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"I don't even get a no thanks I'm just left on read the majority of the time. Which is very disheartening. Like at least tell me no thank you." My point was you don't get a no thanks lol | |||
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"I'll sometimes message a guy back and tell him that he clearly hasn't read my profile. You've a higher chance of getting an answer if you do read someone's profile than if you don't I'd say. " Yes might get a higher chance so 1% reply lol | |||
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"I don't even get a no thanks I'm just left on read the majority of the time. Which is very disheartening. Like at least tell me no thank you. My point was you don't get a no thanks lol" We have replied with a no thank you before and got a load of abuse for it ,if someone doesn't reply simply take it as a no thank you and move on | |||
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"As frustrating as it can be, your not owed a reply. No message is usually a polite way of saying no thanks. Women and couples are usually swamped with messages on here and would need a PA to politely decline everyone. Just take the L and move one " I would not say it's a polite way of saying no thank you. But do get that some are abusive if you tell them no. People should move on if told no. My point was why bother reading a profile if your not even getting a reply from most | |||
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"As frustrating as it can be, your not owed a reply. No message is usually a polite way of saying no thanks. Women and couples are usually swamped with messages on here and would need a PA to politely decline everyone. Just take the L and move one I would not say it's a polite way of saying no thank you. But do get that some are abusive if you tell them no. People should move on if told no. My point was why bother reading a profile if your not even getting a reply from most" Surely the point of reading a profile is as much for you as it is for the recipient. I can't understand why you would message someone without reading their profile and seeing what they are into. If you don't care and are literally just willing to shag anything then I guess the point of reading it is you are far more likely to get a reply if you show you have read it and sent a decent message. Better to only send 10 messages and have a decent chance of a positive reply than send 100 and fail on every one because you've been lazy. We always reply I'm those circumstances. The shit one liners that are clearly sent to 50 couples at a time we have generally stopped replying to and if we do reply its always a no. | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ?????" The site faqs say no reply is a polite no. Some people get hundreds of messages a day, they'd need to be on here every second of the day to read and reply to every one. I get it's disheartening but this isn't helping you getting a reply, it's showing people that you're the type to argue when you do get a polite no | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ?????" What are you on here for? Surely it's to eventually try and get an actual meet? Pretty much every couple or lady is telling you in order to do that you need to read profiles and send a decent message. It comes across as though all you want is a reply to a message regardless of whether it's positive or negative. You get just as much sex from a no reply as you do from the no thanks you so dearly crave! | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ????? The site faqs say no reply is a polite no. Some people get hundreds of messages a day, they'd need to be on here every second of the day to read and reply to every one. I get it's disheartening but this isn't helping you getting a reply, it's showing people that you're the type to argue when you do get a polite no" I waste enough time reading profiles and sending messages so no I'm not the type to bother wasting more time argue over a no | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ????? The site faqs say no reply is a polite no. Some people get hundreds of messages a day, they'd need to be on here every second of the day to read and reply to every one. I get it's disheartening but this isn't helping you getting a reply, it's showing people that you're the type to argue when you do get a polite no I waste enough time reading profiles and sending messages so no I'm not the type to bother wasting more time argue over a no " If you feel like reading profiles is a waste of time, why are you even on here  | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ????? The site faqs say no reply is a polite no. Some people get hundreds of messages a day, they'd need to be on here every second of the day to read and reply to every one. I get it's disheartening but this isn't helping you getting a reply, it's showing people that you're the type to argue when you do get a polite no I waste enough time reading profiles and sending messages so no I'm not the type to bother wasting more time argue over a no " Most of the time I will read the senders profile before clicking on the message. If they say something in it that puts me off or isn’t what I’m looking for I won’t reply. We are clearly not match. There is a ‘mark unread’ option too. They may have read your message but choose not to show that as no reply means no thanks. Sending a message isn’t an entitled meet | |||
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"No one is required to reply to you. I will just delete and ignore a message if it is clear that they haven't read my profile. It shows that if you can't be arsed to read a profile you won't give a shit about mutual pleasure on a meet. Sometimes they do read my profile but then send a dick/pussy pic in their message so again I ignore them. People are using Fab as a sex site when it is a swingers site. Swinging is much more than ONS, NSA fun. Its like having friends with very naughty benefits. The social side is very important. Tinder, badoo and pof are better if youre after a ONS. Thats just my opinion." Well said. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit" I'd just get on with my evening  | |||
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"This site has shown me over recent years that people have forgotten the definition of swinging so I will share them. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. the exchanging of spouses for sex. the practice of engaging in group sex or the swapping of sexual partners within a group, especially on a habitual basis where no emotional bond is made. I share these because at no point does it suggest making friends, attending social events or even suggesting it can be anything more than a ONS. " Is that why you’re not verified then?
