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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This is a genuine post because people are genuinely upset at the loss of the Queen.

I’m curious as to people’s views. My social media pals and the people of fab all have differing opinions.

Please keep it classy, please don’t attack anyone in the family specifically, just let me know why they’re important or not important to you. Why do you not like them so passionately? Why do you like them so passionately?

Etc etc.

if you’re too sad about the loss of the Queen, the thread may trigger you and might be best to steer clear.

and

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Little.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can’t really relate to the royal family as they just live in a totally different universe, relatively, to me.

And when I see memebers of them on the street dressed in jeans and a cap selling the big issue for a few hours I just find that all a bit cringe !!!!!!

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By *ORBCouple
over a year ago

Dundalk

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By *hil most chillMan
over a year ago

South East & Europe

They are of no importance to me.

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By *ORBCouple
over a year ago

Dundalk

They mean absolutely nothing in my life.

I'm Irish and although I'm born and bred in Northern Ireland I can recognise the Queen's passing as a sad event for her family and the loss of a mother, grandmother and great grandmother but I don't recognise her or any other member of the Royal Family beyond that.

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By *JandCMCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

They mean nothing to me in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

What I do find slightly annoying though is that everything has now essentially stopped and it's interfering with my everyday life. I cope with personal tragedies by just getting on with it to take my mind off it so to be forced to mourn someone I didn't know for the next week kinda rubs me the wrong way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're important to me for it is a reflection of how I see my country as it is and how it should be.

The Queen served our country for 70 years and for many she has become an avatar of the nation through shifting times. She was an inseparable part of a national identity for a lot of folks and they didn't want to consider a world without her ,that world has now arrived.

God Save The King

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not important to me at all, I’m a republican!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Royal Family and the Queen are/were no more important to me than a stranger I would pass in the street. The events of their lives had no impact on mine.

I've never watched a speech from th Queen or any weddings, jubilees etc on the tele. The displays of wealth and privilege (though not asked for by the Queen) always made me feel uncomfortable.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

I love them! Especially loved the Queen! Just been there my whole life most people's I shd think! As to why ? Not sure really she was devoted to this country though and served us well ! Am warming to Charles watching him with the people today x

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Constitutional head of our nation - a crucial role that balances power in our democracy. The military, police and judiciary swear allegiance to the nation through the monarch. This makes it more difficult for a politician to grab power through a coup.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My feelings are linked invariably to history and anti colonial/ freedom movements that were suppressed throughout history by royals. But I think that the family is also a bit weird because by virtue of birth it feels odd to grant such power and/ privilege.

I can’t pretend I don’t understand people that don’t know them personally still loving them- I love Angela Davis and I’ve never met her.

But I am finding reading alternate or slightly different perspectives quite interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

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Surely that makes you a royalist? It’s not a criticism btw just ah observation.

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By *it-chrissyTV/TS
over a year ago

sw. london

History.

so much of our long history is tracked via the monarchs. wether they were the big influence or low key to events; it's a way of rooting our history and progress as a nation.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

On a day to day basis and in a personal level they mean nothing but in terms of national pride and image I think they are important in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An irrelevant institution to modern society.

Proof we don't live in a meritocracy.

A big family living off benefits.

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By *JstarsoloWoman
over a year ago

Wombwell, Barnsley

They don't mean anything to me personally. They are part of our British monarchy/history is all. They have no real relevance or significance in my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing to me other than people I occasionally hear/read stories about.

I don’t know them, they don’t know me. I’m simply aware of their existence.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

It’s the same way I felt when Diana died, people I know now acting as if the queen was a significant part of their lives. I find it all quite bizarre this collective upmanship of each other’s shock over her death.

I don’t comment on these posts just let them get on with it.

I don’t hate or love the Monarchy (apart from Andrew ) they’re just there a symbol of our past.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I want to talk about the royal family as much as politics.

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By *exycarmarthenMan
over a year ago

Swansea

Swore an oath to them, I like to keep my promises lol

She was a lovely lady. I met most of the royals through my previous duties and they were unfailingly polite to all regardless of station or rank.

I would much rather a Queen or a King dedicated to their duties for life than yet another slimy politician willing to sell his or her Nan for a vote or a highly paid position on board once their term is over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want to talk about the royal family as much as politics. "

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

As containing Individuals that have contributed to society through charitable work and other social projects.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

I honestly don't know

When I've asked I've always said I'm not a huge fan although I do think they bring a tremendous amount of tourism £££ into the country

& I always had a fondness for the queen mother & in more recent years the queen, the James Bond skit at the Olympics & more recently the afternoon tea with Paddington definitely made me smile

But that said the only bits of the jubilee I watched was Paddington & the Diversity & Duran Duran shows at the concert

Was I upset yesterday, no she's an old lady and she's had a good innings but I do kinda feel that the world has lost a grandma & for that a bit of me is sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm indifferent to the Royal family.

I just don't get it at all, no understanding of their importance, or more importantly why of their importance.

I've no idea what that bring to or take from the country.

I'd say it's always sad when a person dies, because it is, but you know what, the only thing guaranteed in life is an end. We will all get there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it all quite bizarre this collective upmanship of each other’s shock over her death."

I feel this. These past few hours have been a bemusement to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be hobest i went to my mate of w8 years funeral yeaterday, thats still hitting me i didnt know this woman

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Too me I'd say pretty important the opportunity to make huge improvements and rebuild our planet which has been neglected far too long that the future generation are able to continue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

Surely that makes you a royalist? It’s not a criticism btw just ah observation. "

I may have not fully understood the definition. I took it to mean to care significantly about the part they play and what they do day to day. If it just means agreeing with the overall purpose of a monarchy then yeah, I guess I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have never bought in to the hierarchical idea of Gods and Prophets, Kings and Queens, Lords, Celebrities, etc.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

Seems a lot of people not interested in our royal family. They have done so much for this country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Queen has been consistent through my whole life and I feel incredibly sad and a sense of loss from her passing and sad knowing someone has lost a Mum, Grandma and Great Grandma...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no strong feelings for then but I don't get the hate towards them.

