FabSwingers.com forum: Membership fees rising?

By *he love cats OP Couple
over a year ago

South Wales

With everything getting more expensive, do you think your fab membership is good value for money? Do you think it will rise in price? Do you think all user's should pay the fee? Do you think existing fee payer's should pay the extra cost for others to remain here for free? Do you think by making everyone pay would stop people from getting numerous amounts of fake accounts set up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would ask all to pay when join the site...there would be less fake profiles

but that's only my opinion...and photo veryfies for absolutely everyone,no excuses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah personally I think everyone should pay, it should sift out the fakes and save the embarrasment of curious people having a look and seeing someone they might know.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I don't think people should have to pay to join I think it's fine as it is. It won't stop the fakes anyhow but it will stop genuine people from joining if they have to pay straight away. I certainly wouldn't have joined if I had to pay.

I am a site supporter now and I don't see it as paying to help keep that choose not to. I see it as being able to use the extra functions like notes etc.

I don't see why the price should go up in future and I'm sure that by keeping it at the level they do it ensures more people pay to be a site supporter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don’t think everyone should have to pay to join. Myself and I’m sure many others wouldn’t have joined if you had to pay.

It might stop a few fakes but it wouldn’t stop them all, you’d still get fake profiles.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Honestly after buying it a few times I have zero idea what it offers

I’m without it and I’ve noticed no difference in terms of my use of the site

I know it offers some small features like who looked at me, but as a single guy I found none of them useful and the idea of it useless

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

In terms of making people pay, you might get rid of a lot of the “undesirables” but you’ll have many desirables that just move onto one of the many free apps available that basically offer the same thing.

And there’s still gonna be plenty of guys paying a monthly fee to send you a dick pic and “hey how’s u”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sure we all entitled to our opinions...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's great value and I wouldn't like to pay much more to be here.

I don't think making everyone pay a fiver would stop fake accounts or solve any negative issues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s good vaule if you use the the stuff for me the extra pics is worth it

Make everyone pay wouldn’t stop the fakes at all or in less you rased the price to like £100-200 a month

£5-10-15 isn’t much for someone to get kicks out off being fake

Also would make them harder to spot as some would presume that everyone is real because they payed

The only real way to stop them

Is for fab to have decided staff on bord

When a new profile is carted they get put in to a 24 hour holding zone they have 24 hours to upload a photo verification pic

If not profile is deleted while in this holding zone they can’t use the site they will stay in this holding zone for up to another 48 hours

Giveing someone from the dedcted team

To run background check on phone

Cross check it with image search

Run it though a photo shop agrithum that can tell if the pics been photo shopped at all

Ones they passed all that

They aren’t allowed to send messages first for a month on a trail period they can message but only if another member message first

Only why to stop fakes it to make them jump though so meny hoops it’s just not worth it

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

Reading

Reading on my newsfeed today. The government are to bring in age restriction for porn sites. In the news item . Referred to adult sites. Now will this mean for FAB. Some form of age verification. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With everything getting more expensive, do you think your fab membership is good value for money? ...Yes

Do you think it will rise in price? ...Don't know

Do you think all user's should pay the fee? ...No

Do you think existing fee payer's should pay the extra cost for others to remain here for free? ...No

Do you think by making everyone pay would stop people from getting numerous amounts of fake accounts set up? ...No. It would just make people even more entitled as they would be demanding the sex they 'paid for'

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By *arquis du LacMan
over a year ago

leeds

That is a very good shout.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reading on my newsfeed today. The government are to bring in age restriction for porn sites. In the news item . Referred to adult sites. Now will this mean for FAB. Some form of age verification. ? "

Interesting

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"I would ask all to pay when join the site...there would be less fake profiles

but that's only my opinion...and photo veryfies for absolutely everyone,no excuses."

Amen to this ^^^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would ask all to pay when join the site...there would be less fake profiles

but that's only my opinion...and photo veryfies for absolutely everyone,no excuses."

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

The only good thing about being a site supporter is being able to see the message chat. Apart from that it really doesn't offer much else unless you like posting loads of pics, videos etc.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"The only good thing about being a site supporter is being able to see the message chat. Apart from that it really doesn't offer much else unless you like posting loads of pics, videos etc."

