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"Just been informed that in the next 18 months the csa will be taken over. As I use them I will receive a letter 6months before hand to ask if I still want to use this service or if I can come to some agreement with my ex about maintenance.which is laughable as he walked out 3 years ago and I've found him on a Internet site 400+ miles away. If I want to continue using them which I have to I will be charged a one off payment of £20.00 to pay for admin fees. He will have to pay a 20% fee of every payment the csa receive off him.so say for instance he pays £30.00 a week that will be taken up to £36.00 and the csa will keep £6.00 of that and give me £30.00. What's your thoughts?? " This is a different system I'm on it these people are better to deal with than the CSA however of the £30 per week they give you 4% will go to them they take a few both sides unless your ex pays direct into your bank | |||
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"Am I right in thinking this depends on when your claim was made to the csa ? I didnt make the claim my ex did and he ended up paying me more than I asked for. Karma " Everyone is going to new system I have all info as I'm now paying into it with | |||
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"I had the letter too... also stating I was owed 14,000 but they can't locate him I've given them his works address 3 times ..fking useless system this new system sounds just as shit as every other lol" Well you need to check that as the will put a live search on his national insurance number and if he is working then then can trace from that. | |||
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"Yup had this letter too. Slight joke considering my ex has always wangled pay slips for his zero hours contract to look like he works part time. He only pays £48 a fortnight. So each time I'll lose £4 with new system. The reason we're with csa is he decided to stop paying maintenance privately and then got lower hour payslips to go to csa with. Took over a year to catch up with payments. I obviously can't trust him to make payments now. Oh and another joke because he had a baby with his partner (gaining over £600 a month in benefits) they then subtracted money from my little ones maintenence £3 a week. " They will do the working out they done mine from the tax records not pay slips but he will be given a choice of the pay them then they pay you or he pays you direct I'm which case you can go to them if he fails a payment they get on his back these are different from CSA they were useless always messed up my money they took 4 payments on one day and said they didn't have my bank details even after providing them with bank statements, and they took me to court needless to say they lost | |||
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"Yup had this letter too. Slight joke considering my ex has always wangled pay slips for his zero hours contract to look like he works part time. He only pays £48 a fortnight. So each time I'll lose £4 with new system. The reason we're with csa is he decided to stop paying maintenance privately and then got lower hour payslips to go to csa with. Took over a year to catch up with payments. I obviously can't trust him to make payments now. Oh and another joke because he had a baby with his partner (gaining over £600 a month in benefits) they then subtracted money from my little ones maintenence £3 a week. They will do the working out they done mine from the tax records not pay slips but he will be given a choice of the pay them then they pay you or he pays you direct I'm which case you can go to them if he fails a payment they get on his back these are different from CSA they were useless always messed up my money they took 4 payments on one day and said they didn't have my bank details even after providing them with bank statements, and they took me to court needless to say they lost " Oh I forgot they've already had to get an attachment of earnings to his wages. So it doesn't make sense in long run for me to not use new agency. | |||
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"Just been informed that in the next 18 months the csa will be taken over. As I use them I will receive a letter 6months before hand to ask if I still want to use this service or if I can come to some agreement with my ex about maintenance.which is laughable as he walked out 3 years ago and I've found him on a Internet site 400+ miles away. If I want to continue using them which I have to I will be charged a one off payment of £20.00 to pay for admin fees. He will have to pay a 20% fee of every payment the csa receive off him.so say for instance he pays £30.00 a week that will be taken up to £36.00 and the csa will keep £6.00 of that and give me £30.00. What's your thoughts?? " well never used them as I always worked and my parents helped with my children, but I dont see why the Government should keep any money for themselves. | |||
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"Quite tragic all theses tales of absent fathers not paying for their kids " Theses??? My precious it is | |||
