FabSwingers.com forum: Is eminem the best rapper in the world?

By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I like him and his music do you? I also like his story to fame. I would put him amongst the best ones, if not THE best rapper, from lose yourself to I am not afraid which is my favourite one, he is a lyrical genius

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Not for me.

There are certain rappers I enjoy more than others. Some I don't get/like but they're held in high regard by their peers and the industry etc.

I don't put any at "best" but I enjoy Dr Dre, Snoop, Ice Cube, Kanye, 50 Cents, Ja Rhule and Eminem too.

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By *orayMint86Man
over a year ago

Moray

"I like him and his music do you? I also like his story to fame. I would put him amongst the best ones, if not THE best rapper, from lose yourself to I am not afraid which is my favourite one, he is a lyrical genius

Definitely a lyrical genius! I stumbled across a you tube channel of a guy breaking down his lyrics and explaining them. A lot of his lyrics have multi meanings and plays on words that most people overlook and are sheer brilliance. The profanity he uses probably turns a lot of people off to his talents sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My favourite wrapper isn’t m&ms but the old caramel one. You know the yellow paper one that you had to unfold and was foil lined

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely up there, just for the way he manages to ryhme certain words and flows, but there better out there. Imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's my personal favourite probably but I'm not sure I'd call him the best necessarily as I haven't listened to every one of them

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

KRS-One

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best and Rapper is a non sequiter surely.

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By *ilkChocManMan
over a year ago

Sanderstead

Guru for me.

He lyrical work was incredible, and the subjects too.

Give 'Mass Appeal' a listen as a starter.

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By *oney_Bee_xTV/TS
over a year ago

Teesside

He comes across as really angry, bitter and vents in his lyrics a lot lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think there is a best per say but I like Eminem, 50cent, Royce Da5'9, Logic, Joyner Lucas

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By *nfinitylandMan
over a year ago

Leicester

Hes definitely the most lyrical rapper. No one is on par with him that way. He rhymes orange with banana in one of his new ones lol

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

Dream on.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

He shouldn't still be ANGRY at his age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched a really wierd interview of Eminem I thought it was a prank but it’s legit apparently

https://youtu.be/bSdlpBG_4ss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dream on. "

You're right, their opinion is wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know it’s old but I loved Stan ... the him & dido mix of tones I loved

Ahhhm I like Cardi B - she knows what sheeee wants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He shouldn't still be ANGRY at his age

He should be getting even more angry at his age

most old people do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He shouldn't still be ANGRY at his age

He should be getting even more angry at his age

most old people do

Waiting for the next album to drop: "Get Off my Lawn, You Damn Kids!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I love him, no.

J Cole, Nas, Kendrick Lamar are up there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hes definitely the most lyrical rapper. No one is on par with him that way. He rhymes orange with banana in one of his new ones lol"

J Cole puts Eminem to shame in my opinion. He doesn’t get the recognition he deserves!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope..not even a little bit

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

He’s decent, but wouldn’t make it into our top 100.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes on the lyrical ability alone and complexity of his rhyme schemes .. swiftly followed by 2 pac ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dre the best beat maker.

Ice cube and 2pac best lyricalists.

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By *b710Man
over a year ago

London

Some great rappers and lyricists mentioned including M&M,Kendrick,J.Cole,50,KRS-One, Guru from Gangsta etc. But for me the guy that's doing it at the moment on a "low key" famous level, with amazing flows, lyricisms, word play,proper "Freestyle" of the top of his head, you name it he has IT, is........Harry Mack. Check out his Omegle Bars on YouTube....it will give you brain orgasms!!!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Think he was very successful in making that cross over from making 'black music 'popular amongst white people without losing any credibility.

He is also great in 8 mile which is a massively underrated film.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Top selling rap artist of all time by far! Not bad for a white boy from a trailer park

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By *istretchMan
over a year ago

leeds

Tom Mcdonald at the present as angry and as white .

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *lowhands7Man
over a year ago

South Leicestershire (willing to travel)

No MC Hammer is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The late great Guru was the greatest rapper, followed by Chuck D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, and this is personal preference Q-Tip.