I do think it would be a sad day if we had no Royal Family, though I think William should be king.

Well actually I'd vote Harry as king anyday but I'm not to sure that'll happen.

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

They are of no importance beyond historical context (re colonialism)

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By *exi_LexiTV/TS
over a year ago

caerphilly

One big corrupt family, I won't lose no sleep over it

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I'm anti royal, as an institute it is outdated and pointless. But I wouldn't wish any of them harm, and I'm indifferent to most of them. I wouldn't want their lives, particularly those high up the pecking order, that doesn't look full

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I have no strong feelings for then but I don't get the hate towards them.

I do think it would be a sad day if we had no Royal Family, though I think William should be king.

Well actually I'd vote Harry as king anyday but I'm not to sure that'll happen.

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What is it that would make William a good king ?

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By *revaunanceCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

What I find interesting is the number of countries in the world that have lost their monarchy but revere our own.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

In general... Not a huge deal. The queen was different.huge admiration and respect and pride for the queen. The rest of them... Don't warm to them so much.

I get some don't like them. I suspect most people don't have the foggiest about what they really do, past the insta etc.. Of all the problems in our country... Not sure the royal family is one of them.

Our country has been sliding down the slope for a few decades now... The Queen was respected.. Even by Putin. That respect was earned. My concern now is further damage to international relations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

Surely that makes you a royalist? It’s not a criticism btw just ah observation.

I may have not fully understood the definition. I took it to mean to care significantly about the part they play and what they do day to day. If it just means agreeing with the overall purpose of a monarchy then yeah, I guess I am "

Yep a royalist is a person who supports the principle of monarchy so that would make you a royalist lol

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Nothing. Everyone should be equal.

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"What I find interesting is the number of countries in the world that have lost their monarchy but revere our own."

A lot is it is… the spectacle.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

Surely that makes you a royalist? It’s not a criticism btw just ah observation.

I may have not fully understood the definition. I took it to mean to care significantly about the part they play and what they do day to day. If it just means agreeing with the overall purpose of a monarchy then yeah, I guess I am

Yep a royalist is a person who supports the principle of monarchy so that would make you a royalist lol"

Cavalier v roundheads... History repeats itself

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Whilst some members of the family are dubious at best I think we as a nation should be proud of our monarchy ...

The Queen no longer being here is an awful thing and the royal family is weakened with her passing ..

I watched Charles address to the nation and thought it was spot on and poignant ( and I'm not a Charles fan ) ..

I wish him a happy reign however

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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I'm no royalist but I can see the attraction they bring to the country for a lot of people, and I do like the history side of it, Now the Queen has passed they should be more like other European royalty and be completely in the background, King and Queen yes, the rest of them can fend for themselves,

When you have people campaigning for 50k-100k to send their dying children to America for operations people in poverty etc, having people born into Royalty is less relevant in modern society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst some members of the family are dubious at best I think we as a nation should be proud of our monarchy ...

The Queen no longer being here is an awful thing and the royal family is weakened with her passing ..

I watched Charles address to the nation and thought it was spot on and poignant ( and I'm not a Charles fan ) ..

I wish him a happy reign however "

Well said

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By *tranger swings 69Couple
over a year ago

cheshire

They mean less than zero to me

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I'm very glad that I'm out of the country right now.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I respected the Queen, as she's invested a lot of work to her role. Charles has helped the global heating and wildlife fight.

Otherwise, I don't know them as people. It would be healthier for all people here to be born equal. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt. "

This

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m from the commonwealth. For varied reasons the Queen along with Charles and Diana were held with deep respect following their visits.

I’m not sure they have every really directly impacted on my life here negatively or positively.

I’m happy for a monarchy to remain not that my day means anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously I do not know them but they're not and never will be part of my life. I wasn't brought up in a royalist family. However, I do recognise that it's a sad time for her family. They are human too after all x

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By *heMightySpud69Man
over a year ago

Milton keynes

They don't mean a lot to me. I don't really get why people are so into them, they don't appear to actually do a great deal

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Literally nothing, sick of hearing about them, they represent the UKs dark past. But most people not ready to talk about yet

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Literally nothing, sick of hearing about them, they represent the UKs dark past. But most people not ready to talk about yet"

Lmao The Lounge isn’t ready for that conversation. It’s come up before.

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

As a person, the Queen seemed a decent sort who did a good job of promoting a rather narrow image of Britishness.

As an institution, the Royal Family is an anachronism and we are shortly to be force-fed the ludicrous spectacle of a state funeral costing millions of pounds when working people can't heat their homes and are using foodbanks.

Unfortunately, there is a streak of subservience in the British (or should that be English?) people and the current outbreak of mourning is a manifestation of that.

At the end of the day, this is a wealthy country that has the resources to create a showpiece society. Instead, we put up with a broken society that puts on showpiece occasions.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

£84 million a year tax payer funded sovereign grant

Andy had 12 mill of last year to avoid court and prison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The royal family means nothing to me. I wish them no ill will but the monarchy is an outdated institution and it is time for them to go.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"Literally nothing, sick of hearing about them, they represent the UKs dark past. But most people not ready to talk about yet

Lmao The Lounge isn’t ready for that conversation. It’s come up before. "

Lol yeah I’m sure it has up on here, what hasn’t haha I meant the general public

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By *lex.and.SexCouple
over a year ago

Bedale

The Queen herself represented a huge historical link to our past and a constant symbol of what it is to be British.

The rest of them - Couldn't give a shit. Sorry to say.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Frankly, I regard them as simply another wealthy dysfunctional celebrity family, who have a very welltuned public relations department that ensures they are omnipresent in the media in the UK and probably worldwide too.

They have insinuated their way into every interstecy of public life in GB, to the point that many people think that they know them and that their affection is reciprocated.

