FabSwingers.com forum: Brainwashed into Shaving

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

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By *phrodite_AdonisCouple
over a year ago

Wouldn’t say brainwashed.

Society has certain beauty expectations which some women feel under pressure to conform to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not conform.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not for all of us , I do it because I like to be tied down there not because anyone or society expects me to. X

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By *EAT..85Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Many youngsters certainly feel pressured to conform to certain beauty regimes. I'm neither young or smooth however

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

I’m a woman and I don’t shave anything apart from my legs.

There is a lot of pressure in magazines etc for women to look a certain why (well there was when I was younger) but I’d like to think times have moved on and folk are more “go with the flow” these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she’s probably right. When I was a young man first experiencing the delights of women then it was the exception rather than the norm for a Brazilian down there let alone a full Hollywood

There was a phase a few years ago that you couldn’t find any hair on a lass for love nor money but now there does seem to be a bit of a revival but I think there’s a lot of pressure from porn and peers .. hair is seen as unsightly and unhygienic in many quarters (which is, of course, mostly complete bobbins)

Bring back the bush!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who cares what she thinks?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

You just have to observe the number of people who claim it's more hygienic to see why women feel pressure. One couple told me that women should have no hair below eye level ...smh

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

Reading

I was chatting to female friend a few weeks back. She is a lot younger than me. She apologised for taking a while replying to messages. Informed that was waxing

. Turned out the reason she was doing. Her youngest when she was wearing a thong had tried pulling a hair from her . So waxed to stop happening. She did also admit. From her friends conversations. If you did not wax , in some form. You were the odd one out if had full bush. So a lot todo with magazines etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism. "

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

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By *asilyled1Man
over a year ago

ogmore valley

I’ve been with women with pubic hair,hairy armpits.doesn’t matter one bit if they’re the right person they’re the right person.I have pubes and don’t shave. Do whatever you want I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got shamed by a friend when I was 14 for not shaving; I have incredibly sensitive skin and shaving leaves me in agony for weeks.

Nowadays; women are considered strange if they have body hair ANYWHERE. Truly? I don’t care. If it’s not meant to be there, why does it grow there? My hair, my body, my choice.

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By *tms1xCouple
over a year ago

Chelmsford

We are firm believers that each to their own! We are both shaven because we like it that way and in our opinion makes for better oral fun.

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By *ormorantMan
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Wonder what her opinion is on men who shave and why..

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

As they say in Frozen... "Let it grow, let it grow..."

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By *rC99Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

Maybe it's down to how each individual woman feels about it.

Though i wouldn't be surprised if the editors of the magazines in the past that maybe pressured women about it were actually men

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

No, not brainwashed I go through stages of trimmed and shaved,purely for my comfort no one else's

Mrs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My male and probably not relevant opinion is yes. And I think because of it, some people prefer to maintain it because of pain and discomfort of regrowth. But it’s definitely the patriarchy. Body hair shouldn’t make anyone more or less desirable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable. "

Personally I think I'd find your body in its natural form most acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable. "

Anti capitalists to the front please.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I got shamed by a friend when I was 14 for not shaving; I have incredibly sensitive skin and shaving leaves me in agony for weeks.

Nowadays; women are considered strange if they have body hair ANYWHERE. Truly? I don’t care. If it’s not meant to be there, why does it grow there? My hair, my body, my choice."

I had a similar thing at about age 13/14. I was at a school athletics meeting and one of the boys on the athletics team asked why my legs weren't shaved...

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By *eneralKenobiMan
over a year ago

North Angus

I shaved mine while d*unk the other day, feels great. Complete pain in the arse though so kudos to those who do it on a daily basis

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Trimmed. There is an expectation that your hair is tackled. Right or wrong? Probably wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brainwashed seems like a strong word, but definitely pressured

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By *ancer36Woman
over a year ago

Stirling

I just don’t like hair - I shave it for that reason alone

No one brainwashed me it’s my body and my choice x

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

I have been shaving for 40yrs but that was my choice alone.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Mr Gillette first advertised his lady part shaver in the 1920s in the era of flappers ...to go with their slinky dresses

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By *iberius61Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

I mean, our bodies are not really natural, either men or women. I literally just got back from the barbers. I shave my face mostly and trim what's not shaved. I trim my chest hair and public hair. Tbh I reckon I trim a greater area of my body than wiminz do...but it's not a competition and no, in spite of being a swimmer and a cyclist I do not shave my legs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people want to shave, or don’t want to shave, then that’s their choice.

