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"Just wondered if anyone else has thought about going or not going to a club as Coronavirus increases? We go to a few clubs, particularly involving hot water. But obviously its not just clubs as we get intimate with people. Bit difficult to shag when advise not to "shake hands " and not get to close to people. Thoughts? Without causing panic lol. " I'm still going until I deem the risk to be too high. | |||
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"It’s a hard one, do you ask them if they ha e recently been out of the country or been in contact with those who have. Seems pointless now though as the virus is now passing from person to person within the uk and with a two week incubation period will people no if their infected or not." Think it will be more of a concern for those who are in close contact with the elderly or infirm. | |||
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"I didn't think people were even taking it that seriously yet I am feeling very cautious atm because my parents are old, disabled and poorly as it is. It is a worry when they even get normal flu/pneumonia. My son is regularly in hospital because he is asthmatic to so anything respiratory worries me. I have some club visits coming up in april and may, will see how things are closer to the time. " I care for my elderly mother, the cold virus that was around at Christmas nocked the stuffing out of her, I not concerned for me but her most delightful. | |||
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"I didn't think people were even taking it that seriously yet I am feeling very cautious atm because my parents are old, disabled and poorly as it is. It is a worry when they even get normal flu/pneumonia. My son is regularly in hospital because he is asthmatic to so anything respiratory worries me. I have some club visits coming up in april and may, will see how things are closer to the time. I care for my elderly mother, the cold virus that was around at Christmas nocked the stuffing out of her, I not concerned for me but her most delightful." Same!! They are still having affects of it now hope your mother manages to steer clear of it xxx | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity " The stakes are higher than that for people who are old and infirm | |||
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"It’s a hard one, do you ask them if they ha e recently been out of the country or been in contact with those who have. Seems pointless now though as the virus is now passing from person to person within the uk and with a two week incubation period will people no if their infected or not. Think it will be more of a concern for those who are in close contact with the elderly or infirm." Might need to lower our age preferences, just in case!! | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity " not if your asthmatic like saint! | |||
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"I didn't think people were even taking it that seriously yet I am feeling very cautious atm because my parents are old, disabled and poorly as it is. It is a worry when they even get normal flu/pneumonia. My son is regularly in hospital because he is asthmatic to so anything respiratory worries me. I have some club visits coming up in april and may, will see how things are closer to the time. I care for my elderly mother, the cold virus that was around at Christmas nocked the stuffing out of her, I not concerned for me but her most delightful. Same!! They are still having affects of it now hope your mother manages to steer clear of it xxx " Thank you. wishing you all the best, trying times ahead. | |||
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"It’s a hard one, do you ask them if they ha e recently been out of the country or been in contact with those who have. Seems pointless now though as the virus is now passing from person to person within the uk and with a two week incubation period will people no if their infected or not. Think it will be more of a concern for those who are in close contact with the elderly or infirm." Think everyone needs to lower age bracket from 99 and be safe | |||
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"I travel on the tube in london so come across more people there than in a club " I think there is a difference in the levels of intimacy between a swingers club and the Tube. Also clovid 19 isn't the flu and whilst the current levels of infection are relatively low the potential is huge due to the virus being new which means we have no immunity to it. So with that in mind clubs and parties are currently not on our agenda... TFF for Netflix lol | |||
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"I travel on the tube in london so come across more people there than in a club I think there is a difference in the levels of intimacy between a swingers club and the Tube. Also clovid 19 isn't the flu and whilst the current levels of infection are relatively low the potential is huge due to the virus being new which means we have no immunity to it. So with that in mind clubs and parties are currently not on our agenda... TFF for Netflix lol" Travelling through Kings Cross on a sat aft I'm not so sure, tourism was getting a little too close to me for comfort. | |||
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"You could say the same for shopping or leisure centres, cinemas or anywhere in public! " | |||
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"And I'm guessing not many people have caught the Corona virus in a swingers club" Fair to say if they did they'll not be telling anyone | |||
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"And I'm guessing not many people have caught the Corona virus in a swingers club Fair to say if they did they'll not be telling anyone " I bloody well would, especially the club themselves so they can warn others. | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say " This!!! | |||
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"I did over hear a conversation in a club the other night saying that a few people had been in touch to say that they weren’t coming to this event as they were worried about Coronavirus. Personally, we won’t stop going out unless it spreads considerably. " I'm going to an event on Saturday, for some reason my mum was under the impression that I'm far more at risk in a swingers club than on a bus, I told her to get a grip. | |||
