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"No once a cheater always a cheater " Agree ... but it doesn't make me happy | |||
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"The trust is gone...life is too short..get rid and move on.." Jodie, do you mean get rid by the cheater or a new ride? | |||
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"Oh dear. The moral policemen and women get on their uniform Don their Paisley ite uniforms and start pounding their keyboards to tell the rest of us what they think of us. Time to grab a chair I suppose " Oh get a grip ffs. My post said nothing about anything. It's just a question | |||
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"Oh dear. The moral policemen and women get on their uniform Don their Paisley ite uniforms and start pounding their keyboards to tell the rest of us what they think of us. Time to grab a chair I suppose Oh get a grip ffs. My post said nothing about anything. It's just a question " I don't think that comment was directed at you tbf | |||
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"Oh dear. The moral policemen and women get on their uniform Don their Paisley ite uniforms and start pounding their keyboards to tell the rest of us what they think of us. Time to grab a chair I suppose Oh get a grip ffs. My post said nothing about anything. It's just a question I don't think that comment was directed at you tbf" directed at himself id say | |||
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"If you love someone, forgiving them is the easy part. How can you claim to love someone and not forgive them? It is up to them to win back your trust. I know some are going to say how can you cheat if you love someone, I don't know the answer to that. But if it happens, do you throw away years of happiness due to one fuck up? Only our opinion. Happy swinging lads n lassies." | |||
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"I friend of mine who was in a relationship and he felt trapped in it because of the way she treated him and his confidence was so low but when he would come out with me and the rest of his friends he could talk to any woman and pull them no problem too Many nights he "stayed" at my house and I had no problem covering for him and saying that.. I wouldn't have called him a cheater but more an opportunist and it was completely her fault for him doing it Not everything is as it seems when guys and woman "cheat" on their partner " that's a very intelligent post very rare here | |||
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"If you love someone, forgiving them is the easy part. How can you claim to love someone and not forgive them? It is up to them to win back your trust. I know some are going to say how can you cheat if you love someone, I don't know the answer to that. But if it happens, do you throw away years of happiness due to one fuck up? Only our opinion. Happy swinging lads n lassies." the dynamique of each couple is different. And so are the reasons for cheating. Some relationships may be worth fighting for, others not. | |||
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"If you love someone, forgiving them is the easy part. How can you claim to love someone and not forgive them? It is up to them to win back your trust. I know some are going to say how can you cheat if you love someone, I don't know the answer to that. But if it happens, do you throw away years of happiness due to one fuck up? Only our opinion. Happy swinging lads n lassies. the dynamique of each couple is different. And so are the reasons for cheating. Some relationships may be worth fighting for, others not. " Spot on, I was going to post something similar myself. | |||
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"I friend of mine who was in a relationship and he felt trapped in it because of the way she treated him and his confidence was so low but when he would come out with me and the rest of his friends he could talk to any woman and pull them no problem too Many nights he "stayed" at my house and I had no problem covering for him and saying that.. I wouldn't have called him a cheater but more an opportunist and it was completely her fault for him doing it Not everything is as it seems when guys and woman "cheat" on their partner " so this man could talk to any woman except his own partner and he had so confidence yet he could still pull? he was so trapped yet he managed nights out with his mates not going home? am i reading this right? | |||
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"I friend of mine who was in a relationship and he felt trapped in it because of the way she treated him and his confidence was so low but when he would come out with me and the rest of his friends he could talk to any woman and pull them no problem too Many nights he "stayed" at my house and I had no problem covering for him and saying that.. I wouldn't have called him a cheater but more an opportunist and it was completely her fault for him doing it Not everything is as it seems when guys and woman "cheat" on their partner so this man could talk to any woman except his own partner and he had so confidence yet he could still pull? he was so trapped yet he managed nights out with his mates not going home? am i reading this right?" There's literally trapped and metaphorically trapped. Just because a guy can go out with his mates it doesnt mean his marriage is happy. | |||
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"I friend of mine who was in a relationship and he felt trapped in it because of the way she treated him and his confidence was so low but when he would come out with me and the rest of his friends he could talk to any woman and pull them no problem too Many nights he "stayed" at my house and I had no problem covering for him and saying that.. I wouldn't have called him a cheater but more an opportunist and it was completely her fault for him doing it Not everything is as it seems when guys and woman "cheat" on their partner so this man could talk to any woman except his own partner and he had so confidence yet he could still pull? he was so trapped yet he managed nights out with his mates not going home? am i reading this right? There's literally trapped and metaphorically trapped. Just because a guy can go out with his mates it doesnt mean his marriage is happy." thanks for explaining i thought he was locked in the coal house | |||
