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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" What's going on is three moron's thought they could out run a ton of enraged abused animal. | |||
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"Brave? More like moronic. Out dated, cruel and barbaric. This sort of thing needs to be stopped. If I am right and I may be wrong, but this was started as running the bulls to the bull ring for the bulll fights. Which is not a fight it’s a glorified slaughter of the most cruel kind. Sticking short spears into a bulls neck so it can no longer raise its head. Then the final blow after an hour or so of torture a guy kills it with a sword. I’m no vegan or vegetarian and have worked in slaughter houses where if I saw any kind of animal abuse it was reported. We live in the 21st century this kind of thing should have gone the way of bear baiting, dog fighting and all the other cruel so called sports. As let’s be honest it’s not a sport as sport means even matched contest. Sorry for the soapbox rant but this kind of comment gets me so angry. I have deleted all the swear word that came out as I do not want to offend. " Don't apologise, you are spot on. Spain is a beautiful country but they still have some barbaric practices where animals are concerned. | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Something tells me that Mr Essex_Tom and his cheeky Chelmsford charm is sitting back with his popcorn reading these replies | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Slowly thinning out the stupid people. Long may it continue. C | |||
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"Brave? More like moronic. Out dated, cruel and barbaric. This sort of thing needs to be stopped. If I am right and I may be wrong, but this was started as running the bulls to the bull ring for the bulll fights. Which is not a fight it’s a glorified slaughter of the most cruel kind. Sticking short spears into a bulls neck so it can no longer raise its head. Then the final blow after an hour or so of torture a guy kills it with a sword. I’m no vegan or vegetarian and have worked in slaughter houses where if I saw any kind of animal abuse it was reported. We live in the 21st century this kind of thing should have gone the way of bear baiting, dog fighting and all the other cruel so called sports. As let’s be honest it’s not a sport as sport means even matched contest. Sorry for the soapbox rant but this kind of comment gets me so angry. I have deleted all the swear word that came out as I do not want to offend. " Don't apologise. Bunch of deranged cunts. Good on the bull | |||
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"It serves them right. Wonder what happened to the bulls afterwards though." Not matter what the bulls get killed | |||
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"Reminds me of my holiday in Valencia a few years back. Went to a little restaurant just a street away from the bull ring. Went a few times and then one night they offered me an off-menu special. Out it came and it was two large meatballs, absolutely delicious. Went the next night and offered the same thing. Realised I'd been eating bulls testicles but they were so tasty. The third night they gave me the special but it was a much smaller dish. More of a starter. Anyway, I devoured them in double quick time. Asked the waiter why they were much smaller this time and he said "Well the bullfighter doesn't always win" " | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Darwin award winners, saving the planet from stupidity and free up resources for people more in need. I hope the bull gets a reward. Cheered me right up this thread | |||
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"After the bull run they are humanely slaughtered and the beef distributed at the festival to the poor " To be fair the bulls did the humane Slaughter? So long pig curry for all? | |||
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"Brave? More like moronic. Out dated, cruel and barbaric. This sort of thing needs to be stopped. If I am right and I may be wrong, but this was started as running the bulls to the bull ring for the bulll fights. Which is not a fight it’s a glorified slaughter of the most cruel kind. Sticking short spears into a bulls neck so it can no longer raise its head. Then the final blow after an hour or so of torture a guy kills it with a sword. I’m no vegan or vegetarian and have worked in slaughter houses where if I saw any kind of animal abuse it was reported. We live in the 21st century this kind of thing should have gone the way of bear baiting, dog fighting and all the other cruel so called sports. As let’s be honest it’s not a sport as sport means even matched contest. Sorry for the soapbox rant but this kind of comment gets me so angry. I have deleted all the swear word that came out as I do not want to offend. " Very well said x | |||
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"I used to work on farms some bulls could be a bit nasty even when you were the one bringing their food every day " Ungrateful gits! | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Well what's happening here is three complete muppets got a very rapidly adminstered dose of karma from what I see | |||