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"Just been informed that in the next 18 months the csa will be taken over. As I use them I will receive a letter 6months before hand to ask if I still want to use this service or if I can come to some agreement with my ex about maintenance.which is laughable as he walked out 3 years ago and I've found him on a Internet site 400+ miles away. If I want to continue using them which I have to I will be charged a one off payment of £20.00 to pay for admin fees. He will have to pay a 20% fee of every payment the csa receive off him.so say for instance he pays £30.00 a week that will be taken up to £36.00 and the csa will keep £6.00 of that and give me £30.00. What's your thoughts?? well never used them as I always worked and my parents helped with my children, but I dont see why the Government should keep any money for themselves." It's not about working or family helping out. It's about absent fathers paying for there children | |||
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"oh i agree absent fathers should pay for their children. I obviously misread. I have no use for the CSA or The New Agency anyway they only help when the parent in charge of the children is on benefits, they dont bother when a single parent is on a low paying job they wont chase the absent husbands then, thats why i have no use for the CSA. We have quite a few single parents strugging and working but CSA cant be arsed to chase the absent parent up for them. " They don't only help when the parent is on benefits at all. Think you need to stop having a dig at people on benefits. Yep im on benefits but do you know why I am???????? And when I worked they still treated everyone the same.... And as for they can't be arsed to help people who work then if 5.00 a week is aceptable for us none works so be it | |||
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"oh i agree absent fathers should pay for their children. I obviously misread. I have no use for the CSA or The New Agency anyway they only help when the parent in charge of the children is on benefits, they dont bother when a single parent is on a low paying job they wont chase the absent husbands then, thats why i have no use for the CSA. We have quite a few single parents strugging and working but CSA cant be arsed to chase the absent parent up for them. " Think you need to have a read up on stuff you haven't got a clue about before commenting | |||
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"oh i agree absent fathers should pay for their children. I obviously misread. I have no use for the CSA or The New Agency anyway they only help when the parent in charge of the children is on benefits, they dont bother when a single parent is on a low paying job they wont chase the absent husbands then, thats why i have no use for the CSA. We have quite a few single parents strugging and working but CSA cant be arsed to chase the absent parent up for them. " What the actual fuck? Well done you on working and bringing up children. However yes some of us are on benefits raising children and do need financial support. | |||
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"oh i agree absent fathers should pay for their children. I obviously misread. I have no use for the CSA or The New Agency anyway they only help when the parent in charge of the children is on benefits, they dont bother when a single parent is on a low paying job they wont chase the absent husbands then, thats why i have no use for the CSA. We have quite a few single parents strugging and working but CSA cant be arsed to chase the absent parent up for them. " I will say as a paying father the CSA we utter rubbish but the new agency set up seem to be better so far I've dealt with both and I do believe these people are now using the taxation system and they have to chase up absent dads if your paying £20 to set it up. Another comment of someone saying about the government taking a percentage why shouldn't they they have to pay wages to the people trying to get the money if the absent parent wants to be a tw@t about it the get charged more if they are sensible and pay direct the government don't take anything apart from the set up fee | |||
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"Can you go through csa if you do occasionally receive payment under mutual agreement but only on occasion?? " If they've set the claim up they will help you claim money if ex don't pay you if not they will set up arrangement and you sort out if they will collect it which will involve a fee each month or if ex pays you directly in either case they will get you the money | |||
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"I'm just going to pay the 20.00 admin fee and let them deal with it all and get the money my child deserves off her useless sperm doner " me too xxx | |||
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"All the more reason to come to an arrangement yourselves...." Yes but it isn't always that easier. The sperm doner walked out 3 years ago so if he doesn't want to see his child can you really see him wanting to come to some sort of arrangement????? I only went to them to start as he said he wasn't paying for a child he didn't see lol So I think I will defiantly pay the 20.00 and they can deal with him | |||
