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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

THIS DEFINITELY DOES SEEM TO MAKE SENSE.

LET'S TRY IT!

We are hitting £129.9 a litre in some areas now and soon we will be faced with paying £1.50 per litre. So Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign' that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it. and if you agree, join in...

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers, control the market place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year (2011) DON'T purchase ANY fuel from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e. ESSO and BP.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers all around the world.

Well, it's really simple to do!!

Please don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach the millions of fuel-buyers we need to make it work.

I am sending this note to at least 30 people. If all of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people

(or as many as you can). That's all you have to do plus NOT buy motor fuel at ESSO/BP).

So how long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 plus MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

AND PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES.

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell,Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet etc. i.e. Boycott BP and Esso.

Just imagine the panic at BP and Esso Headquarters when

the fuel sales (and product sales from their forecourt shops) suddenly begin to fall.

Send this to ten e-addresses (or as many as you can) and not buy anything at BP or Esso forecourts. A simple yet effective way to see what a difference People Power can make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please remember that many Shell & BP garages are small local businesses who just have a franchise with the oil company, many of them struggle to survive as it is. In rural area sometimes they are the only garages for many miles around so hitting them will damage local comunities even further - our local shops have been devasted by big supermarkets already.

The main problem with our petrol prices is the extortionate amount of tax imposed by the government - THEY are the ones who we ought to be targetting.

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish

How many times will this spam email get sent and nothing happens?!

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon


"How many times will this spam email get sent and nothing happens?! "

How many times have YOU seen this email, and how many times have YOU acted upon it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this old crap

problem is, the same amount of fuel will be purchased, but from fewer outlets, so the demand is the same, and all it will achieve is putting some out of business, and making others a fortune.

the buying price of fuel will be untouched as demand is still there, and they now have fewer outlets to deliver, making the oil companies even more money by reducing the delivery costs for them.

there will be people made reduntand as the smaller stations will be forced to close. putting further stress on the unemployment costs, which then increase taxes to cover the cost.

the people who are unaware of the protest ot simply not involved, will still buy from the boycotted stations, which coulkd if the boycott was working, mean your now buying petrol which has been standing for a long period in the undeground tanks. which can easily cause damage to your car and result in further costs for the motorist for having tanks drained..

something huge needs to be done without a doubt, but this idea will never work, hence why its still doing the rounds after 4 years with no one ever carrying it out.

there was even a rumor, that the oil companies started this mail originally, though its never been confirmed

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

Saw it in another forum and re-posted it, just thought if it would make a difference it would be worth a go.

Anyone else got any bright ideas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Saw it in another forum and re-posted it, just thought if it would make a difference it would be worth a go.

Anyone else got any bright ideas?"

sadly no lol

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon


"Saw it in another forum and re-posted it, just thought if it would make a difference it would be worth a go.

Anyone else got any bright ideas?

sadly no lol"

At least you are honest lol!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If every lorry driver in the country took a weeks holiday at the same time and brought the country to a stand still,perhaps the government would have a re think.

Remember that 80p of the price of a litre of petol is TAX

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By *picyMan
over a year ago

dublin/kildare

wel ere is my 2 cents, this exercise makes good sense even if it does make another oil company more well of here why-

if u target da biggest 1 an remember they hav a serious amount of backin behine them an wel able 2 take a good degree of abuse but if ther sales hit an al time low which it wil after this is successful they wil hav no option but 2 reduce price at da pump plus wil send a big msg 2 other oil companies that if they keep fuckin bout they cud easily bcom a target,,

now that said da government wil stil hav 2 b challenged m wel a company like bp goin 2 da wall thats how many JOBS?? last thing they wil want 2 hear so they cud end up steppin in on other levels but defo worth a try

WAT DO WE AS CONSUMERS HAV 2 LOOSE BY DRIVING AN EXTRA HALF MILE TO ANOTHER BRAND????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but the point being, it is not the oil company thats ripping you off. so what are you going to acheieve apart from hitting staff?

it sthe TAX that kills us not the cost of the fuel

americans get the petrol / oil from the same source as us, yet pay a shit load less. why? because they are not taxed on fuel to the degree we are

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"americans get the petrol / oil from the same source as us, yet pay a shit load less. why? because they are not taxed on fuel to the degree we are"

True. But they also have to work 2 weeks longer per year (holiday allocations are much less over there) and there's no NHS that needs funding.

