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"Any form of negative feedback system is open to abuse so if therefore not viable I miss the old Fab The one where the single guys grasped the purpose of the site and not the one where they just see it (and us single females) as a place to empty their balls. The fun has gone out of it. The banter & flirting in a build up to a no pressure, mutually enjoyable meet has gone and has instead been replaced by men, in whatever state they present themselves (and lets's face it a lot are no less than repulsive), expecting us to be available at the click of their fingers waiting for them with our cunts wet and legs open. "But this is a sex site" they protest when politely told they are not what we are looking for. I feel your pain Jo I really do " You've hit the nail right on the head here, had this same conversation with JoJo last night. I'm looking to come back as a single after a long break but I just can't cope with the mentality of the guys now, I'm not a wank rag or a cum dump, even cum sluts seeking that would expect a measure of respect. I know I can't have sex with someone I don't fancy & can't converse with, doesn't mean I'm looking to marry them, just have some way to fill the gaps between sex rounds X | |||
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"Think the new(ish) owners probably looking to maximise the revenue so they don't want to rock the boat. Really what it needs is a feedback system which impacts a users search placing so time wasters sink to the bottom and largely ignored. But then they don't pay because the site "doesn't work" and that i guess is bad for business." newish owners they been owners for many years after sluttycpl but iu agree site has gone down hardly anyone using chat rooms but still lots of meets to be had. At one time site was strict with profiles singles only allowed one but a cple allowed cples profile one each now anyone can have as many different profiles as they like and it leaves the way open for timewasters and troublemakers but hey ho maybe it will get back to how it used to be a few years ago we hope have fun | |||
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"I think a lot of people - particularly males - get fed up because people don't reply - even if it was a 'not interested'. I am aware that women are inundated with messages and there are a lot of nutters in here so I get why people don't want to engage - I think a 'No Show' button that flags no shows up on the persons page would sort it out " I get fed up with guys that moan about no replies. First day back on fab after a break and I got over 400 messages in one day. I had no veris and no pic at the time! How is anyone expected to reply to that amount of messages and still find time to have fun? Personally if we got rid of all the guys that get fed up with no replies you'd be left with the patient, decent guys who understand it takes more than a quick message to get some mutually enjoyable fun. I also agree with all the other ladies, been off and on for about 6 years now and Its become hard work to out the idiots looking for a quickie. And as for a no show flag, well that only helps guys find the women that meet. Does nothing for us ladies. Theres thousands of guys on here that will turn up to every meet dosent mean they get what it takes to make a good meet! | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse" Agree with pretty much all of that. | |||
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"Having been a member from when fab first started I think these "problems" have always been there. It's just the way society has become with everyone thinking what they want is just a click away. The inherent increase of numbers also has attributed to the problems that were always there being much more noticeable. Yes single guys mess people about, chat has changed, and yes fab has become an online revenue stream for its owners. But as others have said, couples also mess people around, single females mess people around, and any negative feedback option would only be abused. So the owners are in a catch 22. If they allow negative feedback there will be abuse of it, and if they limit membership they reduce their income. There are many ways to combat the problems of this site without a negative feedback option. If you take the time to read some really useful forum posts there can be ways to make fab a much more enjoyable time for all of you. I'm the prime example of a single male who had a lot of success and found his swinging partner here. Fab is only going to get better if you all make it better." This | |||
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"have never known the wales room to be 0 for so long on a saturday where have they all gone, lol xxx " I'm way too busy for chat lately | |||
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"have never known the wales room to be 0 for so long on a saturday where have they all gone, lol xxx I'm way too busy for chat lately " know the feeling kiddo hope your keeping well xx | |||