People who have been on the scene a while typically make friends and gravitate towards others who share a similar lifestyle.
So are we saying ONS maketh a swinger? I think not. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit" This is nonsense. We read every single message we get. We click onto the profile of each sender too. If there is no effort made in the message, no effort put in to their own profile and they clearly haven't read our profile then why would we make the effort to respond?? To use your own analogy, if you were out in a bar, saw someone you fancied and then walked up and said 'you free now for anal', would you still think them rude for simply ig oring you? I would suggest simply being ignored is the best outcome for you in that situation! | |||
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"This site has shown me over recent years that people have forgotten the definition of swinging so I will share them. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. the exchanging of spouses for sex. the practice of engaging in group sex or the swapping of sexual partners within a group, especially on a habitual basis where no emotional bond is made. I share these because at no point does it suggest making friends, attending social events or even suggesting it can be anything more than a ONS. Is that why you’re not verified then?
People who have been on the scene a while typically make friends and gravitate towards others who share a similar lifestyle.
So are we saying ONS maketh a swinger? I think not. "Explain the not verified comment? Swinging is the act of non-monogamous casual sex The fact that people then act outside of these parameters makes it more than this. You then add emotion to it. The point of swinging is to avoid emotion. If you want to make friends who share a common interest that's fine but don't act like that is what the 'swinging lifestyle' as it is not | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit This is nonsense. We read every single message we get. We click onto the profile of each sender too. If there is no effort made in the message, no effort put in to their own profile and they clearly haven't read our profile then why would we make the effort to respond?? To use your own analogy, if you were out in a bar, saw someone you fancied and then walked up and said 'you free now for anal', would you still think them rude for simply ig oring you? I would suggest simply being ignored is the best outcome for you in that situation! " What about the person who comes up and says hi? How are you? What's your name? Or again, the person that walks up and says a lot more, has actual made an effort to notice you? Ignorance is just ignorance no matter how you try and sugar coat it. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening "But you would still think they were rude. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
"Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all. | |||
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"This site has shown me over recent years that people have forgotten the definition of swinging so I will share them. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. the exchanging of spouses for sex. the practice of engaging in group sex or the swapping of sexual partners within a group, especially on a habitual basis where no emotional bond is made. I share these because at no point does it suggest making friends, attending social events or even suggesting it can be anything more than a ONS. Is that why you’re not verified then?
People who have been on the scene a while typically make friends and gravitate towards others who share a similar lifestyle.
So are we saying ONS maketh a swinger? I think not.
Explain the not verified comment?
Swinging is the act of non-monogamous casual sex
The fact that people then act outside of these parameters makes it more than this. You then add emotion to it. The point of swinging is to avoid emotion.
If you want to make friends who share a common interest that's fine but don't act like that is what the 'swinging lifestyle' as it is not"So you’re saying anyone who has had a ONS is a swinger?? Utterly ridiculous. Hook ups are not swinging. They serve a purpose, granted. But that’s not swinging. Most 20 year olds in uni would class themselves as a swinger if they followed your reasoning. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all. "That's not the point. Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted | |||
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"This site has shown me over recent years that people have forgotten the definition of swinging so I will share them. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. the exchanging of spouses for sex. the practice of engaging in group sex or the swapping of sexual partners within a group, especially on a habitual basis where no emotional bond is made. I share these because at no point does it suggest making friends, attending social events or even suggesting it can be anything more than a ONS. Is that why you’re not verified then?
People who have been on the scene a while typically make friends and gravitate towards others who share a similar lifestyle.
So are we saying ONS maketh a swinger? I think not.
Explain the not verified comment?
Swinging is the act of non-monogamous casual sex
The fact that people then act outside of these parameters makes it more than this. You then add emotion to it. The point of swinging is to avoid emotion.
If you want to make friends who share a common interest that's fine but don't act like that is what the 'swinging lifestyle' as it is not
So you’re saying anyone who has had a ONS is a swinger?? Utterly ridiculous. Hook ups are not swinging. They serve a purpose, granted. But that’s not swinging. Most 20 year olds in uni would class themselves as a swinger if they followed your reasoning. "If you had read my first message you would clearly see the definition of swinging.....not my definition I want to add | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted "It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them. "You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it? What is ignorance? | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?"No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point. "What is ignorance? | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?"Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested. | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested. "Mic drop | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested. "You keep talking about interest...that's not what I am discussing here. If you converse with someone and that person doesn't respond or even acknowledge you.....what is that determined as? | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested.