Would OP give up half their holiday entitlement and take out private medical insurance if it resolved the problem?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes sense and a good suggestion not to buy from the big 2 i see a niche in the market...now all i need is a couple hundered billy cans and a tube to fill em friends will be offered friends prices lol

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish

The problem is the idea is flawed...this email has been doing the rounds for years now and it's never worked.

The only thing that did have an effect was blockading the refineries etc. but the gummint soon made that illegal

we're pretty much screwed

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish


"How many times will this spam email get sent and nothing happens?!

How many times have YOU seen this email, and how many times have YOU acted upon it?"

And how many times have YOU acted upon it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not illegal to blockade a refinary lol and anyway they were not blockaded they were protests, and the tanker drivers sided with us.

Truck drivers DID bring the country to a halt, and were only allwoing fuel to pass the protests for emergency services.

Why do you think the government is looking at fixing the price from now on ??? Its because the haulage industry have told them that if it continues to rise there will be more protests !

The country is in so much crap that it could not afford to have fuel protests.

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish


"[Removed by poster at 28/01/11 22:20:12]"

Protests? what a few placard wavers? Interested to know it's not illegal! I'll park my car behind ya truck cj...so to speak!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"True. But they also have to work 2 weeks longer per year (holiday allocations are much less over there) and there's no NHS that needs funding.

"

They also get more "bank holidays" and as for the no nhs why do we pay contributions ? oh i remember its for the health service which i haven't used for over 15 years, and then theres the road tax we all pay that gets pumped into guess where thats right the nhs or to fund expenses for a duck pond Fuel tax which makes up the vast amount of the price of fuel is a "top up" for the mismanagement of the country does it go into the infrastructure of the country no. Petrol prices are hitting £6 a gallon where America are $3 add the exchange rate in and it even worse


"

Protests? what a few placard wavers? Interested to know it's not illegal! I'll park my car behind ya truck cj...so to speak! "

And its everyones democratic right protest, strikes need a legal process to be legal and as strikes were made difficult during the 80's. With the threat of more action why do you think the government are reviewing the industrial action laws. As I said protests can bring the government down but its not a sustainable strategy, then if the protests do work unlike the student protests they will simply stick a stealth tax in the next budget

So in sort

show discontent for the government who will do sod all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They'll only end up selling their downstream assests such as refineries and outlets and concentrate on exploration as that's where the money is, since the european refining market is already saturated.

The only thing you can do is find an alternative, and since I like my fast cars that go broom broom, that ain't going to happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profs right but the answers pretty simple really to beat a crook you gotta be a crook. Next time ys fill up cover your number plate and drive of without paying. oh and dont forget to take your free newspaper upon exit

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish


"

And its everyones democratic right protest, strikes need a legal process to be legal and as strikes were made difficult during the 80's. With the threat of more action why do you think the government are reviewing the industrial action laws. As I said protests can bring the government down but its not a sustainable strategy, then if the protests do work unlike the student protests they will simply stick a stealth tax in the next budget

So in sort "

Are you sure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"THIS DEFINITELY DOES SEEM TO MAKE SENSE.

LET'S TRY IT!

We are hitting £129.9 a litre in some areas now and soon we will be faced with paying £1.50 per litre. So Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign' that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it. and if you agree, join in...

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers, control the market place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year (2011) DON'T purchase ANY fuel from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e. ESSO and BP.

If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers all around the world.

Well, it's really simple to do!!

Please don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach the millions of fuel-buyers we need to make it work.

I am sending this note to at least 30 people. If all of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people

(or as many as you can). That's all you have to do plus NOT buy motor fuel at ESSO/BP).

So how long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 plus MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

AND PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES.

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell,Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet etc. i.e. Boycott BP and Esso.

Just imagine the panic at BP and Esso Headquarters when

the fuel sales (and product sales from their forecourt shops) suddenly begin to fall.

Send this to ten e-addresses (or as many as you can) and not buy anything at BP or Esso forecourts. A simple yet effective way to see what a difference People Power can make."

Easier said than done.

I work for very large European company with over 16,000 BP fuel cards. How am I supposed to boycott BP when that is the ONLY gargage I can use and ger fully reimbursed ?

Nice idea, but needs to be fully thought through. BP and Esso make over £1m per hour 24hours per day just on fuel card users.

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By *lurmMan
over a year ago

Swansea-ish

as I said.....How many times will this spam email get sent and nothing happens?!

All this does is attempt to block mail servers. Nothing ever happens, nothing ever comes of it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People change things, not emails, posts or threads come to that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was a good idea, shame we didn't get it together as a nation as we are now faced with ever increasing fuel prices to line a greedy governments coffers!!!!