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"Any form of negative feedback system is open to abuse so if therefore not viable I miss the old Fab The one where the single guys grasped the purpose of the site and not the one where they just see it (and us single females) as a place to empty their balls. The fun has gone out of it. The banter & flirting in a build up to a no pressure, mutually enjoyable meet has gone and has instead been replaced by men, in whatever state they present themselves (and lets's face it a lot are no less than repulsive), expecting us to be available at the click of their fingers waiting for them with our cunts wet and legs open. "But this is a sex site" they protest when politely told they are not what we are looking for. I feel your pain Jo I really do " Well said ms P This is exactly what's happened here And like yourself I miss the old fab | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse" Sad to say, but i have to agree with this. It's not just single men.There are some single women on here, when you read their profiles, its mind boggling. I got messaged by one very recently, who was all 'up for fun', and very descriptive about what she wanted and how she was going to be 'very dirty', etc...she even booked a hotel room, then she backed out at the absolute last second, citing that she really wasn't the type of person she'd made herself out to be...! Having made arrangements over several days beforehand, with messages flying back and forth, and plenty of photos so we both knew what to expect on the night, unfortunately that seems to be how the new 'generation' of members approaches the site. It's not just single guys destroying the site, its across the board, across all categories of membership...the newbies who don't understand where this site came from and how to use it properly. | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse" Sorry but this is one of the many examples why the site has gone down hill, jumping to opinions, making incorrect conclusions blah, blah, blah. Couples & females are just as likely to piss about as guy's & most the women I'm friends with aren't looking for 6' plus meatheads, we're simply looking for normal, polite, funny respectful & above all else not needy or whiney. I have a couple of lovely regular meets but they certainly don't fit to the descriptions you're throwing out lol, looks aren't everything thankfully or I'd be on the scrap heap long before now X | |||
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"Why don't people just block men if it's such a nightmare and go looking for themselves?, this is a genuine question." Only as I run a social and it would be very hard work if a lot of the people who wanted to attend couldn't p.m me. Same reason why I unblocked unverified members, as the daytime social can be a good starting point for them, and as an organiser it would be pretty shit if those people wanting to make the effort to come couldn't make contact That's my personal reason. If I'm looking for a one to one meet I usually use the advanced search criteria and then contact the type of guys I am looking for It works ok for me | |||
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"Why don't people just block men if it's such a nightmare and go looking for themselves?, this is a genuine question. Only as I run a social and it would be very hard work if a lot of the people who wanted to attend couldn't p.m me. Same reason why I unblocked unverified members, as the daytime social can be a good starting point for them, and as an organiser it would be pretty shit if those people wanting to make the effort to come couldn't make contact That's my personal reason. If I'm looking for a one to one meet I usually use the advanced search criteria and then contact the type of guys I am looking for It works ok for me " That's a fair reason. This question wasn't aimed at anyone in particular but we was/are interested as the males do get bashed a hell of a lot.. our profile is nine words long and we get very few crap messages, the ones we do get just get ignored so no stress from us. | |||
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"Why don't people just block men if it's such a nightmare and go looking for themselves?, this is a genuine question. Only as I run a social and it would be very hard work if a lot of the people who wanted to attend couldn't p.m me. Same reason why I unblocked unverified members, as the daytime social can be a good starting point for them, and as an organiser it would be pretty shit if those people wanting to make the effort to come couldn't make contact That's my personal reason. If I'm looking for a one to one meet I usually use the advanced search criteria and then contact the type of guys I am looking for It works ok for me " That's how I do it lol, guys, newbies & unverified blocked & I look X | |||
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"Why don't people just block men if it's such a nightmare and go looking for themselves?, this is a genuine question. Only as I run a social and it would be very hard work if a lot of the people who wanted to attend couldn't p.m me. Same reason why I unblocked unverified members, as the daytime social can be a good starting point for them, and as an organiser it would be pretty shit if those people wanting to make the effort to come couldn't make contact That's my personal reason. If I'm looking for a one to one meet I usually use the advanced search criteria and then contact the type of guys I am looking for It works ok for me That's a fair reason. This question wasn't aimed at anyone in particular but we was/are interested as the males do get bashed a hell of a lot.. our profile is nine words long and we get very few crap messages, the ones we do get just get ignored so no stress from us." I love single guys and I am far from bashing them as they are the only ones I meet to fuck But it was just a general observation of how the attitudes of some have declined rapidly over the years. I was by no way tarring them all with the same brush and I have been lucky enough to have meet and still meet some belters over the years. I couldn't comment on couples or single females as I don't communicate with them unless for social reasons, hence why I only mentioned single guys in my post | |||
