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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Have you ever wondered why there are so many single guys on this site.

Is it that they choose to remain single or is it that they simply cannot get a girlfriend?

We frequently meet single guys and it's surpassing how many turn up empty handed. Not only do some guys not bring anything to drink, but don't bring condoms either.

Some guys say that they didn't know if we preferred white or red so they didn't bring anything. Rather strange logic!!!

I would suggest if that's how a guy treats a lady then no wonder he is single. Women love to be pampered.

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By *orkmalewithPAMan
over a year ago

York

I think you have just been meeting the wrong ones. Some of the things you said are just common sense.

I am single but not by choice I would love to meet someone single that I connect with. But they all seem to be taken! So until then I just wish to have some fun with like minded people but I am always courteous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

C- Must try harder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's getting to the point where single guys actually think they are doing you a favour by meeting lol.

They seem to forget that without couples inviting them to join in their they'd be at home wanking instead.

We don't meet single men that often because they promise so much and deliver jack shit for 90% of the time. Much rather meet a m/f Cpls any day x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's getting to the point where single guys actually think they are doing you a favour by meeting lol.

They seem to forget that without couples inviting them to join in their they'd be at home wanking instead.

We don't meet single men that often because they promise so much and deliver jack shit for 90% of the time. Much rather meet a m/f Cpls any day x"

here here :D

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Have you ever wondered why there are so many single guys on this site.

Is it that they choose to remain single or is it that they simply cannot get a girlfriend?

We frequently meet single guys and it's surpassing how many turn up empty handed. Not only do some guys not bring anything to drink, but don't bring condoms either.

Some guys say that they didn't know if we preferred white or red so they didn't bring anything. Rather strange logic!!!

I would suggest if that's how a guy treats a lady then no wonder he is single. Women love to be pampered. "

Correct me if Ia m wrong, but it is still the 21st century isn't it?

Why should a single guy be made to bring stuff along? What would the OP feel like if I said couples were numpties because they had never brought me a gift? Pretty crap I reckon.

Yes, they should bring condoms, but then everyone should, but why should they bring gifts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop dissing the single guys... . There are some fabulous single guys on this site..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Correct me if Ia m wrong, but it is still the 21st century isn't it?

Why should a single guy be made to bring stuff along? What would the OP feel like if I said couples were numpties because they had never brought me a gift? Pretty crap I reckon.

Yes, they should bring condoms, but then everyone should, but why should they bring gifts?"

Its not a question of being politically correct and changing with the times, its simply being courteous. Whether its a swinging party or not, to turn up without a bottle is discourteous. You would expect to drink that persons wine but wouldn't bring any of your own? It would be a pretty boring party if we all sat round drinking water.

A guy contacted us recently for some fun. We told him we didn't accommodate so he asked us to book a hotel room and he would visit us. He didn't even offer a contribution to the cost of the room. When we raised the question about sharing the cost his reply was, 'You must be joking'.

I'm sure that most reasonable people would agree that when invited to a party it is good manners and 'de rigueur' to take a bottle of wine. Of course, there is no accounting for taste...

QED

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe it may have something to do with a big number of the "single" guys have wives/girlfriends at home that know nothing of thier particpation on a sex site and even so much as purchasing a bottle of wine may get found out and heaven forbid they find condoms about thier person lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I think it is a tad harsh with the OP. Just because you have found someone in life doesnt mean all single men on here havent had relationships or in between them lol. as for me I always am polite and on meets always offer bringing a beverage of their choice.

P.S Not everyones lucky enough to have found that perfect someone but those that have one but cheat behind their partner's backs on here should really reconsider their lives because its incredibly deceitful and probably accounts for many of the timewasters on this site

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By *wansea_richMan
over a year ago

swansea

think i'm going to fan the flames on this one, and give an interesting quote by stephen fry

"If women liked sex as much as men, there would be straight cruising areas in the way there are gay cruising areas. Women would go and hang around in churchyards thinking: ‘God, I’ve got to get my fucking rocks off’, or they’d go to Hampstead Heath and meet strangers to shag behind a bush. It doesn’t happen. Why? Because the only women you can have sex with like that wish to be paid for it. I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want. Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, ‘Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!’ But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

re the issue over wine, it's more about who you are, if you were invited to a friends for dinner, you would either turn up with a bottle or not.