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"Cry me a fucking river... Try being the guy who has to pay hundreds every month... whilst having my daughter 3-4 days a week I have her more than my ex does and she has said that she cant afford to live without the money I pay her... Dont live beyond your means.. grrr women... Half the guys on here are too scared to voice there opinions because they want to get their knob wet and dont want to offend you wenches Abolish csa it works for nobOdyy 100% Every parent should mind their children 50% of the time if your not willing yo it your a prick! But also if your having sex with someone like that your a knob too!" Have you even read the thread? Because you're coming across as a cunt. Most of the women who've commented including myself are getting minimal csa payments or nothing. I'm probably right in saying that the children were happy accidents or the parents fell for love not money. But we're obviously dicks for that. However by your own confession you had a child with an incapable gold digger. Would you like to cock block yourself any further?! | |||
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"Cockblock myself.... Id rather cockblock myself than stand to agree with such bullshit... you see the side of yourselves not having money from dicks who run away from thy wench But what about the guy who pays a fuckload so he struggles to survive whilst also having to pay for the child "that he sees 3-4 days overnight etc" " I thought the amount you paid to the csa or whatever it is now is adjusted for the number of overnight stays? In other words if for arguments sake you are sposed to pay 200 a month but you have the kids half the time then the 200 quid is reduced? I doubt it's by half and I may be wrong as I never had to deal with the csa as I had an agreement with my ex. And as for brown nosing I'm not sure I've witnessed that on this thread tbh. As most of the posts are from women as predominantly they are the ones who make the claims. Most of the posts from blokes have just been expressing shock at the attitude of SOME absent fathers who won't take responsibility for being a parent. You also said something like the women who post on the forums are feminists. Is feminism a bad thing then lol. I'm no new age liberal and I'm not a supporter of putting a women in a job just because she has a fanny instead of a cock but surely in general feminism is a good thing as long as like all else it's not taken to extremes. I can tell by your post it's a very emotive subject for you and that's fine but castigating everyone else who comments on the subject is hardly taking a balanced view | |||
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"Cockblock myself.... Id rather cockblock myself than stand to agree with such bullshit... you see the side of yourselves not having money from dicks who run away from thy wench But what about the guy who pays a fuckload so he struggles to survive whilst also having to pay for the child "that he sees 3-4 days overnight etc" I thought the amount you paid to the csa or whatever it is now is adjusted for the number of overnight stays? In other words if for arguments sake you are sposed to pay 200 a month but you have the kids half the time then the 200 quid is reduced? I doubt it's by half and I may be wrong as I never had to deal with the csa as I had an agreement with my ex. And as for brown nosing I'm not sure I've witnessed that on this thread tbh. As most of the posts are from women as predominantly they are the ones who make the claims. Most of the posts from blokes have just been expressing shock at the attitude of SOME absent fathers who won't take responsibility for being a parent. You also said something like the women who post on the forums are feminists. Is feminism a bad thing then lol. I'm no new age liberal and I'm not a supporter of putting a women in a job just because she has a fanny instead of a cock but surely in general feminism is a good thing as long as like all else it's not taken to extremes. I can tell by your post it's a very emotive subject for you and that's fine but castigating everyone else who comments on the subject is hardly taking a balanced view " Thankyou for actually replying intelligently. I hate this subject as being a father being buttraped monthly because hes honest and looks after his child.. so it really frustrates me. I believe in equality. Im just trying to show the other side of the coin.that men are getting screwed over just as bad as they are. There should be laws in place created by a decent person so people cant abuse each other over something so easily solved. | |||