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"If you love someone, forgiving them is the easy part. How can you claim to love someone and not forgive them? It is up to them to win back your trust. I know some are going to say how can you cheat if you love someone, I don't know the answer to that. But if it happens, do you throw away years of happiness due to one fuck up? Only our opinion. Happy swinging lads n lassies." +1 | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? " only u can decide if u think the person is worth forgiving or not but you'll always have it in the back of your head is he going to do it again best of luck with it | |||
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""The weak can never forgive, forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" " | |||
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"He was locked in the metaphorical coal house in his mind Willy. " It's a dark place mostly because of the coal dust | |||
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"He was locked in the metaphorical coal house in his mind Willy. " Aye willy, cut him some "slack" will ya?? | |||
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""The weak can never forgive, forgiveness is the attribute of the strong" " | |||
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"I friend of mine who was in a relationship and he felt trapped in it because of the way she treated him and his confidence was so low but when he would come out with me and the rest of his friends he could talk to any woman and pull them no problem too Many nights he "stayed" at my house and I had no problem covering for him and saying that.. I wouldn't have called him a cheater but more an opportunist and it was completely her fault for him doing it Not everything is as it seems when guys and woman "cheat" on their partner so this man could talk to any woman except his own partner and he had so confidence yet he could still pull? he was so trapped yet he managed nights out with his mates not going home? am i reading this right? There's literally trapped and metaphorically trapped. Just because a guy can go out with his mates it doesnt mean his marriage is happy." At home she made him feel useless and worthless No matter what he did at home it was never good enough He felt he couldn't leave her coz she would stop him from seeing the kids (has since happened) When he would come out with us on the rare occasion he would go back to his old boisterous self and get brave after a few drinks Of course we didn't stop him because we knew what he would be going home to again for a few months. | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? " I don't care about why, how etc The word cheat is used because that's what it is - cheating It's a general question. I've not started a thread giving out about what people get up to, I couldn't care less, everyone has their story and reason for being here. That's fine. Was just asking a general question about whether or not people can/could/have/would forgive someone for cheating on them | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? I don't care about why, how etc The word cheat is used because that's what it is - cheating It's a general question. I've not started a thread giving out about what people get up to, I couldn't care less, everyone has their story and reason for being here. That's fine. Was just asking a general question about whether or not people can/could/have/would forgive someone for cheating on them" At least be truthful in your posts and avoid daft statements. Of course you are judging . Calling someone a cheat is full of accusation. It's not a call for debate. It's a condemnation. Plain and simple. If that's what you think then good for you. Just don't pretend it's something else | |||
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"The trust is gone...life is too short..get rid and move on.." If only life were so black and white. Feelings like sex come in many shades of gray so depending on the shade moving on may not be so easy | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? " I'll keep my opinion on what if anything is wrong in such a scenario to myself but if you are seeing someone behind your partners back - whether for emotional or physical satisfaction - it is cheating. I don't understand why people are tiptoeing around the word. It's cheating, now proceed with the debate. | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? I'll keep my opinion on what if anything is wrong in such a scenario to myself but if you are seeing someone behind your partners back - whether for emotional or physical satisfaction - it is cheating. I don't understand why people are tiptoeing around the word. It's cheating, now proceed with the debate. " | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? I'll keep my opinion on what if anything is wrong in such a scenario to myself but if you are seeing someone behind your partners back - whether for emotional or physical satisfaction - it is cheating. I don't understand why people are tiptoeing around the word. It's cheating, now proceed with the debate. " | |||
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"Why is the word "cheat" even used? Straight away it makes the "cheater" almost a bad person. There are many reasons why people form and maintain relationships and its not entirely because of sex. We all have different sex drives. What would you advise a healthy wife to do if her husband who she loved was unable to have or had zero interest in sex. What is wrong if she stays in her loving relationship but gets her sexual satisfaction elsewhere? I'll keep my opinion on what if anything is wrong in such a scenario to myself but if you are seeing someone behind your partners back - whether for emotional or physical satisfaction - it is cheating. I don't understand why people are tiptoeing around the word. It's cheating, now proceed with the debate. " | |||
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"I think cheating is a lot more prevalent than we may think. I've met two married women before and I could have easily slept with them if I had felt so inclined. Also, every other week I have to listen to one of my friends saying how they got off with some married women they met the night before. I think if you're not happy with a relationship you should grow a pair of figurative balls and say it, wheather it be that the sex isn't good enough or their partner is emotionally detached or whatever. It's the snaking around that bothers me " Absolutely right - it takes maturity and the power to make your own decisions and decide that commitment is commitmemt and crossing the line of temptation just isn't an option. Cheating is down to a lack of communication - which is itself, a bad sign for a couple. That's where the rot starts and doubts creep in and where uncertainty develops. Numerous, complex reasons why cheating happens so it's not a simple moral issue whereby we "forgive" the transgressor in all cases because it's 5he right thing to do. They should be forgiven only if they have earned the right to be forgiven...e.g. ,If they are cheating repeatedly, it sounds like committed relationships aren't for them - no point forgiving someone who's lack of self-knowledge or neediness will just make them fuck your head up again and again... | |||
