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"His show at the Fringe cancelled after some complaints last night. Anyone who buys a ticket knows what to expect. Should comedians be sensored?" What were the complaints? | |||
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"His show at the Fringe cancelled after some complaints last night. Anyone who buys a ticket knows what to expect. Should comedians be sensored? What were the complaints?" Not entirely sure but thr Fringe organisers decided to cancel his show this evening. | |||
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"I think the time has come to possibly accept that some subjects are just not acceptable to make jokes about . Certainly when I went to see Alan Delaney a few years back, his jokes were in very poor taste indeed. " Where do you draw the line though. If you choose to go and see someone like that the chances are you are in for some pretty edgy stuff. You can always exercise your right not to listen. | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " Totally agree | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " Well said! Sick to death of this whole "cancel" culture. | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " Don’t like it then don’t go! | |||
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"I think the time has come to possibly accept that some subjects are just not acceptable to make jokes about . Certainly when I went to see Alan Delaney a few years back, his jokes were in very poor taste indeed. " If you mean Gary Delaney, then the main problem wasn't his act, it was your lack of research before going. He makes no secret that most of his act is pretty much right on the line of 'Good Taste' and at some point he'll find the spot where he crosses it...most of the audience are there because they don't want the total fucking MOR tedium of Michael Macintyre or Miranda Hart- the pushing of the limit is part of the thrill. I've seen him several times now, pretty much every time he's had me in pain from laughing, if this isn't your thing then maybe a box set of Keeping up appearances would have been a better choice? | |||
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"His show at the Fringe cancelled after some complaints last night. Anyone who buys a ticket knows what to expect. Should comedians be sensored?" It’s free speech. If I pay to see Jimmy Carr for example then I expect some edgy stuff. Frankie Boyle has pushed things as well so you know what to expect before buying tickets | |||
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"Unfunny people cancel funny man. Where will it all end?" It ends with these 'entitled' ones - who sadly genuinely, plus mistakenly, believe that everything they don't like must be banned yet everything they do like to be paid for by others - eventually all turning on each other. | |||
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"I think the time has come to possibly accept that some subjects are just not acceptable to make jokes about . Certainly when I went to see Alan Delaney a few years back, his jokes were in very poor taste indeed. " There in lays the problem. Who decides when the line has been crossed and what happens if those making the decision have zero sense of humour and find every subject offensive? Suddenly we are not allowed to laugh at anything incase the subject may offend someone no matter how tame the joke. | |||
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"As most tv programmes and films come with trigger warnings now, it’s not ideal but maybe a disclaimer / warning about the show in advance might help. Let people know it could be offensive then it’s at their discretion if they attend. Cancelling people / shows because you don’t like it and offends you can’t be right in a free society, can it? The only legitimate reason I can see for cancelling would be if illegal content was included (hate speech etc) Having said that I don’t know the reasons why this particular show was cancelled so maybe it did cross legal lines? " Ok done some Googling, racist language and got his cock out to an audience member… okaaaayyy .. | |||
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"His show at the Fringe cancelled after some complaints last night. Anyone who buys a ticket knows what to expect. Should comedians be sensored?" The main problem with Sadowitz's show is that he'd exposed his penis live on stage in the previous show. This caused the venue, after a spate of complaints, to act. That's a difficult one as it does fall into the area of illegality if someone is offended by someone else's nudity. Again, as many are saying, the ONLY solution to this is to have warnings before you purchase tickets and/or enter the venue. But does this entail including full frontal nudity? Seems it does. But this is compounded by many venues being run by local Councils and their Councillors shall we say - relish - the ability to control things. Especially in the more politically left leaning areas (but by NO mean exclusive) so there maybe does need to be a 'compromise' of some kind - same as the cinemas had to do leading to the formation of the BBFC. Simple banning though helps no one - except the banned artist to get more hits and sell more dvd's etc... | |||
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"I guess some people here would think Bernard Manning's humour was acceptable" Yes . In the 80s it was . That's the point .. That's old news and old humour we've moved on | |||
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"I think the time has come to possibly accept that some subjects are just not acceptable to make jokes about . Certainly when I went to see Alan Delaney a few years back, his jokes were in very poor taste indeed. Where do you draw the line though. If you choose to go and see someone like that the chances are you are in for some pretty edgy stuff. You can always exercise your right not to listen." So you don't know what the complaints were bit think he's the victim? | |||
