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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I got 1.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Me too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Me too."

I watched a tik tok and everyone said 16 and I needed validation

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

16

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"16"

And so it begins

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I thought you worked from left to right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

21

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By *ig_eric_tionMan
over a year ago

IPSWICH

I think 16. I'd be interested to see how you get 1.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought you worked from left to right"

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8 "

2x4 because the 4 is still in the bracket. It’s just the sum of the bracket.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Its 16

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2+2 =4

8/2 =4

It's implied you multiply together.. 4 *4 =16

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By *ig_eric_tionMan
over a year ago

IPSWICH

8/2=4 (2+2) = 4

I was taught written like that one product is multiplied by the other.

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By *uriouscouple83Couple
over a year ago

Worcester

It’s 16, all about the BODMAS innit.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

How can it be anything other than 16 ?

Bodmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I look like Joey Tribbiani at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BODMAS: acronym to help remember the correct order in which to solve maths problems. Bodmas stands for:

B-Brackets

O-Orders (powers/indices or roots)

D-Division

M-Multiplication

A-Addition

S-Subtraction

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"2+2 =4

8/2 =4

It's implied you multiply together.. 4 *4 =16"

This.

I’m not sure why you’re dividing after, Steve

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By *uriouscouple83Couple
over a year ago

Worcester


"I look like Joey Tribbiani at the moment."

Mmmmmm noodle soup.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely 16.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I look like Joey Tribbiani at the moment.

Mmmmmm noodle soup. "

Yeah.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"8/2=4 (2+2) = 4

I was taught written like that one product is multiplied by the other. "

^^^This

It's 16

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8 "

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

16

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8 "

So did I.

Using Bodmas we're supposed to do the divide before the multiply though.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though"

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

"

So it is 16, Steve.

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I thought you worked from left to right"

I was taught the old mnemonic BODMAS.In this order:-

1. brackets

2. Order of powers or roots

3. divide

4. multiply

5. add

6. subtract.

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

You can always cheat and put it into a computer and get 16.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I thought you worked from left to right

I was taught the old mnemonic BODMAS.In this order:-

1. brackets

2. Order of powers or roots

3. divide

4. multiply

5. add

6. subtract."

So should it be (2+2)=4 8/2=4 ?

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

Ahhh….maths is not my strong point

I’ll say 24 randomly and hope for the possibility (although likely an improbability) that I’ll be correct

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

So it is 16, Steve."

Yeah I watched two videos on it.

Basically I’m doing it as 8/(2(2+2)) because that’s how I was taught. It’s long but Google says 16. Some calculators say 1. Some mathematicians say 16 some say 1.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

So it is 16, Steve.

Yeah I watched two videos on it.

Basically I’m doing it as 8/(2(2+2)) because that’s how I was taught. It’s long but Google says 16. Some calculators say 1. Some mathematicians say 16 some say 1. "

To get 16 it’s (8/2) (2+2) which = 16.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE. "

That's a good grade

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade "

A fluke apparently

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

"

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule"

No idea what you just said

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said "

I don't think they're a thing any more

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said "

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons "

Lol this is even more confusing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more"

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing? "

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young "

And I'm super old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young "

And you sit on somebody else's bench! The youth of today!

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.

16. I seem to remember BODMAS from school mathematics.....40 off years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

16

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"16"

2+2=4 which inch is then times by the sum of 8/2 so 4x4=16

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

And I'm super old"

I know. A perfect match.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

And you sit on somebody else's bench! The youth of today! "

Gen Z are all wrongens. No respect for anyone else!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

And you sit on somebody else's bench! The youth of today!

Gen Z are all wrongens. No respect for anyone else!! "

Even worse than the pesky millennials!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing?

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall"

We needed a hockey stick, a tennis racquet was advised and we needed the protractor and set square. But not the slide rule. We did need aprons for art/pottery and food tech and also for design and technology. Not for science (we just rolled up our sleeves and tucked our ties in )

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby

16 for me, BIDMAS

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

And you sit on somebody else's bench! The youth of today!

Gen Z are all wrongens. No respect for anyone else!!

Even worse than the pesky millennials! "

Millennials would definitely sit somewhere they’re not supposed to as well. They’re just as bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

I don't think they're a thing any more

Ah yeah I forgot I’m like super young

And you sit on somebody else's bench! The youth of today!

Gen Z are all wrongens. No respect for anyone else!!

