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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep

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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago

East Manchester

Yes. I'm separated and have my child staying with me.

What I do is my affair, but I'm not going to invite people over in case it upsets my son, or it gets back to his mother.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Loads of people are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people aren’t fussed, some are..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

God point. Just wish that those who are fussed in a judgemental way would stay clear of those having fun ??

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples. "

Obviously no respect or thought given to the partner being cheated on.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "

Do you OP? Are you referring to women you have written to or are people writing to you to preach ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"God point. Just wish that those who are fussed in a judgemental way would stay clear of those having fun ??"

People judge, it's human nature.

We tend not to explain or justify our actions and ignore anybody who finds it necessary to criticise.

If you make a point of asking for opinions on your marital status then it's open season but if you just quietly go about your business it's nothing to do with anybody else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "
they live at top of hill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples.

Obviously no respect or thought given to the partner being cheated on. "

This

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By *icplshropsCouple
over a year ago

Rock


"God point. Just wish that those who are fussed in a judgemental way would stay clear of those having fun ??

People judge, it's human nature.

We tend not to explain or justify our actions and ignore anybody who finds it necessary to criticise.

If you make a point of asking for opinions on your marital status then it's open season but if you just quietly go about your business it's nothing to do with anybody else"

This^^ What you write online, whether it be in the forum or your profile, is likely to be subjected to criticism. If this thread is referring to you being on here without your partner’s knowledge, it’s wise to tell people from the beginning this, so they can make an informed decision. Furthermore, threads like these are not a good idea, because then, you are inviting criticism.

J

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We wouldn't be judgemental.

We would just not engage in chat with you.

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By *heEvilWithinWoman
over a year ago

Barnsley

It's not really the case of the moral highground. It's more that some people don't believe in cheating. Just because you do doesn't mean everyone has to agree. I don't agree with monogamy but I also wouldn't cheat without my partners knowledge.

If someone finds out you've been cheating that'd hurt more than saying you weren't happy with your sex life and being honest. It also destroys families and some people have deep psychological issues of being rejected when someone cheats. (I did relationship counselling so have seen the devastation)

OK some people want to take the moral highground but for me I just don't meet cheaters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If god had intended man/woman to stay with one man/woman then he wouldn’t have invented better men/women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Very high percentage I imagine...

Question is, what can you give to a single fem without sacrifices being made by her?

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

From my POV I think it took a lot for me to speak to my partners and explain the type of relationship that suited me.

I don’t want others to involve me in any sneaking around. I just want to swing openly.

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By *merald Eyes XWoman
over a year ago

Can you find me….

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By *merald Eyes XWoman
over a year ago

Can you find me….


"If god had intended man/woman to stay with one man/woman then he wouldn’t have invented better men/women "

That’s why swinging was invented.....

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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago

rochdale oldham border


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Yes

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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago

rochdale oldham border


"God point. Just wish that those who are fussed in a judgemental way would stay clear of those having fun ??

People judge, it's human nature.

We tend not to explain or justify our actions and ignore anybody who finds it necessary to criticise.

If you make a point of asking for opinions on your marital status then it's open season but if you just quietly go about your business it's nothing to do with anybody else"

True story

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

We will continue to reject anyone who messages us and tries to get us to help them cheat on their partner. Male or female.

However.. at least those people are honest on here about their dishonesty at home.

How many people on here have unknowingly helped a husband or wife cheat while their partner was home with the kids, doing their washing? Dragging other people into your cheating behaviour is disgusting.

Eitherway, being on here without a partners knowledge and permission is wrong. Cheating is wrong. Either fix your relationship or leave. And yes, that's said from experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago

rochdale oldham border

Just to confirm and not to be judged as we all have our reasons I’m here with out the consent of my partner

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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago

rochdale oldham border


"Just to confirm and not to be judged as we all have our reasons I’m here with out the consent of my partner "
I’m also wanting to meet a nice couple if anyone is interested in chatting?

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By *heEvilWithinWoman
over a year ago

Barnsley


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer. "

And what reasons can you say justify the fact you cheat? I mean if we're honest.. None.

Don't get sex at home?

Disabled partner who can't have sex?

High sex drive

Not sexually compatible

Not happy in relationship

Not attracted to partner

In love with partner but just need fun?

Which of those are OK? I've heard them all before

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By *heEvilWithinWoman
over a year ago

Barnsley

Just to play devil's advocate.

