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By *ubAMasterT OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gorseinon

How to encourage people to vist Wales, or perhaps it is deliberate to keep them away.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

I think they will shoot themselves in the foot with that tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems like a dumb move in my opinion. I'm from a very touristy area. In punishing tourists with additional charges, you're risking the tourism based economy of my area.

Now second homes on the other hand...

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

They have it in Manchester and all over the World.

Yes tourism brings benefits but it also brings many downsides on which a tax is appropriate - so long as the amount charged is proportionate.

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By *ucky300Couple
over a year ago

cardiff

Yes, we have been paying tourist tax all over the world. France has this tax and is the most visited country in Europe.

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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago

Carmarthen

No one likes paying taxes but a necessary but if a tourism tax is introduced what will this money be spent on as it will not necessarily stay in the area!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another ludicrous decision by the Welsh Govt

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.


"Another ludicrous decision by the Welsh Govt"

Along with the 20mph speed limit on roads coming in september.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And obsession with green non road anti car policy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure how the tax will be implemented.

I'm llanelli area, if I visit family in Tenby, will I be then classed as a tourist?

Or am I being a bit dim here?

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Countries with a tourist tax (or equivalent) in some or all of the country:

Belgium

Germany

France

Spain

Austria

Greece

Croatia

Indonesia

Thailand (soon)

Most Caribbean islands

Malaysia

New Zealand

Portugal

People don’t seem to complain or boycott those countries much, yet when it’s suggested here it’s some dastardly plot to keep people away.

I’m always happy to go pay a tourist tax when I’ve gone to other countries. Tourism is great, but can cause pressures, environmental degradation, pollution etc. If invested in making facilities better etc, it’s not a bad thing, I feel.

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"I'm not sure how the tax will be implemented.

I'm llanelli area, if I visit family in Tenby, will I be then classed as a tourist?

Or am I being a bit dim here?"

It's usually levied on accommodation when abroad. You've probably paid it before without even realising it as it's a hidden cost in the package deal.

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By *r WhispererMan
over a year ago

brynmawr

I’ve paid a tourist tax in many European countries.. normally only £1-2 per stay.. it will make almost no difference to what we pay overall but could be a good income.. just hope it’s spent wisely, but I doubt that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have it all over Europe and people still flock there. It’s only €3.50/night in Rome. Something similar wouldn’t have a big effect on visitor numbers in Wales

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"They have it all over Europe and people still flock there. It’s only €3.50/night in Rome. Something similar wouldn’t have a big effect on visitor numbers in Wales"

The other thing is that many accommodation providers, be it a large hotel, Airbnb etc don’t really think about the impacts of tourism. I’ve been to many meetings where important strategic matters relating to the industry are taken, yet few come along.

In fairness, they are usually busy people, who do a lot of good in many ways, but the lack of forward thinking is a worry. It’s often all about the present day and profits.

A tourism tax is potentially a way to address this. Something is needed - the environment in tourist areas of Wales is under great pressure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a regular visitor to Saundersfoot 3 or 4 times a year i can honestly say if you implement this tax i will no longer be visiting,I know its only probably 3k a year from me but it will stay in my pocket.

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"As a regular visitor to Saundersfoot 3 or 4 times a year i can honestly say if you implement this tax i will no longer be visiting,I know its only probably 3k a year from me but it will stay in my pocket."

So if it's a couple of quid a day, you'll not go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have it in most European countries / cities, so we’re the ones out of step. Usually a couple of euros a night. If it’s spent improving the infrastructure or put back into the community in some way it would be highly beneficial. I think it does need to be ring fenced for something specific rather than going into the general pot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I took it to be a couple of quid on a room? A bed tax.

As in the visitors themselves wouldn't see the difference.

But then it would target more funds to the areas getting overwhelmed with tourists?

I may very well be wrong... It has been known...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a regular visitor to Saundersfoot 3 or 4 times a year i can honestly say if you implement this tax i will no longer be visiting,I know its only probably 3k a year from me but it will stay in my pocket.

So if it's a couple of quid a day, you'll not go?

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No not on top of everything else I have to pay for to get there,accommodation,fuel costs vehicle costs,it would be the thing that breaks the camels back.