It becomes a problem when they push their choice onto everyone else.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Someone realised there's a lot of money to be made from bald pussies.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I do think there's more pressure to conform than we'd care to admit. How many women have opted to wear trousers instead of a skirt because they didn't have time to shave? Though I think with youngsters I work with, there a bit more chilled about it than I was at their age.

I now live in a flux sometimes I'm smooth sometimes I'm not. It very much varies with my mood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I shave/wax everything below my eyebrows.

My choice, no pressure from anyone and I don’t care for the opinions of others.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"I got shamed by a friend when I was 14 for not shaving; I have incredibly sensitive skin and shaving leaves me in agony for weeks.

Nowadays; women are considered strange if they have body hair ANYWHERE. Truly? I don’t care. If it’s not meant to be there, why does it grow there? My hair, my body, my choice.

I had a similar thing at about age 13/14. I was at a school athletics meeting and one of the boys on the athletics team asked why my legs weren't shaved... "

My friend at Secondary school during outdoor games said "Oh, you don't shave your legs".

I had fine, blonde hair on my legs back then, and I went home and shaved it off.

It grew back thick and dark.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable. "

Only the bits on show. There have been fashion trends that people adhered to through for millenia. Since the early 20thC as more and more of our bodies have become visible with xha ging clothes fashion, manufacturers have recognised opportunity and in order to sell their products have sold us the idea that body hair is disgusting, especially on women. Because we're all self-conscious to varying degrees we're generally eager to go along with it. I shave my legs and armpits, pluck my eyebrows and trim my pubic hair because I've been conditioned to. Porn has inadvertantly promoted the fashion for zero pubes because it's easier to see the action without a bountiful bush getting on the way. Penises seem larger when not surrounded by a forest. Hair removal manufacturers brought out new lines for 'sensitive' and 'bikini' areas in response, jumping on the opportunity to sell more of their products.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone realised there's a lot of money to be made from bald pussies."

I should have just typed this ^^

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"
nope I did it long before I knew it was a thing

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

I not thought of it as a consequence of the change in fashion to reveal more of your skin. That's a really good point

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By *lim and louiseCouple
over a year ago

dromore

My preference is a nicely trimmed bush ,not stubble ,and not wild

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everybody should row their own canoe and drive/support each other to do so. That isn’t going to come from buying/using “beauty” products and endorsing”beauty” regimes.

I’m all for supporting the use of make-up and other beauty products to enhance a look/style, but would never advocate the use of make up to “remove Blemishes” or “make yourself look better”. I think it’s an ugly trap.

Putting aside who drove this philosophy/societal belief - many feminists will have us all believe that men at the top of the fashion industry are to blame - I think we all have a responsibility to ourselves and one another to put our fingers up to it and start accepting natural beauty - warts and all - in all its forms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is pressure out there that any hair not on your head is wrong.

I'm a hairy bloke and it would be wrong of me to expect different from ladies. There's nothing wrong with a bit of hair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable. "

Women apparently didn’t start to shave until post WW1 when Gillette started marketing shaving at women, so capitalism

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I see it a lot on here in profiles requesting shaved or trimmed at min, I think it’s odd. I would never ask a woman to shave , it’s like feeling sandpaper.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I'm ancient and I find it staggering when men of my own age expect women to be hairless, one male friend was quite damming of a women we know who was "hairy" when he went to have sex with her. He I add has erectile problems but, blamed her hair for this. Knobhead

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

Personally I think I'd find your body in its natural form most acceptable.

Lol, thank you but I think you'd prefer it at least washed

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

I have to admit I felt I should be shaving all my pubic hair off when my marriage ended and I was back in the dating/casual sex pool.

It wasn't something I'd done until I started seeing someone older than me who loved watching porn. He also showed me squirting videos.

I'm going to lay some blame at porn producers too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wait wait wait. Pause. Emma Thompson is a Dame?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

Women apparently didn’t start to shave until post WW1 when Gillette started marketing shaving at women, so capitalism "

I was more referring to natural bodies. Nobody wants completely natural eg unwashed, head hair ungroomed, finger nails long or broken...do they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Society brainwashes us to think lots of things and these things change over time. They change because we begin to challenge them. For many years it brainwashed men into believing that shaving their face was a necessary thing to do. I wonder how well recieved a near daily thread on whether women are more attractive with or without pubes would be?

