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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Who knows the meaning of the word FUCK? And the origin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge?

and no i dont. (and i didnt even google that.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fornication inder command of king

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Under*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't have a clue Dutch but let's find our own meaning for the word!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge?

and no i dont. (and i didnt even google that.)"
this is the cirrect meaning but i dont know the origin

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Fornication inder command of king"
yes. Fornicate Under Command of the King!!! Which king was it?Probably some English fella

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge?

and no i dont. (and i didnt even google that.)this is the cirrect meaning but i dont know the origin"

It was on the charge sheet during the last century for alleged rapists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English king. George 5th springs to mind but its probaly wrong

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"English king. George 5th springs to mind but its probaly wrong "
is fornication rape tho? It was probably meant for the soldiers and it was a command....

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By *ocbrownMan
over a year ago

Kilkenny/Waterford

was it not something to do with World war 2.

an aroplane called the focker the Nazi used to fly them, and everyone shouted the fuckers are coming the fuckers are coming

and that's 100% true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is from 1400s and was used as it was today as a discriptive work for intercourse

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By *harlie141r42Man
over a year ago

galway

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By *harlie141r42Man
over a year ago

galway

The two most likely accepted origin are from the German ficken (to copulate) or the Dutch fokken (to breed).

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By *avie tCouple
over a year ago

otherside of nowhere

anglo saxon slang word fornication

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The two most likely accepted origin are from the German ficken (to copulate) or the Dutch fokken (to breed)."

fokken hot profile pic there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The two most likely accepted origin are from the German ficken (to copulate) or the Dutch fokken (to breed)."
yes fokken is Dutch allright... I know lol!;-)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe the 1st recorded use was in a 15th century Scottish poem but there is no definitive answer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I believe the 1st recorded use was in a 15th century Scottish poem but there is no definitive answer."

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

Ah Fuck it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh, this was on QI a while back, the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Fornication Under Order of King are BS I think, well QI said so anyway. Some scandanavian or German for pushing or something like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh, this was on QI a while back, the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Fornication Under Order of King are BS I think, well QI said so anyway. Some scandanavian or German for pushing or something like that"

Hang on!

http://old.qi.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=177721

Spurious etymology

Some of you have no doubt heard that the word fuck is acronymic in origin - usually alleged to stand for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, a thing supposed either written above the stocks if one were being invited to throw cabbages at an adulterer, or chalked on the cell door of one being held by the US Police for that offence in the 1920s. Utter nonsense, as acronymic etymologies usually are.

Equally acronymic and equally untrue is the suggestion that it stood for Fornication Under Consent of the King. Supposedly, in some unspecified bygone age, one needed royal consent to indulge in intercourse, and if this was granted one received a placard to place outside the room where intimacy was occurring.

Real etymology

The true etymology isn't completely certain, because what with being impolite, the word was spoken rather more than it was written down. The OED's first citation is from 1503, although it seems to have been used a bit earlier than that in a poem written in a mixture of bad Latin and Middle English, tentatively dated to around 1480. The said poem states "non sunt in celi quia fuccant uuiuys of heli" (they are not in Heaven because they are fucking the wives of Ely) - referring to some less than holy monks. Sources also note that a man named John le Fucker is recorded as living in London in 1278.

Anyways, the word may in fact come from a Scandinavian word meaning "to push", another Scandinavian word meaning "penis", a German word meaning "to scratch", a Latin word meaning "to knock" or any or all of the above. No one really knows, but it's entirely possible to give a whole 50 minute lecture exploring all of these possibilities and a few others besides. I should know ...

Incidentally, while on the subject of dictionaries, the OED didn't see fit to include the big bad word until as late as 1989. Indeed, until the Chatterley judgment (R v Penguin Books Limited, 1961), any book including it would have run the risk of being considered obscene had it included the word.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"oh, this was on QI a while back, the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Fornication Under Order of King are BS I think, well QI said so anyway. Some scandanavian or German for pushing or something like that

Hang on!

http://old.qi.com/talk/viewtopic.php? p=177721

Spurious etymology

Some of you have no doubt heard that the word fuck is acronymic in origin - usually alleged to stand for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, a thing supposed either written above the stocks if one were being invited to throw cabbages at an adulterer, or chalked on the cell door of one being held by the US Police for that offence in the 1920s. Utter nonsense, as acronymic etymologies usually are.

Equally acronymic and equally untrue is the suggestion that it stood for Fornication Under Consent of the King. Supposedly, in some unspecified bygone age, one needed royal consent to indulge in intercourse, and if this was granted one received a placard to place outside the room where intimacy was occurring.

Real etymology

The true etymology isn't completely certain, because what with being impolite, the word was spoken rather more than it was written down. The OED's first citation is from 1503, although it seems to have been used a bit earlier than that in a poem written in a mixture of bad Latin and Middle English, tentatively dated to around 1480. The said poem states "non sunt in celi quia fuccant uuiuys of heli" (they are not in Heaven because they are fucking the wives of Ely) - referring to some less than holy monks. Sources also note that a man named John le Fucker is recorded as living in London in 1278.

Anyways, the word may in fact come from a Scandinavian word meaning "to push", another Scandinavian word meaning "penis", a German word meaning "to scratch", a Latin word meaning "to knock" or any or all of the above. No one really knows, but it's entirely possible to give a whole 50 minute lecture exploring all of these possibilities and a few others besides. I should know ...

Incidentally, while on the subject of dictionaries, the OED didn't see fit to include the big bad word until as late as 1989. Indeed, until the Chatterley judgment (R v Penguin Books Limited, 1961), any book including it would have run the risk of being considered obscene had it included the word. "
thanks! I find that interesting! A word we use so much and not one clear explanation. Thanks elaborate info though! Anyone that done a PhD on the matter?

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By *itan79Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In the Middle

Its derived from a Gemanic word...can't recall the context of it exactly..but have to say its my favorite terminology for getting jiggy lol

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