But I like chatting so I'm happy to pay.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"The only good thing about being a site supporter is being able to see the message chat. Apart from that it really doesn't offer much else unless you like posting loads of pics, videos etc.

But I like chatting so I'm happy to pay.

So do I, I don't mind paying, it is what it is x

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I don't think 10p per day is too much to ask - imo.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

I think the model is spot on and not sure whether there is a business justification for the owners to raise or cut their prices. Only they will know.

In my opinion, the current price point is reasonable enough to make the transactional business approach stable. You start increasing prices then it’s possible it’s going to impact this and then the VFM is going to have to be improved. There are other sites that are more expensive, and also have some good features and benefits, which deliver value. Fab have got a good market.

The free to join with the option to pay for additional features, is a subscription model (SaaS) that’s been around for quite a while and is getting more and more popular to onboard customers.

Typically with the SaaS model, it’s about economies of scale, so the more onboarded, the cheaper the service gets (or should get). So I would look at it more that we aren’t paying for the free users, but the model is keeping the price static, as it’s been for years and years.

Paying is going to remove some some of the low level fakes without a doubt, but it’s not going to eliminate them completely. The price point may attract (and does now) a certain type of fake account and perhaps people with intentions we may not approve of. Yet, this is no different to a site with higher fees. So regardless of free to average to expensive, you have to be savvy.

The one point made that is very interesting is that free does mean that someone could join and have a nose and see if they can spot someone they know, for whatever reason.

With that, you then have to decide do you value your privacy enough to think you need to go to a site that is more expensive and perhaps more secure?

How secure fab is, I don’t know, but there are some configurations that you can enable to prevent new joiners from accessing your account for example.

So maybe an idea would be to have some enhanced security features and have fab lock down everything from registration the have a wizard (or a wizard option) to go through configuration with some explanations to ensure people have the right amount of exposure vs privacy that they’re comfortable with. And if not, then they can make a decision. That would be worth paying (or paying extra) for IMHO.

Not exactly part of the initial question, but additional security and privacy at a cost or higher cost, would be where I see value.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

I/we used to have 3 memberships

My solo female, my husbands solo male & our couples, but we stopped renewing them about a year ago as we didn't notice whichever features we lost

I do however think there should be a charge for fab & it should be compulsory & more than the £5 currently charged as I think it will limit the amount of picture collectors & fantasists on here

But I guess the owners don't want to go down the route as a compulsory charge/increased cost would lead to calls for a better site etc & it seems to be if it's not broke don't fix it kind of thing to me

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I think pay to fix the issue with low effort users is a bigger change than what’s needed to fix the issue

I’d just introduce a pretty strict messaging limit that improves with each level of verification

New account with no pictures or verifications or anything? Limited to 1 new message a day (replies to current conversations don’t count)

Add a picture? Message limit goes up. Maybe make it so that if it’s a face picture that limit goes up even more then just body pics

Get verified? Message limit goes up.

Verified by another user? Keeps going up

Make it so actually engaging in the site for real let’s you engage more.

I often see people complain about fakes on here, and they are a problem. But I feel the bigger problem is the high number of just low effort profiles. No pictures, no bio, spamming “hey how’s u” to every profile within 50 miles of them. I don’t think a £5 entry barrier will deter those people. But making them have to actually engage with the site might

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...No. It would just make people even more entitled as they would be demanding the sex they 'paid for' "

I agree with this too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It wouldn’t stop fakes, but it would stop genuine people joining.

Also, as above, some people would feel more entitled.

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By *ustusboth2013Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I think pay to fix the issue with low effort users is a bigger change than what’s needed to fix the issue

I’d just introduce a pretty strict messaging limit that improves with each level of verification

New account with no pictures or verifications or anything? Limited to 1 new message a day (replies to current conversations don’t count)

Add a picture? Message limit goes up. Maybe make it so that if it’s a face picture that limit goes up even more then just body pics

Get verified? Message limit goes up.

Verified by another user? Keeps going up

Make it so actually engaging in the site for real let’s you engage more.