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"Oh dear. The moral policemen and women get on their uniform Don their Paisley ite uniforms and start pounding their keyboards to tell the rest of us what they think of us. Time to grab a chair I suppose " | |||
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"That escalated quickly Can't we all just agree that cheetahs are lovely " Don't mind the cheetahs, just don't understand the lion. | |||
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"That escalated quickly Can't we all just agree that cheetahs are lovely Don't mind the cheetahs, just don't understand the lion. " | |||
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"I just love these guys climbing to the top of the nearest hill and thumping their bare chests with the certainty that only vacant ignorance can bring. The clear reasoning that comes from having no clue. It's the same ignorance that has the same pass judgement on strangers. The same ignorance that spawns the abuse that is sent on this site. You have no clue because you don't know the person you are passing judgement on. So next time you are at a party with other swingers make sure you check the ring finger of the guy or gal you have your cock or pussy attached to for fear they might be cheating. Cos you don't want to be complicit now do you? I knew when this was posted the moralistic morons would be out in force. The ones who like to judge and sneer. Who come up with ignorant slogans such as it's cheating let the debate begin. How dumb is that? Let me suggest a more workable slogan Don't judge me cos my sins are not your sins. .." | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? " Cheating happens for a reason. From personal experience it helped my marriage as we both realised it was worth the effort..... And we discovered and enjoyed swinging x No happy endings here but that's a whole other story x | |||
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"So if married men or women are on this site and there partners don't know is that a crime. Maybe they just want to explore there sexual side more . " | |||
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"The trust is gone...life is too short..get rid and move on.. If only life were so black and white. Feelings like sex come in many shades of gray so depending on the shade moving on may not be so easy " Totally agree. this topic comes up quite regularly doesn't it. Do you take back someone who has strayed? It depends on how hurt you are by it. Will they do it again? Probably, but it might take years before it happens again. My partner has cheated but I've gotten over it on more than one occasion. TBH I'd like to be there when she's with another man but she's not into swinging. Maybe I'm a bit shallow ?? We've got a strong relationships and great home and family, in my opinion a bit of strange doesn't have to come between 2 people. Just saying | |||
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"That escalated quickly Can't we all just agree that cheetahs are lovely " | |||
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" I personally would rather a partner pay for sex than have an emotional affaire with someone. " Is this not the same thing? Your still going behind your partners back to get your kicks. Cheating is cheating. I think an emotional affair (without actually meeting anyone) could be just has damaging be it through text, Facebook, Skype or fab as your not giving 100% to your own relationship! | |||
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"i was married and had often suggested to him about going swinging but he was horrified so he decided it was much better to have a affair behind my back and lots more fun i decided it would he would be much better as a ex husband .... and iv not looked back since " | |||
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"I just love these guys climbing to the top of the nearest hill and thumping their bare chests with the certainty that only vacant ignorance can bring. The clear reasoning that comes from having no clue. It's the same ignorance that has the same pass judgement on strangers. The same ignorance that spawns the abuse that is sent on this site. You have no clue because you don't know the person you are passing judgement on. So next time you are at a party with other swingers make sure you check the ring finger of the guy or gal you have your cock or pussy attached to for fear they might be cheating. Cos you don't want to be complicit now do you? I knew when this was posted the moralistic morons would be out in force. The ones who like to judge and sneer. Who come up with ignorant slogans such as it's cheating let the debate begin. How dumb is that? Let me suggest a more workable slogan Don't judge me cos my sins are not your sins. .." | |||
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"I just love these guys climbing to the top of the nearest hill and thumping their bare chests with the certainty that only vacant ignorance can bring. The clear reasoning that comes from having no clue. It's the same ignorance that has the same pass judgement on strangers. The same ignorance that spawns the abuse that is sent on this site. You have no clue because you don't know the person you are passing judgement on. So next time you are at a party with other swingers make sure you check the ring finger of the guy or gal you have your cock or pussy attached to for fear they might be cheating. Cos you don't want to be complicit now do you? I knew when this was posted the moralistic morons would be out in force. The ones who like to judge and sneer. Who come up with ignorant slogans such as it's cheating let the debate begin. How dumb is that? Let me suggest a more workable slogan Don't judge me cos my sins are not your sins. .. " | |||
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"I think the op first post is not about cheating whether its right or wrong but about forgiveness ?" That's the way I read it | |||
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"I think the op first post is not about cheating whether its right or wrong but about forgiveness ?" Agreed.... I think the original intent was to explore whether people who have been cheated on can/should forgive the cheaper. Well that is how I tried to answer the question anyway. | |||