Am single by choice, whether i meet someone that looks to persue this lifestyle only time will tell...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"think i'm going to fan the flames on this one, and give an interesting quote by stephen fry

"If women liked sex as much as men, there would be straight cruising areas in the way there are gay cruising areas. Women would go and hang around in churchyards thinking: ‘God, I’ve got to get my fucking rocks off’, or they’d go to Hampstead Heath and meet strangers to shag behind a bush. It doesn’t happen. Why? Because the only women you can have sex with like that wish to be paid for it. I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want. Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, ‘Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!’ But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

re the issue over wine, it's more about who you are, if you were invited to a friends for dinner, you would either turn up with a bottle or not.

Am single by choice, whether i meet someone that looks to persue this lifestyle only time will tell..."

he got a lot of abuse of leading feminist groups for that I remember when that was in the news lol

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By *elshguy34Man
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

I'm single because I am at the moment came out of a long term relationship early last year so just taking time out and enjoying myself.

I also date outside the lifestyle and if something develops out of one of them great. If I was with someone and they were not part of the lifestyle then I'd be happy to concentrate on building the relationship with that person. I do this for fun nothing more as there are some great people on this site and have made some great friends

As I tend to meet mostly at my place I always make sure I find out if my meet would like a drink etc beforehand and will pick up a bottle of whatever it is theyd like to have for the evening. Its just something I like to do to make the person as welcome and relaxed as possible as we all know how nerve wracking it can be when meeting someone for the first time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally have never expected men, or anyone to bring a drink over. If they do, cool, but I wouldn't see it as rude if not.

At the end of the day, they are there for me to screw, not to have a date or a meal with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh i forgot regarding accomodation I'm always happy if require to split hotel costs or accomodate however in past experience I found it rude that i was asked to supply a 4* minimum hotel room by a couple who wasn't local and contacted me!

I actually gave them a piece of my mind for the cheek of it! End of the day it should be a mutual agreement between the two parties no matter what the meet is and arranged prior to the meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I personally have never expected men, or anyone to bring a drink over. If they do, cool, but I wouldn't see it as rude if not.

At the end of the day, they are there for me to screw, not to have a date or a meal with."

Couldn't agree more its a swingers site not come dine with me !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just putting my tuppence worth in here....surely if the guy is driving, why would he want a drink anyway???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just putting my tuppence worth in here....surely if the guy is driving, why would he want a drink anyway???"

I always bring it as a gift rather than to consume cant stand the stuff myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every single guy we have met on here have profiled that they are this macho stud but delivered just the opposite.The first cum before we even started and sped of in his car and the second well we will not go in to this it was mildly embarasing.Not looking to insite but we tend to skip these days and stick to couples.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems that the op has asked two questions so I will respond like wise.

(1)

Well as a “single” guy I have chosen to remain single and not because I don’t know how to treat a lady.

I do find the ops remark that they automatically assume the guy they are meeting is going to bring any kind of alcoholic drink a bit presumptuous. When I do meet I drive therefore it would be totally irresponsible for me to drink or are they expecting me to forfeit my licence for a possible night of passion?

(2)


" Whether it’s a swinging party or not, to turn up without a bottle is discourteous"

How can it be discourteous to not bring a bottle? Is that the same mentality of “you’re shagging my wife so you can bring a gift?” or is it that you need to get wasted before anything happens and you’re too tight to by your own alcohol?

It is true that the general opinion is single guys are in fact not single and I could say the same for some of the single ladies. Regardless of why they choose that status is their choice, after all they “singletons” are filling your needs. There was a really good post on single swingers I forget where I read it so to be brief. Couples include singles into their relationship both men and women, be it because there is insecurity, jealousy or for other reasons. The singleton is then given a “thank you for coming” no pun intended at the end of the meet and they get sent on their way to sleep in their bed alone for the night, very courteous.

Maybe that’s a conscious choice they make who knows. What I do know is both parties should bring protection have a mutual respect for each other and not presume anything.

As it was so eloquently put


" they are there for me to screw, not to have a date or a meal with. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sHang on im off to tesco for the swinging shopping !

So I need.....

Condoms....check

Alcohol....check

plenty of money.....check

and manners......check

oh crap !.....and a cock

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I'm sure that most reasonable people would agree that when invited to a party it is good manners and 'de rigueur' to take a bottle of wine. Of course, there is no accounting for taste...

