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Hunting for bears should be illegal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?"
Yes to all and as well to the elephants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants."

Are elephants not animals?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't realise people eat bears.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As with all your great threads Shag I’m in total agreement with what ever you say because your finger is always on the pulse.

T

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Bears are right nasty bastard's tear you to pieces..I guess in Alaska it's a case of kill them before they kill us. Besides are always find it funny how people are selective with animals..fine to eat pigs.. cows ..sheep..etc..but take the moral high ground when it's something else..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants.

Are elephants not animals?"
Yes they did. I just worded it abit wrong there.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Not a dilemma I’ve ever had.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. "
Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

U don’t get many bears in stoke ..

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

the abyss

I think the lines become blurred when its you get to traditional tribes such as Inuits who are careful and and only kill what they will eat and use every part I don't have as much of a problem

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By *otstuffbabeCouple
over a year ago

Bolton


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?"

I can only assume that yoou're totally vegan?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

All animals have familys? U should hear the poor mamas calling their babies at bottom of daughters garden it's that time of year again! They go on for about 2 days! People very selective! A sheep pig horse cat dog all the same wouldn't eat any of them! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years."

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Loaded subject. People are really viciously cruel to rattlesnakes and nobody cares much because well, they're rattlesnakes.

I'm not vegan so can't say much without being hypocritical but humanity in all our dealings with living things is the way forward.

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By *otmale5Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?"

I agree.. I’m against the unnecessary killing of any animal particularly where it’s undertaken to make “ good tv”” those that live in the more remote and hostile areas of the world , like Alaska , do so knowing the risks it faces Or are paid to be there by television. I wonder if when the programme stops , will they be willing to stay. . If they have to kill bears fir food then Perhaps they need to relocate to an area with infrastructure and social commerce, where they can live socially. Then again it doesn’t make “ good tv”” Just my opinion. .

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. "

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"All animals have familys? U should hear the poor mamas calling their babies at bottom of daughters garden it's that time of year again! They go on for about 2 days! People very selective! A sheep pig horse cat dog all the same wouldn't eat any of them! X"
That is also right, some can go without their parents for days depending what animals it is, as they are out looking for food.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Yes it fine as long it is sustainable ...

Go for everything...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies.."
I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"All animals have familys? U should hear the poor mamas calling their babies at bottom of daughters garden it's that time of year again! They go on for about 2 days! People very selective! A sheep pig horse cat dog all the same wouldn't eat any of them! XThat is also right, some can go without their parents for days depending what animals it is, as they are out looking for food."

Sadly they wont c their babies again ever! As the farmer has taken them to another field for a short while then it's of to the table for them poor babies! x

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x"

That’s precisely why numbers of so many species are in decline and others are made extinct. Too many people that couldn’t care less that are killing animals, usually for money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too."

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Loaded subject. People are really viciously cruel to rattlesnakes and nobody cares much because well, they're rattlesnakes.

I'm not vegan so can't say much without being hypocritical but humanity in all our dealings with living things is the way forward."
Yes it sure is a loaded subject too and people can be that too, same not a vegan but, there is a difference of what thing we eat as well and the sustainability of it, so in that way we can be more selective of what choices to have to eat for meat.

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge


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all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. "

For whom? For people? So really, as soon as people decide they want to live there then the animals just need to get used to the idea that they're going to be killed. "All animals". This is pure Earth as Man's dominion, to rule as he sees fit as he was made in God's image stuff.

I thought this had died with the Empire.


" As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. "
This is simply not true. For a start, elephants - oddly - eat from trees. Where they live, few other things eat from trees. They don't share territory with giraffes, for example.

I don't know where you're getting your wildlife information, but Johny Morris would have a fit. If he wasn't dead.

(And by the way, [italics] decimate [/italics] means "to reduce by 1/10.")

You're welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?"
...Unfortunately it's just the Bear necessities of life

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x"

We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"I think the lines become blurred when its you get to traditional tribes such as Inuits who are careful and and only kill what they will eat and use every part I don't have as much of a problem "

This ^ and I imagine the individuals hunting a bear do pretty much the same.

What each culture does is their ways, just because we don’t do it, doesn’t make it wrong.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x

We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3"

So they enough to control our numbers? or do we need a cull? X

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge

He used to live in Colorado. And Wisconsin. Both of them have bears, but the bears in CO are bigger. What usually happens is similar to this:

People build a house where the bears live. When it comes to hibernation time the bears look for a cave. An open cellar door or a hole behind a loose air-conditioner unit looks very much like a cave if you're a bear. Then Mom takes the washing down to the cellar to do and screams because there's a bear down there and it can't get out (because she just woke it up and it hasn't a clue how a human got to be standing in front of them screaming in their cave).

Call the Sheriff. Who turns up with a gun and doesn't have a lot of options he can think of to stop the woman screaming.