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"Why don't people just block men if it's such a nightmare and go looking for themselves?, this is a genuine question. Only as I run a social and it would be very hard work if a lot of the people who wanted to attend couldn't p.m me. Same reason why I unblocked unverified members, as the daytime social can be a good starting point for them, and as an organiser it would be pretty shit if those people wanting to make the effort to come couldn't make contact That's my personal reason. If I'm looking for a one to one meet I usually use the advanced search criteria and then contact the type of guys I am looking for It works ok for me That's a fair reason. This question wasn't aimed at anyone in particular but we was/are interested as the males do get bashed a hell of a lot.. our profile is nine words long and we get very few crap messages, the ones we do get just get ignored so no stress from us. I love single guys and I am far from bashing them as they are the only ones I meet to fuck But it was just a general observation of how the attitudes of some have declined rapidly over the years. I was by no way tarring them all with the same brush and I have been lucky enough to have meet and still meet some belters over the years. I couldn't comment on couples or single females as I don't communicate with them unless for social reasons, hence why I only mentioned single guys in my post " We would say that the same % of couples and single men are a waste of space which thankfully isn't high. Same as you but with single fems we wouldn't know as we have no interest in meeting them. | |||
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"Any form of negative feedback system is open to abuse so if therefore not viable I miss the old Fab The one where the single guys grasped the purpose of the site and not the one where they just see it (and us single females) as a place to empty their balls. The fun has gone out of it. The banter & flirting in a build up to a no pressure, mutually enjoyable meet has gone and has instead been replaced by men, in whatever state they present themselves (and lets's face it a lot are no less than repulsive), expecting us to be available at the click of their fingers waiting for them with our cunts wet and legs open. "But this is a sex site" they protest when politely told they are not what we are looking for. I feel your pain Jo I really do " This..totally and utterly | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse Agree with pretty much all of that. " I disagree with lots of it ..... Women don't "think" they can cherry pic ..they CAN cherry pick... and we have every right to do so.. why would I or should I have sex with somebody I don't fancy ..so of course we are going to "cherry pick" We don't reply to all mail because it's impossible ..again why do we have to reply no sorry when it opens is up to abuse anyway ...do you reply no thanks to all promotional offers that comes through door..email ... Same goes to not replying to those we don't find aesthetically pleasing.... if I'm looking for a tall black guy..why get into message ping pong with 5ft dai with blonde hair ??? | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse Agree with pretty much all of that. I disagree with lots of it ..... Women don't "think" they can cherry pic ..they CAN cherry pick... and we have every right to do so.. why would I or should I have sex with somebody I don't fancy ..so of course we are going to "cherry pick" We don't reply to all mail because it's impossible ..again why do we have to reply no sorry when it opens is up to abuse anyway ...do you reply no thanks to all promotional offers that comes through door..email ... Same goes to not replying to those we don't find aesthetically pleasing.... if I'm looking for a tall black guy..why get into message ping pong with 5ft dai with blonde hair ??? " Very much this | |||
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"Well after several years and some amazing meets and some regrets later I would have to agree the site is a pile of crap now. "Time wasters" have always been about and always will Ratio of men to women will always be there, although not as high as some would think. The chat room got bitchy, and not a nice place to be, R.I.P. Women very rarely reply to mails, unless they mailed first. Posting a meet has resulted in ZERO results for me. Women have "types" and want "A decent guy" so they think they can cherry pick who they want, yet when a single "decent guy" sends a polite mail they get blanked because they don't look aesthetically pleasing or their "type". When they do arrange a meet they get no shows, which results in bitchy moody status updates or comments in the forums (err.. no thanks). Guys get frustrated, so make more than one account in the hope of achieving a result or mass mail which in turn makes it worse. It's not all bad, socials, club meets and special events organised by genuine swingers happen. Bashing the single guy for the site being crap feels good but it's not a one sided story, women are as much to blame expecting unrealistic expectations from guys, we're not all 6 foot