Even worse than the pesky millennials!

Millennials would definitely sit somewhere they’re not supposed to as well. They’re just as bad "

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing?

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall

We needed a hockey stick, a tennis racquet was advised and we needed the protractor and set square. But not the slide rule. We did need aprons for art/pottery and food tech and also for design and technology. Not for science (we just rolled up our sleeves and tucked our ties in )"

I'm reminiscing now. My school was so old-fashioned even in those days, I feel quite nostalgic

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing?

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall

We needed a hockey stick, a tennis racquet was advised and we needed the protractor and set square. But not the slide rule. We did need aprons for art/pottery and food tech and also for design and technology. Not for science (we just rolled up our sleeves and tucked our ties in )

I'm reminiscing now. My school was so old-fashioned even in those days, I feel quite nostalgic "

Ours was pretty old fashioned too, for the late 90s. Bloody gym knickers and super short pleated gym skirts too

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing?

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall

We needed a hockey stick, a tennis racquet was advised and we needed the protractor and set square. But not the slide rule. We did need aprons for art/pottery and food tech and also for design and technology. Not for science (we just rolled up our sleeves and tucked our ties in )

I'm reminiscing now. My school was so old-fashioned even in those days, I feel quite nostalgic

Ours was pretty old fashioned too, for the late 90s. Bloody gym knickers and super short pleated gym skirts too "

The ridiculous rules too. No eating in the street while in school uniform. Hats on for the entire journey to and from school, anyone caught without had to wear it all day in school next day, even in gym

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

With typed layout all in one line, using the fab forum titles font, it is pretty well impossible to determine the correct parsing of the expression as intended by the writer.

Rewriting it as 8/2*(2+2) does have a unique parsing in the C computer language, but is still unclear to anyone that has not memorised the order of precedence for operators as detailed in the C99 specification (earlier or later specification issues are also available).

If a programmer working for me had written this line, without an accompanying comment explaining precisely what the intention was, I would give him grief during a code review. I often deal with pieces of code that have to be maintained for 20+ years, and trying to understand what someone long departed the company actually meant to write costs time and money. If it is not perfectly clear how the equation is intended to be parsed, extra brackets should be added to make it perfectly clear.

The given sum should thus be written either as:

(8/2)*(2+2) = (4)*(4) = 16

or as:

8/(2*(2+2)) = 8/(2*4) = 8/8 = 1

If the section of code was within the software for a safety critical system, eg. aircraft control, life support equipment, vehicle engine management, nuclear missile guidance, it would be a bit late after the event to say "oops, I thought the computer would know how I meant that expression to be processed".

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

No idea what you just said

Like an ancient scientific calculator, but without the buttons

Lol this is even more confusing?

They were on the list of things I had to have when I went to grammar school, along with a tennis racquet and hockey stick, protractor, set square and a very attractive navy blue science overall

We needed a hockey stick, a tennis racquet was advised and we needed the protractor and set square. But not the slide rule. We did need aprons for art/pottery and food tech and also for design and technology. Not for science (we just rolled up our sleeves and tucked our ties in )

I'm reminiscing now. My school was so old-fashioned even in those days, I feel quite nostalgic

Ours was pretty old fashioned too, for the late 90s. Bloody gym knickers and super short pleated gym skirts too

The ridiculous rules too. No eating in the street while in school uniform. Hats on for the entire journey to and from school, anyone caught without had to wear it all day in school next day, even in gym "

Bags carried below shoulder level (even backpacks, not allowed to be worn on the back!)

Not allowed to go down the middle stairs unless you were in the 5th or 6th form.

Socks could only be white, black or bottle green

No dark soled gym shoes indoors

Everyone needed a specific Bible edition

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby


"With typed layout all in one line, using the fab forum titles font, it is pretty well impossible to determine the correct parsing of the expression as intended by the writer.

Rewriting it as 8/2*(2+2) does have a unique parsing in the C computer language, but is still unclear to anyone that has not memorised the order of precedence for operators as detailed in the C99 specification (earlier or later specification issues are also available).

If a programmer working for me had written this line, without an accompanying comment explaining precisely what the intention was, I would give him grief during a code review. I often deal with pieces of code that have to be maintained for 20+ years, and trying to understand what someone long departed the company actually meant to write costs time and money. If it is not perfectly clear how the equation is intended to be parsed, extra brackets should be added to make it perfectly clear.