They are manipulators on an astonishingly clever and sophisticated level, and wield phenomenal power and influence, like no other group in society.

I have never met them, and their relevance in my life is practically zero.

But I understand that they occupy a special place in the hearts of many people who are traditional and royalist in their outlook.

I will not be watching any media coverage of the UK Queen's funeral or wake.

I am an Irish citizen and I feel at home in Ireland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm indifferent. At a human level I feel for their loss. I'm also able to recognise that whatever my feelings on the actual institution, not one of them chose to be born into the life they were.

They're just a random group of people who thanks to chance were born into very different circumstances to most of the rest of us and some have reacted to that situation in ways that I find more likable than others.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"£84 million a year tax payer funded sovereign grant

Andy had 12 mill of last year to avoid court and prison. "

They are worth penny aren’t they?.. lol What do we get in return? We have to listen non stop about dysfunctional behaviour/relationships

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£84 million a year tax payer funded sovereign grant

Andy had 12 mill of last year to avoid court and prison. "

I may be wrong but I don't believe they are funded by the tax payer's all. The Royal estates make a huge amount of money which is the source of the sovereign grant.

Mr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m a ex soldier, 22 years, I had the honour to be attached to a royal protection team for a number of years, Queen, Philip, our new king , Diana and my greatest honour the Queen Mother, I’ve seen how hard they worked , 96 years old and two days before passing on, the Queen was still working, I have nothing but respect for them, rest in peace ma’am and thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£84 million a year tax payer funded sovereign grant

Andy had 12 mill of last year to avoid court and prison.

I may be wrong but I don't believe they are funded by the tax payer's all. The Royal estates make a huge amount of money which is the source of the sovereign grant.

Mr"

They have a huge property portfolio thanks to the massive land grab started by William the Conqueror.

Legally the crown owns all the land in Britain.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"£84 million a year tax payer funded sovereign grant

Andy had 12 mill of last year to avoid court and prison.

I may be wrong but I don't believe they are funded by the tax payer's all. The Royal estates make a huge amount of money which is the source of the sovereign grant.

Mr"

They receive tax payers money in exchange for profits from the crown estate going to the government. The crown estate is property that the royal family don’t actually own but make money from

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By *ixedDevilMan
over a year ago

Bootyville

Not much to be honest

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By *ixedDevilMan
over a year ago

Bootyville

We are past the point in time where we need a monarchy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m a ex soldier, 22 years, I had the honour to be attached to a royal protection team for a number of years, Queen, Philip, our new king , Diana and my greatest honour the Queen Mother, I’ve seen how hard they worked , 96 years old and two days before passing on, the Queen was still working, I have nothing but respect for them, rest in peace ma’am and thank you "

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By *olvesfunguyMan
over a year ago

WOLVERHAMPTON


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt. "

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

As somebody with royal heritage (*) I feel that I should come out in favour of the monarchy, or at least sit on the fence.

* Traced back 1200 years, switching between male and female lines of descent, and not necessarily all legitimate births, but yes there is a connection to Alfred the Great...

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m a ex soldier, 22 years, I had the honour to be attached to a royal protection team for a number of years, Queen, Philip, our new king , Diana and my greatest honour the Queen Mother, I’ve seen how hard they worked , 96 years old and two days before passing on, the Queen was still working, I have nothing but respect for them, rest in peace ma’am and thank you "

I agree with you. Proud to have worn the Crown on several cap badges.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m a ex soldier, 22 years, I had the honour to be attached to a royal protection team for a number of years, Queen, Philip, our new king , Diana and my greatest honour the Queen Mother, I’ve seen how hard they worked , 96 years old and two days before passing on, the Queen was still working, I have nothing but respect for them, rest in peace ma’am and thank you

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I never met the Queen but have her signature on a rather important bit of paper!

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?"

False equivalence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn't know her

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Fairly little. I find the existence of monarchy morally repugnant, and the new displays of wealth we're about to see will be interesting given we're entering what might be a Dickensian winter.

I am sad that the Queen died. She is also a symbol to me of an idealised nostalgic Britain - bringing ongoing goodwill to the UK through her actions. A constant through most of our lives. I doubt, given the age we live in, that Charles or anyone can sustain that. I suspect - rightly or wrongly - that this will further disintegrate the Commonwealth and remove remaining fig leaves of respectability from the UK's international reputation.

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By *eventysixCouple
over a year ago

glossop

It’s sad when anyone dies…but our life will carry on as normal

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over a year ago


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?"

I work for the NHS so don't play that game.

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By *olvesfunguyMan
over a year ago

WOLVERHAMPTON


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?

I work for the NHS so don't play that game."

Its not a game. You said you dont respect people you dont know. I have respect for loads of people i dont know. I was just giving an example.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hey all, let’s remember to keep it classy. I am only interested in thoughts on the family in general - no need to make it about individual members you do or don’t like xx

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?

I work for the NHS so don't play that game.

Its not a game. You said you dont respect people you dont know. I have respect for loads of people i dont know. I was just giving an example."

I think there are many clumsy choices of words in the desire to get the words out fast. It's an interesting concept.. Respect and the need to personally know someone before you can respect them. I can respect people I don't know but that's just me. I respected the queen. I may well respect the king.. To be discovered. I respect people who protect me, armed forces, police, fire, etc... I respect our elders, I respect some scientists, artists, musicians, leaders, charity workers, do gooders, sports folks who inspire... But that's just me.. Others of course may feel differently and that's fine if it works for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still go with a constitutional monarchy as the best flawed option we have. Like the US, we end up with two main political parties that just lurch from one standpoint to the other periodically, except the monarchy is there as a stabilising influence, providing continuity, and importantly with the power to depose an unacceptable government. Mussolini got too big for his jackboots and was deposed by the Crown. There was no-one to depose Hitler.