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"Well it didn't put people off today!! We had a near capacity crowd at MILF Monday " If I hadn't had to be in work myself I would have been there with my Club SX girls too! | |||
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"Well it didn't put people off today!! We had a near capacity crowd at MILF Monday If I hadn't had to be in work myself I would have been there with my Club SX girls too! " Awwww they had a BALL!!! Hopefully you can make it next time xx | |||
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"Just wondered if anyone else has thought about going or not going to a club as Coronavirus increases? We go to a few clubs, particularly involving hot water. But obviously its not just clubs as we get intimate with people. Bit difficult to shag when advise not to "shake hands " and not get to close to people. Thoughts? Without causing panic lol. " Everyone wears a hazmat suit with a glory hole in it | |||
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"Over 400,000 new STI cases are diagnosed in the UK annually. There were over 1.7million new diagnoses of AIDS / HIV globally in 2018 - yet people still play bareback in clubs. PHE have reported that in the week ending 23rd Feb, 22 new cases of influenza A & B were diagnosed in the UK. There have been 39 cases of Coronavirus in the UK in total this year I’d say the answer is that you take the risks that you feel are appropriate for you. Coronavirus is airborne, so intimacy in itself isn’t more risky than a crowded tube train. The same can be said for a standard flu strain. As mentioned above, the media are creating a lot of panic around this, probably unnecessarily, because that sells papers! " People make the choice whether to play bareback or not, their choice to gamble with STI risk. As long as they earn others. | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity " This! Check out the stats online. Risk level is incredibly low. Keep having fun, life is too short..... | |||
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"Just wondered if anyone else has thought about going or not going to a club as Coronavirus increases? We go to a few clubs, particularly involving hot water. But obviously its not just clubs as we get intimate with people. Bit difficult to shag when advise not to "shake hands " and not get to close to people. Thoughts? Without causing panic lol. Everyone wears a hazmat suit with a glory hole in it " I can feel a themed event coming on!!! | |||
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"Over 400,000 new STI cases are diagnosed in the UK annually. There were over 1.7million new diagnoses of AIDS / HIV globally in 2018 - yet people still play bareback in clubs. PHE have reported that in the week ending 23rd Feb, 22 new cases of influenza A & B were diagnosed in the UK. There have been 39 cases of Coronavirus in the UK in total this year I’d say the answer is that you take the risks that you feel are appropriate for you. Coronavirus is airborne, so intimacy in itself isn’t more risky than a crowded tube train. The same can be said for a standard flu strain. As mentioned above, the media are creating a lot of panic around this, probably unnecessarily, because that sells papers! " | |||
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"Just wondered if anyone else has thought about going or not going to a club as Coronavirus increases? We go to a few clubs, particularly involving hot water. But obviously its not just clubs as we get intimate with people. Bit difficult to shag when advise not to "shake hands " and not get to close to people. Thoughts? Without causing panic lol. Everyone wears a hazmat suit with a glory hole in it I can feel a themed event coming on!!! " There`s that place in Lincolnshire that sells all of the EX MOD kit that has some of these on sale! | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity This! Check out the stats online. Risk level is incredibly low. Keep having fun, life is too short....." You’re missing the point, yes only a few tens of people have it in the uk because it hasn’t spread. If it spreads to a large chunk of the population then you have an issue, it’s more than ten times as fatal as flu (1-3% as opposed to 0.1%). Do the sums, if it spread to say 50% of the uk population and it has a 1% mortality rate.... Having said all that, it hasn’t spread widely at all so relax, it’s not media hype though. The warnings come from the WHO. | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity This! Check out the stats online. Risk level is incredibly low. Keep having fun, life is too short..... You’re missing the point, yes only a few tens of people have it in the uk because it hasn’t spread. If it spreads to a large chunk of the population then you have an issue, it’s more than ten times as fatal as flu (1-3% as opposed to 0.1%). Do the sums, if it spread to say 50% of the uk population and it has a 1% mortality rate.... Having said all that, it hasn’t spread widely at all so relax, it’s not media hype though. The warnings come from the WHO. " If there is a risk of it spreading then cobra will implement plans to try and stop it spreading, having mass implications on the economy of this country and people’s every day lives. | |||
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"From news reports it will only be gatherings of over 1000 people, so think clubbing will be ok. ( unless there is some supper swinging venue) I’m unaware of, lol" Super ( Dam spell check ) aaaaggghhh | |||