The given sum should thus be written either as:

(8/2)*(2+2) = (4)*(4) = 16

or as:

8/(2*(2+2)) = 8/(2*4) = 8/8 = 1

If the section of code was within the software for a safety critical system, eg. aircraft control, life support equipment, vehicle engine management, nuclear missile guidance, it would be a bit late after the event to say "oops, I thought the computer would know how I meant that expression to be processed"."

Surely, in the absence of the additional set of brackets, there is an implied multiplication sign where a number proceeds a bracket?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"With typed layout all in one line, using the fab forum titles font, it is pretty well impossible to determine the correct parsing of the expression as intended by the writer.

Rewriting it as 8/2*(2+2) does have a unique parsing in the C computer language, but is still unclear to anyone that has not memorised the order of precedence for operators as detailed in the C99 specification (earlier or later specification issues are also available).

If a programmer working for me had written this line, without an accompanying comment explaining precisely what the intention was, I would give him grief during a code review. I often deal with pieces of code that have to be maintained for 20+ years, and trying to understand what someone long departed the company actually meant to write costs time and money. If it is not perfectly clear how the equation is intended to be parsed, extra brackets should be added to make it perfectly clear.

The given sum should thus be written either as:

(8/2)*(2+2) = (4)*(4) = 16

or as:

8/(2*(2+2)) = 8/(2*4) = 8/8 = 1

If the section of code was within the software for a safety critical system, eg. aircraft control, life support equipment, vehicle engine management, nuclear missile guidance, it would be a bit late after the event to say "oops, I thought the computer would know how I meant that expression to be processed".

Surely, in the absence of the additional set of brackets, there is an implied multiplication sign where a number proceeds a bracket?"

Implied yes. But if it might make the difference between an airplane climbing upwards or diving vertically, it really isn't a good idea to rely on "implied".

A few years ago there was a billion dollar probe sent to Mars. The american software engineers assumed that it was implied that a particular number was a speed in miles per hour. The european software engineers assumed that it was implied the number was a speed in metres per second. Instead of the probe making the desired approach to the surface and landing gently, it smacked into the ground at approximately one thousand miles an hour... A billion dollars, twenty years in the making, the life work of hundreds of people - nothing but a crater in the sand remaining because of "implied"...

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby


"With typed layout all in one line, using the fab forum titles font, it is pretty well impossible to determine the correct parsing of the expression as intended by the writer.

Rewriting it as 8/2*(2+2) does have a unique parsing in the C computer language, but is still unclear to anyone that has not memorised the order of precedence for operators as detailed in the C99 specification (earlier or later specification issues are also available).

If a programmer working for me had written this line, without an accompanying comment explaining precisely what the intention was, I would give him grief during a code review. I often deal with pieces of code that have to be maintained for 20+ years, and trying to understand what someone long departed the company actually meant to write costs time and money. If it is not perfectly clear how the equation is intended to be parsed, extra brackets should be added to make it perfectly clear.

The given sum should thus be written either as:

(8/2)*(2+2) = (4)*(4) = 16

or as:

8/(2*(2+2)) = 8/(2*4) = 8/8 = 1

If the section of code was within the software for a safety critical system, eg. aircraft control, life support equipment, vehicle engine management, nuclear missile guidance, it would be a bit late after the event to say "oops, I thought the computer would know how I meant that expression to be processed".

Surely, in the absence of the additional set of brackets, there is an implied multiplication sign where a number proceeds a bracket?

Implied yes. But if it might make the difference between an airplane climbing upwards or diving vertically, it really isn't a good idea to rely on "implied".

A few years ago there was a billion dollar probe sent to Mars. The american software engineers assumed that it was implied that a particular number was a speed in miles per hour. The european software engineers assumed that it was implied the number was a speed in metres per second. Instead of the probe making the desired approach to the surface and landing gently, it smacked into the ground at approximately one thousand miles an hour... A billion dollars, twenty years in the making, the life work of hundreds of people - nothing but a crater in the sand remaining because of "implied"..."

Being picky but that's an incorrect assumption rather than an implication

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By *xydadbodMan
over a year ago

Milton keynes

So it's 16 right? The suspense is killing me now lol

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By *orny DeucesCouple
over a year ago

Mansfield

42

The answer to life, the universe and everything is 42

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These questions invariably rely on poorly written equations relying on standard keyboard input rather than the tyoe of display dedicated maths software would give. Whether it's 1 or 16 depends entirely on whether you view the bracketed equation as being written as part of the denominator or not.