plus meat heads. If I could roll back the clock I would have left with someone years ago. Its sad to say I've had more luck on a d*unken night out lately than on here. So yes my opinion it has changed and for the worse Agree with pretty much all of that. I disagree with lots of it ..... Women don't "think" they can cherry pic ..they CAN cherry pick... and we have every right to do so.. why would I or should I have sex with somebody I don't fancy ..so of course we are going to "cherry pick" We don't reply to all mail because it's impossible ..again why do we have to reply no sorry when it opens is up to abuse anyway ...do you reply no thanks to all promotional offers that comes through door..email ... Same goes to not replying to those we don't find aesthetically pleasing.... if I'm looking for a tall black guy..why get into message ping pong with 5ft dai with blonde hair ??? " Too bloody right, guys are allowed to specify what they want, all be it related to boob size, having a hole, being hot or not but we're slated for liking what we like. Give me a 6' demi god & I wouldn't know what to do with him, give me a normal respectful guy I can have a giggle with over shared interests & I'll be on it. My standards will remain with me regardless X | |||
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"I regularly get shit for wanting younger fit rugby players. But they are what I want and what I will continue to have as and when I find one that I want to fuck. Why should I go for something that doesn't appeal to me?? I have never really understood that mentality" Hey P, they're my preference as well & if Ch3wy can live with it I'm fucked if I'll let other people judge it. I've always said I'm here to live out my fantasies & that's what I'm doing, as is Ch3wy. The real life is for mundane & yep I easily pull in real life but at my age would I really pull a fit as fuck 30 year old | |||
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"I've been on here a little while now had a couple of meets and socials etc, it is what it is, the opportunity to speak to and have a laugh, ideally with like minded people. I think it's fair to say that you get what you give. Don't get me wrong there are tech improvements that could make the site a bit better. Live chat, meet me kind of things to help encourage mutual likes but other than that... " But site improvements will cost us more as members If,and there are many that aren't, you're a site member that's all well and good. Many are attracted to this site because it's free and you get a lot for nothing. Which can be its own worst enemy Far too easy to create a profile and cause havoc | |||
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"I regularly get shit for wanting younger fit rugby players. But they are what I want and what I will continue to have as and when I find one that I want to fuck. Why should I go for something that doesn't appeal to me?? I have never really understood that mentality Hey P, they're my preference as well & if Ch3wy can live with it I'm fucked if I'll let other people judge it. I've always said I'm here to live out my fantasies & that's what I'm doing, as is Ch3wy. The real life is for mundane & yep I easily pull in real life but at my age would I really pull a fit as fuck 30 year old " Same lovely girl In real life my fat ass probably wouldn't pull the standard I get to meet here .. but hang on ...that is fair on the whingers. .so I'll set my standard's lower to acommodate all those I don't find attractive just to make the site fair ah come on will you It isn't cherry picking .its having types..standards and preferances x | |||
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"I regularly get shit for wanting younger fit rugby players. But they are what I want and what I will continue to have as and when I find one that I want to fuck. Why should I go for something that doesn't appeal to me?? I have never really understood that mentality" xx | |||
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"I regularly get shit for wanting younger fit rugby players. But they are what I want and what I will continue to have as and when I find one that I want to fuck. Why should I go for something that doesn't appeal to me?? I have never really understood that mentality Hey P, they're my preference as well & if Ch3wy can live with it I'm fucked if I'll let other people judge it. I've always said I'm here to live out my fantasies & that's what I'm doing, as is Ch3wy. The real life is for mundane & yep I easily pull in real life but at my age would I really pull a fit as fuck 30 year old " It's just when men try to persuade me that I shouldn't go for what I actually want and should infact go for them instead. If I messaged a guy and he said no thanks I want a petite size 8 blonde I would hardly go on pestering and trying to persuade him why he should go for the opposite of what he is actually looking for. It makes no logical sense | |||
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" There are many more men than women on this site, so the women can pick and choose which men they meet and that how it should any way. No one should you just because you want to meet them , they should meet you because they want to and I sure it lot more fun that way." Les gets it It really isn't very difficult And that is why he does very well as a single male on the site | |||