That and campsites, where people leave their rubbish so the bears think it's that place where you get free food, so they start hanging out there too....

Get serious people. It's all about us. We want, we get, God said so and gosh darn it we'll shoot anything that hinders that for a moment, redskins, bears or any other critter that wants to get in the way of progress and a bullet.

Sadly, that seems to be the view on several of these posts as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it. "
Yes but in a controlled way not in a irresponsible way.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"Bears are right nasty bastard's tear you to pieces..I guess in Alaska it's a case of kill them before they kill us. Besides are always find it funny how people are selective with animals..fine to eat pigs.. cows ..sheep..etc..but take the moral high ground when it's something else.."

Yeah same. Slagging off the Chinese for being filthy for eating certain animals at the start of covid 19 meanwhile tucking into their bacon sandwich.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Bears are right nasty bastard's tear you to pieces..I guess in Alaska it's a case of kill them before they kill us. Besides are always find it funny how people are selective with animals..fine to eat pigs.. cows ..sheep..etc..but take the moral high ground when it's something else..

Yeah same. Slagging off the Chinese for being filthy for eating certain animals at the start of covid 19 meanwhile tucking into their bacon sandwich. "

Exactly!! X

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

I agree.. I’m against the unnecessary killing of any animal particularly where it’s undertaken to make “ good tv”” those that live in the more remote and hostile areas of the world , like Alaska , do so knowing the risks it faces Or are paid to be there by television. I wonder if when the programme stops , will they be willing to stay. . If they have to kill bears fir food then Perhaps they need to relocate to an area with infrastructure and social commerce, where they can live socially. Then again it doesn’t make “ good tv”” Just my opinion. .

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Yes, you are right there

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x

We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3

So they enough to control our numbers? or do we need a cull? X"

Quote was we have no natural predators, i pointed out we do. Also nature is now culling humans via the corona virus. The planet cant sustain the current population growth for long its been predicted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?"

To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat.

I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too.

I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat.

I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too.

I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?

"
These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"To be fair Shag, all animals that don’t have natural predators need to have their numbers controlled or it would get out of hand and become dangerous. As for elephants, if they weren’t controlled they’d decimate the vegetation to such an extent that other wildlife would starve to death. It’s all about managing the balance rather than killing for the sake of it.

Pity us humans have no natural predators then? x

We do, lions tigers sharks are just 3

So they enough to control our numbers? or do we need a cull? X

Quote was we have no natural predators, i pointed out we do. Also nature is now culling humans via the corona virus. The planet cant sustain the current population growth for long its been predicted."

Not really? There has allways been illnes/disease in all the animal world ! I'm not talking about natural culling! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat.

I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too.

I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?

These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there."

Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing?

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By *ear in the chairMan
over a year ago

yeah there

Agreed on the hunting bears thing being illegal

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat.

I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too.

I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?

These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there.

Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing?"

Regardless, its hard to retain any moral high ground when you eat meat and use animal byproducts

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?

To object would be hypocritical of me, as I eat meat.

I think the indiginous peoples usually have a lot of respect and understanding of the local ecosystems and only take what they need. Killing to ensure their own survival, making use of the whole animal too.

I dont really understand your objection Shag, you wouldnt be trying to make people bite now, would you?

These are not indigenous people tho, it is modern ones, where a film crew is follow their life there.

Are they genuine settlers or is it a reality thing?"
They live there and have been doing so for many years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U don’t get many bears in stoke .. "

I think it depends which clubs you frequent...

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay

I went bear hunting in my local woods, didn't see any nearly shot some doggers though

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

If its a matter of feeding your family or starving , then I have no issue with hunting .

If it's to get a kick out of shooting a defenceless animal for the fun of it , then they are Cunts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. "
That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that."
It is called alaska, the final frontier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier."

Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you extend such empathies to all animals or just the pretty furry ones ?Yes to all and as well to the elephants."

So you’re vegan then ?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

All game hunting in the USA is controlled nationally, and the dish and game depts decide on cull numbers to maintain healthy populations, they employ ecologists to decide.

You then apply for relevant permits and can only take an allocated number.

Interesting, in a country like America how this is not left in the hands of private individuals to decide.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier.

Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. "
Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier.

Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well."

I agree that it's not good to glorify hunting animals in the way that these types of shows do, and tough would be putting it lightly. I have to admit, although it's a romantic notion, I do toy with the idea of going off the grid and living off the land, but would be in warmer climate if I were to do so

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over a year ago


"I didn't realise people eat bears. Yes apparently it is a big thing there. I wonder how the bears have time to reproduce there, as a bear gives birth every 2 to 4 years.

Is it a specific type of bear being hunted? I'm sure the people of Alaska would be mindful of over hunting and fishing due to their being dependent on living off the land in a lot of cases. I may be wrong obviously, they could just be gun toting crazies..I am not sure if there is a mix of them, but they seem to get grizzly bears ther the most , they weigh alot about 315kgs, so really big bears too.