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"His show at the Fringe cancelled after some complaints last night. Anyone who buys a ticket knows what to expect. Should comedians be sensored? The main problem with Sadowitz's show is that he'd exposed his penis live on stage in the previous show. This caused the venue, after a spate of complaints, to act. That's a difficult one as it does fall into the area of illegality if someone is offended by someone else's nudity. Again, as many are saying, the ONLY solution to this is to have warnings before you purchase tickets and/or enter the venue. But does this entail including full frontal nudity? Seems it does. But this is compounded by many venues being run by local Councils and their Councillors shall we say - relish - the ability to control things. Especially in the more politically left leaning areas (but by NO mean exclusive) so there maybe does need to be a 'compromise' of some kind - same as the cinemas had to do leading to the formation of the BBFC. Simple banning though helps no one - except the banned artist to get more hits and sell more dvd's etc... " I think several of the people commenting on this thread had no idea whst actually happened. It was the venue not the fringe thst cancelled the shows. And it wasn't because of a joke it was because of racist terms and getting his dick out. And the way it is being described, it appears he exposed himself to one specific audience member which is no way okay | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker." You don’t understand…it’s VERY IMPORTANT that comedians are allowed to tell racist jokes. Otherwise, what comedy gigs would the racists be able to go to? They’d have to entertain themselves! | |||
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"Nah. They should be cancelling the book burning scum who get offended by everything. " Book burning scum? | |||
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"Nah. They should be cancelling the book burning scum who get offended by everything. " The folk who burned JK.Rowling's books? | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " | |||
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"Maybe out of protest all comics should tell jokes in poor taste. Try running a comedy festival when all the acts have been cancelled by the second night." If people were banned for 'poor taste' there'd be no one on this forum. It'd serve discussions like this if people read what is legal and what is not. If they actually knew which groups were protected by law..... AND stop calling every mention of a non white racist..... it simply isn't. Don't even respond to this comment unless you have found a robust definition of racism. | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker." It is never okay for anyone to be racist. I haven't seen anyone say that it's okay. | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker. It is never okay for anyone to be racist. I haven't seen anyone say that it's okay. " There are plenty of people here saying he should be able to say whatever he likes in the name of ‘free speech’. That includes racism, it doesn’t need to be explicitly stated. If someone is happy for people to be given a platform to express racism in the name of ‘free speech’, that person is condoning racism. Which makes that person a racist, regardless of whether they realise the fact, or are comfortable with it. | |||
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"No one's freedom of speech is violated by a venue deciding they don't want to host a comedian. The comedian is still free to say what they want, and the venue is free to decide if someone is a fit for them or not, it's quite simple. Most people moaning about cancel culture are just moaning because someone doesn't want to hear their (usually offensive) views. " I agree, it is really quite something how many people only have a VERY limited understanding on how freedom of speech works. It is only for certain views and those views cannot be challenged, at least in their deluded understanding. (For clarity I am talking about "Daily Fail Readers" & the Anti-Woke) | |||
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"The venue have now said this: “Due to numerous complaints, we became immediately aware of content that was considered, among other things, extreme in its racism, sexism, homophobia and misogyny,” they said. “We will not associate with content which attacks people’s dignity and the language used on stage was, in our view, completely unacceptable.” They've not said he can't say anything, just denied him a stage. What's interesting is that on Friday morning Jerry Sadowitz was a largely forgotten comedic side note. Now people (including on this thread) are defending his right to say what he wants despite not even being aware of what he said and he's on countless news websites. What is it they say about no publicity being bad publicity... " It is almost like he has experienced the exact opposite of being cancelled... | |||
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"I just read that news. I haven't watched his comedy before. The news article didn't say which of his jokes caused this. Does anyone know why?" Whipped out his willy and racial term. Apparently. | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker. It is never okay for anyone to be racist. I haven't seen anyone say that it's okay. There are plenty of people here saying he should be able to say whatever he likes in the name of ‘free speech’. That includes racism, it doesn’t need to be explicitly stated. If someone is happy for people to be given a platform to express racism in the name of ‘free speech’, that person is condoning racism. Which makes that person a racist, regardless of whether they realise the fact, or are comfortable with it. " No one has said that at all. Free speech yes but within the law. | |||
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"I just read that news. I haven't watched his comedy before. The news article didn't say which of his jokes caused this. Does anyone know why?" I read as many news articles as I could so that is all I know. There were complaints. It doesn't mean he was racist or indecent but complaints were made and the management decided to cancel him. There 's no mention of what was said. | |||
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"I just read that news. I haven't watched his comedy before. The news article didn't say which of his jokes caused this. Does anyone know why? I read as many news articles as I could so that is all I know. There were complaints. It doesn't mean he was racist or indecent but complaints were made and the management decided to cancel him. There 's no mention of what was said. " That's what I felt too. I read so many articles. Nothing clearly saying what the complaints were about. | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker." Jimmy Carr making the Holocaust joke doesn't mean he supported Holocaust. A comedian making racist jokes doesn't mean the person is racist. Comedy is a safe space for themselves to listen to the ironies of life. If you don't like a comedy, do not buy a ticket. Seriously, how hard is that? Would you be happy if religious nutters made a company to cancel a talk about theory of evolution because they feel offended by it? | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker. Jimmy Carr making the Holocaust joke doesn't mean he supported Holocaust. A comedian making racist jokes doesn't mean the person is racist. Comedy is a safe space for themselves to listen to the ironies of life. If you don't like a comedy, do not buy a ticket. Seriously, how hard is that? Would you be happy if religious nutters made a company to cancel a talk about theory of evolution because they feel offended by it? " I think calling someone a 'p###' is racist, unless you can think of a nuance where it isn't? | |||