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"As long as you stay min 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash your hands regularly and keep them off your face, avoid public transport you shouldn’t get it. I do all that anyway to avoid colds and coughs and it works and this is the same family of virus as a cold. I’m not concerned by this ,fit healthy and have survived flu and malaria which are very similar , just don't wanna get any kind of man flu ! So yeah it makes sense to avoid crowds of any kind of you don’t want to get colds, flu or Corona " Yes, you may be fine but you may pass it to someone who will not be and also they may infect two or three. It’s called exponential growth, its how epidemics work. | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West " so are you suggesting I isolate one self ?? | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West so are you suggesting I isolate one self ??" Why are you talking to yourself? | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West so are you suggesting I isolate one self ?? Why are you talking to yourself?" Seems it's a level of now the propaganda is kicking in haha | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West so are you suggesting I isolate one self ?? Why are you talking to yourself? Seems it's a level of now the propaganda is kicking in haha " don't panic get captain mannering | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West so are you suggesting I isolate one self ?? Why are you talking to yourself? Seems it's a level of now the propaganda is kicking in haha don't panic get captain mannering " Are you OK? | |||
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"Seems it's creeping in the North West so are you suggesting I isolate one self ?? Why are you talking to yourself? Seems it's a level of now the propaganda is kicking in haha don't panic get captain mannering Are you OK? " Fit as .. | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say This!!!" Assume you meant 'this is a nonsense statistic'. If coronavirus was to infect as many people as the regular flu, then around 10 million people would die | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C" It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu" it gives every one to grumble more so with there dull lives .... | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C" Hello Mr C | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu" No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C Hello Mr C " Hi Keeley!! Long time not see! We need a catch up with you! | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think?" OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. " yeah ok whatever panic and go and buy lots of facemask quick before we all die. I refuse wasting my time with people that don't want to understand like you. | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C Hello Mr C Hi Keeley!! Long time not see! We need a catch up with you!" We definitely do! Shots! | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. " You do realise there are likely to be many more thousands of people that have had corona with very mild symptoms that are perfectly fine and haven't sought medical attention? | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. yeah ok whatever panic and go and buy lots of facemask quick before we all die. I refuse wasting my time with people that don't want to understand like you. " No you'll likely make a potential crisis worse with a lassaiz faire attitude, for something which is very serious. There's a reason why doctors and the WHO, who I think we can all agree are infinitely more qualified than you, are gravely concerned with he issue | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. You do realise there are likely to be many more thousands of people that have had corona with very mild symptoms that are perfectly fine and haven't sought medical attention? " As will be the case with the common flu. The recorded mortality rate is still orders of magnitude greater anyway you spin it | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. You do realise there are likely to be many more thousands of people that have had corona with very mild symptoms that are perfectly fine and haven't sought medical attention? As will be the case with the common flu. The recorded mortality rate is still orders of magnitude greater anyway you spin it " What do you propose we do then? Run around like headless chickens and wait for the world to end? Honestly, worse things have happened, yes, people will die and yes, it's awful, but panicking will achieve nothing. | |||
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"I didn't think people were even taking it that seriously yet I am feeling very cautious atm because my parents are old, disabled and poorly as it is. It is a worry when they even get normal flu/pneumonia. My son is regularly in hospital because he is asthmatic to so anything respiratory worries me. I have some club visits coming up in april and may, will see how things are closer to the time. " Same here I’m not worried myself as health but do have young children and elderly parents with health issue so if I get it’s passing on that worries me!! | |||
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"People keeps panicking because of how much attention the media is paying to this. There is no reason for panic. Coronavirus is just another of the thousands of viruses that cause respiratory diseases. It is even milder than the comon flu. It is more risky to have the flu than a coronavirus infection. Please don't believe all the media is saying because clearly someone wants to make profit from all the alarm raised by the media. Wash your hands don't cough/sneeze on others and be mindful of people who are more at risk such as young children or elderly. So same precautions as you would have with any other flu like virus. Take care and don't let the media manipulate you. Mr C It's 20 times more deadly than the common flu No it is not as proven by the stastistics. You are more likely to win the lottery than to die from coronavirus stop confusing the general public. In 2019 between 99000 and 200000 people died from lower respiratory tract infections caused by influenza. Only 3049 deaths so far of coronavirus worlwide. According to the who and the cdcs. I think this is quite far from influenza don't you think? OK, thanks for this, because at least it demonstrates you don't have the foggiest clue about statistics. Around 2-3% of coronavirus cases result in death. Around 0.1% of influenza cases results in death. Coronavirus hasn't infected as many people as common flu does each year, which is why the gross number of deaths is materially lower as it stands. This is why the authorities are desperately scrambling to contain it, as if it becomes truely pandemic then millions of people will die. You do realise there are likely to be many more thousands of people that have had corona with very mild symptoms that are perfectly fine and haven't sought medical attention? As will be the case with the common flu. The recorded mortality rate is still orders of magnitude greater anyway you spin it What do you propose we do then? Run around like headless chickens and wait for the world to end? Honestly, worse things have happened, yes, people will die and yes, it's awful, but panicking will achieve nothing. " Who mentioned panicking? The government needs to be prepared to put in place plans to minimise the spread, unfortunately this will include things like shutting down schools and mass gatherings of people if required. It's not about panic, its concern for what is possibly a big issue | |||