I don't actually really care if people cheat but I just don't want to be a part of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

And what reasons can you say justify the fact you cheat? I mean if we're honest.. None.

Don't get sex at home?

Disabled partner who can't have sex?

High sex drive

Not sexually compatible

Not happy in relationship

Not attracted to partner

In love with partner but just need fun?

Which of those are OK? I've heard them all before "

We would like to hear his reason too.

As we have heard all the above also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will continue to reject anyone who messages us and tries to get us to help them cheat on their partner. Male or female.

However.. at least those people are honest on here about their dishonesty at home.

How many people on here have unknowingly helped a husband or wife cheat while their partner was home with the kids, doing their washing? Dragging other people into your cheating behaviour is disgusting.

Eitherway, being on here without a partners knowledge and permission is wrong. Cheating is wrong. Either fix your relationship or leave. And yes, that's said from experience. "

Yes me, I've helped a married man along! Must be a few more too... because I play in the clubs and for some strange reason, I get side-tracked and forget to ask if wifey is at home, watching the soaps ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will continue to reject anyone who messages us and tries to get us to help them cheat on their partner. Male or female.

However.. at least those people are honest on here about their dishonesty at home.

How many people on here have unknowingly helped a husband or wife cheat while their partner was home with the kids, doing their washing? Dragging other people into your cheating behaviour is disgusting.

Eitherway, being on here without a partners knowledge and permission is wrong. Cheating is wrong. Either fix your relationship or leave. And yes, that's said from experience.

Yes me, I've helped a married man along! Must be a few more too... because I play in the clubs and for some strange reason, I get side-tracked and forget to ask if wifey is at home, watching the soaps .... "

... In other words, I just don't bloody care. For once in my life, I'm not giving a hoot who does what and if they're allowed. At last I'm thinking about my own need... oh and FUN!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We both used to be, but we left out marriages, and now do it together, it’s ace to be open, honest, and really into it,

But having been there, we just don’t judge....

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By *ohnny4playMan
over a year ago

Kinross

I've been there.

Divorce now complete, but I would still like to keep my private life private, especially from potentially vindictive ex!

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Hundreds !

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"If god had intended man/woman to stay with one man/woman then he wouldn’t have invented better men/women "

Yes but, move on and be respectful. Give the partner a choice of staying or going.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Shit loads & most of them say “Single” on the profile

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer. "

Judging you kind of assumes your wife is being faithful. I don't know that, do I? Do you?

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By *ady23Woman
over a year ago

Coventry


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples.

Obviously no respect or thought given to the partner being cheated on. "

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Some really interesting, and varied, perspectives.

Several themes come through:

But a particularly interesting one is "why don't you ask your partner what they think?".

That's a valid question.

And its a bit like saying "should you ask a child if they would like to be told that Santa Claus isn't real or not?". The similarity is that both are otherwise perpetuating an untruth about a situation. And by asking the question its revealing the untruth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples. "

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Some really interesting, and varied, perspectives.

Several themes come through:

But a particularly interesting one is "why don't you ask your partner what they think?".

That's a valid question.

And its a bit like saying "should you ask a child if they would like to be told that Santa Claus isn't real or not?". The similarity is that both are otherwise perpetuating an untruth about a situation. And by asking the question its revealing the untruth.

"

It's not really the same thing though is it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It's about whether you burst a bubble or not.

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By *iss Penny TrationWoman
over a year ago

NW


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Plenty. Unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to be... Although coming to this site was what I needed to realise that actually a full committed relationship wasn't for me (well this wonderful place and my job) at the moment, so I had the hardest conversation of my life and ended what on the outside was a perfectly good relationship and haven't looked back since not trying to jump on a moral hight horse but I'd rather have broken her heart being honest it wasn't for me than by her finding out I was looking to go off behind her back. And I feel much the better moving forward as a single person for it but people do things for all kinds of reasons, I'm not here to judge, just to add my penny's worth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignore the lack of punctuation please it's late and it's Friday

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

My wife is.

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By *jpcockMan
over a year ago

Nuneaton

Happily married to wife but I've got a high sex drive

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By *y secretWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

Me!

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By *iss Penny TrationWoman
over a year ago

NW

Proper knocks me sick the hurt this causes because of selfishness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess because the site is called fab swingers and the definition of swinging is :-

Swinging (sexual practice), when partners in a committed relationship engage in sexual activities with others with the consent of the other partner.

So maybe they’d question if you were actually swinging ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From my POV I think it took a lot for me to speak to my partners and explain the type of relationship that suited me.