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"The venue have now said this: “Due to numerous complaints, we became immediately aware of content that was considered, among other things, extreme in its racism, sexism, homophobia and misogyny,” they said. “We will not associate with content which attacks people’s dignity and the language used on stage was, in our view, completely unacceptable.” They've not said he can't say anything, just denied him a stage. What's interesting is that on Friday morning Jerry Sadowitz was a largely forgotten comedic side note. Now people (including on this thread) are defending his right to say what he wants despite not even being aware of what he said and he's on countless news websites. What is it they say about no publicity being bad publicity... " He's pretty well known - and loved - on the comedy circuit, and has been for years. He's influenced such people as Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle. Not everyone on the thread is unaware of the content of his act, which is aptly name "Not for Anyone" by the way. If you go to see him you know what to expect. If you don't know who he is, you read the warnings given out at the time of booking/buying your ticket. No, not all of his jokes are funny. And it ain't the first time he's got his cock out on stage, either. But they are jokes! I have an invisible disability, am of Irish descent & ginger. I'm not remotely affronted by jokes taking the piss out of people like me, and in many instances will belly laugh along with such comedians, as I also have a warped sense of humour. This does not make me racist or likely to abuse wheelchair users in the street. Yes, some of his audience MAY be racist. But some folk watching Britain's Got Talent may also be racist. I, along with the swathes of comedians/writers that have publicly come out to support him, abhor such censorship. You don't like him or his humour? Don't pay to see him. Simple. | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material)." Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? | |||
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"Interesting how many people are arguing that it is ok for comedians to be racist... Cos thats what Sadowitz got his show cancelled for. He was Racist, plain and simple. Good riddance to the fucker. Jimmy Carr making the Holocaust joke doesn't mean he supported Holocaust. A comedian making racist jokes doesn't mean the person is racist. Comedy is a safe space for themselves to listen to the ironies of life. If you don't like a comedy, do not buy a ticket. Seriously, how hard is that? Would you be happy if religious nutters made a company to cancel a talk about theory of evolution because they feel offended by it? I think calling someone a 'p###' is racist, unless you can think of a nuance where it isn't? " It was not about nuance. Jimmy Carr's joke didn't have any nuance. If these comedians shouted the same stuff in Hyde Park, it's a legal offense because no one signed up for it. It's just like how it's ok to stand naked like you do in fab but not on your Facebook profile. People logging in here signed up for it. People on Facebook didn't. From the moral view point of outsiders, swinging is morally wrong thing to do. It they put pressure on the web service provider to stop hosting fab, will you be happy? | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay?" Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... " The site (images only visible to people who create a profile and choose to log in) carries warnings about adult content. Unless the comedy show also carried exactly the same warnings and it was made clear that he might wave his penis in your face, I don't think it's fair to compare a comedy show with a swinger's site. | |||
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"The venue have now said this: “Due to numerous complaints, we became immediately aware of content that was considered, among other things, extreme in its racism, sexism, homophobia and misogyny,” they said. “We will not associate with content which attacks people’s dignity and the language used on stage was, in our view, completely unacceptable.” They've not said he can't say anything, just denied him a stage. What's interesting is that on Friday morning Jerry Sadowitz was a largely forgotten comedic side note. Now people (including on this thread) are defending his right to say what he wants despite not even being aware of what he said and he's on countless news websites. What is it they say about no publicity being bad publicity... He's pretty well known - and loved - on the comedy circuit, and has been for years. He's influenced such people as Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle. Not everyone on the thread is unaware of the content of his act, which is aptly name "Not for Anyone" by the way. If you go to see him you know what to expect. If you don't know who he is, you read the warnings given out at the time of booking/buying your ticket. No, not all of his jokes are funny. And it ain't the first time he's got his cock out on stage, either. But they are jokes! I have an invisible disability, am of Irish descent & ginger. I'm not remotely affronted by jokes taking the piss out of people like me, and in many instances will belly laugh along with such comedians, as I also have a warped sense of humour. This does not make me racist or likely to abuse wheelchair users in the street. Yes, some of his audience MAY be racist. But some folk watching Britain's Got Talent may also be racist. I, along with the swathes of comedians/writers that have publicly come out to support him, abhor such censorship. You don't like him or his humour? Don't pay to see him. Simple." I tend to agree. Too many are "cancelled" because they aren't this week's flavour. Once we start censoring things in case some may be offended... Its a very slippery slope where that ends. Careful what you wish for. | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... " Exactly, granny! But you know what? I'll never complain about some of the graphic pics on here because guess what? I choose to log in. And if I came across it by accident & innocently thought folk wouldn't have live action videos or cum shot photos that offended me, I'd just not log in again. Because some folk like them. Simple. | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... The site (images only visible to people who create a profile and choose to log in) carries warnings about adult content. Unless the comedy show also carried exactly the same warnings and it was made clear that he might wave his penis in your face, I don't think it's fair to compare a comedy show with a swinger's site. " Were there any warnings before his show ? | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... The site (images only visible to people who create a profile and choose to log in) carries warnings about adult content. Unless the comedy show also carried exactly the same warnings and it was made clear that he might wave his penis in your face, I don't think it's fair to compare a comedy show with a swinger's site. Were there any warnings before his show ?" I don't know, that's what I'm asking. I said the penis thing is unacceptable UNLESS clear warnings were on the publicity AND it was made clear that the nudity might be right in your face. There's a huge difference between nudity on stage, at a distance vs right in your face or even touching you? | |||
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"BTW..... Im not fighting his corner. I am trying to find out. He said......... His show was entitled Jerry Sadowitz: Not for Anyone and carried a warning that it contained “strong language and themes some may find distressing”." That does not warn of nudity in your face, does it? | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... The site (images only visible to people who create a profile and choose to log in) carries warnings about adult content. Unless the comedy show also carried exactly the same warnings and it was made clear that he might wave his penis in your face, I don't think it's fair to compare a comedy show with a swinger's site. Were there any warnings before his show ?" I believe there were, Granny. There usually are. I don't know the wording of them though. | |||
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"BTW..... Im not fighting his corner. I am trying to find out. He said......... His show was entitled Jerry Sadowitz: Not for Anyone and carried a warning that it contained “strong language and themes some may find distressing”. That does not warn of nudity in your face, does it?" That was the title of his show. Im wondering if the venue owners even knew of the content. If not ...... they are as culpable. | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... The site (images only visible to people who create a profile and choose to log in) carries warnings about adult content. Unless the comedy show also carried exactly the same warnings and it was made clear that he might wave his penis in your face, I don't think it's fair to compare a comedy show with a swinger's site. Were there any warnings before his show ? I believe there were, Granny. There usually are. I don't know the wording of them though. " Me neither. | |||
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"BTW..... Im not fighting his corner. I am trying to find out. He said......... His show was entitled Jerry Sadowitz: Not for Anyone and carried a warning that it contained “strong language and themes some may find distressing”. That does not warn of nudity in your face, does it?" To be fair, no it doesn't. I guess I'm assuming that punters would research shows before coughing up for a ticket (if they weren't already aware of his brand of comedy) x | |||
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"BTW..... Im not fighting his corner. I am trying to find out. He said......... His show was entitled Jerry Sadowitz: Not for Anyone and carried a warning that it contained “strong language and themes some may find distressing”. That does not warn of nudity in your face, does it?" Naked sunbathing is legal in UK. People don't have to put warning signs all the time. I bet children didn't go to the show and the warning mentioned above is sufficiently enough. | |||
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"BTW..... Im not fighting his corner. I am trying to find out. He said......... His show was entitled Jerry Sadowitz: Not for Anyone and carried a warning that it contained “strong language and themes some may find distressing”. That does not warn of nudity in your face, does it? Naked sunbathing is legal in UK. People don't have to put warning signs all the time. I bet children didn't go to the show and the warning mentioned above is sufficiently enough." I actually don't have an issue with a guy whipping his penis out on stage. However, lots of people wouldn't want to see it and being nude at a distance is completely different to sticking it in someone's face, isn't it? Me sunbathing topless is not the same as me shoving my boobs in someone's face. Nudity in public is legal unless you are "causing distress"... | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand." True but I was more talking about cancel culture. There’s a lot of celebrities they’ve tried to cancel but it hasn’t worked. | |||
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"Allegedly he exposed his penis (presumably unsolicited) to a female audience member. Irrespective of the rest of the content of his show, that alone should be enough to "cancel" him. If I go to watch a comedian, I don't expect for something like that to happen (unless nudity in the face of audience members is specifically warned about in the publicity material). Yes, and again people are ignoring this, at best it's a complete lack of understanding of consent, at worst crosses the theshold of indecent exposure as its deliberately designed to cause upset. How can anyone think this is okay? Which begs the question about profile pics on here.... " Why? Are pictures of body parts on someone’s profile (which I guess we agree to to an extent based on the fact it’s not a breach of site rules) the same as someone exposing themselves to someone? This is genuine by the way * | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand." Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales " Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes .. Yes probably not acceptable in 2022 but I liked him .. So I must be such an awful human being | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales " They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. | |||