With an honourable mention to Posdnuos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put a guitar in either hands they'll tdy cook with it he couldn't play a three barre chord if he tried sorry that aint music

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I always thought it was John Barnes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say he's a close second and just pipped to the no1 spot by PJ and Duncan's let's get ready to rumble x

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By *hrough the looking gla55Couple
over a year ago

Epsom

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

ICP - Jugalos for life!

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By *heerFlirtMan
over a year ago

Quite near Bath usually

No.

Chuck D by a country mile, although it appears "we got some non-believers out there"

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

Roots Manuva, Chin High (manuvadelics version)

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By *hocCock1Man
over a year ago

Southampton

Absolutely no way !! Hes very very good, but you need to go back to the Golden Era of hip hop to hear real genius,many old school rappers did it of the top of their head rapping about what was in front of them at that minute ! Try Rakim "Follow the Leader" or anything by KRS-One for real lyrical content

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By *onnyrover72Man
over a year ago

doncaster

For those that day no, watch him on you tube doing Rap God live

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There a lot of great rappers but hes my personnal favourite.

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By *istretchMan
over a year ago

leeds

"ICP - Jugalos for life!"

Some weired icp songs out there lol .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would say he's a close second and just pipped to the no1 spot by PJ and Duncan's let's get ready to rumble x "

When they rock the mic, Phsyc!

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By *aughty Nas xxxMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Nas !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Easily the best. There is a depth to his lyrics no one else does. The way he t'd up MGK something else. You have to really read into his work to see the true genius behind it.

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By *wistedTooCouple
over a year ago

Frimley

Even Eminem says he’s not. The title can’t go to any one rapper. There’s no way to judge them all - including unsigned ones - and “best” is a personal thing. Favourite ... sure. That’s subjective. Objectively though? Impossible to say.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

He used to be but hasn't had any good music in a long time. His music now is just terrible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His lyrics are insanely good! "Like Home" specifically, from Revival is fantastic, personally.

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

Eminem hasn’t had a proper club banger. Hip hop is derived from music you dance to, and he’s not had that one track that gets the whole family up at a wedding. A great MC yes, but the greatest? No. He is some way behind Biggie and Jay Z for me

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Dre, Snoop and Ludacris.

I love the melodic tone of Snoop and Ludacris. I also like Nate Dogg for that reason. May not be the best writers, but their voices do it for me.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Mocking bird is a great song

Some of his personal stuff is hard to watch

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

Rap isn’t my favourite genre, I do like a bit of Eminem, but as the mother of a teenage boy who takes over the car stereo I’m now quite ‘wiv it’ and don’t mind a bit of Travis Scott, Lil Uzi Vert, Post Malone, Logic, Slow Thai etc. I am beyond cool!

Lou x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Throwing Aesop Rock, Sage Francis, B Dolan, J ay-Z and Saul Williams into the pot.

I like Eminem and think he’s great at what he does but I’d need far more range to hold him that high up.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Grandmaster Melle Mel and the rest of the Furious Five.

Doug E Fresh.

Tone Loc.

Zac de la Rocha.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Think he was very successful in making that cross over from making 'black music 'popular amongst white people without losing any credibility.

He is also great in 8 mile which is a massively underrated film."
Yes, he was successful in doing that too, yes, it sure is a good movie too. I like it how it all started in a trailer park then to fame

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

Yes..I rate Eminem

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

An ugly reprehensible musical genre. Pure poison that contaminates young minds. Subliminal degradation of the human condition. Requires no vocal instrumental or rhythmic talent . Just stutter and spout mindless incomprehensible nonsense into a microphone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An ugly reprehensible musical genre. Pure poison that contaminates young minds. Subliminal degradation of the human condition. Requires no vocal instrumental or rhythmic talent . Just stutter and spout mindless incomprehensible nonsense into a microphone."

Get it all off your chest!

It’s one of the most popular genres today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not sure you know what you are talking about. Stan is a lyrical masterpiece

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

Are you a failed rapper?

Lou x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you a failed rapper?

Just a failure

Lou x "

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

Yeah, young minds were absolutely not corrupted before hip hop came along. What a fucking ignorant thing to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks for that. If you genuinely think that it requires no rhythmic talent then I suggest your sense of rhythm may be lacking.

Either way nice to see an accepting mindset on here. I mean we don't all like the same kind of music, but I'll respect the talent required to make it. But then we can't all be into Cliff Richards or Gregorian Plainsong (to be honest I hated it back in my days as a fresh faced young Chorister, RSCM Cathedral Singer I'll have you know).