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"Cockblock myself.... Id rather cockblock myself than stand to agree with such bullshit... you see the side of yourselves not having money from dicks who run away from thy wench But what about the guy who pays a fuckload so he struggles to survive whilst also having to pay for the child "that he sees 3-4 days overnight etc" I thought the amount you paid to the csa or whatever it is now is adjusted for the number of overnight stays? In other words if for arguments sake you are sposed to pay 200 a month but you have the kids half the time then the 200 quid is reduced? I doubt it's by half and I may be wrong as I never had to deal with the csa as I had an agreement with my ex. And as for brown nosing I'm not sure I've witnessed that on this thread tbh. As most of the posts are from women as predominantly they are the ones who make the claims. Most of the posts from blokes have just been expressing shock at the attitude of SOME absent fathers who won't take responsibility for being a parent. You also said something like the women who post on the forums are feminists. Is feminism a bad thing then lol. I'm no new age liberal and I'm not a supporter of putting a women in a job just because she has a fanny instead of a cock but surely in general feminism is a good thing as long as like all else it's not taken to extremes. I can tell by your post it's a very emotive subject for you and that's fine but castigating everyone else who comments on the subject is hardly taking a balanced view Thankyou for actually replying intelligently. I hate this subject as being a father being buttraped monthly because hes honest and looks after his child.. so it really frustrates me. I believe in equality. Im just trying to show the other side of the coin.that men are getting screwed over just as bad as they are. There should be laws in place created by a decent person so people cant abuse each other over something so easily solved." That's the way of the world mate sad as that is. Honesty is rarely rewarded and the dodgy duck and dive fucks who know how to play the system are the ones who generally prosper | |||
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"Some women need csa to step because of the situation with an ex i'm one of them, yes my ex pays csa but I don't see a penny of it I make sure it goes into my son's account so that when he hits 18 it'll be sat there waiting for him... am I a gold digger NO i'm not but I do believe my son has a right to the money his father is made to pay him each month." thats a really decent thing to do and I think if you adked your ex partner he would think your a lovely person to do that. | |||
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"Some women need csa to step because of the situation with an ex i'm one of them, yes my ex pays csa but I don't see a penny of it I make sure it goes into my son's account so that when he hits 18 it'll be sat there waiting for him... am I a gold digger NO i'm not but I do believe my son has a right to the money his father is made to pay him each month. thats a really decent thing to do and I think if you adked your ex partner he would think your a lovely person to do that." If this is what you choose to do with the money you receive from your ex and are in a position to do this then that's great. However that's not what I pay my money to my ex for, I don't expect her to be saving it up for her, the money is for my daughter to live day to day. Every time my ex buys her a coffee I wanna feel I've paid half for the coffee. Every time she gets on a bus I wanna feel I've paid half for her fare. Every time she gets a new 1 direction CD, or bites into a steak at home I wanna feel like I've paid my way for those items. For me its not just for her pocket, its towards her life, her house, her upbringing, her day to day bits and pieces. If my ex buys a bottle of wine or has a night out then she deserves it, and she can do that as a thankyou for bringing up my child single handed. | |||
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"Not all men are as bad as this thread seems to be coming across as. Not all Fathers for example left there partners and ran and hide, I for instance was the one that was "dumped" shell we say, I thought to keep her and lost. # I've never used CSA as I think like many other it doesn't work and for us there's no point, I could of got angry, thrown my teddy's out the pram and caused problem after problem. Instead we came to a mutual agreement, I pay her directly into my her bank account every month by Direct Debit, I also deposit more money into my daughters trust fund monthly and a separate bank account for her. All this on top of the fact my ex is and always has been living in my house rent free. (actually my daughter's house now as she is on the deeds). I still give her extra money for school clothes, holidays, clubs ect ect. and will continue to do so all the time I'm in a position where I can. I don't get to see my daughter as often as I would like due to me working in the middle east for about 9 months a year, but while I'm a away I face time and message her daily without fail. I am happily married now to Florence and we have another child. When I am away she will collect my daughter for weekends and when I'm home my daughter spends as much time with us as possible allowing for her school and so on. I suppose my point is PLEASE do not tar every father with the same brush. I couldn't look in the mirror if I thought I wasn't doing as much as I could possible be doing for my children. " A point well made I'm lucky I get on well with my ex and therefore have had a smooth run with this kind of thing, the kids are well looked after by her, we parent them jointly, I pay my way etc. I'm glad as when it doesn't work out the bitterness is almost always shown in front of kids and it ain't a good way for them to grow up! Guess what's been proven in this post is not all men run away from responsibility and not all women use the child support payments on themselves! | |||