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"What people are failing to realise is that covid19 is waaaay more dangerous than the seasonal flu ( influenza a and b) which in season 2019/2019 had a UK mortality rate of 0.13% and killed aprox 600 people. Corona has a mortality rate of between 2.07% at the moment and a theoretical 4%. The reason it looks like it's less dangerous at the moment is the number of people exposed. It's killing fewer people because fewer people have been infected at the moment. Once it gets a foothold the UK government have estimated 80% of the UK population will be infected. They are comfortably prepared for 500,000 dead. That's a lot more than flu. The point is that there are no concrete process to avoid infection. Washing hands and sneezing/coughing into the crook of your arm is a placebo. If your going to get it you are going to get it. Covid actually lives on surfaces in cold and humid climates for up to 72 hours. Much much less in hot dry climates where it's protein shell can dry out and degrade. We can't panic about what we can't change. Scientists around the world are looking for a vaccine and they are some seriously smart people. They will find a treatment. Possibly not a cure but a way to lessen its impact. Unless you have underlying conditions that covid can exacerbate then you will most likely be ok. You might feel like death for a while but will recover. So take what precautions you feel like you need to. Masks won't really help so avoid those pieces of shit who are trying to profit from this by selling had sanitiser for 65 quid a bottle. Tell each other how much you love eachother. Don't be afraid to hold someone who's scared. Support eachother. Hold together as decent human beings and show some damn compassion for once as a whole species. " Bravo | |||
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"What people are failing to realise is that covid19 is waaaay more dangerous than the seasonal flu ( influenza a and b) which in season 2019/2019 had a UK mortality rate of 0.13% and killed aprox 600 people. Corona has a mortality rate of between 2.07% at the moment and a theoretical 4%. The reason it looks like it's less dangerous at the moment is the number of people exposed. It's killing fewer people because fewer people have been infected at the moment. Once it gets a foothold the UK government have estimated 80% of the UK population will be infected. They are comfortably prepared for 500,000 dead. That's a lot more than flu. The point is that there are no concrete process to avoid infection. Washing hands and sneezing/coughing into the crook of your arm is a placebo. If your going to get it you are going to get it. Covid actually lives on surfaces in cold and humid climates for up to 72 hours. Much much less in hot dry climates where it's protein shell can dry out and degrade. We can't panic about what we can't change. Scientists around the world are looking for a vaccine and they are some seriously smart people. They will find a treatment. Possibly not a cure but a way to lessen its impact. Unless you have underlying conditions that covid can exacerbate then you will most likely be ok. You might feel like death for a while but will recover. So take what precautions you feel like you need to. Masks won't really help so avoid those pieces of shit who are trying to profit from this by selling had sanitiser for 65 quid a bottle. Tell each other how much you love eachother. Don't be afraid to hold someone who's scared. Support eachother. Hold together as decent human beings and show some damn compassion for once as a whole species. Bravo " If the government really want to do something, then prosecute the robbing bastards who are ripping of the general public. “ some unscrupulous gits will always use others misfortune to make a quick buck”. | |||
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"Just wondered if anyone else has thought about going or not going to a club as Coronavirus increases? We go to a few clubs, particularly involving hot water. But obviously its not just clubs as we get intimate with people. Bit difficult to shag when advise not to "shake hands " and not get to close to people. Thoughts? Without causing panic lol. " omg i think you better rush out and get better insurance the ones you have are definitely not good enough | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ??" The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. " Can't fall apart over this not can. Damn autocorrect | |||
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"Wow You are more likely to die from:- A crash on the way to the club The flu Heart attack from sexual activity " | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. " That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. " Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day | |||
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"Why would we stop going to clubs? Shall we stop driving or crossing roads? More deaths on the roads today in Britain than the overhyped virus. " Well said | |||
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"Why would we stop going to clubs? Shall we stop driving or crossing roads? More deaths on the roads today in Britain than the overhyped virus. Well said " Do those things spread viruses? | |||
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"Why would we stop going to clubs? Shall we stop driving or crossing roads? More deaths on the roads today in Britain than the overhyped virus. Well said Do those things spread viruses? " You're more likely to die from them. | |||