King Charles III (feels strange in my mouth) will hopefully just be a space saver. Whilst William would be far better I just wouldn't wish it upon him, and hopefully it won't come his way until his kids are grown, so maybe @20years if he's lucky! He doesn't want it, his grandmother didn't want it, and neither did her father before her, but they all share the same overwhelming sense of duty. Very few British monarchs of the last two centuries wanted it. I think that’s the beauty of the system. It’s the ultimate gilded cage, and every heir to the throne has been well aware just what a bastard of a life it is, and all of them, except Edward VIII, accepted that burden well. The system is built to essentially turn a governance into a sporting match, with the monarch as referee. Presidential Republics are supposed to do that, but because presidents are not outside the political process you essentially end up with a winner take all competition between two competing governments- the executive and the legislature. Three, if you include the judiciary. When everyone holds to the same philosophical understanding of the system, that works, but when they don’t you end up with an (initially) bloodless civil war.

I care about the royal family as an institution because I care about my country. The individuals within it, not so much..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who don't have the basic human value to say sorry officially and do something as a token for the past atrocities.

Hopefully new monarch or someone in future will surely do.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"

I care about the royal family as an institution because I care about my country. The individuals within it, not so much.."

I agree bit I'd say I care about the monarchy not the individuals within it. Theoretically anyone could replace them and the monarchy would keep going much like any institution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

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over a year ago


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!"

Yes but why do you love them?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

I read zo many blue pill comments yesterday. Emotional comments. Comments that fall like empty sacks in the wind if challenged.

Enjoying pomp and circumstance, having blind ignorant beliefs for no reason other than it's pretty or warms you like liquor are insufficient arguments for maintaining such out dated celebrity.

To truly believe that they 'serve the country' in any other fashion except maintaining the status quo , to prevent the people from improving their standing in society, to stop them taking the red pill and having everything tumble before their eyes, to assist the elite and the government in keeping people at bay, protecting themselves by 'not getting involved' when they are so heavily involved in maintaining their pretence and using every opportunity, even family deaths to court public sympathy and strengthen their standing.

Their position is no more than to maintain relations with world leaders and swell their own coffers and as long as they have their front via the support of media and spin doctors for the gullible and unquestioning they will continue.

They are often portrayed as dignified, as a harmless decoration but let’s not forget revelations of the Queen’s consent preventing laws that may reveal her wealth or Charles’s “spider letters” leaning on ministers. Although unsavoury these are relatively trivial. The constitutional problem is not the monarch’s power, but powerlessness.

Support for this antique dysfunction wanes with each generation and it has become fragile. A majority of under-25s expect it to be gone in 25 years. Monarchy is a cast of mind blocking reform. Monarchy is a feudalism of the imagination that stamps approval on inheritance, inequality and privilege, all growing rampantly right now. The crown decorates a riot of constitutional disorder. Abolishing it would open windows into every aspect of how we choose to be governed and how we think of ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They share no importance in my life simply because they are not in it. I can't have love or respect for people I don't know as I believe both those traits are earnt.

So you dont respect anyone you dont know? None of the NHS for what they did during covid?

I work for the NHS so don't play that game.

Its not a game. You said you dont respect people you dont know. I have respect for loads of people i dont know. I was just giving an example."

I can respect someone's job and their contributions to society but I can't respect who they are as a person as I don't know them. Anyone can project a certain image to be admired to the world but only those in their inner circle truely know if they are worthy of respect.

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over a year ago


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

"

Parliament is Sovereign in Britain, we fought a Civil War on this principle. As the law making Commons is elected by popular vote, the British people have sovereignty equal to say the French or US citizens who elect their Presidents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an Irish person they don’t hold any significance to me, a foreign royalty in a foreign land that I happen to live it.

No disrespect just an fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

Yes but why do you love them?"

Love? Who said love?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m sorry that the Queen has died, and she deserves to be mourned and remembered, but I’m a republican, and dismayed about the extent to which our democracy has been corrupted, and I think that all of this pomp and ceremony associated with the monarchy sprays a thin veneer of legitimacy on things, and helps make us all unduly deferent and passive, and gets in the way of the radical change that we need. We need rid of this Government, proportional representation, and a written constitution

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Both of us are Republicans but take no koy in the Queens death as she was a mother/grandmother so basically they mean nothing to either us apart from being a symblol of the inequality in our society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Distantly sad for the family in the same way we would be for anyone who had lost a wife, mother, grandmother etc.

Beyond that, it’s irrelevant to us other than that as a nation we’ll probably get another day off we don’t need and spend more money unnecessarily.

It’s not like the monarchy is ending; just replacing one with another

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Occasional bank holidays.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

They have zero importance to me and I think it is ridiculous we perpetuate their colonial dynasty.

I get a little bit embarrassed when I see (often) working-class people fawning over them. Feels a bit like Stockholm syndrome to me!

Please note, these are my views on the monarchy and royal family, not any particular individual.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

Parliament is Sovereign in Britain, we fought a Civil War on this principle. As the law making Commons is elected by popular vote, the British people have sovereignty equal to say the French or US citizens who elect their Presidents."

Oh dear.

That's the thing that I find strange . Not that folks choose whether they are monarchists or not. But the ignorance of some of the arguments used against them. Don't like them? That's fine. But have a legitimate reason above I'm a Republican get me out of here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic. "

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

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By *orders CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Kelso


"An irrelevant institution to modern society.

Proof we don't live in a meritocracy.

A big family living off benefits.

"

There are lots of those!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

Parliament is Sovereign in Britain, we fought a Civil War on this principle. As the law making Commons is elected by popular vote, the British people have sovereignty equal to say the French or US citizens who elect their Presidents.

Oh dear.

That's the thing that I find strange . Not that folks choose whether they are monarchists or not. But the ignorance of some of the arguments used against them. Don't like them? That's fine. But have a legitimate reason above I'm a Republican get me out of here. "

Is that in response to my comments or Leo's ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

Yes but why do you love them?