I have the right hump with this

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"As a regular visitor to Saundersfoot 3 or 4 times a year i can honestly say if you implement this tax i will no longer be visiting,I know its only probably 3k a year from me but it will stay in my pocket.

So if it's a couple of quid a day, you'll not go?

No not on top of everything else I have to pay for to get there,accommodation,fuel costs vehicle costs,it would be the thing that breaks the camels back.

I have the right hump with this"

Do you agree that things that cause harm should be taxed? Like a duty on beer or cigarettes? Or fuel duty?

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"As a regular visitor to Saundersfoot 3 or 4 times a year i can honestly say if you implement this tax i will no longer be visiting,I know its only probably 3k a year from me but it will stay in my pocket.

So if it's a couple of quid a day, you'll not go?

No not on top of everything else I have to pay for to get there,accommodation,fuel costs vehicle costs,it would be the thing that breaks the camels back.

I have the right hump with this"

If it’s £3.00 a day, someone holidaying for eight weeks a year in Wales will pay £168.

Obviously not in your case and that’s fair enough, but most people who can afford four holidays a year aren’t going to be changing their plans.

I go to Saundersfoot regularly and work with visitors - lots of people with deep pockets there now. It’s a pittance to them, and many do recognise that, as well as the benefits of tourism, a small village growing to 10x its size in summer has impacts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's £3 a day we will have to pay £84 every time we have a weeks holiday at my parents static van in North Wales.

We live in Pembs. Can't see the council spending it on bins and toilets.

I live and work in Pembs now I will have to pay to stay in Gwynedd. So we'll have one meal less in the pub.

Mum and dad, both retired and on a crap pension, will have to find an extra grand on top of the four grand site fees. Guess there will be a lot of static vans for sale soon...

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"If it's £3 a day we will have to pay £84 every time we have a weeks holiday at my parents static van in North Wales.

We live in Pembs. Can't see the council spending it on bins and toilets.

I live and work in Pembs now I will have to pay to stay in Gwynedd. So we'll have one meal less in the pub.

Mum and dad, both retired and on a crap pension, will have to find an extra grand on top of the four grand site fees. Guess there will be a lot of static vans for sale soon...

"

Thanks for this post. Only fair to say that it’s given me pause for thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me, its a poor decision, yes other countries apply it. However, infrastructure, quality of services reflect it. Wales and West Wales particularly are well behind against most of the holiday destinations in the UK, Europe or beyond, this with UK costs escalating,

I spent most of my adult life holidaying in Wales, Pembrokeshire particularly, now I find Devon, Cornwall and France fair easier, more practical and cost affective to travel to and stay in, I don't really think I will be spending 5hrs traveling to wet a Gwynedd for poorer experience and to be charged extra for it.

I can see more one off travelers being happy to accept it as part of there visit to Wales, but how many will come back..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't actually think it's a bad idea. Just needs a bit of thought on how to apply it. I lived in North Pembs and the summers were crazy. Far too many people with far too much money.

The problem is poor people holiday in Wales because they can't afford to go abroad.

We'd love to go to the Maldives and pay a tourist tax. Unfortunately funds mean we have to holiday in wet Wales.

Maybe charge people with a posh car £50 to cross the bridge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't actually think it's a bad idea. Just needs a bit of thought on how to apply it. I lived in North Pembs and the summers were crazy. Far too many people with far too much money.

The problem is poor people holiday in Wales because they can't afford to go abroad.

We'd love to go to the Maldives and pay a tourist tax. Unfortunately funds mean we have to holiday in wet Wales.

Maybe charge people with a posh car £50 to cross the bridge?

"

Thats not quite true I used to go because of my now deceased wife's health conditions meant she couldn't fly for the last 4 yrs of her life,thats why we used to go to Saundersfoot so often,it cost us pretty much the same for a week in Saundersfoot as 2 wks all inc in gran Canaria

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By *iver111Man
over a year ago

Swansea

Bloody dripford, he's an arse, comes up with some stupid ideas 20mph for instance

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

I've just come back from the Amalfi coast. The hotels there charge anywhere between €1 and €3 per person per night. I think it depends on the town and size of the hotel.

It's been going on for years in some places and doesn't stop visitors from going.

Amalfi is beautiful but it's got shit infrastructure!

Gbat

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