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested.
You keep talking about interest...that's not what I am discussing here. If you converse with someone and that person doesn't respond or even acknowledge you.....what is that determined as?"The whole discussion has been about building up to approach and talk to someone you like
At no point did you just say it was someone asking a random the time etc to then just move on
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested.
You keep talking about interest...that's not what I am discussing here. If you converse with someone and that person doesn't respond or even acknowledge you.....what is that determined as?
The whole discussion has been about building up to approach and talk to someone you like
At no point did you just say it was someone asking a random the time etc to then just move on
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested.
You keep talking about interest...that's not what I am discussing here. If you converse with someone and that person doesn't respond or even acknowledge you.....what is that determined as?
The whole discussion has been about building up to approach and talk to someone you like
At no point did you just say it was someone asking a random the time etc to then just move on
Regardless! If you are polite in your approach and respectful, surely that warrants politeness and respect in return. Does it not?
We are not talking about interest here, it's about common decency.
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one " Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled? | |||
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"And this no reply business....gets brought up and defended every other week it seems. Let me ask....in relation to a message that you receive How many of you read the message? Check and read the profile? Read verifications? Check the pictures? Also, imagine for a second you saw someone you fancied out somewhere and you finally get the courage to approach that person for them to just look at you up and down and without saying a word they just walk away! What would you think if that person? And worse than that though they always expect you to say something cool, interesting, unique, relevant, well drafted, meaningful and in depth but not to long as that's boring Just imagine all that and then tell me what you would think of that person for a second. Cos in my view that is not only rude but self entitled and quite frankly, bullshit I'd just get on with my evening
But you would still think they were rude.
Maybe but also that I'm obviously not their type in the looks department. I wouldn't dwell on it at all.
That's not the point.
Society wouldn't allow for those sort of people. It wouldn't be accepted
It is the point though, people don't have to talk to someone just because they approach them.
You are clearly not understanding what I am saying. People can choose to react and act how they wish....that doesn't change the outcome does it?
What is ignorance?
No it doesn't, because either way they aren't interested and that's my point.
What is ignorance?
Refusing to accept some people just aren't interested.
You keep talking about interest...that's not what I am discussing here. If you converse with someone and that person doesn't respond or even acknowledge you.....what is that determined as?
The whole discussion has been about building up to approach and talk to someone you like
At no point did you just say it was someone asking a random the time etc to then just move on
Regardless! If you are polite in your approach and respectful, surely that warrants politeness and respect in return. Does it not?
We are not talking about interest here, it's about common decency.
Personally I wouldn't just ignore someone but that's me, I don't expect everyone to do the same though and I've actually approached someone in a club when I was a lot younger for her to just laugh and walk away but I survived. "Again not my point. We all have anecdotes we can share. It's about whether that person treated you well by responding that way | |||
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled?" Expecting a participation medal in the form of a response when someone doesn’t want to is very entitled, yeah. Suggest you familiarize yourself with the site rules and FAQs. | |||
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled? Expecting a participation medal in the form of a response when someone doesn’t want to is very entitled, yeah. Suggest you familiarize yourself with the site rules and FAQs. "When did I ask for participation? I nearly ask for respect.....is that wrong of me? A question for you.....is feeling as though you don't have to respond or show decency not considered entitled? | |||
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled? Expecting a participation medal in the form of a response when someone doesn’t want to is very entitled, yeah. Suggest you familiarize yourself with the site rules and FAQs.
When did I ask for participation? I nearly ask for respect.....is that wrong of me?
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled? Expecting a participation medal in the form of a response when someone doesn’t want to is very entitled, yeah. Suggest you familiarize yourself with the site rules and FAQs.
When did I ask for participation? I nearly ask for respect.....is that wrong of me?
A question for you.....is feeling as though you don't have to respond or show decency not considered entitled?"The two are not mutually exclusive. If someone chooses not to reply to you for whatever reason that is their choice and their right. I personally haven’t got time to respond to every single message I’m sent. I prioritise responding to those who actually read my profile. | |||
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"I think the bottom line here is that nobody owes anyone a response of any kind as per the FAQ for the forum. Expectations that contradict that will lead to disappointment No the bottom line here is that many people on this site have lost the ability to see the human being behind the profile and/or the message I see that the entitlement is strong with this one Entitlement? Asking for respect and decency is me being entitled? Pot kettle? Not thinking you have to respectful or decent is surely being entitled? Expecting a participation medal in the form of a response when someone doesn’t want to is very entitled, yeah. Suggest you familiarize yourself with the site rules and FAQs.