I like the idea of the gamification approach. Different badges for how much effort/engagement, which in turn can give you the decision with who you want to converse with.

Though these type of features will mean development costs, which need to be absorbed or passed on.

Nice idea though.

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By *he love cats OP Couple
over a year ago

South Wales

Personally I wouldn't mind paying more for better security and more features. Think with the cost of living increasing daily some people may struggle to pay the fees they already do. Can the site continue to run if maybe half stopped paying? I think they would then increase the existing fees to make up for the shortfall?

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By *ustusboth2013Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Personally I wouldn't mind paying more for better security and more features. Think with the cost of living increasing daily some people may struggle to pay the fees they already do. Can the site continue to run if maybe half stopped paying? I think they would then increase the existing fees to make up for the shortfall?"

I believe there’s a revenue stream from advertising, which as a paid member we don’t see.

But if half stopped paying, does your question mean the other half pay double? I think that would be business suicide. I’d hazard a guess that fab is run like a little cash cow.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Yeah personally I think everyone should pay, it should sift out the fakes and save the embarrasment of curious people having a look and seeing someone they might know. "

I always have trouble trying to follow the 'fake' argument. I think a perve / fake will pay a fiver to use the site and some so called genuine people will continue to let you down.

It's the person that counts. Not if they can afford the gentelmen's club fees.

A cunt is a cunt.

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By *he AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

Before I took a break from here I was a paying member.

This time around I'm not and to be honest I'm not seeing the benefits of silver or gold membership fees, bar I suspose I can't see who perved me, but also saying that I'm mainly back for the forums and old friends, so maybe I don't need all the bells and Whistles.

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By *he AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

"Yeah personally I think everyone should pay, it should sift out the fakes and save the embarrasment of curious people having a look and seeing someone they might know.

I always have trouble trying to follow the 'fake' argument. I think a perve / fake will pay a fiver to use the site and some so called genuine people will continue to let you down.

It's the person that counts. Not if they can afford the gentelmen's club fees.

A cunt is a cunt."
could not agree more, spot on.

Big fan of your work there GC.

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By *he AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

"It wouldn’t stop fakes, but it would stop genuine people joining.

Also, as above, some people would feel more entitled."

this,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd happily pay more if they spent some money implementing new features to make the site more functional.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Keep it free! I think £30 I pay for 10 months is good value for money x

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By *he AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

"I'd happily pay more if they spent some money implementing new features to make the site more functional. "
vecareful what you wish for on that 1,

(new features wise)

I along with a few others here were on another site (irish 1) and it was great Craic, but they tried updating it and went international and they killed it off within 6 months,

If it ain't broken, don't try fix it, as the old saying goes.

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Yes, I think the £5 Is good, for being able to keep track of message trails and post more pics if I wanted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd happily pay more if they spent some money implementing new features to make the site more functional. vecareful what you wish for on that 1,

(new features wise)

I along with a few others here were on another site (irish 1) and it was great Craic, but they tried updating it and went international and they killed it off within 6 months,

If it ain't broken, don't try fix it, as the old saying goes.

Message grouping and forum notifications would be so awesome though!

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By *airyChestedDaveMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

I think it’s fine as it’s. Sometimes I don’t renew site support but then I’ll go 2-3 months renewing it regular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah personally I think everyone should pay, it should sift out the fakes and save the embarrasment of curious people having a look and seeing someone they might know.

I always have trouble trying to follow the 'fake' argument. I think a perve / fake will pay a fiver to use the site and some so called genuine people will continue to let you down.

It's the person that counts. Not if they can afford the gentelmen's club fees.

A cunt is a cunt."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess the argument around fakes is that they may well have multiple fake accounts or they may just set up a new one when they’ve been discovered as fake and banned. And £5 a month each time might put ‘some’ off.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Higher fees won't stop the fakes. If they did then there wouldn't be so many people complaining about all the fakes on other sites that do charge more.

Not only would higher fees increase the level of expectation among those who would demand a return on their investment but it would also raise the level of entitlement among those who believe the site should be more elitist.

It's obvious that so many already feel that the site is beneath them but for some unknown reason they are still here.

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