In any maths test, this would be visually obvious from the positioning of the numbers.

Given it is ambiguous it could be either 1 or 16. Personally I feel the bracketed expression is written on the same line as the fraction meaning it isn't part of the denominator therefore the result is 16.

Mr

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I got 16

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

16 The end.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

After reading some of the replies I’m convinced maths is just racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

²¹³

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

I’m filling up with nostalgia I can’t believe people know of BODMAS! Everyone looks at me like I’m insane round ‘ere!

Anyway, I make it 16

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

As a child of a crappy school I have no recollection of bodmas it was alway from l-r , I picked this whole bodmas stuff up later in life. So to me it's all bollocks with people trying to show how clever they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a child of a crappy school I have no recollection of bodmas it was alway from l-r , I picked this whole bodmas stuff up later in life. So to me it's all bollocks with people trying to show how clever they are. "
this exept i never went to school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people got 16 as the answer, and some people got 1. The confusion has to do with the difference between modern and historic interpretations of the order of operations. The correct answer today is 16. An answer of 1 would have been correct 100 years ago.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend


"I got 1. "
so did i

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

So it is 16, Steve.

Yeah I watched two videos on it.

Basically I’m doing it as 8/(2(2+2)) because that’s how I was taught. It’s long but Google says 16. Some calculators say 1. Some mathematicians say 16 some say 1. "

Why would it be that when the 2 elements are clearly separate? You added additional brackets.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question. "

Why would you add brackets?

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question.

Why would you add brackets?"

I'm adding brackets in both cases to show two ways it could be read. If this was a serious question, a second pair of brackets would have been put in.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"I thought you worked from left to right

I did 2+2 and then 2 x 4 and then 8/8

8/2=4 (2+2)=4 4x4 = 16

I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of anyone's fevered imagination though

Even mathematicians argue over which order to do them in.

I forgot division was before multiply.

So it is 16, Steve.

Yeah I watched two videos on it.

Basically I’m doing it as 8/(2(2+2)) because that’s how I was taught. It’s long but Google says 16. Some calculators say 1. Some mathematicians say 16 some say 1.

Why would it be that when the 2 elements are clearly separate? You added additional brackets. "

Yes, but "clearly separate" is not a defined term in maths. The S in BODMAS stands for subtraction, not separated.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend


"It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question. "

it is

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By *dventurous biMan
over a year ago

tesside

It’s 16, or 1, which would you like?

blah blah waffle add in a witty line about wishing I could give someone one fnarr fnarr

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

16

If you follow the order of calculations it is undeniably 16.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question. "

It's numeric rather than worded.

It's very clear.

Brackets mean do THIS bit first.

There is no confusion in the example given. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Defo 16. ... I think

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It's ambiguous. It doesn't say whether it is

(8/2) x (2+2) (which equals 16)

or

8/(2(2+2)) (which equals 1)

It's a badly-worded question.

Why would you add brackets?

I'm adding brackets in both cases to show two ways it could be read. If this was a serious question, a second pair of brackets would have been put in. "

It WAS a serious Q Before someone changed the rules and added brackets willy nilly....

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Surely it’s 16.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"After reading some of the replies I’m convinced maths is just racist "

Same.

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By *etite_delightWoman
over a year ago

BunnyLand

I would say 4 4 there is no sign between 8/2 and (2+2) . Will they need to multiply or what?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One thing I’ve learned about maths in the last day is that there’s more than one way of doing it. Maths, like anything has changed over time. Perhaps silly of me but I assumed that it’s been the same since it was done in Egypt or wherever thousands of years ago.

It’s more interesting than I’ve given it credit for in the past

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Some people got 16 as the answer, and some people got 1. The confusion has to do with the difference between modern and historic interpretations of the order of operations. The correct answer today is 16. An answer of 1 would have been correct 100 years ago."

Oh really ?

Under what rules? According to whom ?

News to me. Unless you mean the mnemonic was put into use to help people remember the order but the MATHS is not new.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

It’s 16, all day, every day.

Those making it 1, have decided to rewrite the question.

In the form it was originally presented by the OP, it can only ever be 16. (Disclaimer, I only achieved a C at O level)

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"One thing I’ve learned about maths in the last day is that there’s more than one way of doing it. Maths, like anything has changed over time. Perhaps silly of me but I assumed that it’s been the same since it was done in Egypt or wherever thousands of years ago.