QED

"

Your original post didn't mention parties. If you are going to change the goalposts then at least let us know!

A party is different, but surely then it is up to the organiser to let people know what is expected? If a party doesn't state BYOB then I think someone should be forgiven for not bringing something. But a private meet, just you and them, why should they bring something? And it has nothing to do with being 'politically correct' . It's 2012 so why do single men have to spend money on couples and single females? Would you expect a single female to bring a bottle? If not, why not?

Honestly, the entitlement in this post. Shocking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we met in a pub or club then hell yes id buy you a drink,, but if im coming around to meet at a home then no i would not bring any drink atall (after all its you misis you should be pampering her) some people would think its a dam cheek to bring a bottle, its like asif your swapping booze for sex,.....

Thats just my veiw but and ive never been brought up about it.

Single men are like marmite you either love us or hate us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

to the post author, i must admit i have been extremely lucky. I think nearly every man from fab i have met have always brought me something whether it be flowers, wine or choccie, never came empty handed, but if they did no matter that aint wot the site is about is it he he have fun sexy people single married or inbetween xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont know what on earth they are on about..the post authors profile states they dont accomodate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enough said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single men are single because they are ...... some damn decent single guys on here and some damn not so decent,which could also be said for single ladies yep i said it ),and couples.... Just as in all walks of this life we lead,so please less of the single bashing and have some fecking fun....... by the way cj ya left ya cock in tesco ffs .....

Have a good one all and dont forget a bottle on your next adventure just encase gifts maybe needed .....better still tea bags or latte would do for me pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't think anyones right or wrong. Some have had great experiences and some ain't. Some like to be treated a certain way and some don't care so no one's going to agree.

Overall our luck with singles has been crap therefore we don't do it often because if we find one we like it's usually the case that he's shagged everything that moves going by his validations. Wether it's right or wrong we judge people's standards by who they've met.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

As with most posts there are some that do and some that don't, some that regard it as good manners and others who might regard it as an insult. Some might regard a persons manners as a reflection of their personality and others who simply do not care a damn.

At the end of the day we chat and exchange messages with a person before agreeing to meet. Whether we agree to meet that person will be dependent on not only their looks and physical attributes but their personality too and how we gel with them. Of course each of these requirements will have a different ranking.

To be realistic, this site is abundant with single guys. Some are genuine and some are not. Some single guys masquerade as a couple and other single guys have equally convincing stories to improve their chances of selection.

A couple looking for a single guy can therefore afford to be choosy whereas the single guy should ensure that he presents himself in a way to rank better than his contemporaries.

Of course this is entirely subjective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

pmsl

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"pmsl"

What do you mean by PMS, apart from the obvious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"pmsl

What do you mean by PMS, apart from the obvious?"

IM language for Pissing Myself Laughing. Mostly it's not literally meant but it's commonly used when something strikes someone as extremely funny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ive been a single male for around a year now because i choose to be single, do miss cutchy nights tho now and again tho

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

..."Couples include singles into their relationship both men and women, be it because there is insecurity, jealousy or for other reasons."

I have to take issues with this. In our experience we have found that, far from the reasons above, most (admittedly not all) swinging couples include singles in their fun because in fact they are MORE secure, with less jealousy.

In our case it was a sharing of fantasies that eventually led us here.

As for the issue of "BYOB" so to speak, there are very valid points in both the "for" and "against" camps, but for us, we offer, its then up to our hosts to let us know if they have a preference.

"Its nice to be nice".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they must be like me ugly thats y we can pull.lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"..."Couples include singles into their relationship both men and women, be it because there is insecurity, jealousy or for other reasons."

"

Not that I want to change the ops initial comment. There seems to be some misinterpretation it was intended to read, "couples prefer singles to other couples for the reasons stated" although some would disagree

Must proof read in future

I still wouldnt take a bottle though

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"pmsl"

A valuable contribution to this thread no doubt...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Treat people as you'd like to be treated is usually a good way to go.

Single guys are there simply to fuck for want of a better word. Never have and never would socialise with single guys. No need as we're not looking for a longterm thing from, just a one off.

Most still promise the earth saying they are going to do this and going to do that etc but then it's a huge let down. It's why we very rarely bother.