If I remember right, which I probably am not so corrections are welcome, but I don't think grizzly bears are that aggressive, compared to black or brown bears, I think it's the brown bear that really dangerous.

Think I might need to watch the show, I don't agree with killing for the sake of it, but if it's for sustenance, clothing, tools then I can live with that. That is right, they are not aggressive at all, they just hunt them for the food, not that they are attacking them or anything like that.It is called alaska, the final frontier.

Ah okay, I have watched the show, I also saw/heard a podcast of one of the guys the show "follows", and imo thought it was quite a decent show, and the guys story on how he decided to move up there and was really interesting. Not sure if people up there are killing for the sake of it, but I'm sure there will be things put into the show to make "good TV", which I'm not so keen on. Yes it is a good show too but the way the glorify the hunting is not that good but yes it makes good tv, all in all it must be a tough life up there as well.

I agree that it's not good to glorify hunting animals in the way that these types of shows do, and tough would be putting it lightly. I have to admit, although it's a romantic notion, I do toy with the idea of going off the grid and living off the land, but would be in warmer climate if I were to do so "
Yes same here, it would be fun to live like that too and yes in a lot warmer climate as it is too cold there

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I am all for killing an animal if you are going to use all of it.

I am dead set against trophy hunters, there was a youtube video of hunters laughing as they shot a bear 5 times of more.

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over a year ago

It can be a very difficult problem to "balance" local wildlife. In Colorado, if there are too many bears, they kill too many deer. If there are not enough deer, mountain lions die from starvation. Some "pseudo-ecologists" believe that no culls should happen, but if this was the case many species for various reasons would suffer. You could argue that many species would become extinct through natural order, but humankind does not want that either so we try to balance nature as best we can.

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over a year ago


"I think the lines become blurred when its you get to traditional tribes such as Inuits who are careful and and only kill what they will eat and use every part I don't have as much of a problem "

The Victorians came up with the idea of the 'Noble Savage' - the idea that indigenous people are somehow in tune with their environment and cause it no harm. As an idea it has hung around a remarkably long time - mostly because it implies humans are good and kind at heart, our problems are all the fault of us leaving our 'natural state'

The truth isn't as nice. Everywhere humans have gone there has been mass extinctions - and this goes back before our own species of human evolved. We wiped out most of the large animals in North America within a remarkably short time of arriving there - the same in Australia, Madagascar and of course Eurasia - before humans moved out of Africa the largest animals all lived on this giant continent, hard though that is to believe now with Africa being home to the 'big 5'

There is no such thing as 'living in harmony' - a wildebeest being drowned by a crocodile in the Zambesi almost certainly doesn't feel harmonious. All there is is equilibrium. Indigenous tribes are (or largely were) in equilibrium where the survival level afforded by their lifestyle matched the reproductive rate of the fauna around them. We mustn't forget that this equilibrium was only achieved after many many species had gone extinct because the ancestors of these indigenous people hunted them faster than they naturally regenerated.

We are now more aware of our impact on the world and capable of monitoring the population levels of other species.

Should people hunt? I personally cannot understand the desire to inflict pain for sport - and this goes for fishing too - but for food, why not. As long as it is done at a rate that doesn't cause a population decline I honestly cannot see the difference between eating a bear or a cow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So read that as hunting for beers should be made illegal... Was going to say: what's wrong with you man?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I sometimes watch the family in alaska, and how they say they need it for food, do you watch it too? I find it so wrong as the bears was there first and the people come there thinking they can do what they want, the bears also they have their own families too, what is your view of it?"

Are you vegan?

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

For a self subsistence lifestyle

I say yes to hunting. For sport..no!

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska "
Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there.

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over a year ago


"As with all your great threads Shag I’m in total agreement with what ever you say because your finger is always on the pulse.

T"
Ty and that is good

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there."

Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!

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over a year ago


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there.

Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!"
Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home.

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over a year ago


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there.

Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home."
It wasnt a boat, more a canoe.

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over a year ago


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there.

Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home."

Brown bears are Grizzly bears. Presume they were hunting black bears (which are often brown in colour)?

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over a year ago


"It is illegal to kill brown bears unless you are under attack in Alaska Yes I thought so too and no they werent under attack, they was hiding to aim for one one there.

Unless the bear had been attacking their livestock...I can't see how that was allowed and in film!Yes I wonder the same and no it wasnt they then took it on their boat to their home.

Brown bears are Grizzly bears. Presume they were hunting black bears (which are often brown in colour)?"
Yes it can be tricky to see the difference sometimes there.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

American people are very keen on hunting. I'd prefer a lot of hunting to stop, as well as much of our barbaric treatment of animals for the meat industry

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting points everyone

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