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"No, the shows shouldn't be cancelled because a small tiny minority of people don't know either what to expect or get offended by the most stupid thing. You hear worse in the supermarkets some days! Anyone that takes major offence to a comedian with a show aimed at the over 18's should probably rethink their show choice and go watch Peppa Pig instead. " You see men getting their penis out and waving it in women's faces in the supermarket?! Where the heck do you go shopping?? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act." Of course it's subjective! That's the whole point of the replies on here. If you don't find such material funny, don't pay to see him. Simple as that. And if my enjoying politically incorrect jokes makes you think less of me? I can live with that | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. " Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes .. Yes probably not acceptable in 2022 but I liked him .. So I must be such an awful human being " Interesting projection of my comments there... But I'm happy to hear more about how "most sensible people" appreciate a racist joke is just a joke? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act." I have heard of cancer patients enjoying jokes about cancer because it helps them cope with the situation. Maybe you people who hold the flag of moral supremacy should treat people as adults and let them handle it themselves. Yeah if you think someone who laughs at edgy jokes is a bad person, keep thinking. No one cares for your ignorance. | |||
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"You see men getting their penis out and waving it in women's faces in the supermarket?! Where the heck do you go shopping?? Lidl." I can't decide whether that makes me want to shop there more, or less Less, I think | |||
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"You see men getting their penis out and waving it in women's faces in the supermarket?! Where the heck do you go shopping?? Lidl." If you go on a Thursday it's xxxl day. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. Of course it's subjective! That's the whole point of the replies on here. If you don't find such material funny, don't pay to see him. Simple as that. And if my enjoying politically incorrect jokes makes you think less of me? I can live with that " | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes .. Yes probably not acceptable in 2022 but I liked him .. So I must be such an awful human being Interesting projection of my comments there... But I'm happy to hear more about how "most sensible people" appreciate a racist joke is just a joke?" Just like making jokes about Gods which offend religious people is just a joke. If you say it's ok for jokes to offend one person but not ok for jokes to offend other person, isn't thay hypocritical? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act." Not really for you to judge what others find funny though is it? Or anyone else. Thankfully. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it." He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes .. Yes probably not acceptable in 2022 but I liked him .. So I must be such an awful human being Interesting projection of my comments there... But I'm happy to hear more about how "most sensible people" appreciate a racist joke is just a joke?" Where did I say racist jokes were funny please ?? | |||
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"No, the shows shouldn't be cancelled because a small tiny minority of people don't know either what to expect or get offended by the most stupid thing. You hear worse in the supermarkets some days! Anyone that takes major offence to a comedian with a show aimed at the over 18's should probably rethink their show choice and go watch Peppa Pig instead. You see men getting their penis out and waving it in women's faces in the supermarket?! Where the heck do you go shopping?? " I can't say or everyone will want to go..... | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! " Sick to death? sounds like you are offended. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. I have heard of cancer patients enjoying jokes about cancer because it helps them cope with the situation. Maybe you people who hold the flag of moral supremacy should treat people as adults and let them handle it themselves. Yeah if you think someone who laughs at edgy jokes is a bad person, keep thinking. No one cares for your ignorance." | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes .. Yes probably not acceptable in 2022 but I liked him .. So I must be such an awful human being Interesting projection of my comments there... But I'm happy to hear more about how "most sensible people" appreciate a racist joke is just a joke? Where did I say racist jokes were funny please ??" When you said this "Chubby Brown was funny sorry .. Most sensible people know its jokes " Or did I misread it? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. Not really for you to judge what others find funny though is it? Or anyone else. Thankfully. " Funny, I could have sworn I just said exactly that. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! Sick to death? sounds like you are offended." Oh I am, truly. But guess what? Much as I wished I didn't have to read your comments, I accept your right to your opinion. Just as, in most cases, I tend to ignore what you write on forums. In this case, I read you. My bad. Should have followed my own advice. See? Everyone's happy? | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. " Exactly! Xx | |||
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""We don't apologize for a joke. We are comics. We are here to make you laugh. If you don't get it, then don't watch us." - Joan Rivers Ms Rivers was right. There should be NO censorship or apology in comedy. Ever. By all means have a guide system - bit like 18 cert or 15 cert or a "Traffic Light" system where RED is approach with extreme caution for certain acts. But other than that, no, comedians should have free reign on stage in what is purely an act. " Twaddle you can't hide behind "it's a joke" for being obscene, racist or purely offensive and buying a ticket for a live show by a comic does not give them immunity to say ANYTHING they want too. | |||