When did I ask for participation? I nearly ask for respect.....is that wrong of me?
A question for you.....is feeling as though you don't have to respond or show decency not considered entitled?
The two are not mutually exclusive. If someone chooses not to reply to you for whatever reason that is their choice and their right. I personally haven’t got time to respond to every single message I’m sent. I prioritise responding to those who actually read my profile. "And choose not to answer a question.....you call me entitled | |||
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"To get back to the original forum thread topic: On a site like this ... Which is for swingers to communicate and share joint interests, your profile is where you can say a bit about what you are looking for, what you are not looking for etc etc. If everyone wrote full profiles and everyone read, and took note of, these profiles before messaging, there would be far fewer reasons to get annoyed at irrelevant, repeated requests to meet from people who are not 'your type'. If people are looking for a meet, they have the opportunity to say this in the meet section. And, just because someone is online when you are looking for a sexual encounter, doesn't mean that they are up for a meet at that particular time! The use of this site as a 'sex with random strangers' opportunity is leading to it's downfall. That's my rant for today!. Rosie x " This I completely agree with | |||
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"To lazy to read 1000% profiles but not lazy to reply no thank you ????? The site faqs say no reply is a polite no. Some people get hundreds of messages a day, they'd need to be on here every second of the day to read and reply to every one. I get it's disheartening but this isn't helping you getting a reply, it's showing people that you're the type to argue when you do get a polite no I waste enough time reading profiles and sending messages so no I'm not the type to bother wasting more time argue over a no If you feel like reading profiles is a waste of time, why are you even on here "That is a very good point I don't know my self | |||
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"I dont think this site is for you fella! " I agree waste of time to be fair not like it use to be socials are good though | |||
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"Clearly I have a different set of morals and values to people here. Shame" I think you might change your opinion if you had to put up with the abuse people get for turning guys down, or the endless messages once you say no, asking for a second chance, or "you met (name from your verifications), whats he got that I havent?"....and so on. In a perfect world, people would read the profile, and only respond if they fit the criteria, unfortunately the vast majority of guys either dont read it, or decide to ignore peoples preferences and send mail anyway. | |||
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"Clearly I have a different set of morals and values to people here. Shame I think you might change your opinion if you had to put up with the abuse people get for turning guys down, or the endless messages once you say no, asking for a second chance, or "you met (name from your verifications), whats he got that I havent?"....and so on. In a perfect world, people would read the profile, and only respond if they fit the criteria, unfortunately the vast majority of guys either dont read it, or decide to ignore peoples preferences and send mail anyway." Do some guys actually ask what someone else has that they don't? That's a really risky question | |||
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"The point of a forum Is for communication. I am simply asking your opinion not saying I'm entitled to a reply. There is room for improvement for everyone some more than others.some if us especially my self are just reaching out for a bit of advise there is no need to knock someone down when there already clearly on the ground." I think a lot of the comments were then aimed at Plick who hijacked your thread somewhat. Apparently we're all ignorant because we don't answer/delete messages. I have never thought about how a man feels when I delete a message without answering and I'm sure the other posters don't give it much thought. I do it because I'm allowed to, because it's easier than engaging in conversation with someone you feel isn't suitable. I don't think it's ignorant though and in real life I'm not an ignorant person. | |||
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"The point of a forum Is for communication. I am simply asking your opinion not saying I'm entitled to a reply. There is room for improvement for everyone some more than others.some if us especially my self are just reaching out for a bit of advise there is no need to knock someone down when there already clearly on the ground. I think a lot of the comments were then aimed at Plick who hijacked your thread somewhat. Apparently we're all ignorant because we don't answer/delete messages. I have never thought about how a man feels when I delete a message without answering and I'm sure the other posters don't give it much thought. I do it because I'm allowed to, because it's easier than engaging in conversation with someone you feel isn't suitable. I don't think it's ignorant though and in real life I'm not an ignorant person. " I never said it's ignorant either. But some of us will spend the time reading profiles and put effort into a message and still nothing. But to be expected | |||