Anyone who thinks that what we believe to be socially acceptable behaviour now will be the same in a decade, never mind longer isn't paying attention.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Society brainwashes us to think lots of things and these things change over time. They change because we begin to challenge them. For many years it brainwashed men into believing that shaving their face was a necessary thing to do. I wonder how well recieved a near daily thread on whether women are more attractive with or without pubes would be?

Anyone who thinks that what we believe to be socially acceptable behaviour now will be the same in a decade, never mind longer isn't paying attention.

Mr"

Yep we'd all be wearing powdered wigs and codpieces otherwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I prefer mine smooth, and never let it grow past the neatly trimmed stage. Not because of porn or anything but purely because I prefer the way it looks and feels

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Grooming is the thing, not fully shaving!

Funnily enough this seemed to be a 'deal breaker' just for me today over on fabguys, and I do actually shave quite a lot.

I've always felt a little uncomfortable about how the full thing can make women in particular look a bit pre-pbescent.

I'm not sure it's down to brainwashing though (no more than anything else anyway), I think a lot of women like the look and the feel of shaven skin.

A few of my female partners have done it even though I've always said I like body hair and personally prefer a nice bush (for example). Obviously I'm no good at reconditioning people!

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Anyone who thinks that what we believe to be socially acceptable behaviour now will be the same in a decade, never mind longer isn't paying attention.

Yep we'd all be wearing powdered wigs and codpieces otherwise"

Think I'd like a wig for those days my hair goes wild. Not sure how I'd fit in the car though

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Anyone who thinks that what we believe to be socially acceptable behaviour now will be the same in a decade, never mind longer isn't paying attention.

Yep we'd all be wearing powdered wigs and codpieces otherwise

Think I'd like a wig for those days my hair goes wild. Not sure how I'd fit in the car though

Think Marge Simpson

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By *orkcoastguyMan
over a year ago

Bridlington.

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

I always looked at shaving, men or women as a fashion thing.

So is adhering to fashion a form of 'brainwashing'?

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By *arialoueWoman
over a year ago

bradford

I shave as and when I feel like it, in summer my arm pits n legs get shaven the most

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

I always looked at shaving, men or women as a fashion thing.

So is adhering to fashion a form of 'brainwashing'?"

If it is we're all brainwashed to an extent. It's been a while since I've seen a bustle on the high street

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

I always looked at shaving, men or women as a fashion thing.

So is adhering to fashion a form of 'brainwashing'?"

Adhering to fashion isn’t, of course.

But telling someone they’re ugly/not attractive just because they don’t conform to whatever the current fashion trend is…. Is

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By *orkshireDrifterMan
over a year ago

Nafferton, nr Driffield.

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism. "

Capitalism?

Dialectical materialism as it applies to shaving ones pubes...

An interesting thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

I always looked at shaving, men or women as a fashion thing.

So is adhering to fashion a form of 'brainwashing'?

Adhering to fashion isn’t, of course.

But telling someone they’re ugly/not attractive just because they don’t conform to whatever the current fashion trend is…. Is "

That's not brainwashing, that's being abusive.

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

I used to conform and remove it all

But I realised I was never doing it for me and it's a faff that I can't be bothered with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure I agree with the word brainwashing but, pressured definitely.

I started shaving my legs at about 14 because some kid at school said I had hairy legs and took the micky out of me. I grew up believing I should remove my body hair because it was disgusting so that's what I did. I'm quite hairy for a woman or so I believed and was lead to believe that it wasn't right or normal to have body hair. I've shaved places that I have no choice but to continue doing so now unless I get laser treatment in the future, the damage is done. I still won't get my legs out if I haven't shaved them in the last 24 hours.

Pxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

Maybe she just fancies advertising the fact that she has a bush so she can get loads of cock.

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By *mtasticCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Absolutely! Not just women though in fairness, you only need to look at the media, advertising and also porn to realise its "the expected thing"

I have been lucky that Boss has enlightened me to see through all the ridiculousness!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

pubeDoes shaving pubes reduce the chance of lice ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

Maybe she just fancies advertising the fact that she has a bush so she can get loads of cock.

I hope she likes younger men. And Black men. Because I’m interested.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Well you voted say that there is pressure of a sort for men to get circumcised or for them to shave also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well you voted say that there is pressure of a sort for men to get circumcised or for them to shave also "

Pressure to get circumcised ?