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"Why would we stop going to clubs? Shall we stop driving or crossing roads? More deaths on the roads today in Britain than the overhyped virus. Well said Do those things spread viruses? You're more likely to die from them. " Not what I asked. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day " Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms." Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people " This isn't the Spanish flu, healthcare wasn't as advanced then as it is now. I think too many people are acting irrationally, stating rumours as fact, ignoring real facts and just letting their imaginations run wild. It's awful that people will die, I have family members that are in the higher risk groups and yes, I worry about them getting it but the fact is that the majority of people that get it will survive. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people This isn't the Spanish flu, healthcare wasn't as advanced then as it is now. I think too many people are acting irrationally, stating rumours as fact, ignoring real facts and just letting their imaginations run wild. It's awful that people will die, I have family members that are in the higher risk groups and yes, I worry about them getting it but the fact is that the majority of people that get it will survive. " It's like talking to a brick wall. Yes the vast majority of people will survive. But if it takes hold of a large swathe of the population vast numbers of people will die. The mortality rate of this disease is pretty much in line with Spanish flu, so it's more similar than you think | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people This isn't the Spanish flu, healthcare wasn't as advanced then as it is now. I think too many people are acting irrationally, stating rumours as fact, ignoring real facts and just letting their imaginations run wild. It's awful that people will die, I have family members that are in the higher risk groups and yes, I worry about them getting it but the fact is that the majority of people that get it will survive. It's like talking to a brick wall. Yes the vast majority of people will survive. But if it takes hold of a large swathe of the population vast numbers of people will die. The mortality rate of this disease is pretty much in line with Spanish flu, so it's more similar than you think " There's no point continuing to converse with you. You prefer to take notice of rumours rather than fact. | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people This isn't the Spanish flu, healthcare wasn't as advanced then as it is now. I think too many people are acting irrationally, stating rumours as fact, ignoring real facts and just letting their imaginations run wild. It's awful that people will die, I have family members that are in the higher risk groups and yes, I worry about them getting it but the fact is that the majority of people that get it will survive. It's like talking to a brick wall. Yes the vast majority of people will survive. But if it takes hold of a large swathe of the population vast numbers of people will die. The mortality rate of this disease is pretty much in line with Spanish flu, so it's more similar than you think There's no point continuing to converse with you. You prefer to take notice of rumours rather than fact. " Quite literally everything I've stated is a fact | |||
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"arcadian..... A lot of what you say makes sense. The 500,000 figure is just way out of the window.... 500 - 1000 maybe, but how many of those will have had other complicating factors i.e. sever asthmatics ?? The 500,000 figure is actual government released estimated deaths and most of those will have underlying conditions or the very young or elderly. A friend of mine works in the intel community and states they are stockpiling body bags at the moment but that there is no need or point in panicking. We face so many dangers every single day. From random acts of chance to self destructive natures. We can fall apart over we this. It's just another of the things we should just accept is there and get on with our lives. Without screwing eachother over or stigmatizing the Infected. That figure is not an estimate, it's worse case scenario. Even if it's a worst case scenario, it's a good enough reason to be gravely concerned. Infections have increased by 70% in the last day Most people who catch it will have mild symptoms. Yes, but 1 in 10 people will become very ill and 1 in 30-50 will die. If it spreads across the country thousands of people will die in this country alone. Basically I think people have become utterly blasé to the realities of pandemics having not had to deal with one in our lifetime. The Spanish flu killed 100 millions people This isn't the Spanish flu, healthcare wasn't as advanced then as it is now. I think too many people are acting irrationally, stating rumours as fact, ignoring real facts and just letting their imaginations run wild. It's awful that people will die, I have family members that are in the higher risk groups and yes, I worry about them getting it but the fact is that the majority of people that get it will survive. It's like talking to a brick wall. Yes the vast majority of people will survive. But if it takes hold of a large swathe of the population vast numbers of people will die. The mortality rate of this disease is pretty much in line with Spanish flu, so it's more similar than you think There's no point continuing to converse with you. You prefer to take notice of rumours rather than fact. Quite literally everything I've stated is a fact" No, your spouting worse case scenario. Walking across a road: worse case scenario if hit is death, likelyhood low risk. No difference with this overhyped cold. So no, you're buying the hype as it makes a cracking story for the media who are scaring you. | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx " Do you propose everyone in the country self isolates? That nobody goes anywhere just in case? | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx " So have you stopped going to work, shopping, using cash machine??? | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx " I think similar. Added to which the comments by those who say they'll continue to attend clubs don't inspire confidence they're too concerned about anybody's health. I'll save visiting clubs until I'm confident that it's under control. | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx So have you stopped going to work, shopping, using cash machine???" I don't fuck people when I shop or work. I don't lick bodily fluids from cash machines. | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say " This was discussed in the Gatehouse today! The flu kills so many people! It has been blown out of proportion, swine flu was not given this much publicity! | |||