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"My question is there any point reading a profile when most won't even reply to a message anyway. Why spend so many hour reading when it can take a second to say no thanks." Ok back to your original post, yes it's worth reading a profile, if only to guage whether that person/couple is what you're looking for. Getting a reply to every message would be lovely, but women get too many messages to do that. Even if they could, some men have soured the site with abuse when they get turned down, so why would they take the risk when they can just delete the message. If you're not getting any replies, ever, then you need to look at your profile and what you're sending, because you're the common denominator. I think it's safe to say all single men on here have felt like you have at one point or another, it's how you deal with it that matters. | |||
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"My question is there any point reading a profile when most won't even reply to a message anyway. Why spend so many hour reading when it can take a second to say no thanks. Ok back to your original post, yes it's worth reading a profile, if only to guage whether that person/couple is what you're looking for. Getting a reply to every message would be lovely, but women get too many messages to do that. Even if they could, some men have soured the site with abuse when they get turned down, so why would they take the risk when they can just delete the message. If you're not getting any replies, ever, then you need to look at your profile and what you're sending, because you're the common denominator. I think it's safe to say all single men on here have felt like you have at one point or another, it's how you deal with it that matters. " Well said that is a better response and genuine | |||
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"No one owes you a reply. But you owe the respect of reading someone’s profile before you choose to message them. " No one owe anyone anything it's personal choice to read or reply | |||
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"No one owes you a reply. But you owe the respect of reading someone’s profile before you choose to message them. " Absolutely, but your missing the point he's made, 'if someone has clearly taken the time to read a profile (some are like novels let's be honest )
And taken the time to write a decent person centred message. A polite "thanks for the nice message, but I'm not interested" takes considerably less time and effort, but goes a long way in making this site a nicer friendlier place.
(If you're not rude or ignorant outside of fab, why be like it on here?)
Then by all means, ignore any follow up messages, even block if necessary.
I don't always like the people who message me, but common courtesy IS deserved by everyone thats willing to display it to you.
Treating all men as potentially Toxic is incredibly unfair and off putting for people who aren't that way inclined. The decent ones leave, and all that's left ARE the toxic ones you complain about! Lmao so ENCOURAGE the ones that actually take time and make effort with a simple "thanks for your message, but your not for me" it makes a difference (for the decent ones that DO make the effort)
Even if it's a cut and paste job,lol we all make this site what it is, don't put all the blame on men. And tar us all with the same brush either.
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"We clearly say don't message us on our profile, guess what, around 150 messages a day, most are rude, clearly not a match, some offering money, dick pics, fancy a fuck, meet now. You don't see many profiles saying please message me, did they ask you to message them, probably not. Entitlement certainly is not a turn on for most here." And those are the arseholes who don't deserve anymore than a "F U" and block, nobody wants guys like that making it a nightmare for everyone in here anymore than you do. But that isn't what this guy is talking about. That's a different matter all together. | |||
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"No one owes you a reply. But you owe the respect of reading someone’s profile before you choose to message them. Absolutely, but your missing the point he's made, 'if someone has clearly taken the time to read a profile (some are like novels let's be honest )
And taken the time to write a decent person centred message. A polite "thanks for the nice message, but I'm not interested" takes considerably less time and effort, but goes a long way in making this site a nicer friendlier place.
(If you're not rude or ignorant outside of fab, why be like it on here?)
Then by all means, ignore any follow up messages, even block if necessary.
I don't always like the people who message me, but common courtesy IS deserved by everyone thats willing to display it to you.
Treating all men as potentially Toxic is incredibly unfair and off putting for people who aren't that way inclined. The decent ones leave, and all that's left ARE the toxic ones you complain about! Lmao so ENCOURAGE the ones that actually take time and make effort with a simple "thanks for your message, but your not for me" it makes a difference (for the decent ones that DO make the effort)
Even if it's a cut and paste job,lol we all make this site what it is, don't put all the blame on men. And tar us all with the same brush either.