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"I think the time has come to possibly accept that some subjects are just not acceptable to make jokes about . Certainly when I went to see Alan Delaney a few years back, his jokes were in very poor taste indeed. If you mean Gary Delaney, then the main problem wasn't his act, it was your lack of research before going. He makes no secret that most of his act is pretty much right on the line of 'Good Taste' and at some point he'll find the spot where he crosses it...most of the audience are there because they don't want the total fucking MOR tedium of Michael Macintyre or Miranda Hart- the pushing of the limit is part of the thrill. I've seen him several times now, pretty much every time he's had me in pain from laughing, if this isn't your thing then maybe a box set of Keeping up appearances would have been a better choice? " | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. Not really for you to judge what others find funny though is it? Or anyone else. Thankfully. Thank the lord for that!! " Nora , don't bring the Lord into it for Christ's sake! That'll be the next thing to cause offence, oh shit I said Christ too! | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. Not really for you to judge what others find funny though is it? Or anyone else. Thankfully. Funny, I could have sworn I just said exactly that." Then we have an accord | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. Not really for you to judge what others find funny though is it? Or anyone else. Thankfully. Thank the lord for that!! Nora , don't bring the Lord into it for Christ's sake! That'll be the next thing to cause offence, oh shit I said Christ too! " . I’m just here for the laughs | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais " He even explained this in his latest stand up. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. I have heard of cancer patients enjoying jokes about cancer because it helps them cope with the situation. Maybe you people who hold the flag of moral supremacy should treat people as adults and let them handle it themselves. Yeah if you think someone who laughs at edgy jokes is a bad person, keep thinking. No one cares for your ignorance. Being a cancer patient, fuck off unless you have been through it. I have not been through it. But I know of people who have been through it. Some actually enjoy these jokes as a way to get through it. My point is, you don't have to take offense on behalf of other people. No one asked you too. We are all adults here. You just have to mind your own business and let the adults decide what they want to watch and what they want to laugh at. If we had to shut down everything that offends people, we wouldn't be teaching science in schools. I think people using black humour as a coping strategy is very different to people joking about cancer though?" Joking about cancer is a type of dark humour and that's the kind of jokes I talked about. What's your type of dark humour? | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up." Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well " Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. " I think it does to be honest. Most forum folk won’t even comment on these type of threads. I’ve noticed that recently. Says a lot to me. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. I have heard of cancer patients enjoying jokes about cancer because it helps them cope with the situation. Maybe you people who hold the flag of moral supremacy should treat people as adults and let them handle it themselves. Yeah if you think someone who laughs at edgy jokes is a bad person, keep thinking. No one cares for your ignorance. Being a cancer patient, fuck off unless you have been through it. I have not been through it. But I know of people who have been through it. Some actually enjoy these jokes as a way to get through it. My point is, you don't have to take offense on behalf of other people. No one asked you too. We are all adults here. You just have to mind your own business and let the adults decide what they want to watch and what they want to laugh at. If we had to shut down everything that offends people, we wouldn't be teaching science in schools. So your point is nothing to do with what I said then? No. My point is do not take offense on behalf of others. People watch comedy for so many reasons. It's not for you to judge them. Jimmy Carr has made jokes on r*pe and I have seen all the women in the audience erupt with laughter. All these women must be misogynists right? Just like that, some cancer patients even enjoy the jokes about cancer. Plenty of people use dark humour as a coping mechanism. If you don't have the ability to understand them, the least you could do is to mind your business instead of judging others without being on their shoes." So nothing to do with what I said then, to do with what you THINK I said. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. " Indeed. Think I'm gonna chill with a cold beer and watch some Ricky Gervais | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up." Jimmy Carr too had an explanation in the beginning about how comedy works in his latest Netflix show. Hope more people listen to it. | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. " All the people that weren't born from a Kinder Egg get it completely, unfortunately not all were so lucky it seems | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. I have heard of cancer patients enjoying jokes about cancer because it helps them cope with the situation. Maybe you people who hold the flag of moral supremacy should treat people as adults and let them handle it themselves. Yeah if you think someone who laughs at edgy jokes is a bad person, keep thinking. No one cares for your ignorance. Being a cancer patient, fuck off unless you have been through it. I have not been through it. But I know of people who have been through it. Some actually enjoy these jokes as a way to get through it. My point is, you don't have to take offense on behalf of other people. No one asked you too. We are all adults here. You just have to mind your own business and let the adults decide what they want to watch and what they want to laugh at. If we had to shut down everything that offends people, we wouldn't be teaching science in schools. So your point is nothing to do with what I said then? No. My point is do not take offense on behalf of others. People watch comedy for so many reasons. It's not for you to judge them. Jimmy Carr has made jokes on r*pe and I have seen all the women in the audience erupt with laughter. All these women must be misogynists right? Just like that, some cancer patients even enjoy the jokes about cancer. Plenty of people use dark humour as a coping mechanism. If you don't have the ability to understand them, the least you could do is to mind your business instead of judging others without being on their shoes. So nothing to do with what I said then, to do with what you THINK I said." This is exactly what you said: "That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny." It's not really hard to understand my reply. | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face " Waitrose, it's rampant. The middle class ladies love it apparently. | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face I seen a woman have a shit in the fruit and veg isle." Blinking heck | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face Waitrose, it's rampant. The middle class ladies love it apparently. " Nora is this true? | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face Come with me late night shopping and I'll show you the dark secrets to the trade ha ha That’s not just a penis it’s an M&S penis…" A Percy Penis? Are those vegan? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act." The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face I seen a woman have a shit in the fruit and veg isle." I think I’ve finally found something that would offend me! . Christ! | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face Come with me late night shopping and I'll show you the dark secrets to the trade ha ha That’s not just a penis it’s an M&S penis…" Of course, the cheaper alternatives are never as succulent | |||
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"I'm still waiting to hear which supermarket shop includes willy waving to the face Waitrose, it's rampant. The middle class ladies love it apparently. Nora is this true? " | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. " But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... | |||
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"This debate reminds me of my childhood experience. Caste is a sensitive topic in India. There are numerous castes. I had a group of 6 friends belonging to 4 different castes. We actually found one rhyming expletive word for each caste and attach it to the caste name and use it as a funny insult at each other. If people outside our friends group listened to the conversation, it would have lead to major riots in the town But for us, it was just our way of showing the middle finger to the caste system. We are all still close friends and use the same words once in awhile and have a good laugh. Just an example to show how humour is subjective and it's wrong to judge people for the kind of jokes they make." He said judging people for what they find acceptable. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs..." Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! | |||
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"This debate reminds me of my childhood experience. Caste is a sensitive topic in India. There are numerous castes. I had a group of 6 friends belonging to 4 different castes. We actually found one rhyming expletive word for each caste and attach it to the caste name and use it as a funny insult at each other. If people outside our friends group listened to the conversation, it would have lead to major riots in the town But for us, it was just our way of showing the middle finger to the caste system. We are all still close friends and use the same words once in awhile and have a good laugh. Just an example to show how humour is subjective and it's wrong to judge people for the kind of jokes they make." Is there a difference between an "in" joke between friends and something said in a wider context? Mr KC and I rip the shit out of each other (in humour), as do my fellow disabled wheelchair basketball teammates but we wouldn't include other people in our humour because they're not "in" on it. I hope that makes sense? | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! " And you do not see the difference between the two? | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. I think it does to be honest. Most forum folk won’t even comment on these type of threads. I’ve noticed that recently. Says a lot to me. " Hear, hear Nora! I'll own up now to pissing myself laughing at Jimmy Carr's r@pe jokes; finding Chris Rock's joke about Jada Pinket mildly amusing (mainly because she's so far up her own arse) and having a massive crush on Adam Hills - especially when he takes the piss out of his own disability. If certain folk think that makes me persona non grata, good! Block/ignore me. Whatever floats their boat. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! " Maybe because Romesh is funny? Can yoo think of an example where a white mam calling an Asian a "p#$%" is funny? Because I can't | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. I think it does to be honest. Most forum folk won’t even comment on these type of threads. I’ve noticed that recently. Says a lot to me. Hear, hear Nora! I'll own up now to pissing myself laughing at Jimmy Carr's r@pe jokes; finding Chris Rock's joke about Jada Pinket mildly amusing (mainly because she's so far up her own arse) and having a massive crush on Adam Hills - especially when he takes the piss out of his own disability. If certain folk think that makes me persona non grata, good! Block/ignore me. Whatever floats their boat. " Agreed. We wouldn’t get on anyway! Block away bitches | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! Maybe because Romesh is funny? Can yoo think of an example where a white mam calling an Asian a "p#$%" is funny? Because I can't " Out of geniune curiosity I'd like to know what the joke was tbf .. Context and all that .. And no I'm not saying its acceptable I'd just like to know what the joke was please | |||
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"No, the shows shouldn't be cancelled because a small tiny minority of people don't know either what to expect or get offended by the most stupid thing. You hear worse in the supermarkets some days! Anyone that takes major offence to a comedian with a show aimed at the over 18's should probably rethink their show choice and go watch Peppa Pig instead. " How DARE you ...... Peppa Pig is a mean little oink ! Rude to her dad n spoilt... She should be cancelled. | |||