Plus I just wanted to see if we can raise reaction to this topic again

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

Well, to prove a point, since I was asked " what have you done?", since I posted this I have NEVER used BP or ESSO petrol.

Just imagine if all the people I had posted this to as an email did as I asked, and forwarded it on....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You probably did...It's people like BP and Esso(all the big boys) who either drill for it or refine it. Everyone buys it from them.

I really wish we could do something about it. When you buy petrol from Tesco, Saisburys etc you are helping kill off the local shops....We can't win the 'big boys' have us by the short and curlies!

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By *ickablecoupleCouple
over a year ago

West Glamorgan

I use bio diesel, much cheaper

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By *estisbest22Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Always angers me when I see this message going around, whoever made it should really of looked into the facts before posting. Refineries/fuel companies aren't to blame, it's a big job, exploring, drilling, transporting, refining, one that takes big money, so what they actually charge is a pretty fair price! Uk refineries are struggling, fuel strikes will only cause more to shut in the long run, putting prices up. Any form of strike protest should be against the government for the extortionate amount of tax they put on the fuel!

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By *estisbest22Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Bio diesel is awsome, and cheaper, but the way it's produced they could never keep up with the demand if everyone was to switch, and the government know this or you'd already of seen a massive hike in price(tax). Truth of it is there are many options that have been, are being developed that would do away with fossil fuels in the auto industry all together, but the government are doing all in their power to ensure they don't happen, for the foreseeable future, because of the loss of income tax wise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ffs .....thought this was a swingers site, not a hoary old hippy protest site!! tree huggers unite lol cutting and pasting a protest letter from another thread is hardly going to solve any problems as far as im concerned!...

the only way to hit the garages is by getting on your (push)bike or on the bus or train, carsharing or walking....being a little more eco friendly and watching your carbon footprint....not sending out chain letters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ffs .....thought this was a swingers site, not a hoary old hippy protest site!! tree huggers unite lol cutting and pasting a protest letter from another thread is hardly going to solve any problems as far as im concerned!...

the only way to hit the garages is by getting on your (push)bike or on the bus or train, carsharing or walking....being a little more eco friendly and watching your carbon footprint....not sending out chain letters "

Sorry, thought it would be a change from the usual rubbish posted on the forums of late, however, I do like the idea of Bio Diesel, but am not sure if a common rail diesel will run on it effectively?

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon


"ffs .....thought this was a swingers site, not a hoary old hippy protest site!! tree huggers unite lol cutting and pasting a protest letter from another thread is hardly going to solve any problems as far as im concerned!...

the only way to hit the garages is by getting on your (push)bike or on the bus or train, carsharing or walking....being a little more eco friendly and watching your carbon footprint....not sending out chain letters "

For evil to triumph, it is enough that good men do nothing.

Not sure if the quote is word perfect, but I think you get the idea.

Trying to raise awareness of an issue, and encouraging others to take some form of action, is, last time I looked, still allowed in the forums.

Some of us do meet (lots lol), but also have keen and enquiring minds, a thirst for knowledge and a genuine passion for debate, something again that I believe the forums are here to encourage.

Instead of posting negative comments on just about everything, perhaps you should instead just allow others the courtesy of expressing themselves, and either join in, or if you have little to say that is constructive or without malice, walk on by.

Yours sincerely, Mart the tree hugger.

(I would be a four hugger, but my arms aren't long enough!)

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By *ickablecoupleCouple
over a year ago

West Glamorgan

Petrol and diesel will be the fuel of the past,Hydrogen cell technology will be the future! Google it, it will amaze you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

totally agree licks, however they need to stabalise and make it safe in case of an accident, issues Honda have been trying to resolve for the last ten or so years..

No doubt it will happen, progress is inevitable and hopefully sooner rather than a later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

totally agree licks, however they need to stabalise and make it safe in case of an accident, issues Honda have been trying to resolve for the last ten or so years..

No doubt it will happen, progress is inevitable and hopefully sooner rather than a later.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

The solution to rising fuel costs will never change.

Use less.

It's true for fuel, utilities, food, and can be applied to just about anything that people get worked up about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the best way to beat them is to buy your fuel only when you are going to use it.how many millions of pounds worth of fuel are in our tanks waiting to be used?and remember the fuel companies have our money.so only buy fuel for when you are going to use it.

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By *hynewguyMan
over a year ago

blackwood

i got a fuel card so dont bother me lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Convert to lpg It's 64.7p a litre

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