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"In my point of view as an IT I believe there is a lots of fake couples and single ladies on here ( php robots ), Also the real cpl’s writing a long user manual in there profiles with funny tests and exams and they end it ( we looking for cpl’s and single ladies) and when you check verifications it’s comes only from men’s lol , funny as hell , I ask all lovely guys here to ignore all couples and single ladies and never send any text to anyone, let’s have some fun "If they don't tick the Looking for men box it takes them off the men's searches and massively reduces messages. Doesn't mean every woman and couple without it ticked is looking for men though. | |||
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"To the ones that use the word entitled but expect you to read there profiles. What's the difference you have a right not to respond to a message and we have a right not to read your profile. Not once has anyone said you must reply to a message just simply saying what's the point of reading a profile when the outcome is the same. And the answer to my original question was answered and understood. And can totally understand why most do not respond to a message and that's down to pricks that get abusive because they don't like what they hear. Or the ones that can't take a no.I can imagine the people on here getting arsy reading some of the comments and using the word entitled are the ones that are contributing to the aggressive messages." I've read a bit of this but not everything, so if what I say has been mentioend before, apologies. I feel like you're missing a lot of the point in general. Your question is "why bother reading a profile if the out coome will be the same, no reply". The reason you would always want to read the profile is that reading it and tailoring your message to the couple will give you a greater chance of getting a reply. As a single guy, you're just not that likely to get many replies in general. Couples get bombarded with messages from single guys, and I mean completely spammed. When we allow single guys to message us, it can be 100+ in a day. Absolutely no chance people are getting a reply. Not because I wouldn't want to be polite, but just because it's a time investment that's not worth it. Also consider that this isn't an in person scenario where just straight up ignoring someone would be very awkward and rude, because it's not even remotely comparible. A closer comparison would be me and my partner sitting down as a queue of about 30 dudes tried to chat us up. I'd probably be much less patient and polite in that situation too, just because of time. I would say, as a single guy, either just fire from the hip and throw out as many messages as you can hoping to get lucky, or put a bit more effort in and hope that gives you a better shot at getting a reply. Neither are a guarantee and will depend on how good you look, how enticing your pics are and honestly, if you can be bothered to attempt to spell correctly. I straight up ignore anyone saying stuff like "hows use? Can u acom?" etc. Either way, I can understand your frustration, but you need to udnerstand that Fab isn't the same as an in person experience and couples and single ladies get A LOT of messages. | |||
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"To the ones that use the word entitled but expect you to read there profiles. What's the difference you have a right not to respond to a message and we have a right not to read your profile. Not once has anyone said you must reply to a message just simply saying what's the point of reading a profile when the outcome is the same. And the answer to my original question was answered and understood. And can totally understand why most do not respond to a message and that's down to pricks that get abusive because they don't like what they hear. Or the ones that can't take a no.I can imagine the people on here getting arsy reading some of the comments and using the word entitled are the ones that are contributing to the aggressive messages. I've read a bit of this but not everything, so if what I say has been mentioend before, apologies. I feel like you're missing a lot of the point in general. Your question is "why bother reading a profile if the out coome will be the same, no reply". The reason you would always want to read the profile is that reading it and tailoring your message to the couple will give you a greater chance of getting a reply. As a single guy, you're just not that likely to get many replies in general. Couples get bombarded with messages from single guys, and I mean completely spammed. When we allow single guys to message us, it can be 100+ in a day. Absolutely no chance people are getting a reply. Not because I wouldn't want to be polite, but just because it's a time investment that's not worth it. Also consider that this isn't an in person scenario where just straight up ignoring someone would be very awkward and rude, because it's not even remotely comparible. A closer comparison would be me and my partner sitting down as a queue of about 30 dudes tried to chat us up. I'd probably be much less patient and polite in that situation too, just because of time. I would say, as a single guy, either just fire from the hip and throw out as many messages as you can hoping to get lucky, or put a bit more effort in and hope that gives you a better shot at getting a reply. Neither are a guarantee and will depend on how good you look, how enticing your pics are and honestly, if you can be bothered to attempt to spell correctly. I straight up ignore anyone saying stuff like "hows use? Can u acom?" etc. Either way, I can understand your frustration, but you need to udnerstand that Fab isn't the same as an in person experience and couples and single ladies get A LOT of messages. " Perfect answer and I have come to believe this is 100% correct answer. This is the answer I was looking for. After my last post on this forum I was going to add something similar to what you have said. But you have said it perfect thank you very much for the polite response needed not just for me for other guys that think the same way. | |||