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"I've been on here a little while now had a couple of meets and socials etc, it is what it is, the opportunity to speak to and have a laugh, ideally with like minded people. I think it's fair to say that you get what you give. Don't get me wrong there are tech improvements that could make the site a bit better. Live chat, meet me kind of things to help encourage mutual likes but other than that... But site improvements will cost us more as members If,and there are many that aren't, you're a site member that's all well and good. Many are attracted to this site because it's free and you get a lot for nothing. Which can be its own worst enemy Far too easy to create a profile and cause havoc " Then maybe make it a pay only site, or a site that restricts more than it does already. If you were that impatient or dissatisfied with the site you wouldn't pay for it in the first place. Just a suggestion?! | |||
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"I've been on here a little while now had a couple of meets and socials etc, it is what it is, the opportunity to speak to and have a laugh, ideally with like minded people. I think it's fair to say that you get what you give. Don't get me wrong there are tech improvements that could make the site a bit better. Live chat, meet me kind of things to help encourage mutual likes but other than that... But site improvements will cost us more as members If,and there are many that aren't, you're a site member that's all well and good. Many are attracted to this site because it's free and you get a lot for nothing. Which can be its own worst enemy Far too easy to create a profile and cause havoc Then maybe make it a pay only site, or a site that restricts more than it does already. If you were that impatient or dissatisfied with the site you wouldn't pay for it in the first place. Just a suggestion?! " Makes sense tbh Making the minimum silver site supporter subscription compulsory to join would probably put off a lot of the repeat offenders | |||
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"Na..I think it's the elf hat" Les is just a nice, normal guy who knows how to communicate in a respectful way. But the hat does help lol X | |||
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"Na..I think it's the elf hat Les is just a nice, normal guy who knows how to communicate in a respectful way. But the hat does help lol X" Hehehe I knew it ! That's where the rest of em are going wrong x | |||
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"Fab is what you make of it imho,both males and females maybe expect a little to much here. Maybe if we all lowered our expectations it would be fun again. " This guy | |||
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"I've been on here a little while now had a couple of meets and socials etc, it is what it is, the opportunity to speak to and have a laugh, ideally with like minded people. I think it's fair to say that you get what you give. Don't get me wrong there are tech improvements that could make the site a bit better. Live chat, meet me kind of things to help encourage mutual likes but other than that... But site improvements will cost us more as members If,and there are many that aren't, you're a site member that's all well and good. Many are attracted to this site because it's free and you get a lot for nothing. Which can be its own worst enemy Far too easy to create a profile and cause havoc Then maybe make it a pay only site, or a site that restricts more than it does already. If you were that impatient or dissatisfied with the site you wouldn't pay for it in the first place. Just a suggestion?! Makes sense tbh Making the minimum silver site supporter subscription compulsory to join would probably put off a lot of the repeat offenders" Tbh paying only £5 as a silver supporter is nothing There are a lot more sites out there which are premium rate greater than £20 per month It still doesn't deter the knobs, but stops the repeat offending | |||
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"Fab is what you make of it imho,both males and females maybe expect a little to much here. Maybe if we all lowered our expectations it would be fun again. " Well said Mr Banging | |||
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"After being away for a bit I have to say it seems a lot quieter - maybe it's the time of year, not sure...? I do think something needs to be done to address the timewasters etc. But I don't think it needs to be too drastic or cost anything. My solution would be to make the free private photo verification compulsory as I genuinely think many people with no real interest in the site would fail at that first hurdle. Might cause an admin headache for the owners though - but there could be a 'pre-approved' status to get round that? I figure if you can't even be bothered putting up a private verification photo - you aren't interested in taking the site seriously. That's my 2p anyway" So, grabbing a hot photo off the interwebby, and photoshopping a piece of paper onto it with our profile name is going to help? I'll get right on it.! | |||
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"Been here 8 years as a couple & single & never photo verified, my long term stalker photo verifies & pays site supporter everyone he joins, once that was 5 times in one day, I'd say it's not effective. I'd like to know why ip addresses aren't used more, they're used to prevent people verifying themselves so why not take this a step further?" That too. Just an idea... | |||
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