very pleased there is a bank holiday as he will get time and a 1/2.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"demanding blind acceptance appears as bullying people into not debating what's happened.

Who is bullying anyone in to anything. You are wrong to say there is a ban on football because there is not.

I'm allowed to disagree with you without you making things personal.

I'm sure lots of people do see me because I'm literally here commenting I'm not sure what your point is but let's keep it pleasant please. "

You're disagreeing with facts though, not opinion. All football, including all level grassroots football has been suspended this weekend. That's a fact, but you're saying otherwise. You've literally said it hasn't because you saw kids playing football. I've no idea what you saw, but it wouldn't have been an FA regulated game, which all leagues in the country, regardless of standard, gender or age have to adhere to. You've literally argued, not just with me, but others too, about football not being 'banned.' I wouldn't use the word banned, but suspended. That is fact, but for some reason, even though you have the answer to this literally in your hand, you still feel the need to argue the opposite of what is actually true. Not sure why, but I notice you arguing (debating) a lot on here. In this case. You're wrong on this. That's factual.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

What has the monarch demanded?

It has been made very clear nothing is expected to stop or close it is up to individual associations, Businesses and organisations to decide what to do.

Nothing to do with what the monarchy has demanded at all.

it's clear that you haven't read what i wrote there. i said monarchists not monarch or monarchy for that matter.

Not monarchists either is it though? because as far as I can see nobody has been demanding anything it is just what the fa has decided to do. "

you need to re-read the thread in it's entirety then.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I heard on the radio this morning that all horse racing and ( something else ) were cancelled.

I laughed out loud..... it's like ENFORCED mourning.......

I mean, to be fair, we can do, like, literally anything else. I could dance a jig all through the Queen's funeral if I wanted to. (Yes, I probably will work during the bank holiday. No, I don't actually plan to dance a jig. I'm just going to get on with my life)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Anyway it'll be back next week and this is where I disagree with the great man Shankly, it is only a game..

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

The bank holiday is a nice addition

How nice of the royals to force every business in the land to have to fork out a little extra for free

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A friend of mine was to be at an event where around twenty small, local companies get together for a world food like event.

All had brought in the extra ingredients etc, the extra costs also.

Then bam, cancelled as a sign of respect.

I don't understand how that is a sign of respect.

They could have added to the event to celebrate her life and the new king instead.

To answer the question though.

No, the football shouldn't have been cancelled.

I'm aware of that.

I doubt very much that they held a vote with the players on whether or not they wanted to play.

Or the rest of the staff, many of which relying on the wage.

Assuming here that no work may equal no pay.c

My point really is that I feel there are better ways we can show respect.

My initial comment is too express why I feel shutting down is the wrong choice.

Several small businesses took a big hit in the current climate.

That to me is not expressing any form of respect.

There have to be better ways.

What better ways? I haven't heard any local businesses close to football stadiums complaining have you?

What has that got to do with my initial comment?

Either discuss that or stay away, don't keep putting a twist on it

I'll repeat, I'm speaking of their small, local businesses I've mentioned as an example, that I know have taken a hit.

In this current climate, that's a big hit.

We could have celebrated her life during that event

But I already suggested that and that was already ignored to switch the conversation to other things

You're not going to change my mind on this, you're only reinforcing my viewpoint with you attempt to sway conversation.

I haven't put a twist on anything I am asking you a question you can choose whether to answer it or not. "

You're attempting to change the course of the conversation by ignoring what I have said and then asking questions that have no relation to my comments here.

I mean, asking if I've considered the footballers might not want to play, have you considered that might want to do?

Then asking if I've heard any traders close to football stadiums complain? Because you haven't heard them complain, doesn't mean that haven't.

What a bizarre comment to make.

Why bother quoting if you're going to avoid what you have quoted? Oh yeah, to change direction. (shrugs)

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London

Not a football fan but as they've also decided that everything on telly has to be shelved what the fuck are we supposed to do if we don't give a shit? Thank fuck it didn't happen when we only had 4 channels

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING

I can't see why it should be a snap decision, after all they've had quite a few years to prepare.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

i think the virtue signalling and bullying by the monarchists will have opposite effect in the long run to what they hope to achieve and the ban on todays football games is a microcosm of this.

(closed, thread got too big)

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