It’s more interesting than I’ve given it credit for in the past "

The maths stays the same. People's methods of solving change as they come up with new/easier ways etc ..... the MATHS doesn't change.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"One thing I’ve learned about maths in the last day is that there’s more than one way of doing it. Maths, like anything has changed over time. Perhaps silly of me but I assumed that it’s been the same since it was done in Egypt or wherever thousands of years ago.

It’s more interesting than I’ve given it credit for in the past

The maths stays the same. People's methods of solving change as they come up with new/easier ways etc ..... the MATHS doesn't change. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I would say 4 4 there is no sign between 8/2 and (2+2) . Will they need to multiply or what? "

Solve the bracket.

Then multiply it by whatever is outside the bracket.

The bracket indicates that multiplication will take place IF there is something to multiply it by.

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford


"I got 1. "

I’d give you 1

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby


"2+2 =4

8/2 =4

It's implied you multiply together.. 4 *4 =16"

Yeah, that's what I thought as well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I got 1.

I’d give you 1 "

Oh, man. I’ve been waiting for this entire thread for you to say that

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

8/2 (2+2)=

I've finally gone for {[(8) / (2)] x [(2) + (2) ]} = {[( ])} OR - / + ~~

Just to finally clear things up.

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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

I got 16

Using BODMAS

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"8/2 (2+2)=

I've finally gone for {[(8) / (2)] x [(2) + (2) ]} = {[( ])} OR - / + ~~

Just to finally clear things up."

It’s clear you’re the smartest person in this thread.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Surely it’s 16. "

Stop calling me Shirley

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

It's too early for this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's too early for this"

It wasn’t when I posted it

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford


"I got 1.

I’d give you 1

Oh, man. I’ve been waiting for this entire thread for you to say that "

I try not to disappoint

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By *edsmudgeMan
over a year ago

oxford

I’m bowing to the superior knowledge of the forums

But can I ask why we multiply the two equations?

I got 8 obvs

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By *edsmudgeMan
over a year ago

oxford


"I would say 4 4 there is no sign between 8/2 and (2+2) . Will they need to multiply or what?

Solve the bracket.

Then multiply it by whatever is outside the bracket.

The bracket indicates that multiplication will take place IF there is something to multiply it by."

Must also learn to read entire thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

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By *ickshawedCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now. "

What if a correct answer guaranteed you sex with me? Would you break out the abacus?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now. "

Maths is sexy

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

Maths is sexy "

It's really not

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London

There's a whole heap of stuff on this and the answer is that the equation is deliberately imprecise to allow both interpretations. So there is no "wrong" answer.

If the equation is written like this

8

------

2(2+2)

then the whole of the bit below the line is effectively in brackets. And the answer is 1

If it's

8 (2+2)

-

2

Then the (2+2) is no longer below the line and the answer is 16.

So everyone is right. Especially whoever said 42.

G

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

Maths is sexy "

It really is, many a time I've seduced Ella by whispering the Monty Hall problem into her ear.....

G

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By *dventurous biMan
over a year ago

tesside


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

Maths is sexy

It really is, many a time I've seduced Ella by whispering the Monty Hall problem into her ear.....

G"

I’d be happy to be switched after you’ve shown me your goat…

or something something something, FAF?

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

Maths is sexy

It really is, many a time I've seduced Ella by whispering the Monty Hall problem into her ear.....

G

I’d be happy to be switched after you’ve shown me your goat…

or something something something, FAF?"

Spot on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok now at what point in life does knowing this become important

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London

Does knowledge have to be important? Or is it inherently important?

Hmm, maths and philosophy... What a rush....

G

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does knowledge have to be important? Or is it inherently important?

Hmm, maths and philosophy... What a rush....

G"

I’m loving your contributions G

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bodmas

Brackets

Order of powers or roots

Division

Multiplication

Addition

Subtraction so it’s 2+2 and then 8/2 so then it’s 4(4) which is 4 x 4

It still blows my head when I’m trying to work why it’s this way but hey …..nerds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's 1 x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

16

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's 1 x"

Wait no its 16

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's 1 x

Wait no its 16 "

Or either?

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By *orny DeucesCouple
over a year ago

Mansfield


"So everyone is right. Especially whoever said 42.

G"

The answer is always 42

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By *etite_delightWoman
over a year ago

BunnyLand


"I would say 4 4 there is no sign between 8/2 and (2+2) . Will they need to multiply or what?