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By *romagefraisWoman
over a year ago

Sunderland

I like the smooth feeling.

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By *renchFantasyCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Personal preference only

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still get pressure at 52 to shave my pubic hair from guys. I push back now, but I doubt I would have in my teens and twenties if the fashion had been to be bare. So yes, I agree with her to some extent.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

I was on the nudist beach for a few hours today. Very little pubic hair in sight, literally two or three women on the whole beach and a handful guys. Even they were trimmed.

Gbat

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

I feel pressure all the time to shave/wax.

Unfortunately I have Hidradenitis suppurativa and waxing/shaving can cause flare-ups.

Lazer hair removal is actually a great cure however it's stupidly expensive.

Thankfully my long term partners in the past have always been exceptionally understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try being a young(ish) person - we are pressured by beauty norms to shave, and by progressives and feminists to not shave. Its hell.

Most people say "Do whatever you want" which totally ignores the fact that your choice will leave you feeling judged and potentially feeling awkward. When there is so much pressure and everyone tells you that your choice has an underlying meaning, its really hard to figure out what you actually want.

For example:

I dont shave my legs generally, and will happily go bare legged to almost anything. For me, leg shaving is a faff I dont want to deal with. This includes when dating or for casual meets. However, when going to a sex club I feel uncomfortable about having hairy legs and worry about being judged. So I shave.

Then I realise that I really enjoy the sensation of having smooth legs and this feel very sexy! This in turn makes me feel guilty for being a bad feminist - I feel like I am a bad person and contributing to misogyny for enjoying having smooth legs.

And then some guy says something nice about my smooth legs being sexy and I feel an erruption of mixed up joy and shame.

Its bloody confusing.

I do think its getting better though! Its good that we have those opposing opinions to choose from at least.

Pubic hair is very simple for me - I trim when I am planning to have sex. It makes oral sex easier. If Im not having sex for whatever reason (like the pandemic) then I let it grow back again. I sometimes feel a little awkward in swim wear if I havent trimmed recently, but I can get over it. Im actually more comfortable with a bush when naked than when sporting a bikini line.

And for the sake of completeness - I never shave my armpits. That is just way too much of a faff and uncomfortable when it grows back.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

To a large extent

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"........

And then some guy says something nice about my smooth legs being sexy and I feel an erruption of mixed up joy and shame.

Being a "Good Feminist" is about making your own choices for your own reasons, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't shave your legs if "you" want to.

I remember when I was young, a "Shaved Pussy" was almost kinky. It has just become "the norm" because of the easy access to porn that is provided by the internet and due to the porn industry deciding that shaved is their asthetic of choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

This is her way of saying she has hairy armpits and an Afro below.

Each to their own and do as you like etc.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

If you give an inch, they might take a mile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

How does it give an extra inch?

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over a year ago

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

How does it give an extra inch?

No idea about that, but if you don’t have steady hands you might lose an inch

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Media over the years has influenced people totally

Still does even more so now. Though we are seeing more young women keeping a hairy fairy as well.

I am friends with a big group of college / uni students and often their convos Goto sex stuff , a big one is pubic hair and how it’s easier to not shave at times and enjoy being natural rather than confirming to an old stereotype of sexy is bald .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same goes for men, most women expect men to be tidied up down there. Most find it attractive some prefer their partner to be 'natural'.

It cracked me up when talking with a male friend about his preference, his words: "Egg shell finish" haha

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

Women apparently didn’t start to shave until post WW1 when Gillette started marketing shaving at women, so capitalism "

Gillette wouldn’t have started marketing to women if men didn’t start complaining about women using their razor…they would have spotted a new demographic to sell their products to.

They don’t convince you to shave, that’s determined by fashion, but their do convince you that their product is best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

How does it give an extra inch?

No idea about that, but if you don’t have steady hands you might lose an inch

you've lost me now

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I shave because I like how it looks and feels,not for any other reason.

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over a year ago

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

How does it give an extra inch?

No idea about that, but if you don’t have steady hands you might lose an inch

you've lost me now

Well he said he might gain an inch from shaving … if you slip with the razor you might lose an inch

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Nah I don’t think so. I did it long before it was “the thing”. I just don’t like hair down there

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over a year ago

"Looks and feels great on a woman so I like to return the favour. Also gives an extra inch apparently. I'll take all the help I can get

How does it give an extra inch?