But for those who enjoy it then that's great and we can understand where your coming from x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With single males the thing is with couples women n other males or what ever uve got to respect he wishes on the profile, me I do tha I'm qenuine cause I'm on cam most nights and I don't pretend to be fake just be urself I do n I've mett a few decent women on here n also be polite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As this is a debate and not an argument, I will throw my thoughts into the ring.

I tend to agree with those who are suggesting that some men lack manners or some kind of common courtesy. This, however, can also apply to some females and even couples.

Personally, apart from the odd time when I may have met somebody at extremely short notice, I would not dream of turning up empty handed. Perhaps it is my culture or upbringing but I would not turn up at somebody else's house without a bottle of wine (even though I don't drink) and perhaps a box of chocolates or a plant/flowers. When I have turned up empty handed, I have been extremely apologetic before I even met them and on one occasion, sent some flowers the following day.

This isn't about being nice for nice sake but if you are going into somebody else's home for something other than to read the meter, surely you take a little something along with you. If I was invited round for dinner, I would do the same, I don't understand why you would not if being invited round for something more (you all know what I mean).

Even if you are meeting the least accepting people of gifts in the world, it really won't hurt. If it makes a good impression, why not? So many times I have met people who do not seem to want to at least smile which is a shame because we always want to leave with a smile.

To not bring condoms is also a bit of a bad move aswell.

My rules are always dress well, smell good, bring a little something and of course, condoms. I am not dressed by other people so why I should expect them to dress my cock before having sex is expecting too much from someone you have just met. If you get more then take it as a sign of being liked and welcome...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Have you ever wondered why there are so many single guys on this site.

Is it that they choose to remain single or is it that they simply cannot get a girlfriend?

We frequently meet single guys and it's surpassing how many turn up empty handed. Not only do some guys not bring anything to drink, but don't bring condoms either.

Some guys say that they didn't know if we preferred white or red so they didn't bring anything. Rather strange logic!!!

I would suggest if that's how a guy treats a lady then no wonder he is single. Women love to be pampered. "

or maybe.... just maybe that says just as much about you in the way that you choose the single men you play with.... as it does about some single men itself...

I know... its a radical concept.. looking hard at the way you do your swinging and the people you are attracting.......

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i know its a radical concept... but the last time i checked couples were not doing single guys a favour and vice versa.... the whole point of swinging was that EVERYBODY got a good experience out of it....

i have said no thank you to as many couples as have said no thank you to me.... and if one side think they hold the upper hand over the other, then frankly THIS nice guy would tell you where exactly you could go.....

my house isn't to be used as some kind of knocking shop just because you "don't accomidate" just as it would be seen the other way round.....

I am not available at someones beckon call just because they are a couple just as it would be the other way round...

notice a pattern coming on here....

I am as valueble as a single guy in the scene as much as any couple......

high and mighty attitudes are the same whether they come from couples, single guys or single ladies.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It is just a question of manners and common courtesy. If we are invited to a party (swinging or otherwise), be it with a couple or single guy, we would always take a bottle or two of wine. It's called manners.

By not agreeing with this speaks volumes.

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple
over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine

surely if wine and safe sex is wanted it would of been spoke maybe on phone about before any one has set off to travel we do the email bit but always get on the phone and sort the details out ,did you ask the fella to bring sum wine or speak about having a drink ,condoms we now use our own ,but have met singles when it was there first time and maybe sumits been forgot maybe down to nerves ect but would challenge there life style ie single just because of that or class one single fella the same as another ,dont make sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we are invited to a party (swinging or otherwise), be it with a couple or single guy, we would always take a bottle or two of wine.

"

Is this for your own consumption or the other parties ?

So in an effort to get the thread back to the initial question of "why single men are single"

It seems to be from the posts that the majority is out of choice. There will always be a greater ratio of men than couples and the time I've been on the scene a vast amount of "single guys" will either get a fuck buddy or leave the scene. Very few actually last and even fewer get the reputation to warrant spending the time to meet.

I would repeat what was stated above

"I know... its a radical concept.. looking hard at the way you do your swinging and the people you are attracting......."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well your lucky to have a mrs Mr interesting ? Whats your thoughts on single women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yes are you looking for meets or free wine and condoms ? il bring a case of red and white ! and a condom x

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple
over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine


"Oh yes are you looking for meets or free wine and condoms ? il bring a case of red and white ! and a condom x "
id rather use a glass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

By not agreeing with this speaks volumes."