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"Surprised to read a forum thread where everyone thinks their opinion is the right one, and it's turned into an argument. *Sits back, throws popcorn into mouth, having a laugh* Surely my opinion is shared though right or was I the only person raised to be kind to others?? As many MANY others have stated before here… Replying with a no thank you is not being kind. It is merely opening the replying person(s) to further messages, attempted coercion and abuse. It happens all the time here. Add to the fact that some people on here get literally hundreds of messages a day, it would simply be impractical to reply to everyone. To use your being approached in public analogy…. If someone is approached by a huge mob of people all shouting things like “fancy a fuck?” and flashing their cocks…. They’re not being ignorant by not replying politely Accept that no response is a reply all in itself and stop being so fucking entitled " I appreciate your comments but again your analogy is centered towards the bad bunch. I'm not talking about them. They don't deserve any respect. What I'm highlighting towards are those who are genuine, polite, respectful | |||
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"By saying “if someone approached you in person asking your name and how you are, would you ignore them?”, you’ve clearly not experienced what most women have. I give you an example: After the last Swansea social in January, I walked through the town centre to get back to my car at 2am. The entire time I had multiple men follow me, asking me my name, where I’m from, where am I going etc. did I ignore them? Absofuckinglutely but I was terrified. Just because they’ve said “innocent” things to me doesn’t mean their intentions are the same. Hence why women have to walk with their keys between their fingers when they’re alone. “What’s your name? Where are you from? How are you?” - whatever the question, no one online or in person is OWED a response. People have their own reasons for ignoring someone so pull up your big boy pants and get a sodding grip." 100%! I carry my keys the same due to "harmless" bombardment of questions or following and catcalling when Ive been on my own. Its frightening | |||
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"By saying “if someone approached you in person asking your name and how you are, would you ignore them?”, you’ve clearly not experienced what most women have. I give you an example: After the last Swansea social in January, I walked through the town centre to get back to my car at 2am. The entire time I had multiple men follow me, asking me my name, where I’m from, where am I going etc. did I ignore them? Absofuckinglutely but I was terrified. Just because they’ve said “innocent” things to me doesn’t mean their intentions are the same. Hence why women have to walk with their keys between their fingers when they’re alone. “What’s your name? Where are you from? How are you?” - whatever the question, no one online or in person is OWED a response. People have their own reasons for ignoring someone so pull up your big boy pants and get a sodding grip." | |||
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"Surprised to read a forum thread where everyone thinks their opinion is the right one, and it's turned into an argument. *Sits back, throws popcorn into mouth, having a laugh* Surely my opinion is shared though right or was I the only person raised to be kind to others?? As many MANY others have stated before here… Replying with a no thank you is not being kind. It is merely opening the replying person(s) to further messages, attempted coercion and abuse. It happens all the time here. Add to the fact that some people on here get literally hundreds of messages a day, it would simply be impractical to reply to everyone. To use your being approached in public analogy…. If someone is approached by a huge mob of people all shouting things like “fancy a fuck?” and flashing their cocks…. They’re not being ignorant by not replying politely Accept that no response is a reply all in itself and stop being so fucking entitled I appreciate your comments but again your analogy is centered towards the bad bunch. I'm not talking about them. They don't deserve any respect. What I'm highlighting towards are those who are genuine, polite, respectful" Some of those men who are 'genuine, polite, respectful' can get mighty abusive if women say no thanks. Blame them, not the women! | |||
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"I'll sometimes message a guy back and tell him that he clearly hasn't read my profile. You've a higher chance of getting an answer if you do read someone's profile than if you don't I'd say. " Us too, we’ll let anyone know politely  if they haven’t read it. Or if they’re being a cocky so and so we’ll just tell them directly  | |||
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"As stated earlier we all have scenarios where we have been absconded by the opposite sex in a way that isn't appropriate. Unfortunately men are far worse at it than women, I will hold my hands up there but that doesn't mean you have to tarnish all with the same brush, which again unfortunately seems to be the case here. I have just read another forum post by yourself describing such men that you have interacted with and from what it seems many other women have also. These are the guys you should be avoiding but I gather they you are not and so are others. All I am saying to sum it all up is that if I treat you with respect, dignity and politeness it is not unfair of me to ask for the same in return. I do not believe being ignored or even blocked is being treated the same. I also know that my posts on this forum thread in particular will put me in bad light but it's not the intention. If you actually read what I put and took notice you would see that I'm actually advising on fairness....for everyone." You’re making it sound like the dickheads wear a flashing neon badge saying “dickhead” but we can’t help ourselves and go to them anyway
If we knew they were dickheads from the get go, we wouldn’t have bothered would we. To every 1 good guy here, there are 19 bad ones. Chances are we’re not going to get it right most of the time.
I don’t understand this big issue about having messages ignored. Why do people care so much that a stranger doesn’t want to talk to them? There’s plenty of guys whose messages I’ve ignored but then seen them at socials/clubs and they’ve either stayed away from me, or we’ve just chatted like nothing happened and become friendly.