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I get his importance and lyrical brilliance, but I struggle with his voice.

I think the likes of Rakim, Mos Def, The Roots, J Live, Q-Tip, Michael Franti are better to listen too.

Just personal preference though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For what he done with the Rap Game and taking it to new heights within the mainstream you have to admire that whether you like him or not.

For me he is a lyrical genius, some of his rhymes and flows you wouldn't ever be able to touch.

However, another lyrical genius is Tupac. That guy really knew how to rap. And the amount of empowering songs he made is unreal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does Rufus Wainwright count, just asking

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"Does Rufus Wainwright count, just asking"

Not since he got sent down for his part in that drive-by and the previous pistol-whipping thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hey there chuckles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guns don’t kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on BBC2

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By *arbarianzCouple
over a year ago

BARNSTAPLE

No, he's not. in his prime he was a niche and therefore good, and he is an AMAZING lyricist, but honestly? he's really not THAT good.

Allow me to educate.

Hopsin - Kumbaya.

NF - Leave me alone/The Search/When I grow up.

Tom MacDonald - No lives matter, People so stupid.

Listen to all those, and then tell me that rap is bad, or that Em is the GOAT!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's good with a triangle though

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By *b710Man
over a year ago

London

99% of the rappers mentioned above including M&M had their part to play in making the genre what it is today....some more than others from Grandmaster Flash, Kool Herc,Doug E. Fresh through to Kool Moe Dee,Big Daddy Kane LL, Chuck D, Biggy, 2Pac, Naz, Jay, Jayne, Kendrick etc. But the new kid on the block with amazing lyrical flow, wordplay, incredible cadence of the top (of the head) Freestyle is......Harry Mack.

Check out his Omegle Bars 1.

You will be blown away.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We kinda agree, for example you certainly can't compare the likes of Elvis Presley or Freddie Mercury with rappers, those two guys REALLY could sing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We kinda agree, for example you certainly can't compare the likes of Elvis Presley or Freddie Mercury with rappers, those two guys REALLY could sing

You can’t compare because they’re in a completely different music genre.

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot. "

You obviously missed Whitneys Death Metal phase....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

You obviously missed Whitneys Death Metal phase...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

You obviously missed Whitneys Death Metal phase...."

Of course...that’s if Slipknot were Death Metal....which they werent

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By *SuperbMan
over a year ago

now in Germany

I remember kissing a girl in front of her parents in a bar in Portugal listening to Eminem Without Me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

You obviously missed Whitneys Death Metal phase....

Of course...that’s if Slipknot were Death Metal....which they werent"

That maybe so. But Whitney, absolutely...

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"Guns don’t kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on BBC2"

“Shot to death outside Hypervalue”

You Knows It.

I thought of this for the first time in many years and watched the video recently. Very funny.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

Yeah, young minds were absolutely not corrupted before hip hop came along. What a fucking ignorant thing to say"

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

"99% of the rappers mentioned above including M&M had their part to play in making the genre what it is today....some more than others from Grandmaster Flash, Kool Herc,Doug E. Fresh through to Kool Moe Dee,Big Daddy Kane LL, Chuck D, Biggy, 2Pac, Naz, Jay, Jayne, Kendrick etc. But the new kid on the block with amazing lyrical flow, wordplay, incredible cadence of the top (of the head) Freestyle is......Harry Mack.

Check out his Omegle Bars 1.

You will be blown away....."

I'l check him out

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By *ungleTemptressWoman
over a year ago

The Jungle

Loving the suggestions in this thread! Other honourable mentions... method man, mos def, talib kweli, chali 2na, Big L, MF doom, prodigy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No.

Chuck D by a country mile, although it appears "we got some non-believers out there"

Chuck D is the man but so is the RZA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

You obviously missed Whitneys Death Metal phase....

Of course...that’s if Slipknot were Death Metal....which they werent"

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By *wistedTooCouple
over a year ago

Frimley

L... O... L. Very small minded of you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ope have never seen the point of rap enimen in particular I like music I can relate to the lyrics and can actually hear what the song is about I find rap which may just be my age but I find it like annoying buzz in the ears

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karen?? Is that you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That bloke out of FIVE nails the rap!