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"How on earth is the bull run barbaric may I ask? There’s a lot of BS been spoken on this forum about spikes and spears put into the bulls. If you don’t actually know what goes on, don’t make BS comments. Bulls get let out and run FREELY down the streets. It is not a bull fight which I think your confusing it with! As someone has said, some of the bulls (not all) are slaughtered humanly and distributed amongst the poor. Why on earth do cultural events like this have to be judged by complete idiots that have no idea about the event. " Cultural, nah it's just a shit event and the three muppets had what was coming to them. The idiot is the one who defends this shit because it's part of culture/history. Things change and get better, this shit needs to end. | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Brave souls? Arse holes more like | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" bull 3 prats 0.. stupid cruel idea of fun,,, torment a bull with pins, needles, sharp sticks,, and stab it with small knives then let it loose and see what happens,, bloody barmy,,, | |||
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"Three "brave" souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" A good start. | |||
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"Who gives a toss..." The bull, definitely! | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? What's going on is three moron's thought they could out run a ton of enraged abused animal." This | |||
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"There are cultural differences and not sure we should impose our values on others... Colonial Britain" No, we should. We should all stand up for things that we feel are wrong, otherwise nothing will ever change or improve. It's nothing to do with Colonial Britain, it's to do with personal morality. | |||
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"There are cultural differences and not sure we should impose our values on others... Colonial Britain" But how can the human race move forward as a species without progression, it's not imposing our views, it's about making our global society a safe place for everyone. So in your view practice's like FGM should go unchallenged because of it being a cultural difference elsewhere right? Child labour, underage marriages and oppression should all remain unchallenged As for the OP, good, deserved everything they got. | |||
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"Reminds me of my holiday in Valencia a few years back. Went to a little restaurant just a street away from the bull ring. Went a few times and then one night they offered me an off-menu special. Out it came and it was two large meatballs, absolutely delicious. Went the next night and offered the same thing. Realised I'd been eating bulls testicles but they were so tasty. The third night they gave me the special but it was a much smaller dish. More of a starter. Anyway, I devoured them in double quick time. Asked the waiter why they were much smaller this time and he said "Well the bullfighter doesn't always win" " | |||
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"After the bull run they are humanely slaughtered and the beef distributed at the festival to the poor " There's nothing humane about causing animals fear and anxiety for people's entertainment before they get slaughtered. Would you like to run down streets surrounded by a baying crowd for fun? And to just pass it off as a cultural difference is bullshit. R*pe, sl*very, p**dophilia and FGM are perfectly normal in some cultures. And I think they're all sick. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty. The silly twats played with fire and got burned | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? What's going on is three moron's thought they could out run a ton of enraged abused animal." Play stupid games, win stupid prizes | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys " They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered " "Fuck those people" 100% this, thank you. | |||
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"Brave? More like moronic. Out dated, cruel and barbaric. This sort of thing needs to be stopped. If I am right and I may be wrong, but this was started as running the bulls to the bull ring for the bulll fights. Which is not a fight it’s a glorified slaughter of the most cruel kind. Sticking short spears into a bulls neck so it can no longer raise its head. Then the final blow after an hour or so of torture a guy kills it with a sword. I’m no vegan or vegetarian and have worked in slaughter houses where if I saw any kind of animal abuse it was reported. We live in the 21st century this kind of thing should have gone the way of bear baiting, dog fighting and all the other cruel so called sports. As let’s be honest it’s not a sport as sport means even matched contest. Sorry for the soapbox rant but this kind of comment gets me so angry. I have deleted all the swear word that came out as I do not want to offend. " Totally agree | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... " Do bulls only gore men ? | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... " Bulls have familys 2? And would still b their fault for being stupid! X | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... " irrelevant though , they made stupid hobby and well bad luck happens ... sure its sad a family member snuffed it but at end of day its not like they didn't know it couldn't happen ... so if your happy for. family member to enjoy this silly hobby then well .. what can you say | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... " They probably should have talked them out of it beforehand then! Or accept that their stupidity cost them! | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck." Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. " Basically, it's all bizarre showing of manly Ness. Personally, I'd prefer a nice chat over a pint | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. " but it does involve d*unken idiots as the common denominator | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... Do bulls only gore men ?" Mayve the women have more sense than to bull run | |||
