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"be good for welsh football anyway 2 welsh clubs in the prem" | |||
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"Do our neighbours in the west wish us good luck in the new year" Millwall might nick a couple of points off you Saturday....(and anything else that isnt screwed down!!) | |||
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"Why you reading it then" Because it was new and may have been interesting, besides you seem to have missed the tongue in cheek "BAH HUMBUG" SOme have no sense of humour, others no sense of banter we have both and hope you enjoy the swinging as much as you do football. BTW, Bluebirds all the way having been a supporter for years and coached a small village team of whom a few have had trials for the Juniors. Happy New Year and lets hope we can make the Prem next season. | |||
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"Do our neighbours in the west wish us good luck in the new year" Probably about as much luck as you would wish them. As a Welshman, I can't understand the bitter animosity between Cardiff and Swansea fans, the rivalry and banter between Liverpool and Everton has always been friendly. But the Cardiff/Swansea fans relationship can only be described as bitter hatred, not an attractive attribute......and don't tell me it's just banter, I have met supporter from both camps and banter it most certainly is not, it is shameful. | |||
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"As a Swansea fan I wish our neighbours all the best. As long as we are both beating English teams I am happy!" lol even if a tad discriminatory against the English and I am season ticket holder for many a year with City | |||
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"Do our neighbours in the west wish us good luck in the new year Probably about as much luck as you would wish them. As a Welshman, I can't understand the bitter animosity between Cardiff and Swansea fans, the rivalry and banter between Liverpool and Everton has always been friendly. But the Cardiff/Swansea fans relationship can only be described as bitter hatred, not an attractive attribute......and don't tell me it's just banter, I have met supporter from both camps and banter it most certainly is not, it is shameful." Indeed but of that bitterness extends beyond Wales though funcouple as mandyshandy has pointed out...plus sheffield and Nottingham..in London too..Arsenal (pre happy clappy days) and Tottenham...Millwall and, well anyone I spose!!...but in particular, West Ham Its tribal thats all...even outside football theres bitter animosity between villages and towns that are two miles apart down here..cities just take it to a bigger scale..Valley boys vs city boys, Town boys vs hambones etc etc.. Scholars have tried to analyse all this over the years, especially football related agro...University studies have been carried out, papers written..(and probably a lot of money wasted in the process!) but at the end of the day young blokes like to fight, throw a bit of booze and a football crowd in to smooth along the process a little more..and thats it, end of..its gone on for decades and probably will..Teds Vs greasers, Mods, Vs rockers, punks Vs skins... 'Forget your thesis professor..this is the real deal'... Strange thing though...all the rivalries and long standing feuds..when Wales play England, (or England played anyone!!)..they are all forgotten..and supporters 'become one' In a stark similarity to what happened in the riots last year when group of football supporters took it upon themselves to stop the riots 'their way'...there were mixed groups of football supports in south and east London..no one cared about rivalries.. The police knew full well that these supporters wouldn't run in the opposite direction when confronted by the rioters..(and more importantly..so did the rioters!!)..they wouldnt be hanging around waiting for riot shields and helmets before they got stuck in either..and the police were fairly powerless to stop them. Similar thing happened in Wootten Bassett when football supporters turned up from various parts of the south west..and even Cardiff to ahem, 'discourage' Mr Choudry and his followers from staging a protest..luckily the police turned him around beforehand or that would have ended up in carnage.. Football supporters have what many might consider a strange set of whats right and wrong..and what the 'right thing to do is'...but don't over analyse it.. Funny ol world isnt it.. | |||
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"is the red wine in blue bottles ready in the east yet? or are you still bottling it again " they're booking their end of season open top bus tour if you listen to their fans! | |||
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"We all love Leeds " How is Tatey doing there mate? | |||
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"And what about Celtic/Rangers, Man Utd/Man City, Midlands derbies, Newcastle/Sunderland, countless others, are they friendly too, don't think so. And Liverpool, bunch of bloody hypocrites, they make themselves out to be angels, far from it remember Heysel." Heysel was a horrible tragedy I was there as I was at Hillsborough.....both Terrible days that could have been avoided by better grounds and policing....the season before we played Roma at their ground in the final of the European cup we beat them on penalties after the game over 40... Liverpool fans were taken to hospital with stab wounds......these fans weren't scallies looking for trouble but like most decent fans they were dads and lads....Heysel was caused by Knobheads out for revenge.....there was no trouble outside the ground and inside only chicken wire Seperated the fans There were chunks of stones from the crumbling Terraces that started getting thrown at the juve fans then Liverpool fans chased The Italian fans and a wall collapsed and sadly those fans died.....how does that make Liverpool fans hypocrites......we are ashamed what happend at Heysel....read the reports About roma 84. And Heysel 85.....by the way Heysel was condemned and knocked down and rebuilt....by UEFA.....Im not defending our fans but Dont make us out to be hypocrites..... I have sat next to Man U fans and Everton fans in the past and never felt as uncomfortable as I did at Wembley with the Cardiff fans......and then they started singing Hillsborough songs.... | |||
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"What were you doing in Cardiff end then,i was there and 40 odd other games last season and can assure you no Hillsborough songs were sung by Cardiff fans anywhere" I had my tickets from my good friends at Cardiff City...I attended a handful of Cardiff games last season....and never once heard any songs about Hillsborough so I was gutted to hear the one i heard | |||