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By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Absolutely not even close. Just horrifically appropriated nonsense. Never been that good, all he ever was was fast. Kendrick, Kanye, J. Cole all far superior & thats just AFTER Em never mind any of the legends beforehand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a difference between your personal favorite and the actual best. The latter being near impossible to judge as the criteria on which you could grade is so open to interpretation.

There are rappers that are technically gifted and brilliant lyricists but not so much to my personal taste.

Then there are ones whose music I enjoy and consider it to be "deep" lyrically but are they the best? Probably not.

Nas, J. Cole, Andre 3000, Jay Z, Kanye and the much underrated Lauryn Hill, are all rappers that I hold in high regard for either their lyrics, rapping style or overall music. Definitely not for their personal conduct as Kanye certainly wouldn't be on there otherwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Special mentions; to Busta Rhymes gimme some more, young mc know how.

Public enemy chuck D is up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And oddly Corey Taylor Slipknot is pretty good spittin em out on the track ironically named ‘spit it out’.

Doesn’t count as rap genre, but his speed, tone, and the power in those lungs are actually pretty impressive. Technically he’s good and his dynamic range is impressive, even if it makes you ears bleed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ever heard of MC Hammer?

No?

Didn't think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And oddly Corey Taylor Slipknot is pretty good spittin em out on the track ironically named ‘spit it out’.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l4jXzmsP4dw

That is a masterclass; done live, done hard.

If you can get through it, check out 4m56s. Luckily the stadium didn’t have a roof as it would have blown clean off at this point.

I defy you to find any other rapper that can work a crowd like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ever heard of MC Hammer?

No?

Didn't think so

His powers came from those pants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like him, not sure if he’s the best rapper but he definitely has the ability to appeal to the masses.

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By *pertureTV/TS
over a year ago

New Ferry, wirral in stockings and sussies

Grand master flash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We kinda agree, for example you certainly can't compare the likes of Elvis Presley or Freddie Mercury with rappers, those two guys REALLY could sing

You can’t compare because they’re in a completely different music genre.

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot. "

If a singer can hit every single note then that's vocal talent, just how many singers really can do that ?? also talent needs no voice training - if you've got it,you've got it, no need for any training vocally.

Look at the tribute concert to Freddie Mercury - NONE could hit the notes he hit and most admitted they could not sing the songs

Both Elvis and Freddie could have even sang opera, how many rap singers could do that,lol.

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By *rimKardashianMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Simple answer.

NO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ever heard of MC Hammer?

No?

Didn't think so

His powers came from those pants "

Yes, it's just a shame we couldn't touch 'it'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We kinda agree, for example you certainly can't compare the likes of Elvis Presley or Freddie Mercury with rappers, those two guys REALLY could sing

You can’t compare because they’re in a completely different music genre.

That’s like comparing Whitney Houston to Slipknot.

Look at the tribute concert to Freddie Mercury - NONE could hit the notes he hit and most admitted they could not sing the songs

Both Elvis and Freddie could have even sang opera, how many rap singers could do that,lol."

Where is the relevance in this post?

Elvis a great musician, agreed, Freddie a great musician, agreed. But music and talent take many forms. Whether either could have sung opera I'll take issue with, as there is so much technique and training required to master the breath control and projection (amongst other skills) needed.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, I have sung Plainsong when I was a chorister, and I was good (in my humble opinion) having sung in most of the Cathedrals in this country when I was a member of the Royal School of Church Music. But I'll tell you this plainsong is bloody dull, (again in my humble opinion) as it's only a few notes and it durges along. But some people love it, and more power to them.

Music is about expression of thoughts, ideas and ultimately about bringing pleasure to the listener. It is good if it succeeds at that. I very much doubt you'll have been to a Cradle of Filth gig, but those that have most probably loved it. By the same token if you put Michael Buble on your stereo and enjoy it that's fantastic. (I'll probably want to take a cricket bat to the stereo but hey, I won't)

Don't you think it's a bit insulting that just because you don't enjoy a genre of music it's perfectly acceptable to say it's not as good as a genre that you do enjoy?

And breath....

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I like the lyrics of not afraid and I find it fun when he showing the paper of the lyrics and it goes like this:

You can try and read my lyrics off of this paper before I lay 'em

But you won't take the sting out these words before I say 'em

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Certainly the best white rapper much better than Robert vanwinke

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