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"I think the op first post is not about cheating whether its right or wrong but about forgiveness ? Agreed.... I think the original intent was to explore whether people who have been cheated on can/should forgive the cheaper. Well that is how I tried to answer the question anyway." That was exactly it but as usual on here you can't have a general discussion without people taking things far too personally and thinking they're personally being attacked | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. " Shut the door after you there's the good man. | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. " A fiver is keeping you here?? | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. A fiver is keeping you here?? " ah now come on its £ 10 and thats sterling not euros | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. " They respect that you're cheating? You should stick with them so, we would prefer to meet other couples who are swinging together as a couple. | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. A fiver is keeping you here?? ah now come on its £ 10 and thats sterling not euros" Ah well in that case sure you'd have to stay and just put up with being outraged and indignant! | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? " Just a reminder of the op!!! | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Just a reminder of the op!!! " nice try Kim | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Just a reminder of the op!!! nice try Kim " i'm getting tired of rolling my eyes | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Just a reminder of the op!!! nice try Kim i'm getting tired of rolling my eyes " Thanks Kim.won't work though. People see what they want to and that's it | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Just a reminder of the op!!! nice try Kim i'm getting tired of rolling my eyes Thanks Kim.won't work though. People see what they want to and that's it " .......which is a pity as its a very interesting topic and Id love to see it explored and discussed more. Theres not too many people who havent experienced it and to see how various people have dealt with it can/could be enlightening and/or helpful. | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. Shut the door after you there's the good man." with people like you here gladley | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. They respect that you're cheating? You should stick with them so, we would prefer to meet other couples who are swinging together as a couple. " atleast they have respect, and accept people for who they are no like the bull shit that goes on here | |||
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"I think we are into the whole separation of love and sex issue here aren't we? If people can can separate sex from love then the whole topic becomes a moot point.. However if we as swingers cant separate the two then there's trouble ahead.. good topic though." If you love someone and cheat on them are they not going to get hurt? Would you intentionally hurt someone you love??? | |||
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"I am on a few sites some if them dating and I find people on them respect that I'm married and out looking for sex with others. I am on this swinging site ?? and omg I have never met so many bitchy people, for f@@k sake people it's a site for meeting up for sex. We are all here for one thing, if your against people who are married and want to explore their sexuality them maybe it's you who has the problem not them. Can't wait till my site supporter fee runs out that's all that's keeping me here. Shut the door after you there's the good man.with people like you here gladley " Cheerios then ....have a nice life living your lie xx | |||
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"If you love someone and cheat on them are they not going to get hurt? " They have to get caught first. | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? " Some can learn from their mistakes and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they cheated, why they cheated or will they cheat again but if there's love involved then who knows what a couple can over come | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Some can learn from their mistakes and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they cheated, why they cheated or will they cheat again but if there's love involved then who knows what a couple can over come" As I stated above if there is love involved would u intentionally hurt someone you love????? | |||
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"If you love someone and cheat on them are they not going to get hurt? They have to get caught first. " Why take the risk? If you love someone you would do anything to protect them and you wouldn't intentionally take the risk of hurting them. | |||
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"If you love someone and cheat on them are they not going to get hurt? They have to get caught first. Why take the risk? If you love someone you would do anything to protect them and you wouldn't intentionally take the risk of hurting them. " Tell that to the cheaters. I want nothing to do with them. | |||
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"Let's say Someone cheats on you, do you take them back? Once a cheater always a cheater? Or do people learn from their mistakes? Some can learn from their mistakes and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they cheated, why they cheated or will they cheat again but if there's love involved then who knows what a couple can over come As I stated above if there is love involved would u intentionally hurt someone you love?????" And as I stated, you don't know the circumstances of who,what,when,where or why. | |||
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"Woohoo! Luvvin the thread folks! " Yeah.....went exactly as planned | |||
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"Woohoo! Luvvin the thread folks! Yeah.....went exactly as planned " It's the chaos theory lady......... | |||
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"Woohoo! Luvvin the thread folks! Yeah.....went exactly as planned It's the chaos theory lady......... " maybe not I just might stick around to be certain people a hard time hahahaha | |||
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"Woohoo! Luvvin the thread folks! Yeah.....went exactly as planned It's the chaos theory lady......... maybe not I just might stick around to be certain people a hard time hahahaha " What a lovely way to paint yourself.... Good luck on here! | |||
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