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"Of course liverpool fans being the angels they are never sing songs about Munich to man utd do they and u should not have been in the Cardiff end in the first place there were a few scousers in the Cardiff end that day and the golden rule is if you do find yourself in the away end at a ground and been in that situation myself you do not celebrate widly if your team score you are only asking for trouble that goes for any ground" You are correct some mindless gobshites do sing Munich songs even now at Anfield I have even seen people fighting over it...every tean has gobshite fans.....my tickets were laid on by CCFC...who have always been my second team since we bought the mighty john thoshack off them.........i have mates who follow ccfc wh6 I got tickets for when you played at Anfield in our main stand he had a great time and great banter with the LFC fans....... I actually went. To stewards and got moved prior to kick off.I had no colour on and was sat with families...it was the odd gobshite as I say.....jus. like my man u friends who like decent people know were to draw the line....... I was gobsmacked to be told tha. Fans sing about the aberfan.disaster to Shocking that people make light of any innocent people dying........but every team have a gobshite element...... | |||
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"What were you doing in Cardiff end then,i was there and 40 odd other games last season and can assure you no Hillsborough songs were sung by Cardiff fans anywhere" and I can back up the above comment and I have been to all the Cardiff Wembly games too ill now but have been to the games | |||
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"Talking of c**ts George why don't you go try and find one to play with and you can give this boring cardiff city shit a break. " class well said | |||
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"Im going to do you jacks a good turn for new year,as im a successfull gambler i will give you a tip so you can put your hard earned giro family allowance dla and incapacity benefit on it to help you out Arsenal to win Fa cup at 12/1 with corals they have a bye sunday" | |||
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"And what about Celtic/Rangers, Man Utd/Man City, Midlands derbies, Newcastle/Sunderland, countless others, are they friendly too, don't think so. And Liverpool, bunch of bloody hypocrites, they make themselves out to be angels, far from it remember Heysel." I think you will find that the wall collapsed in heysel as the stadium was sub standard. yes there was crowd trouble but if the stand was solid then the people underneath would not have died. | |||
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"And what about Celtic/Rangers, Man Utd/Man City, Midlands derbies, Newcastle/Sunderland, countless others, are they friendly too, don't think so. And Liverpool, bunch of bloody hypocrites, they make themselves out to be angels, far from it remember Heysel. I think you will find that the wall collapsed in heysel as the stadium was sub standard. yes there was crowd trouble but if the stand was solid then the people underneath would not have died. " how did that come into City beinbg 5 points up | |||
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"We had a shit manager then in Dave Jones, we don't now, Malky has been here 18 months, taken us to a cup final in his first season, lost on penalties to Liverpool, and looks like promotion is on the cards. As a matter of curiosity Mr Player when did Spurs last get to a cup final, the days of Gazza, me thinks, correct me if I am wrong. From an outsider I credit Martinez myself for starting the ball rolling at the Jacks, Rodgers just carried it on, what do you Jacks think." Martinez built us, Sousa nearly ruined us, rogers got us back and laudrups taken us forward | |||
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"We had a shit manager then in Dave Jones, we don't now, Malky has been here 18 months, taken us to a cup final in his first season, lost on penalties to Liverpool, and looks like promotion is on the cards. As a matter of curiosity Mr Player when did Spurs last get to a cup final, the days of Gazza, me thinks, correct me if I am wrong. From an outsider I credit Martinez myself for starting the ball rolling at the Jacks, Rodgers just carried it on, what do you Jacks think. Martinez built us, Sousa nearly ruined us, rogers got us back and laudrups taken us forward " Think I would agree with that too. | |||
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"It was our junior side put out today, not remotely interested in the FA Cup this year, the League is all that matters." LOL Shandy, says Nemo! But will he be laughing after their match tomorrow? || Hollyxx | |||
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"Beware of the Foxes-were coming to get you in 3 weeks -I will be there" I like Nigel Pearson, in his interviews he comes across well, would like them to be second behind the bluebirds, as long as Palace aren't there and that **** Ian Holloway. | |||
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"George am lucky I ve got a good job I travel home an away with the mighty spurs always have since I was a kid I also try an visit other grounds as I work away alot If am in a town I take in a game " Wow you go to white hart lane from the wirral every other week thats commitment fair play....and then the away games.....surprised you got time to swing.... | |||
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"Cardiff City : boring, 1-0 win, anti-football, uninspiring, non-team - since you asked. Friendly club though. " Second highest scorers in the division, 4 - 1 win away to Blackburn the other week, you call that boring and uninspiring, have you actually been down to watch them play, or are you one of these armchair Premiership supporters. | |||
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"In recent news it says with the Swans being in the top division the economy in Wales was up 38mil so if Cardiff come up which I hope they do it will be massive for Wales, although they always look like going up and lose there bottle around this time of year " Every year around christmas they screw it up. | |||
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"Thats true big squad this time,no slip ups" No excuses either. All banter aside though most of us deep down want our derby back, its not the same when Liverpool are your nearest rivals. | |||
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"I Thought Villa or WBA were nearest,but im a dull stupid Cardiff fan " They are the nearest but we have no reason to dislike them. On league position and recent history its Liverpool. Once you guys get your asses up it all changes back. Don't think it'll be an easy ride though, every mistake gets punished in the PL | |||
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"Being a Cardiff fan everybody hates us and we them" Are you a red or a blue? | |||
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"ooooo aint it gone quiet" My bampa always told me to make friends, never talk about football or politics. He was very wise. | |||
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"11 points clear now" Weren't you 12 points clear? I've not been paying that much attention. | |||
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"Thats true and its more local for you to play us" As long as you behave yourselves. Interested to hear your thoughts on any strengthening need? Making wholesale changes doesn't work which has shown recently. Maybe a marquee signing like the overrated Ramsey (never the same after the injury). Continuity is the key, we have only ever improved on players and managers we've lost instead of replacing players still there. Clubs need to look at QPR and do the opposite. | |||
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