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"It could be your son, your brother, your father... " If they cared about their families they wouldn't act like idiotic imbeciles | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. " Exactly! X | |||
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"Karma! Hope the bull is OK x" I hope so too | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. Exactly! X" that went right over your head didn't it | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. Exactly! X that went right over your head didn't it " What went right over my head ? The cheese or the burning barrel of tar ? | |||
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"meanwhile in britain cider drinkers routinely hurl themselves off near verticle inclines in the pursuit of a cheese and yet more cider drinkers run around town with balzing barrels of tar balanced on their neck. Neither of those activities is cruel to animals. Exactly! X that went right over your head didn't it What went right over my head ? The cheese or the burning barrel of tar ?" like i said | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered "Fuck those people" 100% this, thank you." Seconded...anyone who partakes or promotes the harming of animals has no place on this earth | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered "Fuck those people" 100% this, thank you. Seconded...anyone who partakes or promotes the harming of animals has no place on this earth" What would you do to them? | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" You spelt ‘brave’ incorrectly: f-o-o-l-I-s-h | |||
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"Karma! Hope the bull is OK x I hope so too " the bull will have been destroyed after ... | |||
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"It's all food at the end of the day.. " That doesn't mean you can be cruel and mean to it. It's a living creature that has feelings, experience pain and fear. Wrong to torment it. | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered "Fuck those people" 100% this, thank you. Seconded...anyone who partakes or promotes the harming of animals has no place on this earth" agreed .. when i first travelled to spain in the 80's i was horrified at the animal cruelty during religous celebrations etc. | |||
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"No sympathy here im afraid " I agree...none at all...such a cruel thing as is Bull fighting | |||
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"It's all food at the end of the day.. That doesn't mean you can be cruel and mean to it. It's a living creature that has feelings, experience pain and fear. Wrong to torment it." humans do it to each other for time innumerable .. what chance do you think lesser animals have compared to humans .... this is something that will never ever be removed from human nature alas . | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Brave souls? Idiots who got what they deserved. Disgraceful type of event which should have been banned years ago. Never mind all the crap about it is tradition. It's cruel. The bull does what any animal does when it is frightened to death, it fights back. Well done to the bull | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!!" I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!!" Maybe they should have thought about their families beforehand. This isn’t the first time people have died taking part and it’s always well publicised. It’s those taking part that owed something to their wives and children but clearly taking part in this abhorrent activity was more important. | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . " I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. | |||
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"Well I guess it's marginally better than throwing a donkey off a church tower." i think you mean goats not donkeys ... in polvorosa that was one of the horrifying things i saw involving animal cruelty in 1980's spain | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. " Just to clarify... are we desensitised to the suffering of the animals or the people? It's not entirely clear at this stage. | |||
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"Well I guess it's marginally better than throwing a donkey off a church tower. i think you mean goats not donkeys ... in polvorosa that was one of the horrifying things i saw involving animal cruelty in 1980's spain " the donkey beating festival was in villanueva | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. Just to clarify... are we desensitised to the suffering of the animals or the people? It's not entirely clear at this stage." I like animals... People however. I'd be OK breaking the news. A family member was stupid and died... Easy. | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. Just to clarify... are we desensitised to the suffering of the animals or the people? It's not entirely clear at this stage." Desensitised to the way people believe they would act in a real life scenario, that is the power of the internet and a keyboard. I do not support bull fighting or cruelty to animals or humans, I understand it is an emotive and cruel ritual, however these messages celebrating the deaths of 3 humans is awful. | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. " Some of us are not emotionally compromised at all and function with logical thought processes devoid of emotive distraction 24/7 . why do we have to pussyfoot around a truth about why someone died. trying to kill animals for no reason whatsoever of any value .. never said it wasn't sad that someone has died but I did say the truth is the truth . Telling a relative a truth in this case of a bull death which was 100% avoidable , why would you not want to know the factual truth of death, they will learn of it at some point .. that is an illogical thought process to me anyway . | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. Just to clarify... are we desensitised to the suffering of the animals or the people? It's not entirely clear at this stage. I like animals... People however. I'd be OK breaking the news. A family member was stupid and died... Easy. " I don't believe you | |||