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"This debate reminds me of my childhood experience. Caste is a sensitive topic in India. There are numerous castes. I had a group of 6 friends belonging to 4 different castes. We actually found one rhyming expletive word for each caste and attach it to the caste name and use it as a funny insult at each other. If people outside our friends group listened to the conversation, it would have lead to major riots in the town But for us, it was just our way of showing the middle finger to the caste system. We are all still close friends and use the same words once in awhile and have a good laugh. Just an example to show how humour is subjective and it's wrong to judge people for the kind of jokes they make. Is there a difference between an "in" joke between friends and something said in a wider context? Mr KC and I rip the shit out of each other (in humour), as do my fellow disabled wheelchair basketball teammates but we wouldn't include other people in our humour because they're not "in" on it. I hope that makes sense? " When you make jokes in a bigger stage, you sign yourself to join the inner circle by buying a ticket for it. Everyone knows what kind of jokes they make. P.S I actually agree with the argument you made about showing penis to the person on the front row. Depending on the situation, it may actually be bad. | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! Maybe because Romesh is funny? Can yoo think of an example where a white mam calling an Asian a "p#$%" is funny? Because I can't " Plenty, but it's not for me to say on a petty thread like this | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! Maybe because Romesh is funny? Can yoo think of an example where a white mam calling an Asian a "p#$%" is funny? Because I can't Out of geniune curiosity I'd like to know what the joke was tbf .. Context and all that .. And no I'm not saying its acceptable I'd just like to know what the joke was please " We should go in November when he has shows on again to find out | |||
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""politically incorrect comedy is no genre: it's me, and it's been ripped off by loads and loads of comics" - Jerry Sadowitz Maybe it isn’t an act. For the record I don’t think anyone should be cancelled. Chubby Brown made a career of making jokes about people of my race and I wouldn’t even cancel him. I just wouldn’t go to his show. Who has been actually cancelled and had their platform taken away though? Every time people talk about people being cancelled they have either broken the law (in which case deserve the consequences) or they are actually in the limelight more than they were before hand. Or are unfunny relics like Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown who confuses cancel culture with poor ticket sales They ARE unfunny relics, I agree. But many modern comedians can be near the bone AND funny. Comedy, like most things, moves with the times. Just because some people don't find it funny, does not mean they should have that platform removed. I once went to a comedy club in Liverpool & a young comedian - can't remember his name - sang a really funny song called Incubator Baby. Now, as you can imagine, the content was pretty near the knuckle, but he brought the house down. I'm pretty sure no one in the audience thought a poorly newborn was anything to laugh about in real life, but the act was bloody hysterical. Frankie Boyle is brilliant and he has said some horrific things if you think about it. He really is. Some things he's said in his live shows have had me cringing & were not remotely funny. But the majority of his stuff is hilarious. But in the same vein, some of my favourite bands have recorded some shockingly awful tracks. I still love them, I just don't play those tracks. I'm sick to death of people being offended all the time! The good thing about Frankie Boyle is that it is 100% an act and he doesn’t believe what he’s saying. He’ll just say what he has to to get the most laughs. Yes agreed. Same with Ricky Gervais He even explained this in his latest stand up. Indeed . But some still don't get it . Ah well Thankfully most folk on the thread appear to agree that comedians shouldn't be censored. Let's hope that translates to the country as a whole. I think it does to be honest. Most forum folk won’t even comment on these type of threads. I’ve noticed that recently. Says a lot to me. Hear, hear Nora! I'll own up now to pissing myself laughing at Jimmy Carr's r@pe jokes; finding Chris Rock's joke about Jada Pinket mildly amusing (mainly because she's so far up her own arse) and having a massive crush on Adam Hills - especially when he takes the piss out of his own disability. If certain folk think that makes me persona non grata, good! Block/ignore me. Whatever floats their boat. Agreed. We wouldn’t get on anyway! Block away bitches Now where's Rex when you need him to lighten the tone with some anal play jokes " I’ve got him locked up practicing his boings | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! Maybe because Romesh is funny? Can yoo think of an example where a white mam calling an Asian a "p#$%" is funny? Because I can't Out of geniune curiosity I'd like to know what the joke was tbf .. Context and all that .. And no I'm not saying its acceptable I'd just like to know what the joke was please We should go in November when he has shows on again to find out " Totally up for that haha | |||
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"Just a thought for all of those saying "it is funny" or it is "not funny" Comedy is subjective, as such people will hold a lot of different views on what is an isn't funny and being subjective you cannot 100% say something is right or wrong on the matter. That being said I think it says a lot about of person if they find jokes based in rancid bigotry as being funny. Comedy is also not exempt from hate speech laws, or the Equalities act. The crux is not the difference between what someone finds funny and someone doesn't. The crux is about when someone is offended they think that is sufficient to complain about someone else. If it isn't against the law, if it doesn't incite hatred, then it shouldn't be cancelled just because someone didn't like what was said. As I said earlier. It would suit everybody if they tried to learn the law and try to find out what all the isms are. If someone says they prefer the company of men - this is not sexist. But this thread is about a person who DID use racist slurs... Loads of them do, romesh as an example takes the piss out of his own race and himself numerous times on stage and funnily enough NOT ONE person got up and walked out!! And you do not see the difference between the two?" Im not petty enough to take offence to something either comedian says, once I leave the show thats it for me, I wouldn't then sit at home stewing about it for the next week and run off complaining. | |||
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