I don’t want others to involve me in any sneaking around. I just want to swing openly. "

This goes for me too. I wish more people would have the big, difficult and honest conversations with their partners around sex.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's about whether you burst a bubble or not. "

That's an interesting way of looking at it.

I'm not particularly concerned about your situation as such, you've made your choice and have your reasons but I wonder how far your partner is complicit in maintaining the bubble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

And what reasons can you say justify the fact you cheat? I mean if we're honest.. None.

Don't get sex at home?

Disabled partner who can't have sex?

High sex drive

Not sexually compatible

Not happy in relationship

Not attracted to partner

In love with partner but just need fun?

Which of those are OK? I've heard them all before "

Why does he or anyone else have to justify anything to anyone? He made his choice, you can make yours.

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By *layfulexplorers2Couple
over a year ago

Bath

1. We don't want to be involved in hurting someone else.

2. If you are playing behind your partners back then you are not a trustworthy person. We don't want to be involved with anyone untrustworthy.

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Ohhh how do you manage that chip on your shoulder?

Google "consensual" non monogamy. You choose to lie rather than manning up

Yup I judge you and take the moral high ground. Your partner doesn't consent to sti' s just cos you are a coward or can't accept that wanking is sufficient

If you want sex with other people and don't discuss it with your partner that's your issue - man up or buy a box of tissues

Ms Icebreaker

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples. "

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"Happily married to wife but I've got a high sex drive "

Your wife probably does too - maybe you just aren't that good at sex?

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By *iss Penny TrationWoman
over a year ago

NW


"Happily married to wife but I've got a high sex drive

Your wife probably does too - maybe you just aren't that good at sex?

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

In explanation of why we don’t play with cheaters

For Kitty, it’s a moral issue. She doesn’t want to be part of it.

For the Boy it’s safety. I don’t want an irate husband trying to fight me. Or an irate wife coming over and damaging my car etc...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Can someone give us a nudge when we get to the "but why is it different for women, double standards blah de blah" bit please cos we have an answer to that

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!


"Can someone give us a nudge when we get to the "but why is it different for women, double standards blah de blah" bit please cos we have an answer to that "

“But why is it different etc etc”

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

nottingham

No hiding anything single

Looking to try quest first time tomorrow

Anyone else like to try quest or already going to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "

Well maybe look at it from the outside

We and lots of others don't want to become home wreckers and it's not saying much good about a person for standards or respect for others if they are willing to cheat or lie to the people closest to them!

we don't change the rule if it's a woman or a man either.

Is not a moral high ground here's a diffinitive guide

Having sex with other people with partners knowledge can be classed as swinging

Having sex with other people without telling or permission from partners is quiet clearly an affair!

Maybe these people need fab affairs dot com PMSL

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By *appyguys2Couple
over a year ago

London

Nope, we are both in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just because someone won't meet an attached person doesn't necessarily mean they're judging them I think it's each person living by their own moral code

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will continue to reject anyone who messages us and tries to get us to help them cheat on their partner. Male or female.

However.. at least those people are honest on here about their dishonesty at home.

How many people on here have unknowingly helped a husband or wife cheat while their partner was home with the kids, doing their washing? Dragging other people into your cheating behaviour is disgusting.

Eitherway, being on here without a partners knowledge and permission is wrong. Cheating is wrong. Either fix your relationship or leave. And yes, that's said from experience. "

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By *layfulexplorers2Couple
over a year ago

Bath


"Just because someone won't meet an attached person doesn't necessarily mean they're judging them I think it's each person living by their own moral code "
Exactly our thoughts. We occasionally meet separately because we have slightly differing drives and kink interests (her: rope bunny, me: sub leanings) but its always with the others knowledge and encouragement. Not for everyone we know but if you have a good open and honest relationship then ethical non monogamy is possible but only if you're prepared to have those difficult conversations to open up your relationship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In explanation of why we don’t play with cheaters

For Kitty, it’s a moral issue. She doesn’t want to be part of it.

For the Boy it’s safety. I don’t want an irate husband trying to fight me. Or an irate wife coming over and damaging my car etc..."

Totally agree.

We know a couple who unwittingly met a married man. Weeks later his wife found his fab account going through his phone so she saw all the messages which included the couples naughty pictures and address. The majority of that wife's hurt was directed at the couple not her scumbag lying husband. It was that bad, she turned up at the couples work place, the police were involved, she was charged and convicted on various offences and restraining orders had to be put in place.