No idea about that, but if you don’t have steady hands you might lose an inch

you've lost me now

Well he said he might gain an inch from shaving … if you slip with the razor you might lose an inch

be careful for the sake of your legion of fans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try being a young(ish) person - we are pressured by beauty norms to shave, and by progressives and feminists to not shave. Its hell.

For example:

And then some guy says something nice about my smooth legs being sexy and I feel an erruption of mixed up joy and shame.

Its bloody confusing.

I do think its getting better though! Its good that we have those opposing opinions to choose from at least.

And for the sake of completeness - I never shave my armpits. That is just way too much of a faff and uncomfortable when it grows back.

Can't win either way so just do what makes you happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

Maybe she just fancies advertising the fact that she has a bush so she can get loads of cock.

I hope she likes younger men. And Black men. Because I’m interested.

No harm in asking.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

Women apparently didn’t start to shave until post WW1 when Gillette started marketing shaving at women, so capitalism

Gillette wouldn’t have started marketing to women if men didn’t start complaining about women using their razor…they would have spotted a new demographic to sell their products to.

They don’t convince you to shave, that’s determined by fashion, but their do convince you that their product is best. "

Not true. Marketing is totally about taking a product and finding alternative markets.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

I would not listen too much to Emma Thomson to be honest.

Flys half way around the world to pontificate about climate change and how it’s everyone’s duty and then flys all the way back again

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"I think manipulative marketing techniques used by body care manufacturers have convinced us that our bodies in their natural form are unsightly and unhygienic. It's capitalism.

It's been a very long time since our bodies in their natural form have been socially acceptable.

Women apparently didn’t start to shave until post WW1 when Gillette started marketing shaving at women, so capitalism

Gillette wouldn’t have started marketing to women if men didn’t start complaining about women using their razor…they would have spotted a new demographic to sell their products to.

They don’t convince you to shave, that’s determined by fashion, but their do convince you that their product is best.

Not true. Marketing is totally about taking a product and finding alternative markets.

That’s exactly what they did, they realised women were using blokes razors so they decided to make them a pink one.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Brainwashed? It’s a sting word

Everyone’s free to do as they please. And you might be subjected to outcomes from that

Don’t shave, some men won’t like that, some will, you might not even care

Don’t feel forced to do something you don’t want. But don’t complain about the consequences either

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By *iss_Cali_xxCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay

I don't know, I shave because I hate the feel of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeezo! I don't think I've ever conformed to what the majority of the population does. As for shaving, my choice, my body and from time to time I do let it grow. Absolutely zero to do with brainwashing.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I dont shave anywhere & dont see any reason why women should unless they want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been lectured a couple of times about how I should shave because it's what men want. I'm not that desperate for a shag

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Think many posts on here are confusing brainwashing or similar with personal choice.

I like my triangle of pubes on show, keep the edges neat and tidy, just like the lawn but tend to leave the killer in the shed.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

I shave totally not because i have to but more because i myself want to. I dont conform to social pressure bollocks.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Pressure to do something is not the same as brainwashing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try being a young(ish) person - we are pressured by beauty norms to shave, and by progressives and feminists to not shave. Its hell.

For example:

And then some guy says something nice about my smooth legs being sexy and I feel an erruption of mixed up joy and shame.

Its bloody confusing.

I do think its getting better though! Its good that we have those opposing opinions to choose from at least.

And for the sake of completeness - I never shave my armpits. That is just way too much of a faff and uncomfortable when it grows back.

Totally get what you're saying but none of that adds up to brainwashing. You're simply describing the human instincts to fit in, be accepted, feel attractive etc. The second that some social ideal or other (including feminism) seeks to overcome these feelings it is doomed as it will not outcompete basic human instincts for long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't say brainwashed but I do think everyone who shaves conforms to the standards set by society and it's a bit naive to think differently.

It's something that has been ingrained in women for so long now, so now most women don't think twice about removing hair. I dunno, unless you've got some sensory issues etc then I don't believe anyone who says they shave do so purely because they want to.

It's something society has made us do and we do it subconsciously I think.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

Nope. She is a raging nobber anyway and is regularly wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was suddenly the trend or the norm to be hairy, I still wouldn’t.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Media over the years has influenced people totally

Still does even more so now. Though we are seeing more young women keeping a hairy fairy as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kudos to the ladies who are happy to not shave and all

Personally speaking, I freaking hate hair on my body (apart from my head and eyebrows)

So I lasered my body to the point I have barely none. Yes everywhere!