It’s really not such a big deal being ignored. There are 7 billion people in the world. Take it as a “no thanks” and move on to the next | |||
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"As stated earlier we all have scenarios where we have been absconded by the opposite sex in a way that isn't appropriate. Unfortunately men are far worse at it than women, I will hold my hands up there but that doesn't mean you have to tarnish all with the same brush, which again unfortunately seems to be the case here. I have just read another forum post by yourself describing such men that you have interacted with and from what it seems many other women have also. These are the guys you should be avoiding but I gather they you are not and so are others. All I am saying to sum it all up is that if I treat you with respect, dignity and politeness it is not unfair of me to ask for the same in return. I do not believe being ignored or even blocked is being treated the same. I also know that my posts on this forum thread in particular will put me in bad light but it's not the intention. If you actually read what I put and took notice you would see that I'm actually advising on fairness....for everyone. You’re making it sound like the dickheads wear a flashing neon badge saying “dickhead” but we can’t help ourselves and go to them anyway
If we knew they were dickheads from the get go, we wouldn’t have bothered would we. To every 1 good guy here, there are 19 bad ones. Chances are we’re not going to get it right most of the time.
I don’t understand this big issue about having messages ignored. Why do people care so much that a stranger doesn’t want to talk to them? There’s plenty of guys whose messages I’ve ignored but then seen them at socials/clubs and they’ve either stayed away from me, or we’ve just chatted like nothing happened and become friendly.
It’s really not such a big deal being ignored. There are 7 billion people in the world. Take it as a “no thanks” and move on to the next "My concern isn't with the outcome, it's with the fact that not only is it tolerated and accepted but it's also become the norm. No matter how you word it, rudeness and ignorance shouldn't be accepted. Is it ok to punch someone in the face for little to no reason? | |||
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"As stated earlier we all have scenarios where we have been absconded by the opposite sex in a way that isn't appropriate. Unfortunately men are far worse at it than women, I will hold my hands up there but that doesn't mean you have to tarnish all with the same brush, which again unfortunately seems to be the case here. I have just read another forum post by yourself describing such men that you have interacted with and from what it seems many other women have also. These are the guys you should be avoiding but I gather they you are not and so are others. All I am saying to sum it all up is that if I treat you with respect, dignity and politeness it is not unfair of me to ask for the same in return. I do not believe being ignored or even blocked is being treated the same. I also know that my posts on this forum thread in particular will put me in bad light but it's not the intention. If you actually read what I put and took notice you would see that I'm actually advising on fairness....for everyone. You’re making it sound like the dickheads wear a flashing neon badge saying “dickhead” but we can’t help ourselves and go to them anyway
If we knew they were dickheads from the get go, we wouldn’t have bothered would we. To every 1 good guy here, there are 19 bad ones. Chances are we’re not going to get it right most of the time.
I don’t understand this big issue about having messages ignored. Why do people care so much that a stranger doesn’t want to talk to them? There’s plenty of guys whose messages I’ve ignored but then seen them at socials/clubs and they’ve either stayed away from me, or we’ve just chatted like nothing happened and become friendly.
It’s really not such a big deal being ignored. There are 7 billion people in the world. Take it as a “no thanks” and move on to the next
My concern isn't with the outcome, it's with the fact that not only is it tolerated and accepted but it's also become the norm. No matter how you word it, rudeness and ignorance shouldn't be accepted.
Is it ok to punch someone in the face for little to no reason?"Because ignoring a message equates to punching someone in the face? Give it up mate, no one has to respond to a message based on your standards. If you think it's rude, then maybe this site is not for you. | |||
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"We often receive messages that have clearly been copied and pasted or composed in such a way that it’s clear to us that the sender has not taken the time to read our profile or understand our wishes and needs. We often delete such messages without a response and often block the sender so that neither he/her/them or us is troubled by further correspondence. Polite messages are responded too politely. Offensive, abusive or messages clearly written to the female half of our profile are responded too and then deleted. The analogies relating to real life encounters in this thread are quite poor I think. Whilst one may find another person attractive, it’s highly unlikely that you would be able to access images of such a person in such an instance as you are often able to on this site, leaving that initial attraction to what one sees and hears in that moment, rather than via a screen showing images intended to show aspects of us that we want to show, perhaps the best sides of us, whilst omitting the aspects we don’t wish others to see. However, when all is said and done, everyone retains the right to respond, or not; to find others attractive, or not and to react to approaches in whatever way they feel appropriate in each instance. " But atleast you respond to the appropriate messages and for that I commend you | |||
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