Love? Who said love?

"

Or like, I’m kinda interested in why people have the feelings they do more than anything

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over a year ago


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

I read zo many blue pill comments yesterday. Emotional comments. Comments that fall like empty sacks in the wind if challenged.

Enjoying pomp and circumstance, having blind ignorant beliefs for no reason other than it's pretty or warms you like liquor are insufficient arguments for maintaining such out dated celebrity.

To truly believe that they 'serve the country' in any other fashion except maintaining the status quo , to prevent the people from improving their standing in society, to stop them taking the red pill and having everything tumble before their eyes, to assist the elite and the government in keeping people at bay, protecting themselves by 'not getting involved' when they are so heavily involved in maintaining their pretence and using every opportunity, even family deaths to court public sympathy and strengthen their standing.

Their position is no more than to maintain relations with world leaders and swell their own coffers and as long as they have their front via the support of media and spin doctors for the gullible and unquestioning they will continue.

They are often portrayed as dignified, as a harmless decoration but let’s not forget revelations of the Queen’s consent preventing laws that may reveal her wealth or Charles’s “spider letters” leaning on ministers. Although unsavoury these are relatively trivial. The constitutional problem is not the monarch’s power, but powerlessness.

Support for this antique dysfunction wanes with each generation and it has become fragile. A majority of under-25s expect it to be gone in 25 years. Monarchy is a cast of mind blocking reform. Monarchy is a feudalism of the imagination that stamps approval on inheritance, inequality and privilege, all growing rampantly right now. The crown decorates a riot of constitutional disorder. Abolishing it would open windows into every aspect of how we choose to be governed and how we think of ourselves.

"

I’ve never been so turned on by you.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

They mean a lot to me. The Queen was lovely the two times I met her. Growing up we would always toast the queen on her birthday etc.

Been many times to watch trooping of the colour and other events.

For me they represent the heart of Britain and what it is to be British. I have the utmost respect for The Queen and admire her for all her hard work and dedication. I come from a family where most until my generation were in the Military.

I would not like to see them replaced and love all the pomp. I felt proud this year watching the celebrations of the jubilee and although I'm sad that the nation has now lost this huge figure from our life,I'm also glad that she can now rest... I wish in a way she had not taken her vow to serve us all till the very end.. but she took her oath very seriously.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

I read zo many blue pill comments yesterday. Emotional comments. Comments that fall like empty sacks in the wind if challenged.

Enjoying pomp and circumstance, having blind ignorant beliefs for no reason other than it's pretty or warms you like liquor are insufficient arguments for maintaining such out dated celebrity.

To truly believe that they 'serve the country' in any other fashion except maintaining the status quo , to prevent the people from improving their standing in society, to stop them taking the red pill and having everything tumble before their eyes, to assist the elite and the government in keeping people at bay, protecting themselves by 'not getting involved' when they are so heavily involved in maintaining their pretence and using every opportunity, even family deaths to court public sympathy and strengthen their standing.

Their position is no more than to maintain relations with world leaders and swell their own coffers and as long as they have their front via the support of media and spin doctors for the gullible and unquestioning they will continue.

They are often portrayed as dignified, as a harmless decoration but let’s not forget revelations of the Queen’s consent preventing laws that may reveal her wealth or Charles’s “spider letters” leaning on ministers. Although unsavoury these are relatively trivial. The constitutional problem is not the monarch’s power, but powerlessness.

Support for this antique dysfunction wanes with each generation and it has become fragile. A majority of under-25s expect it to be gone in 25 years. Monarchy is a cast of mind blocking reform. Monarchy is a feudalism of the imagination that stamps approval on inheritance, inequality and privilege, all growing rampantly right now. The crown decorates a riot of constitutional disorder. Abolishing it would open windows into every aspect of how we choose to be governed and how we think of ourselves.

"

Great post!

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well."

I see that same argument against privatisation. Just because it was poorly done many years ago, doesn't mean it wouldn't be successful now.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!"

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well."

We also were a monarchy and that didn't go well (for most of the globe). So they changed how they did it.

Maybe it's time to change again.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

We also were a monarchy and that didn't go well (for most of the globe). So they changed how they did it.

Maybe it's time to change again.

"

So who would we have as El Presidente in our Republik? A Trump? Putin? Xi? Jong-un? Berlusconi? Sooner or later they elect themselves for life and become de facto Royals, but more corrupt. I'd rather stay with the real thing.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

We also were a monarchy and that didn't go well (for most of the globe). So they changed how they did it.

Maybe it's time to change again.

So who would we have as El Presidente in our Republik? A Trump? Putin? Xi? Jong-un? Berlusconi? Sooner or later they elect themselves for life and become de facto Royals, but more corrupt. I'd rather stay with the real thing."

That’s pretty much exactly what we have anyway, with the Conservative party and its Labour equivalents. So what purpose is the real thing serving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

We also were a monarchy and that didn't go well (for most of the globe). So they changed how they did it.

Maybe it's time to change again.

So who would we have as El Presidente in our Republik? A Trump? Putin? Xi? Jong-un? Berlusconi? Sooner or later they elect themselves for life and become de facto Royals, but more corrupt. I'd rather stay with the real thing."

Quite. President Chirac of France - convicted of corruption, President Sarkozy - convicted of corruption, President Hollande -stole public money for his girlfriend...Vive Le Republique !

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over a year ago


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

I see that same argument against privatisation. Just because it was poorly done many years ago, doesn't mean it wouldn't be successful now. "

The US is probably the best, most relevant, example of a modern republic failing. A rich country, massive resources in both people and materials. It should be a shining example, yet in less than 250 years it has become polarised with huge public unrest and fear for the futur. The World's most powerful banana republic, because of, well....people.

Ironically, following the American War of Independence, there was a move to make George Washington their King. He declined, but you can't help but wonder...