I love to know what those who come to fab and cheat thoughts are about that?

What would there wife / husband do in the same situation if they got hold of thier fab account etc.

If you are going to cheat then at least be fully up from about it on your profile so people who may meet you can make an informed choice!

KJ x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Half the site are married and playing away, that’s up to them....personally I’m a swinger...cheating and swinging to me are different things...makes it hard to sift out the swingers from the cheats though...

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By *irstTime4everythingCouple
over a year ago

Reading

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By *irstTime4everythingCouple
over a year ago

Reading


"Half the site are married and playing away, that’s up to them....personally I’m a swinger...cheating and swinging to me are different things...makes it hard to sift out the swingers from the cheats though..."

Well said, this is a swingers site not cheaters site. People who chose not to mess with those with partners that play with permission or knowledge do so to avoid drama not coz they are being fussy. Cheaters that call themselves swingers are only confusing themselves, there are plenty of sites out there that accommodate cheaters, maybe you should better go crack on there?

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By *ensual mMan
over a year ago

conwy

I come under this heading and clearly state what im doing in my profile. Id rather be upfront from the beginning then its not an awkward situation later on. Granted it hasnt done me any favours but im ok with that.

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op??

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By *irstTime4everythingCouple
over a year ago

Reading


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op?? "

Good question, we were talking to a guy who told us he was playing with her knowledge and when we ask why he doesn't try get her involved and he said he'd never allow her to play.

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By *layfulexplorers2Couple
over a year ago

Bath


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op??

Good question, we were talking to a guy who told us he was playing with her knowledge and when we ask why he doesn't try get her involved and he said he'd never allow her to play. "
What an arsehole!!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


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Good question, we were talking to a guy who told us he was playing with her knowledge and when we ask why he doesn't try get her involved and he said he'd never allow her to play. "

We were talking to a guy in a club once and it was obvious from his questions that he was married. When I asked him where his wife was he said "she wouldn't come here, she's not a slag"!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


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Good question, we were talking to a guy who told us he was playing with her knowledge and when we ask why he doesn't try get her involved and he said he'd never allow her to play.

We were talking to a guy in a club once and it was obvious from his questions that he was married. When I asked him where his wife was he said "she wouldn't come here, she's not a slag"!"

you have to laugh. We were talking to a guy once and he said "I'd never do this in a relationship" the implication being that it's wrong.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


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you have to laugh. We were talking to a guy once and he said "I'd never do this in a relationship" the implication being that it's wrong. "

I'm sure they've all read "How to talk yourself out of a good fuck" by Sad Swinger

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By *layfulexplorers2Couple
over a year ago

Bath

Jeez, we've been lucky !!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


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you have to laugh. We were talking to a guy once and he said "I'd never do this in a relationship" the implication being that it's wrong.

I'm sure they've all read "How to talk yourself out of a good fuck" by Sad Swinger "

Lol. I was on the verge of lowering our age limit for him too.

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Op we still haven't had the answer to our question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I come under this heading and clearly state what im doing in my profile. Id rather be upfront from the beginning then its not an awkward situation later on. Granted it hasnt done me any favours but im ok with that. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op?? "
imho, if she’s happy, I’m happy. I don’t own my wife. And she doesn’t own me. The choices we make, we own. Don’t really care what anyone else thinks about that. Im Not forcing anyone to meet me - don’t bother trying to force your views on anyone else.

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


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Good question, we were talking to a guy who told us he was playing with her knowledge and when we ask why he doesn't try get her involved and he said he'd never allow her to play.

We were talking to a guy in a club once and it was obvious from his questions that he was married. When I asked him where his wife was he said "she wouldn't come here, she's not a slag"!"

Hed have got a sharp slap

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op?? imho, if she’s happy, I’m happy. I don’t own my wife. And she doesn’t own me. The choices we make, we own. Don’t really care what anyone else thinks about that. Im Not forcing anyone to meet me - don’t bother trying to force your views on anyone else."

We aren't forcing anything just like to know if the boot was on the other foot how would he feel

So slow down tonto

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By *OXO2018Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

We only meet at clubs and it's not a question that comes up. If we liked the person we'd still play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op?? imho, if she’s happy, I’m happy. I don’t own my wife. And she doesn’t own me. The choices we make, we own. Don’t really care what anyone else thinks about that. Im Not forcing anyone to meet me - don’t bother trying to force your views on anyone else.