Solve the bracket.

Then multiply it by whatever is outside the bracket.

The bracket indicates that multiplication will take place IF there is something to multiply it by.

Must also learn to read entire thread"

Ermm brackets doesn’t mean that you need to multiply! brackets are a set of marks, like parentheses, that are used to enclose a group of terms and in this case sum of two numbers needs prioritising so whatever sign you put outside & and in front of the bracket whether +,-, x, / effect the end result.

If the question was 8/2x(2+2)=16 if the question was 8/2/(2+2) = 1 or could be 8/2+(2+2) = 8 or 8/2-(2+2)=0 (division and multiplication should be done first if there is no brackets where +,- exist)

I hope that clears it a bit!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"There's a whole heap of stuff on this and the answer is that the equation is deliberately imprecise to allow both interpretations. So there is no "wrong" answer.

If the equation is written like this

8

------

2(2+2)

then the whole of the bit below the line is effectively in brackets. And the answer is 1

If it's

8 (2+2)

-

2

Then the (2+2) is no longer below the line and the answer is 16.

So everyone is right. Especially whoever said 42.

G"

(b)(u)(l)(l)(s)(h)(i)(t)

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I would say 4 4 there is no sign between 8/2 and (2+2) . Will they need to multiply or what?

Solve the bracket.

Then multiply it by whatever is outside the bracket.

The bracket indicates that multiplication will take place IF there is something to multiply it by.

Must also learn to read entire thread

Ermm brackets doesn’t mean that you need to multiply! brackets are a set of marks, like parentheses, that are used to enclose a group of terms and in this case sum of two numbers needs prioritising so whatever sign you put outside & and in front of the bracket whether +,-, x, / effect the end result.

If the question was 8/2x(2+2)=16 if the question was 8/2/(2+2) = 1 or could be 8/2+(2+2) = 8 or 8/2-(2+2)=0 (division and multiplication should be done first if there is no brackets where +,- exist)

I hope that clears it a bit! "

NO it doesn't.

Where brackets are used , that should be calculated first.

If there is a number before the bracket - the answer to the bracket is multiplied by what ever is outside the bracket.

There is NO need for an x between a number and the bracket.

e.g. 2(3+3) means ... work out the bracket and multiply by 2.

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule"

Does anyone, these days, know how to use a slide rule? I used to design buildings with one. My daughter took one to school years ago on a show and tell. Even the teacher thought it was magic!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Look guys, I only got a B in my maths GCSE.

That's a good grade

A fluke apparently

If it's any consolation I can't use a slide rule

Does anyone, these days, know how to use a slide rule? I used to design buildings with one. My daughter took one to school years ago on a show and tell. Even the teacher thought it was magic! "

I used my dad's log books.... logarithms..... bliss.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"There's a whole heap of stuff on this and the answer is that the equation is deliberately imprecise to allow both interpretations. So there is no "wrong" answer.

If the equation is written like this

8

------

2(2+2)

then the whole of the bit below the line is effectively in brackets. And the answer is 1

If it's

8 (2+2)

-

2

Then the (2+2) is no longer below the line and the answer is 16.

So everyone is right. Especially whoever said 42.

G

(b)(u)(l)(l)(s)(h)(i)(t)"

^^^Granny knows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say I don’t care what the answer is, it’s not gonna supply me with coffee, bacon, or hot chicks, right now.

What if a correct answer guaranteed you sex with me? Would you break out the abacus? "

The answer is a number.

Factually correct.

So, about this guaranteed sex thing…………

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Answer me this ....

22*2/11+5-6

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By *eptimiusMan
over a year ago

East

Its very simple using bidmas

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Answer me this ....

22*2/11+5-6"

3 ??

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By *am101aMan
over a year ago

swad

id say 16 too

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London

"Answer me this ....

22*2/11+5-6"

Do you mean

22 * 2 + 5 - 6

------

11

Or

22 * 2

------

11+5-6

Or

22 * 2 -6

-----

11+ 5

Or something else? Please clarify

G

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My maths 'O' level tells me 16. I knew it would come in handy one day. I wonder if it can get me a shag?

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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago

London


""Answer me this ....

22*2/11+5-6"

Do you mean

22 * 2 + 5 - 6

------

11

Or

22 * 2

------

11+5-6

Or

22 * 2 -6

-----

11+ 5

Or something else? Please clarify

G"

(Ps forum formatting is not my friend....)

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