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"My ex owes me thousands for our daughter who is now nearly 11 never have she o I had a penny off him and csa send me regular letters and it makes me sick knowing he got a very well paid job and still can't pay for his daughter but at the end of the day I don't have to thank him for fuck all and she already knows he is a waste of space but on that note my partner got a son who he pays well over the top for and he has him regular but fuck me don't his ex take him for a ride my opinion males and fems take the piss... by the way before anyone jumps down my throat it's a forums u can write what u like everyone got their own opinions unless that's not allowed no more!! " | |||
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"Some women need csa to step because of the situation with an ex i'm one of them, yes my ex pays csa but I don't see a penny of it I make sure it goes into my son's account so that when he hits 18 it'll be sat there waiting for him... am I a gold digger NO i'm not but I do believe my son has a right to the money his father is made to pay him each month. thats a really decent thing to do and I think if you adked your ex partner he would think your a lovely person to do that. If this is what you choose to do with the money you receive from your ex and are in a position to do this then that's great. However that's not what I pay my money to my ex for, I don't expect her to be saving it up for her, the money is for my daughter to live day to day. Every time my ex buys her a coffee I wanna feel I've paid half for the coffee. Every time she gets on a bus I wanna feel I've paid half for her fare. Every time she gets a new 1 direction CD, or bites into a steak at home I wanna feel like I've paid my way for those items. For me its not just for her pocket, its towards her life, her house, her upbringing, her day to day bits and pieces. If my ex buys a bottle of wine or has a night out then she deserves it, and she can do that as a thankyou for bringing up my child single handed." | |||
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"I go out for the day and all hell breaks lose lol Just so you all know 1.i was asking on view of the csa on the absent fathers. 2.i take my hat off to any parent who still supports their children after a split. 3.i don't think it's nice to be called a wench when I was actually in one relationship for 22 years.so to be fair I thought I had made the right choices. 4.yep and it's a forum and everyone is entitled to there say just some people tend to word things wrong or say something they really don't know nothing about. 5.i so wish my child had a father in their lives but as drink was more important than her then I have to live with that and do the best I can to bring her up on my own. 6.all I want is for my child to be happy and it took two of us to make her and I don't see why even tho he fucked off he shouldn't support her financially when he is tucked up with another women and her kids and provides for them do you????? " | |||
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"Some women need csa to step because of the situation with an ex i'm one of them, yes my ex pays csa but I don't see a penny of it I make sure it goes into my son's account so that when he hits 18 it'll be sat there waiting for him... am I a gold digger NO i'm not but I do believe my son has a right to the money his father is made to pay him each month. thats a really decent thing to do and I think if you adked your ex partner he would think your a lovely person to do that. If this is what you choose to do with the money you receive from your ex and are in a position to do this then that's great. However that's not what I pay my money to my ex for, I don't expect her to be saving it up for her, the money is for my daughter to live day to day. Every time my ex buys her a coffee I wanna feel I've paid half for the coffee. Every time she gets on a bus I wanna feel I've paid half for her fare. Every time she gets a new 1 direction CD, or bites into a steak at home I wanna feel like I've paid my way for those items. For me its not just for her pocket, its towards her life, her house, her upbringing, her day to day bits and pieces. If my ex buys a bottle of wine or has a night out then she deserves it, and she can do that as a thankyou for bringing up my child single handed. " If my son needs anything then yes I can use the money saved but other than that I don't touch it there are reasons for this which I won't go into but on the whole this is the best result for all concerned it also stops my ex from being nasty, do I regret making the choice I did no not at all my son never goes without in fact friends say he's spoilt rotten I'm just happy in the fact that when he's older he will have a lovely nest egg that both myself and my ex have paid into over the yrs | |||
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