We aren't forcing anything just like to know if the boot was on the other foot how would he feel

So slow down tonto"

Fair comment merry Xmas to you both.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Happily married to wife but I've got a high sex drive "

Wank

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Happily married to wife but I've got a high sex drive

Wank "

Nah it's much easier to create a single profile and cheat on your partner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just because someone won't meet an attached person doesn't necessarily mean they're judging them I think it's each person living by their own moral code "

It’s not a moral thing for me but Iv been on the receiving end of screaming wife phone calls at 3am when he’s been found out...more than once too...so steer clear whenever possible now...it wasn’t pretty lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Yes. Before/when we got married she was quite open minded but then she found God (no really) and all I get if any is missionary. It's a good place to vent.

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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago

rochdale oldham border


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "
oh don’t date say your on here without permission from your partner or the god squad will abuse you as they are all perfect and do no wrong lol get a grip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

no but there are many on here hiding from the truth

perhaps they should all be politicians as they lie threefold

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

having spoken to a few and gotten some kind of click going on then hopes are dashed

do you mind if I am married but wife or gf does not know

and I am not here hiding behind a wall

never cheated

never will

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

Yes. Before/when we got married she was quite open minded but then she found God (no really) and all I get if any is missionary. It's a good place to vent. "

Nothing wrong with missionary, it's the only way I cum from penetration.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

I don’t particularly judge people that cheat and lie. I just really don’t want them in my life.

When I am at a club it’s slightly different as I will probably never see them again. Then they just have to not be a complete dick!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most of the single men who say they can’t accommodate

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? oh don’t date say your on here without permission from your partner or the god squad will abuse you as they are all perfect and do no wrong lol get a grip "

We aren't potentially destroying someone's life though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? oh don’t date say your on here without permission from your partner or the god squad will abuse you as they are all perfect and do no wrong lol get a grip

We aren't potentially destroying someone's life though "

Hearing all the cheaters whining because they are being "judged" cracks me up. This is nothing compared to when their partner finds out, then their kids, families, friends and colleagues...

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"Hundreds !"

more like thousands..

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


"Hundreds !

more like thousands.."

And thousands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me, wife is in India

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By *elenshubbyMan
over a year ago

Uxbridge

me

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? oh don’t date say your on here without permission from your partner or the god squad will abuse you as they are all perfect and do no wrong lol get a grip

We aren't potentially destroying someone's life though

Hearing all the cheaters whining because they are being "judged" cracks me up. This is nothing compared to when their partner finds out, then their kids, families, friends and colleagues... "

Yep, my mum had a complete breakdown and ended up in a psychiatric hospital.

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By *irstTime4everythingCouple
over a year ago

Reading


"We'd just like to know. how you'd feel if you found out she was cheating on you or if you found her on a profile with a male fb how would that make you feel op?? imho, if she’s happy, I’m happy. I don’t own my wife. And she doesn’t own me. The choices we make, we own. Don’t really care what anyone else thinks about that. Im Not forcing anyone to meet me - don’t bother trying to force your views on anyone else."

Wow, starting to get a picture of you now, best of luck to you big boy

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

We dont play with people cheating for a few reasons.

1. Morality, this is something we do together.

2. Safety of jobs and our child. Nothing worse than a scorned upset partner.

3. The damage it can cause to families and all those involved.

4. K was the other woman several years ago and it never ends well. To add this wasnt with C

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By *limBobStretchedPantsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

Gonna be hundreds if not thousands lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most of the single men who say they can’t accommodate "

Not all!

XxxX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

Yes. Before/when we got married she was quite open minded but then she found God (no really) and all I get if any is missionary. It's a good place to vent. "

I know for a fact that there are very religious swingers out there. Adventurous sex isn’t incompatible with faith. There are other drivers at work there and maybe you need a good conversation.

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

We don't claim to have higher moral values, we do have, than you clearly. We don't meet cowards. Man up and talk to your wife.

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

On your profile you say you don't get love and sex mixed up. Someone who loves their wife doesn't lie to her. You don't know what love is.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

To answer the OP's question, does a bear shit in the woods?

KM

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By *aulupforitMan
over a year ago

Corbridge


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "

Swinging is Swinging and Cheating is Cheating.

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Swinging is Swinging and Cheating is Cheating. "

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

Yes. Before/when we got married she was quite open minded but then she found God (no really) and all I get if any is missionary. It's a good place to vent. "

So talk to her!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

Yes. Before/when we got married she was quite open minded but then she found God (no really) and all I get if any is missionary. It's a good place to vent. "

That's just an excuse, and a really shitty one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will continue to reject anyone who messages us and tries to get us to help them cheat on their partner. Male or female.