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"Well I guess it's marginally better than throwing a donkey off a church tower. i think you mean goats not donkeys ... in polvorosa that was one of the horrifying things i saw involving animal cruelty in 1980's spain " Aah yes, the one where they drown the goat in a local fountain if it survives. Sorry, I confused that with the Pero Palo festival in Villanueva de la Vera, where a donkey is dragged through the streets as locals chant and attack the animal with fireworks, cowbells and sharp objects. Still, at least the don't garrotte them like they do to dogs before hanging them from trees. Spain is such a lovely country - such lovely traditions. | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! I would tell them the truth that (insert relative ) died for being stupid and could have totally been avoided if not for their selfish behaviour .. cause and effect is in play. The Emotional card trick doesn't really work with many people .. I have had a relative die from a stupid hobby , yes it was sad they died but it didn't change the reality they were the cause of it and it was selfish behaviour to put themselves into that position to start with ... Equally many humans are very strongly for animals and well what sort of message is that to kids / families if you happily take pleasure in killing an animal that is goaded into acts of violence .all in name of some sport ... one could say dont really posses much humanity to start with for that blasé level of wanton destruction in name of entertainment, as its not a sport so we cant use that term . I doubt you would tell their relatives this at all, unless you are totally devoid of emotional awareness, which I admit is possible. The internet really does desensitise people to reality, whilst at the keyboard. Some of us are not emotionally compromised at all and function with logical thought processes devoid of emotive distraction 24/7 . why do we have to pussyfoot around a truth about why someone died. trying to kill animals for no reason whatsoever of any value .. never said it wasn't sad that someone has died but I did say the truth is the truth . Telling a relative a truth in this case of a bull death which was 100% avoidable , why would you not want to know the factual truth of death, they will learn of it at some point .. that is an illogical thought process to me anyway . " Easy to say this on here but in front of a grieving relative, I think you would find things a little more taxing on your none emotive update. | |||
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"Well I guess it's marginally better than throwing a donkey off a church tower. i think you mean goats not donkeys ... in polvorosa that was one of the horrifying things i saw involving animal cruelty in 1980's spain Aah yes, the one where they drown the goat in a local fountain if it survives. Sorry, I confused that with the Pero Palo festival in Villanueva de la Vera, where a donkey is dragged through the streets as locals chant and attack the animal with fireworks, cowbells and sharp objects. Still, at least the don't garrotte them like they do to dogs before hanging them from trees. Spain is such a lovely country - such lovely traditions." i cant remember which spanish town i witnessed pinata using clay pots packed tight with doves and kittens ... it was grim and made me want to go postal at the time | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" The bulls won - they were faster and stronger. | |||
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"Lots of opinions here and respect to all opinions although mans inhumanity to man is truly shocking. If a tourist, Spanish or Non Spanish gets caught in the holiday atmosphere and wants to be part of the carnival then we celebrate their death. What's going on here guys They put themselves there. Fuck those people. Ain't gonna lose any sleep over it or care about it. I feel for the animals forced into this shit. Also with 8 billion plus people, we're hardly endangered "Fuck those people" 100% this, thank you. Seconded...anyone who partakes or promotes the harming of animals has no place on this earth What would you do to them?" I wouldn't "do" anything to them I dont kill or harm anything for fun...all I said was they have no place on this earth and if they die doing said thing then it's tough shit | |||
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"We are talking about three brave guys here. Without them there would be no festival.." No one on this thread wants the festival | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!!" ----- Sick trolls? Honestly couldn't give two fucks. Why would I be in a position to look their families in the eyes? Even if for some bizarre reason I was I'd not change my position. I don't go looking for it but I'm not afraid of conflict and will stand my ground when I believe in something. Even if it means someone hearing some hard truths. Lack of empathy? No, you have that wrong. I have empathy for the innocent animals and zero for those who take pleasure in torturing them. Anyone inflicting pain on any other (non-consenting ) living being is sick and doesn't deserve my empathy. | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Oh dear, hope the bulls are ok! | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? Oh dear, hope the bulls are ok! " And the mothers who mourn their sons | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? Oh dear, hope the bulls are ok! And the mothers who mourn their sons " Maybe the sons should of thought about their Mothers grief beforehand | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? Oh dear, hope the bulls are ok! And the mothers who mourn their sons Maybe the sons should of thought about their Mothers grief beforehand" Maybe their sons should have thought of them before doing something so idiotic! | |||