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"Your more likely to win the lottery, catch an STD, and get hit by a bus then you are coronavirus. My fingers are crossed for the lottery." I guess that's over 3,000 lottery winners in Italy right now then. | |||
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" Whether you are not bothered, very bothered, run a club or an event or shag whoever whenever there is a risk to us all. Time and attitude to events will impact how quickly this does or doesn't become a major issue. Opinions are like arseholes, we all have one. With Starling having a respiratory illness and weak immune system we will be going into a low profile phase of Swinging. Work,shopping,cinema etc have their own risks and each of us will make whatever decisions/choices we feel comfortable with. The initial point re a club though, i believe, is on a different level in terms of contact with people. Often strangers. Like many have said stay safe. Xx" We haven't been to one for a few months and we were looking to get to one before Easter, in fact it's the only reason we signed back up to this site! Frustrating, but in the meantime we can enjoy making future plans and wait for things to settle down, by which time we'll be well up for it | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say This was discussed in the Gatehouse today! The flu kills so many people! It has been blown out of proportion, swine flu was not given this much publicity!" The world famous Center for Epidemic Research - the gatehouse. | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say This was discussed in the Gatehouse today! The flu kills so many people! It has been blown out of proportion, swine flu was not given this much publicity! The world famous Center for Epidemic Research - the gatehouse. " The reason why swine flu was not given this much publicity is because it didn't infect or kill as many people as this has ALREADY. We are just 2 months into this epidemic! | |||
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"646000 people die every year globally from the regular flu and 200000 from norovirus. the media have a lot to answer is all I am going to say This was discussed in the Gatehouse today! The flu kills so many people! It has been blown out of proportion, swine flu was not given this much publicity! The world famous Center for Epidemic Research - the gatehouse. The reason why swine flu was not given this much publicity is because it didn't infect or kill as many people as this has ALREADY. We are just 2 months into this epidemic!" Yes it did, do research before coming out with nonsense. There were over 12 thousand deaths in the US alone. | |||
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"It’s a hard one, do you ask them if they ha e recently been out of the country or been in contact with those who have. Seems pointless now though as the virus is now passing from person to person within the uk and with a two week incubation period will people no if their infected or not. Think it will be more of a concern for those who are in close contact with the elderly or infirm." Didn't a 44 yr old die with it?? Might have to Google ages | |||
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"We'll be watching government and Dept of Health guidance carefully and will act accordingly. To be honest, if the virus starts spreading exponentially like it did in China, I think Public Health Wirral will be asking us to close temporarily. We are watched really closely by our local authority and we are happy to work with Public Health to ensure that our customers and staff are not putting themselves at unnecessary risk. " I'm watching the pubic guidelines closely. As all of my hobbies involve close contact with groups of people. ( although swinging a little closer) if and when they start warning against gatherings.. then I will stop going. | |||
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"The only reason they're worried is because they don't want the virus to mutate. It's just earth's way of saying fuck off population (like cancer was before so much research got put into it). People at risk are elderly, children and people with health and immunity problems. But most average people who catch it have symptoms like the flu. There's just a massive crisis in China because its so densely populated. This is like when they said they were putting up the price of fuel from 80p to over £1 per litre. Widespread panic because people like propaganda. Like anti vaxers... " I thought children were proving to be pretty resilient to it? I think people's concerns about not wanting to inadvertently transmit a largely unknown virus to vulnerable people is quite different to people freaking out about every petrol tanks. | |||
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"The only reason they're worried is because they don't want the virus to mutate. It's just earth's way of saying fuck off population (like cancer was before so much research got put into it). People at risk are elderly, children and people with health and immunity problems. But most average people who catch it have symptoms like the flu. There's just a massive crisis in China because its so densely populated. This is like when they said they were putting up the price of fuel from 80p to over £1 per litre. Widespread panic because people like propaganda. Like anti vaxers... " This, from the world health organisation. Actual experts, not the daily express or Susan from hull who you met in the pub. At the moment it looks like it’s at least 10x the mortality of the flu so they want to keep the infection rate under control. At the moment it’s manageable in the uk, I’ll probably visit a club but it’s not “media hype” or “just like cancer” “The second major difference is that COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza. While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. Third, we have vaccines and therapeutics for seasonal flu, but at the moment there is no vaccine and no specific treatment for COVID-19. However, clinical trials of therapeutics are now being done, and more than 20 vaccines are in development “ | |||