However.. at least those people are honest on here about their dishonesty at home.

How many people on here have unknowingly helped a husband or wife cheat while their partner was home with the kids, doing their washing? Dragging other people into your cheating behaviour is disgusting.

Eitherway, being on here without a partners knowledge and permission is wrong. Cheating is wrong. Either fix your relationship or leave. And yes, that's said from experience. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

And what reasons can you say justify the fact you cheat? I mean if we're honest.. None.

Don't get sex at home?

Disabled partner who can't have sex?

High sex drive

Not sexually compatible

Not happy in relationship

Not attracted to partner

In love with partner but just need fun?

Which of those are OK? I've heard them all before "

None of them are ok.

Not ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? oh don’t date say your on here without permission from your partner or the god squad will abuse you as they are all perfect and do no wrong lol get a grip

We aren't potentially destroying someone's life though

Hearing all the cheaters whining because they are being "judged" cracks me up. This is nothing compared to when their partner finds out, then their kids, families, friends and colleagues...

Yep, my mum had a complete breakdown and ended up in a psychiatric hospital."

Yep, it's soul destroying, I've been there. If an attached guy comes within 6 feet of me I will ruin his life!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shit loads & most of them say “Single” on the profile

S"

Is there an option saying "married cheat"? It says "married" i think...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Maybe there should be a fabsfwb group? Or a fabsnsa group? Or even a fabsnomypartnerdoesnt know group?

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By *scarbzMan
over a year ago

Barton upon Humber

Yep; and not alone...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but I'm finding it difficult to find a woman that wants a married man!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On this forum I'm finding it difficult to find women fullstop

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"On this forum I'm finding it difficult to find women fullstop "

I'd like to say I find that surprising...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but I'm finding it difficult to find a woman that wants a married man! "

The problem is there are so many single guys to choose from and even without the moral and danger aspects it's just more convenient to be able to meet when you want and not have to do rushed day time meets because someone is supposed to be at work.

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By *ard86666Man
over a year ago

steve


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

On your profile you say you don't get love and sex mixed up. Someone who loves their wife doesn't lie to her. You don't know what love is."

Easy to say when u got both

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

On your profile you say you don't get love and sex mixed up. Someone who loves their wife doesn't lie to her. You don't know what love is.

Easy to say when u got both"

This is what I hate, the wow is me attitude. You're not a victim!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On this forum I'm finding it difficult to find women fullstop "

Forget the moral aspect or the fact you lie to those closest to you hence you are clearly untrustworthy.

Forget the fact that why would open honest swingers want to put themselves in the potential firing line of hurt partners if they find out because let's face it half of them target the person's the cheating hubby had slept with not the cheating hubby. This can put them in physical danger, risk there reputation, employment etc etc. There's many examples on the scene where this has happened. Your wife or hubby only has to get into your phone and fab account for the shit to hit the fan.

Finally there are literally tons of single males for every couple, single woman. So of course we will want to meet then genuinely single ones who are able to meet at anytime day or night and not be rushed as opposed to a quick daytime meet while your wife thinks your at work etc.

Oh and there are different sites out there specifically for people looking to cheat NSA through to affairs.

KJ

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

It’s not a moral thing for me but Iv been on the receiving end of screaming wife phone calls at 3am when he’s been found out...more than once too...so steer clear whenever possible now...it wasn’t pretty lol "

Same for us. In a club doesn't really matter as the guy doesn't have our contact details for the bunny boiler to find

In our experience a woman will usually blame the person/people he cheated with whereas, if the boot is on the other foot, a guy will blame his cheating partner. And this folks is why it is different for women!

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

On your profile you say you don't get love and sex mixed up. Someone who loves their wife doesn't lie to her. You don't know what love is.

Easy to say when u got both"

No, it's easy to say because we have a moral compass. Lying is wrong, end of.

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By *otwife and MasterCouple
over a year ago

Derby


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

And what reasons can you say justify the fact you cheat? I mean if we're honest.. None.

Don't get sex at home?

Disabled partner who can't have sex?

High sex drive

Not sexually compatible

Not happy in relationship

Not attracted to partner

In love with partner but just need fun?

Which of those are OK? I've heard them all before

None of them are ok.

Not ever."

This

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge?