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

What we need is a referendum. Because the last one went so well. Ant and Dec present it and then a text vote. Eurovision style. Buses with god save the King on one side... And off with their heads on the other. More division is what's needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel empathy for her family as a personal loss but otherwise irrelevant to me other than as cultural/ historical perspective.

Without wishing any of them harm I think George should be the last monarch.I would be good to have a referendum in a few years but then I remembered the last one!!!

I don't mean to offend if you are a royalist or voted out of Europe simply my humble opinion.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

It's a very interesting point. Not sure how much the monarchy really has to do with our lives but certainly we need better politics than we currently have. In many cases however I can't help feeling we get what we wish for. And we the British people simply aren't great any more. We don't work as hard as others, we aren't as kind as others, we aren't as healthy as others, we aren't as smart as others... We need to do better to be better. That's on us.

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over a year ago


"It's a very interesting point. Not sure how much the monarchy really has to do with our lives but certainly we need better politics than we currently have. In many cases however I can't help feeling we get what we wish for. And we the British people simply aren't great any more. We don't work as hard as others, we aren't as kind as others, we aren't as healthy as others, we aren't as smart as others... We need to do better to be better. That's on us. "

Should we form a party?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I don't hate.

Hate is destructive of the self.

I would like to abolish / dissolve / get rid of the monarchy.

It has long been time to return sovereignty to the people.

I read zo many blue pill comments yesterday. Emotional comments. Comments that fall like empty sacks in the wind if challenged.

Enjoying pomp and circumstance, having blind ignorant beliefs for no reason other than it's pretty or warms you like liquor are insufficient arguments for maintaining such out dated celebrity.

To truly believe that they 'serve the country' in any other fashion except maintaining the status quo , to prevent the people from improving their standing in society, to stop them taking the red pill and having everything tumble before their eyes, to assist the elite and the government in keeping people at bay, protecting themselves by 'not getting involved' when they are so heavily involved in maintaining their pretence and using every opportunity, even family deaths to court public sympathy and strengthen their standing.

Their position is no more than to maintain relations with world leaders and swell their own coffers and as long as they have their front via the support of media and spin doctors for the gullible and unquestioning they will continue.

They are often portrayed as dignified, as a harmless decoration but let’s not forget revelations of the Queen’s consent preventing laws that may reveal her wealth or Charles’s “spider letters” leaning on ministers. Although unsavoury these are relatively trivial. The constitutional problem is not the monarch’s power, but powerlessness.

Support for this antique dysfunction wanes with each generation and it has become fragile. A majority of under-25s expect it to be gone in 25 years. Monarchy is a cast of mind blocking reform. Monarchy is a feudalism of the imagination that stamps approval on inheritance, inequality and privilege, all growing rampantly right now. The crown decorates a riot of constitutional disorder. Abolishing it would open windows into every aspect of how we choose to be governed and how we think of ourselves.

"

So true!

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I like her

Are the royals history soaked in the blood of colonised courtiers? Yes

All history is soaked in that blood. All of it.

Just so happen, the British were the best at it. And had it not been us doing it, it would be us taking it. So I don’t care snout that’s stuff. It’s real easy to point fingers at the past when your sat living in the biggest peace time expansion is history.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"I feel empathy for her family as a personal loss but otherwise irrelevant to me other than as cultural/ historical perspective."

Much as I too would like to regard them as an irrelevancy, the monarchy and the system are all to relevant to where we are now as a country. QE2 played a straight bat in the foreground over the last 75 years, but recent revelations have shed light on the misuse of royal privilege not just by her but also by KC3. Apologies if this offends.

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over a year ago


"

Just so happen, the British were the best at it. And had it not been us doing it, it would be us taking it. So I don’t care snout that’s stuff. It’s real easy to point fingers at the past when your sat living in the biggest peace time expansion is history. "

This is so mad. To say you don’t care feels wild. You don’t even know that it’s true that if the British hasn’t colonised all those countries that they themselves would’ve been colonised themselves. And also the suggestion at the end feels like it doesn’t account for the fact that colonialism/ colonial expansion, trading people etc invariably links to the experiences of non white, colonised peoples across their diasporas.

But having said all that, thanks for actually answering the OP.

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"I like her

Are the royals history soaked in the blood of colonised courtiers? Yes

All history is soaked in that blood. All of it.

Just so happen, the British were the best at it. And had it not been us doing it, it would be us taking it. So I don’t care snout that’s stuff. It’s real easy to point fingers at the past when your sat living in the biggest peace time expansion is history. "

LOL what a load of crock.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"

Just so happen, the British were the best at it. And had it not been us doing it, it would be us taking it. So I don’t care snout that’s stuff. It’s real easy to point fingers at the past when your sat living in the biggest peace time expansion is history.

This is so mad. To say you don’t care feels wild. You don’t even know that it’s true that if the British hasn’t colonised all those countries that they themselves would’ve been colonised themselves. And also the suggestion at the end feels like it doesn’t account for the fact that colonialism/ colonial expansion, trading people etc invariably links to the experiences of non white, colonised peoples across their diasporas.

But having said all that, thanks for actually answering the OP.

"

Just to clarify, I obviously care about wrong doings and bad things done in history

What I don’t care about is who did them specifically, because everyone was doing it. And had another country mastered the sea like the British did we’d be telling the story from the other side.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

Just so happen, the British were the best at it. And had it not been us doing it, it would be us taking it. So I don’t care snout that’s stuff. It’s real easy to point fingers at the past when your sat living in the biggest peace time expansion is history.

This is so mad. To say you don’t care feels wild. You don’t even know that it’s true that if the British hasn’t colonised all those countries that they themselves would’ve been colonised themselves. And also the suggestion at the end feels like it doesn’t account for the fact that colonialism/ colonial expansion, trading people etc invariably links to the experiences of non white, colonised peoples across their diasporas.

But having said all that, thanks for actually answering the OP.

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I'm aware that my perspective is rooted in part in white privilege - even though my ancestors were themselves displaced and dispossessed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?"