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"The only reason they're worried is because they don't want the virus to mutate. It's just earth's way of saying fuck off population (like cancer was before so much research got put into it). People at risk are elderly, children and people with health and immunity problems. But most average people who catch it have symptoms like the flu. There's just a massive crisis in China because its so densely populated. This is like when they said they were putting up the price of fuel from 80p to over £1 per litre. Widespread panic because people like propaganda. Like anti vaxers... This, from the world health organisation. Actual experts, not the daily express or Susan from hull who you met in the pub. At the moment it looks like it’s at least 10x the mortality of the flu so they want to keep the infection rate under control. At the moment it’s manageable in the uk, I’ll probably visit a club but it’s not “media hype” or “just like cancer” “The second major difference is that COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza. While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. Third, we have vaccines and therapeutics for seasonal flu, but at the moment there is no vaccine and no specific treatment for COVID-19. However, clinical trials of therapeutics are now being done, and more than 20 vaccines are in development “" the issue with the current figures is that it's a small sample of data..so we only have a rough idea and they will take thr higher figures. The fact is they are not testing everyone that has symptoms and there could actually be many more people that have had it and survived than we will ever know about x | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx You're right, I believe we should disregard the advice of all qualified medics and revert to the advice of you guys whose qualifications in the area are at best dubious. I wonder if there's a correlation between misunderstanding the potential issue of this and how people voted on brexit" People aren't misunderstanding and it's feck all to do with brexit. | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx You're right, I believe we should disregard the advice of all qualified medics and revert to the advice of you guys whose qualifications in the area are at best dubious. I wonder if there's a correlation between misunderstanding the potential issue of this and how people voted on brexit People aren't misunderstanding and it's feck all to do with brexit. " It really is a misunderstanding. I was talking about a correlation in attitudes and the 'tired of experts' World view. For what it's worth I think this outbreak will actually impact on the brexit timeline | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx You're right, I believe we should disregard the advice of all qualified medics and revert to the advice of you guys whose qualifications in the area are at best dubious. I wonder if there's a correlation between misunderstanding the potential issue of this and how people voted on brexit People aren't misunderstanding and it's feck all to do with brexit. It really is a misunderstanding. I was talking about a correlation in attitudes and the 'tired of experts' World view. For what it's worth I think this outbreak will actually impact on the brexit timeline " I'm not tired of experts, I'm tired of idiots trying to act like experts while distorting facts, spreading false stories and trying to scare people. | |||
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"I actually think this ..... A lot of people seem to think that it’s ok to go play and think it’s not that bad etc etc saying I’m not going to panic yet. It’s YOU people that’s making it spread then!!! Your happy to go ahead and play not knowing who they have been near in clubs or work or where ever etc then you go home to work and can pass it on to others & the vulnerable. Reason this all spreads is because people’s attitudes saying ah we can’t stop living and until the news say stay in we will carry on. They have said on the news to try and stop this spreading wash hands face etc yet swinging we do much more then that!! You really want to carry on swinging for kicks then rather then say ah you know what couple weeks wouldn’t harm being in to see how far this virus does go. Your not helping g playing and if you can’t see this then something up. People need to listen to the news and today the numbers are getting bigger and higher every day. Might not be a thousand but if we all have this attitude it soon be in the 1000. I have to be careful as I have some health issues so I’m not playing I’m not risking my own health or anyone else’s for little bit of nookie life is more important and we can have sex and fun lots more when it’s settles down but wile the numbers get bigger I think that it’s way to risky! Stay safe xx You're right, I believe we should disregard the advice of all qualified medics and revert to the advice of you guys whose qualifications in the area are at best dubious. I wonder if there's a correlation between misunderstanding the potential issue of this and how people voted on brexit People aren't misunderstanding and it's feck all to do with brexit. It really is a misunderstanding. I was talking about a correlation in attitudes and the 'tired of experts' World view. For what it's worth I think this outbreak will actually impact on the brexit timeline I'm not tired of experts, I'm tired of idiots trying to act like experts while distorting facts, spreading false stories and trying to scare people. " I think you may suffer from a degree of cognitive dissonance. I've literally explained the objective facts about the current situation based on what the experts in the field have been saying, and you've created the idea in your head that the facts are twisted and false. A significant outbreak in the UK is now looking likely, so look after yourself and please don't let your arrogant attitude lead to the infection of those more vulnerable than yourself | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make." What you say a quite true but this virus can be passed on in many other ways: it does not need sexual contact. A trip to the pub for a pint cold be sufficient... | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make." The thread is about the virus and Clubs. If you are still going to work, out shopping etc then you are as safe in a Club. If you put yourself into isolation from everything else then you presumably won't be going to a Swinger's Club either. | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make." And so we isolate ourselves for 14 days to be certain that we are uninfected and go out to buy food and isolate ourselves again for another 14 days to ensure we aren't infected and aren't a threat to others until we have to go out again and risk infection and then more isolation. When is it safe to act normally????? Or is this to become the normal standard of behaviour?? Wash your hands, use a tissue, observe normal hygiene, refrain from licking public surfaces etc. and the risk is reduced. | |||