On your profile you say you don't get love and sex mixed up. Someone who loves their wife doesn't lie to her. You don't know what love is.

Easy to say when u got both

This is what I hate, the wow is me attitude. You're not a victim! "

Woe, not wow lol.

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By *eviantdeeliteCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because it's shitty to cheat. Simples. "

What she said

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By *eviantdeeliteCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Swinging is Swinging and Cheating is Cheating. "

Indeed!

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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago

nottingham

Quest today alot of us meeting there today between 4 and 10 for impromptu Xmas party. Mainly couples I believe and heard busy on a Sun r u going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It’s not a moral thing for me but Iv been on the receiving end of screaming wife phone calls at 3am when he’s been found out...more than once too...so steer clear whenever possible now...it wasn’t pretty lol

Same for us. In a club doesn't really matter as the guy doesn't have our contact details for the bunny boiler to find

In our experience a woman will usually blame the person/people he cheated with whereas, if the boot is on the other foot, a guy will blame his cheating partner. And this folks is why it is different for women!"

good point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My wife knows Im on here and is mow coming round to the idea of having fun herself on here too. Its good to talk and be honest with each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK, so am risking the wrath of those who claim to have higher moral values but anyone on here who is active without their partners knowledge? "

That include you OP

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Lots ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Quest today alot of us meeting there today between 4 and 10 for impromptu Xmas party. Mainly couples I believe and heard busy on a Sun r u going"

No. Leeds is bit far love

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not preaching

Why marry them and confess love

Hows the vows sitting

I am talking married women and men.

If she or he cheated behind your back then what

Sex less marriage fuck... You still have your cake and it wow

If your marriage is on rocks fuck off its less hurtful. Than them finding out your pussy or cock going round neighbours.

Blimey the divorce rate for cheating on here is rife

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's not preaching

Why marry them and confess love

Hows the vows sitting

I am talking married women and men.

If she or he cheated behind your back then what

Sex less marriage fuck... You still have your cake and it wow

If your marriage is on rocks fuck off its less hurtful. Than them finding out your pussy or cock going round neighbours.

Blimey the divorce rate for cheating on here is rife "
I

You could also say why marry someone and promise to "with my body I honour you" if you're not going to.

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By *ng1983Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon tyne

Can't abide cheaters..we don't want to get caught up in someone's shitty drama. These threads are great for ing the cheaters out and our block button gets lots of attention!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? they live at top of hill "

Mountains

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't abide cheaters..we don't want to get caught up in someone's shitty drama. These threads are great for ing the cheaters out and our block button gets lots of attention! "

Not with anyone except me myself and I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My wife knows Im on here and is mow coming round to the idea of having fun herself on here too. Its good to talk and be honest with each other. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Some interesting perspectives about the morality of cheating and lying to someone you know. So, I'm going to throw in one that I realise may be inflammatory to those who say they would never lie to someone they love....

If you have a young child, would you always tell them that there was no such thing as Father Christmas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Already did.

How does that equate to putting a wife or husband in emotional or sexual harm's way by fucking other people and not informing them?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Already did.

How does that equate to putting a wife or husband in emotional or sexual harm's way by fucking other people and not informing them?

"

If they don't know, how is that placing them into emotional or sexual harm?

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By *eviantdeeliteCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground? "

Because they can....

If you do not like it then leave.....or just ignore....the choice is yours

Everyone is entitled to an opinion....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because they can....

If you do not like it then leave.....or just ignore....the choice is yours

Everyone is entitled to an opinion...."

Fair point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Already did.

How does that equate to putting a wife or husband in emotional or sexual harm's way by fucking other people and not informing them?

If they don't know, how is that placing them into emotional or sexual harm? "

Because of the risk, the very real risk of them finding out. Do you think its going to do any good saying "but... but we SAID no strings!" when someone is turning up at your work and threatening to turn up at your home and tell your wife? I've known it happen lots and lots of times. This is why men pay. It doesn't just save the tedious and often pointless task of trying to get a woman to fuck you behind your wife's back. It ensures that it doesn't get messy.

Dude, if you want to cheat on your wife just get on with it. Why do you care about justifying yourself to strangers?

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"Some interesting perspectives about the morality of cheating and lying to someone you know. So, I'm going to throw in one that I realise may be inflammatory to those who say they would never lie to someone they love....

If you have a young child, would you always tell them that there was no such thing as Father Christmas? "

Not really the same is it? Upholding ‘the magic of Christmas’ and potentially giving your wife the clap and a hefty old divorce bill.