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!"

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

They’re on the same par as all the tourist attractions, but I’m sorry it’s Alton towers all the way for me.

The mr

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By *aturefun63Man
over a year ago

Belper

An outdated institution

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"Quite. President Chirac of France - convicted of corruption, President Sarkozy - convicted of corruption, President Hollande -stole public money for his girlfriend...Vive Le Republique !"

Thank goodness there's never any corruption in the untouchable royal family!

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!"

I'm not sure that's the point.

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"They mean absolutely nothing in my life.

I'm Irish and although I'm born and bred in Northern Ireland I can recognise the Queen's passing as a sad event for her family and the loss of a mother, grandmother and great grandmother but I don't recognise her or any other member of the Royal Family beyond that.

RB"

Substitute N.I for Wales and this is my thinking too.

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By *ld StrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Telford

I think they are important. They as other royal families are living history moving forward and for some ( not all may I add) Grafters.

Not to mention a massive merchandise machine that’s brought to our country.

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By *eptimiusMan
over a year ago

East

Racist parasitic peodos what they mean to me.

Come at me with your hate I dont care.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Racist parasitic peodos what they mean to me.

Come at me with your hate I dont care. "

All of them? X

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Racist parasitic peodos what they mean to me.

Come at me with your hate I dont care. "

Nice to see you’re following the op and keeping it classy

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

They mean tradition,consistency and stability to me. In a world of constant change, to see the role of Head of State pass so seamlessly this morning in such a dignified spectacle was somewhat reassuring.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I think the royal family is an anachronism that is useful for tourism. They were been stripped of their power a long time ago, fortunately.

I hear a lot about their service to this country but I have never figured out exactly what that is. I suspect their importance has been massively overblown by the media and they are mostly just celebrities by accident of birth.

I don't dislike them and I don't want to see them abolished, but I am very pragmatic about them. They are useful for the image of this country. I don't know them and they have no discernible impact on my life. I am not I any way emotional about recent events, but I am watching what is happening, just passively, because it is an interesting historical event I have the privilege of living through. I am merely an observer. Luke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really sure. Do we need a royal family? I see it as a lot of unnecessary faff on one hand but the other I see it as just part of British culture and history. I don’t really know much about them really. They do a lot of charity work right? That’s a good thing.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"They mean very little to me. I dislike the institution and think we should be a republic.

We were a Republic. It didn't go well.

I see that same argument against privatisation. Just because it was poorly done many years ago, doesn't mean it wouldn't be successful now.

The US is probably the best, most relevant, example of a modern republic failing. A rich country, massive resources in both people and materials. It should be a shining example, yet in less than 250 years it has become polarised with huge public unrest and fear for the futur. The World's most powerful banana republic, because of, well....people.

Ironically, following the American War of Independence, there was a move to make George Washington their King. He declined, but you can't help but wonder..."

A ceremonial monarch wouldn't make everything rosy in the US.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

There seems to be a misunderstanding of the role of the Monarch as Constitutional Head. It's more than tradition and tourism. It's like a Chairman in a company, not running the company day-to-day, but a wise old head keeping an eye on things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not really sure. Do we need a royal family? I see it as a lot of unnecessary faff on one hand but the other I see it as just part of British culture and history. I don’t really know much about them really. They do a lot of charity work right? That’s a good thing.

Yep but so do a lot of people in this country! I work in the charity sector. I have a lot more respect for those without privilege and hundreds of millions in the bank who do amazing work.

Jane Sutton comes to mind! She raised over 7 million pounds for a teenage cancer ward after losing her son Stephen to cancer. She also donates considerable time too.

There are thousands of ordinary people nationwide who donate more time than the queen to charitable causes. Easy to donate time when your wealthy much more difficult when you have a family to feed! "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for. "

I think you misunderstand. The people who begrudge the monarchy hardly do so because they're missing the money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are lots of arguments for and against.

The Queen wss arguably at her happiest as a Navy Wife in Malta. She was thrust into a job that she was groomed for, but never took the option to retire.

She held an audience with Liz Truss on Tuesday, dead on Thursday. She would have been working constantly.

On holiday she would still have work to do.

If you look at the schedule of some of the other Royals, you will see that the majority are the patrons of 100's of charities. Yes, a charity volunteer may work every day and commit their lives to the one charity, but the Royals who actually work have so little control over their lives and can add value to every charity they are associated with just by being associated.

A Presidency wouldn't neccesarily be cheaper to run and as other have commented, would deliver some proper fruit loops.

I accept that others see them as an irrelevancy, but there are still many European Royal Families who are younger and a bit more modern, whenever Wills gets in the throne, he will no doubt take the crown in a different direction.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for.

I think you misunderstand. The people who begrudge the monarchy hardly do so because they're missing the money."

So why do they harp on about it?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for.

I think you misunderstand. The people who begrudge the monarchy hardly do so because they're missing the money.

So why do they harp on about it? "

Have you read any of the answers given above, as to why we have a problem with it? That might help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are lots of arguments for and against.

The Queen wss arguably at her happiest as a Navy Wife in Malta. She was thrust into a job that she was groomed for, but never took the option to retire.

She held an audience with Liz Truss on Tuesday, dead on Thursday. She would have been working constantly.

On holiday she would still have work to do.

If you look at the schedule of some of the other Royals, you will see that the majority are the patrons of 100's of charities. Yes, a charity volunteer may work every day and commit their lives to the one charity, but the Royals who actually work have so little control over their lives and can add value to every charity they are associated with just by being associated.

A Presidency wouldn't neccesarily be cheaper to run and as other have commented, would deliver some proper fruit loops.

I accept that others see them as an irrelevancy, but there are still many European Royal Families who are younger and a bit more modern, whenever Wills gets in the throne, he will no doubt take the crown in a different direction.