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"10 million people in Wuhan and 70000 people caught it in China, even if they all lived in Wuhan which they don’t then my maths say 0.7% of the population of Wuhan caught it 80% of those had it mildly and 3% died So that’s 3% of the 0.7% who caught it died. Is that 0.021% of the population of Wuhan, (which was the epicentre in China) actually died. Currently just over 1 in every million people in the UK has it. This will increase....do I risk it at the mo? When do I start to worry? Will my actions possibly increase these stats? Not sure, but thought some stats might help me and maybe others decide. Xx " Well yes, quiet. In Wuhan they implemented very draconian measure to keep people isolated whether they had the virus or not. I’m guessing that would include swingers clubs! Actually, I’m not especially worried but as and when the experts say stay in then I’m staying in. (yes, they do exist. They build planes, develop drugs ANALYSE DATA) | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make." You obviously have not read up about how the virus is spread, you'd be far more likely to catch it in a supermarket since there's a higher volume of people sneezing and touching everything. | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make. You obviously have not read up about how the virus is spread, you'd be far more likely to catch it in a supermarket since there's a higher volume of people sneezing and touching everything. " Exactly this. My fanny has a lot less germs than a Tesco trolly handle | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make. You obviously have not read up about how the virus is spread, you'd be far more likely to catch it in a supermarket since there's a higher volume of people sneezing and touching everything. The term convergence springs to mind. " Have you stopped going shopping? Going to public places? Going to work? If not then you're equally as responsible if someone catches it from you and dies as I am if I go to a swingers club. | |||
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"Sure the addition of going to a place where physical contact is the name of the game is somewhat different to going to the supermarket. When I return home I know wash my hands. When you go to a club are you washing your hands every time you touch anything or anyone?" There are far less people in a swingers club than other places. I'm no more putting people at risk than you are going to a supermarket. | |||
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"If you wish to take the risk then that is your choice. If you choose to take the risk that you may pick up covid 19 and pass it on to someone else that is also your choice. If a person you pass it onto then becomes seriously ill or possibly dies then that is your responsibility. The questions we all need to ask ourselves are these: Should be take the risk and are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility all for the sake of a sexual encounter? Or should we just take a step back see what happens? Life is short but it can be made an awful lot shorter by the decisions we make." Well said. | |||
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"Sure the addition of going to a place where physical contact is the name of the game is somewhat different to going to the supermarket. When I return home I know wash my hands. When you go to a club are you washing your hands every time you touch anything or anyone? There are far less people in a swingers club than other places. I'm no more putting people at risk than you are going to a supermarket. " im sure the people you meet in a club have been living a plastic isolation tent before being let out....! lol | |||
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"Sure the addition of going to a place where physical contact is the name of the game is somewhat different to going to the supermarket. When I return home I know wash my hands. When you go to a club are you washing your hands every time you touch anything or anyone? There are far less people in a swingers club than other places. I'm no more putting people at risk than you are going to a supermarket. im sure the people you meet in a club have been living a plastic isolation tent before being let out....! lol" Same as the people you meet everyday doing your usual things. | |||
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"It's largely time now to educate ourselves, as there is almost zero infection level in the UK. It will increase over time, if containment measures including self-isolation, flight cancellations and the very simple instructions of how to wash hands with soap and water, not touching your face etc, don't continue to keep infection numbers at a near zero level in the UK. I've just flown back to the UK and am amazed at some of the paranoia here. Still having meets unless I get ill or have associated with a person who is known to be infected " | |||
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"It’s a hard one, do you ask them if they ha e recently been out of the country or been in contact with those who have. Seems pointless now though as the virus is now passing from person to person within the uk and with a two week incubation period will people no if their infected or not. Think it will be more of a concern for those who are in close contact with the elderly or infirm. Might need to lower our age preferences, just in case!! " | |||
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