Could always combine the two....

“MERRY CHRISTMAS, ANG”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago

middle earth

There is no excuse for hurting someone. I don't care if it's worded as cheating or whatever. As half of a couple in an open relationship why not just have a chat with your partner about your actual wants and needs instead of going behind their back and hurting them. It's not the moral high ground, it's being responsible. I am the first to say that I don't think all people are built for having one partner, I'll also admit that I've cheated on partners then told them to get out of relationships that I was finding it hard to break from. I believe that people cheat if they want a relationship to end, adults know the consiquenses of cheating. If you have half a shit about your partner you'd have a conversation about being in a more open relationship.

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By *c5th XXXMan
over a year ago

boston

I am here without her knowing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a firm believer that if your not honest with who you are and with other half.. you won't ever be happy as your not being true to yourself .. I'd rather have the Mr know about everything .. and vice versa and have our own rules and boundaries .. that we stick too or why be together with someone who doesn't know the true you ..if it's not for them and they hate it .. you'll sneak around and that's 100,,% worse ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

loads but live and let live James does

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By *eviantdeeliteCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"

Dude, if you want to cheat on your wife just get on with it. Why do you care about justifying yourself to strangers?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So why do I get do many people preaching from tbe moral high ground?

Because they can....

If you do not like it then leave.....or just ignore....the choice is yours

Everyone is entitled to an opinion....

Fair point! "

And you put it out there for forumites to comment on. So there is your answer

Sure wreck your marriage as long as I am not one of your bits on side

Cause you will say oh but I love her, got kids, never leave her shit

Would I want to be in her shoes fuck NO it's morally wrong and I am sure you have some. If you do, do right thing and ask her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some interesting perspectives about the morality of cheating and lying to someone you know. So, I'm going to throw in one that I realise may be inflammatory to those who say they would never lie to someone they love....

If you have a young child, would you always tell them that there was no such thing as Father Christmas?

Not really the same is it? Upholding ‘the magic of Christmas’ and potentially giving your wife the clap and a hefty old divorce bill.

Could always combine the two....

“MERRY CHRISTMAS, ANG” "

Having my ex husband cheat on me, I know how it feels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell your on fab

Swinging from pussy to pussy chandelier see what she says

She might be cheating on you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've met quite a few married/attached guys over the last few years of swinging.

We prefer them because they are more fuck n go and don't get clingy or go full blown white knight on us

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By *mooth8Man
over a year ago

s hertfordshire


"I am.

Some people will judge and some people are not fussed. People will assume you’re a piece of shit for cheating when they don’t know your reasons. I’m not here to judge anyone... Shame not all others are the same. If someone or something is not for you, it’s not hard to politely decline any offer.

Judging you kind of assumes your wife is being faithful. I don't know that, do I? Do you? "

A very real and relative comment.

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"I am here without her knowing "

Nice to let us know here as it's not mentioned anywhere else ...

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By *eltic KinkstersCouple
over a year ago

Manchester/Leeds

Thanks OP for giving us a nice list of people to block

If you're on here cheating on your partner you're not a swinger, you're just a despicable human being who can't keep it in their pants.

Not "moralising" - couldn't care less how many people you sleep with, but you're lying and deceitful and people's lives will be ruined, potentially.

Just stop

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

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"Thanks OP for giving us a nice list of people to block

If you're on here cheating on your partner you're not a swinger, you're just a despicable human being who can't keep it in their pants.

Not "moralising" - couldn't care less how many people you sleep with, but you're lying and deceitful and people's lives will be ruined, potentially.

Just stop"

Gave my block button a few there reading all this thread lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am here without her knowing

Nice to let us know here as it's not mentioned anywhere else ..."

And this is the problem, if your cheating then say so on your profile so people you meet can make an informed choice!

Only clue was the can't accommodate until they said in this thread.

KJ

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

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"I am here without her knowing

Nice to let us know here as it's not mentioned anywhere else ...

And this is the problem, if your cheating then say so on your profile so people you meet can make an informed choice!

Only clue was the can't accommodate until they said in this thread.

KJ "

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

It depends what you mean by being active. Being on here; well the last 4 months, anyway, is probably the best thing that I've ever done for my marriage.

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

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"It depends what you mean by being active. Being on here; well the last 4 months, anyway, is probably the best thing that I've ever done for my marriage. "

No idea who your talking to so that message makes no sense to me ... x

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