I beg to differ.

Last I checked, I was here for fun, flirting and to broaden my sexual horizons.

Not for a winetasting session.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"

By not agreeing with this speaks volumes.

I beg to differ.

Last I checked, I was here for fun, flirting and to broaden my sexual horizons.

Not for a winetasting session."

Don't forget to crook your little finger like so when drinking tea, oh, and probably best to avail yourself of a quality broadsheet for the pre-coital natter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

By not agreeing with this speaks volumes.

I beg to differ.

Last I checked, I was here for fun, flirting and to broaden my sexual horizons.

Not for a winetasting session."

Ava it's a deal ! lets do it

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple
over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine


"Dull"
and whats the forecast for the w/end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't believe this is still going. There's never going to be agreement.

To be honest there's one thing that miffs us more than guys with no manners and that's receiving mail from guys who's profile says 'size, shape and looks unimportant'.

How the hell do they think that makes the female feel? Block the dickheads everytime. No standards = no meet.

And before it's said, yes some couples don't have any standards either (usually the ones that meet the formentioned single men)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

By not agreeing with this speaks volumes.

I beg to differ.

Last I checked, I was here for fun, flirting and to broaden my sexual horizons.

Not for a winetasting session.

Ava it's a deal ! lets do it "

Hop on, babeh!;)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hop on, babeh!;)"

Trust CJ to get in there before me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I personally have never expected men, or anyone to bring a drink over. If they do, cool, but I wouldn't see it as rude if not.

At the end of the day, they are there for me to screw, not to have a date or a meal with.

Couldn't agree more its a swingers site not come dine with me !! "

Fab comment ,swinging not come dine with me, lol fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't mind bringing a bottle! I've even been known to turn up with a bunch of flowers for the lady of the house. But make no mistake, some of us on here, due to natures' design, have been endowed with penises that are larger and thicker than the average. We also have more staying power that most and can repeat and have multiple orgasms while delivering what can sometimes be your partners' best of sexual experience of her life so far.

There is no equality for men aren't created equal, especially when it comes to sex.

If you want free wine....cool..I'll bring a £4.99 bottle of Jacobs Creek, but if your wife or partner is looking for a certain kind of experience, then manners are free....but the sex is priceless!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't mind bringing a bottle! I've even been known to turn up with a bunch of flowers for the lady of the house. But make no mistake, some of us on here, due to natures' design, have been endowed with penises that are larger and thicker than the average. We also have more staying power that most and can repeat and have multiple orgasms while delivering what can sometimes be your partners' best of sexual experience of her life so far.

There is no equality for men aren't created equal, especially when it comes to sex.

If you want free wine....cool..I'll bring a £4.99 bottle of Jacobs Creek, but if your wife or partner is looking for a certain kind of experience, then manners are free....but the sex is priceless!

"

You've just put so many women off you by bigging yourself up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've just put so many women off you by bigging yourself up. "

Oh I don't know if he has, but the photos of him having unprotected sex might

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've just put so many women off you by bigging yourself up.

Oh I don't know if he has, but the photos of him having unprotected sex might "

We can only go by what the fems of the cpls we meet say.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


"You've just put so many women off you by bigging yourself up.

Oh I don't know if he has, but the photos of him having unprotected sex might "

Another 10 ft on the barge pole and still no !!! Not even with a bottle of blue nun !

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over a year ago


"You've just put so many women off you by bigging yourself up.

Oh I don't know if he has, but the photos of him having unprotected sex might

Another 10 ft on the barge pole and still no !!! Not even with a bottle of blue nun ! "

Fair play, thats funny lol

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Random meets generally manifests itself in random results...its therefore amazing what a little communication can achieve! Any meets we've had have always been on the back of a lot of chatting and a lot of getting to know the person so only yourself to blame when it doesn't quite go according to your standards.

Plus forget manners, etiquette or convention...this is Fab and we all know how nervous and pre-occupied a person can get before a meet.

I'm with the single guys on this argument! Then again I would say that lol.

Amelie x

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By *iggers4uCouple
over a year ago

Over down by There

As in life.......manners cost nothing but mean so much.....

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By *reenmbMan
over a year ago

Gwent

hate bad manners but some guys are just ....single widower/divorcees/just single....

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