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"We are talking about three brave guys here. Without them there would be no festival.. No one on this thread wants the festival" Think this is the bit the OP is missing. | |||
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"Tom is indigionis So heartless " The dead idiots were heartless. | |||
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"Every victim had a family.. Please do not laugh on their graves . They were brave and it did not work out sadly.. " I feel sorry for their families. Seems such an unnecessary waste of life in the support of animal cruelty. If the festival had no live animals, they would not be dead. There are many festivals with floats, statues, symbolic options that could be incorporated to continue tradition & raise money that the festival no doubt does, without risk of injury or animal cruelty. | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? Something tells me that Mr Essex_Tom and his cheeky Chelmsford charm is sitting back with his popcorn reading these replies " Oh now I think you are right | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? The Men who who died had names and families. They leave behind, wives, children and grandkids. Would look into their eyes and tell them that their grandfather deserved a brutal and painful death? No? Then shut the fuck up and think before you type your cowardly bullshit! Yes I agree that the bullfighting should end and that running with the bulls is idiotic. But I take no pleasure at the tragic loss of life and outright condem anyone who does!!! ----- Sick trolls? Honestly couldn't give two fucks. Why would I be in a position to look their families in the eyes? Even if for some bizarre reason I was I'd not change my position. I don't go looking for it but I'm not afraid of conflict and will stand my ground when I believe in something. Even if it means someone hearing some hard truths. Lack of empathy? No, you have that wrong. I have empathy for the innocent animals and zero for those who take pleasure in torturing them. Anyone inflicting pain on any other (non-consenting ) living being is sick and doesn't deserve my empathy. " My sentiments exactly | |||
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"These guys are heroic " These guys are far from heroic and I'm starting to believe that you're a bit of a troll getting kicks out of winding people up. Pretty pathetic really. | |||
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"There are some very sick Trolls on here!!! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you wish violent and painful death on people who do something you disagree with? " I think being indifferent to their death, acknowledging that they were partaking in something sick and not having sympathy which seems to be the common stance on the thred is vastly different to wishing people dead | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys?" Sad to hear but brave is not the words I would use. | |||
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"Three brave souls have been killed during the Bull runs in 24 hours in Spain. What's going on here guys? Sad to hear but brave is not the words I would use. " And what word would you use ? | |||
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"Really ? " I mean, it's a competitive field... | |||
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"Can't believe what I am reading to be honest " is it literally all over the news ? | |||
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"Idiots. You gotta feel for the families but I’m sorry.. Darwin Award …" yep agree even Mr bean wouldn’t be that stupid to mess with a ton of angry bull | |||
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"Can't believe what I am reading to be honest " What's going on here Tom? | |||
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"I think it's fookin' funny! If people are stupid enough to try and out run a pissed off bull then the planet is a better place without them! Stupidity is currently an epidemic and they keep breeding passing on the stupid gene !! " Great until it's your son or brother etc | |||
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"I think it's fookin' funny! If people are stupid enough to try and out run a pissed off bull then the planet is a better place without them! Stupidity is currently an epidemic and they keep breeding passing on the stupid gene !! Great until it's your son or brother etc" Na my sons were raised right, they wouldn’t find animal cruelty entertaining or be this stupid! | |||
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"Karma! Hope the bull is OK x" | |||
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"These guys are heroic These guys are far from heroic and I'm starting to believe that you're a bit of a troll getting kicks out of winding people up. Pretty pathetic really." I agree, I personally think Tom is a bit ofa prick | |||
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"Can't believe what I am reading to be honest is it literally all over the news ?" No, it’s the moo’s | |||
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"... it did not work out sadly.. " Indeed. It worked out equitably. | |||
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"Can't believe what I am reading to be honest " I know what you mean. | |||
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