"

Royals do not add a tonne of value to charities. It was a running joke at my previous job. We had 2 royals as patrons and their involvement did not equal more media attention or more fundraised income sadly! We got more media from our celebrity ambassadors and patrons!

So I will says the royals do not add value to every charity plus they require a tonne of attention from staff in those charities. I’m sure there’s some royals that add value to some charities but it’s certainly not every charity!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for.

I think you misunderstand. The people who begrudge the monarchy hardly do so because they're missing the money.

So why do they harp on about it?

Have you read any of the answers given above, as to why we have a problem with it? That might help."

I was responding to a post that was moaning about the cost. I'm allowed to that aren't I your majesty?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Kate and I have always been Royalists and were very sad about The Queen dying.

We're just waiting for social media to go apoplectic at the cost of her funeral and The Kings Coronation. Worth every penny!

You mean the way all media is currently go crazy over the queen and her legacy? And of course social media will highlight the cost of the funeral and coronation - we're constantly told there's no money for this and that, and the price of everything is rising, but now we've got plenty of money to spend on a funeral and outdated ceremony.

Keep the serfs entertained and they'll forget the sorry mess we're in.

I'm not sure it'll be "worth" the cost, however, I'm not sure that's important. The real question for me is why are we paying for someone else's funeral? Do the family not have the money or self-respect to pay for it themselves?

The cost is a 'drop in the ocean' compared to what spent on other things!

Just over a pound each. People should be careful what they wish for.

I think you misunderstand. The people who begrudge the monarchy hardly do so because they're missing the money.

So why do they harp on about it?

Have you read any of the answers given above, as to why we have a problem with it? That might help.

I was responding to a post that was moaning about the cost. I'm allowed to that aren't I your majesty? "

So I was supposed to know that you were only talking about people whose sole or primary complaint was money? I'm not a mind reader.

If I've ever implied that no one is allowed their opinion, please do point that out. If not, trying to make it seem like my opinion is an attempt to wipe out others is profoundly dishonest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Racist parasitic peodos what they mean to me.

Come at me with your hate I dont care. "

This is not that kinda thread bro. Ngl.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government. "

They haven't refused to sign a piece of legislation since the 1700's. Either every bit of law has been spot on or they don't actually provide any extra layer at all.

Gbat

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm not a royalist but I certainly don't hate them or think there shouldn't be a monarchy as it's a nice layer of protection above the government.

They haven't refused to sign a piece of legislation since the 1700's. Either every bit of law has been spot on or they don't actually provide any extra layer at all.

Gbat "

I'm pretty sure the constitutional crisis, if they did refuse, would be epic.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

I was in the village of Royal Hillsborough today, and the crowds around the outside of the residence, that is currently closed were phenomenal.

Naturally, a lot of the protestant/unionist folk in Northern Ireland have a deep affection for, and a commitment to the Windsor family; it is an intrinsic part of their identity.

I do not share that sense of belonging;but crucially I do not share a sense of belonging to Catholicism or the catholic faith or the catholic clergy.

Prince Charles and Camilla are scheduled come to NI on Tuesday; security in Hillsborough today was at his highest level for a long time-very tight restrictions on floral tributes, cuddly toys, etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What surprised me the most was the state funeral and the coronation of the new King will cost the U.K. government upwards of £6bn.

Without the Royal family, the money could be spent on homeless, hospitals or the cost of living crisis. Just a thought.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"What surprised me the most was the state funeral and the coronation of the new King will cost the U.K. government upwards of £6bn.

Without the Royal family, the money could be spent on homeless, hospitals or the cost of living crisis. Just a thought.

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May I ask where that figure came from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I’m a republican, I never think about them

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Charles will always remain, to me, as The Artist Formerly Known As Prince.

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By *ez669Man
over a year ago

East Kilbride

They mean zero to me but there is lots of information out there about the shady things they get upto

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh its a bit formal this royal class stuff but its cool having one but she was concience of the uk with her gone theres noboy left to calm the food riots to come

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By *akie32Man
over a year ago

winchester

I was lucky enough to meet her as a oid when shebvisit our school, got to have a chat with her, lovely lady

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

It's actually absurd in 2022 that we maintain the existence of people who get to live in luxury because of their family and birth.

Not to mention all the dodgy stuff they do with the wealth and power we give them for no reason.

(tourism is not a reason to keep them, they are not the major tourist attractions of the UK and other countries without monarchies attract visitors to their old palaces and so forth just fine)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tbh its a bit formal this royal class stuff but its cool having one but she was concience of the uk with her gone theres noboy left to calm the food riots to come"

Execpt of the King of course.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's actually absurd in 2022 that we maintain the existence of people who get to live in luxury because of their family and birth.

Not to mention all the dodgy stuff they do with the wealth and power we give them for no reason.

(tourism is not a reason to keep them, they are not the major tourist attractions of the UK and other countries without monarchies attract visitors to their old palaces and so forth just fine) "

Agreed

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By *ooBulMan
over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

I would rather have a King or Queen rather than a President Borris/Blair/Cameron. Shiver over myself there!

And I'm not a royalist in the slightest.

I personally don't think they can identify with us mere mortals nor understand what we go through or feel. The royal family is very well off financially. Not being mean or disrespectful b.t.w....

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"It's actually absurd in 2022 that we maintain the existence of people who get to live in luxury because of their family and birth.

Not to mention all the dodgy stuff they do with the wealth and power we give them for no reason.

(tourism is not a reason to keep them, they are not the major tourist attractions of the UK and other countries without monarchies attract visitors to their old palaces and so forth just fine)

Agreed "

Double agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They mean as much to me as I mean to them

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Within Charles the Third's reign, that will be approximately twenty years in length, the UK should move to a position where the Windsor family will be financially self-sufficient.

In a post imperial context the UK cannot afford the luxury of a monarchy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ooo. It’ll be over soon. I’m glad we did it. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are worth every penny for winding up the people they do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thread closed: Sunday 11th September 2022

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