I love being a smooth baby mouse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

I don't think Dame Emma Thompson is giving women enough credit for taking agency over their own bodies tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

I don't think Dame Emma Thompson is giving women enough credit for taking agency over their own bodies tbh. "

Emma is a great woman and I for one be happy with a nicely trimmed bush make a change for bald pussy tbh

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

Are 'women' that weak willed? I don't know any that are.

Maybe they like the sensation of a tongue on bare skin, maybe they just like the look, maybe they do it for their partner?

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

I think someone further up mentioned that it's a bit naive to claim that there isn't at least pressure to do it

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think someone further up mentioned that it's a bit naive to claim that there isn't at least pressure to do it "

I agree, there's huge pressure on women (and to an extent men) to shave. I'm not easily swayed and I feel it although I don't give in to it. The phrasing of preferences 'smooth in the important places' being one that's particularly insidious in the sense that it has a subtle and cumulative effect. 'nobody likes to floss with pubic hair' 'I don't like searching through undergrowth '.

Look at the fuss when a woman has hairy armpits, if it's a celebrity it actually makes magazine coverage.

Brainwashed is a bit strong though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't a new thing, nearly all the girls I knew in my 20s and 30s were smooth all over only seems lately the natural look is becoming more common again

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I think she’s probably right. When I was a young man first experiencing the delights of women then it was the exception rather than the norm for a Brazilian down there let alone a full Hollywood

Bring back the bush!! "

Re hygiene, at the last Olympics the cycling commentators were saying that the cyclists were being advised not to shave, as the hair actually serves a purpose in terms of managing sweat etc. Less saddle sores etc once the riders stopped shaving

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?

Are 'women' that weak willed? I don't know any that are.

Maybe they like the sensation of a tongue on bare skin, maybe they just like the look, maybe they do it for their partner?

I’m struggling to imagine Emma Thompson being so weak willed. Bit if a windbag, but good luck to anyone trying to tell her what to do, never mind feeling that she has been brainwashed into doing anything.

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

I have pcos if I don't shave they'd be trying to put me in the zoo with the rest of the gorillas

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Save public lice

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Save public lice

What?

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"Save public lice

In a jam jar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dame Emma Thompson the actress says that women are brainwashed into shaving pubic hair..

Is this true ladies. ?"

I suspect she has a point to some degree, albeit I find the term ‘brainwashed’ a tad too Orwellian. I probably was swayed by preferred norms of society initially, and then realised I actually find being shaven far more comfortable (standfast the very annoying regrowth couple of days before it’s safe to zap the foof garden again)

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

seen a particulaly nasty version of this some months back when a popular model posted pics of her self with gasp horror a small trimmed bush on one of the model sites .where upon one of the photographers who had shot with her the most openly commented on the photo that he "would not work with her whilst she had the unsightly minge " her reply "bye then my body my choice " the fact that this idiot though he had even a smidgen of authority over how she treats her skin appaled most

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Save public lice

Won't somebody think of the lice?!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Save public lice

Won't somebody think of the lice?!"

Particularly the public ones …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find that it's often the men I talk to wanting hair free. Thankfully my FWBs aren't like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t shave, I’m trimmed neatly, and I do it for me, not anyone else.

There definitely is pressure to confirm to expected standards though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of the ‘marginal gains’ that the British Cycling team realised at the 2012 London games was asking the female cyclists to stop shaving, because the lost and/or poor quality training that resulted from simple regrowth and ingrown hairs etc simply reduced their performance.

So remember ladies, you go faster with some bush.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shave them bits bruh and brazzers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shave them bits bruh and brazzers"

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Shave them bits bruh and brazzers"

Am I a brazzer?

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

"Shave them bits bruh and brazzers

Am I a brazzer? "

What’s a Brazzer?

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By *errynjuneCouple
over a year ago

Barnsley

We just love mutual shaving sessions lol. X

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By *moothstaffspeepsCouple
over a year ago

Stafford

I shave us both because we hate pubes and feel it enhances our intimacy

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By *eneralPMan
over a year ago

other

I think it’s largely a personal choice - I have no preference in a female partner but personally I like to veet or shave as it makes the sensation of sex better!

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Not sure that personal choice equates to brainwashing.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

I do the bits I want to do, when I want to do it, for my own benefit.

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