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"I will not meet cheaters. I will meet men in open relationships or ethical non monogamy relationships. I would want to speak with the mrs though to make sure they are okay with it." How would you know ? If a guy doesnt tell you he is with someone then how do you know if he is cheating | |||
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"I will not meet cheaters. I will meet men in open relationships or ethical non monogamy relationships. I would want to speak with the mrs though to make sure they are okay with it. How would you know ? If a guy doesnt tell you he is with someone then how do you know if he is cheating" I always insist on a social in public if they refuse then in my mind they have something to hide so I wont meet them. | |||
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"We have absolutely zero interest in having some poor wife/husband banging on our front door screaming and shouting. Their is far too much drama going on in the world without knowingly adding to it." Exactly this.. | |||
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"Just be open about it. Some will be OK with it and some won't. Just meet the ones who are. Men and women are still going to play away for a variety of reasons. Branding them all as trash will just force them to lie which will likely make things more difficult all round. " This what I was trying to say.. | |||
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"I have always been up front with play partners as there is no point in hiding, I think it just makes it harder to relax and enjoy playtime. There are some with reasons and some who don't. I know what it is like to be on the recieving end of a cheater so I get why some don't like the idea. I know that it's a selfish act whichever way you look at it but still can't leave my partner. " But you haven’t answered the question how would you feel if you found out she was on here? | |||
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"We have absolutely zero interest in having some poor wife/husband banging on our front door screaming and shouting. Their is far too much drama going on in the world without knowingly adding to it." This ^^ | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. " but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x" You could ask for him to verify this by letting her have a chat with you on the phone to confirm his story, pretty sure you wouldn't hear from him again but obviously I could be wrong. | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x" Some couples do have separate meets but I personally wouldn’t just take his word for it maybe suggest a social meet where u can meet his partner or a video call . | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either xSome couples do have separate meets but I personally wouldn’t just take his word for it maybe suggest a social meet where u can meet his partner or a video call ." yeah x | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x" Like ive said before i read the message wrong i have met with a female on my own and she enjoyed it we would both be happy to meet you if you like as i said i read the messages wrong and i have apologised but still both happy to meet you and take you for a drink coffee or stronger x | |||
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"I think it’s disgusting myself cheating on a partner some people have no morals , the people who cheat and the people who knowingly cheat , if you have a partner be faithful or leave them simples " Always glad to see an open mind | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x Like ive said before i read the message wrong i have met with a female on my own and she enjoyed it we would both be happy to meet you if you like as i said i read the messages wrong and i have apologised but still both happy to meet you and take you for a drink coffee or stronger x" lol this is not about you! | |||
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"I think it’s disgusting myself cheating on a partner some people have no morals , the people who cheat and the people who knowingly cheat , if you have a partner be faithful or leave them simples " Nothing in life is simple. Different people have different circumstances and different challenges. You do you, and best not to judge others. | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x Like ive said before i read the message wrong i have met with a female on my own and she enjoyed it we would both be happy to meet you if you like as i said i read the messages wrong and i have apologised but still both happy to meet you and take you for a drink coffee or stronger x lol this is not about you! " Haha well thats good to know offer still stands happy for us 3 to meet for a drink somewhere x | |||
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"I suppose the most logical question to ask yourself is this. What if you were sat in your lounge scrolling through this site and then suddenly you came across a profile of a woman and it’s your partner. You look at the photos and recognise your lounge, kitchen and bedroom in photos where she has been playing with other men. Then you look at her verifications and see she is verified by 175 men, all met in person, all saying how amazing she is! How would you think and feel about her, I am not being provocative here. It’s just an imponderable that might be worthy of thought as to how you would feel about it. If you would be upset, sad, jealous even then that’s maybe how she would feel finding out you are on here? " So... You're both on a swinger site without telling the other? | |||
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"I think it’s disgusting myself cheating on a partner some people have no morals , the people who cheat and the people who knowingly cheat , if you have a partner be faithful or leave them simples Nothing in life is simple. Different people have different circumstances and different challenges. You do you, and best not to judge others. " If a man cheats on his Mrs and she doesn’t know would you think that was fair on his poor Mrs , I think not | |||
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"I think it’s disgusting myself cheating on a partner some people have no morals , the people who cheat and the people who knowingly cheat , if you have a partner be faithful or leave them simples Nothing in life is simple. Different people have different circumstances and different challenges. You do you, and best not to judge others. If a man cheats on his Mrs and she doesn’t know would you think that was fair on his poor Mrs , I think not " Or visa versa | |||
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"Not interested in meeting cheaters. Women or guys who have hubbies/wifes permission maybe. but do they though “give permission” or is this just another way for a guy who is married/attached to get a meet I only say as I have this guy messaging me about a meet he’s attached but is saying his partner wouldn’t mind if he met me on his own but I am really struggling in my mind about this dilemma from his girlfriends point of view like I don’t think I would let my partner go out on meets on his own knowingly I would be more up for meeting him & his partner rather than just him as I also don’t want grief at my door either x Like ive said before i read the message wrong i have met with a female on my own and she enjoyed it we would both be happy to meet you if you like as i said i read the messages wrong and i have apologised but still both happy to meet you and take you for a drink coffee or stronger x lol this is not about you! Haha well thats good to know offer still stands happy for us 3 to meet for a drink somewhere x" awww | |||
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"If we are aware of the potential meet being involved with another person, and they didn't know, we would not meet. We've had several messages from people with partners that have been honest with us. We've politely let them know it's not for us, but that's their business. Personally, we would never meet with someone with an unaware partner. There are warning signs, no public social meets, not being able to accom, strange or short meets/hours, no public photos. We do know these can be for other reasons of course, but it just doesn't work for us. We have, absolutely, met people with partners who aren't into the scene, but are happy with this. That's not a problem, and most have offered contact with the partners. Some are friends who I trust completely. There's no right answer. One messaged and explained the partner had a disability so wasn't interested in sex, but they didn't know. I get it absolutely, but it's not for us in the slightest. We have too much respect for others, and ourselves. And mostly, we cannot be assed for the potential drama! It works for some and not for others and that's ok. But we wouldn't be involved. Her x" It is not worth the fall out drama that could happen if the other partner finds out who he has met and you get pulled in to the shit fiest that will insue. | |||
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"If they are big enough to play away,they are big enough to handle their own dramas and fallout. " Here here | |||
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"If a man cheats on his Mrs and she doesn’t know would you think that was fair on his poor Mrs , I think not " As I said, different people are in different situations, and calling them all 'disgusting' suggests a basic lack of empathy. It's not a one size fits all thing. | |||
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"So they're not all disgusting, then? Your apology is accepted." Didnt give a apology Roger I don’t say sorry to no one | |||
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"What has any of this got to do with haberdashery? key pad I should of said ????" Would need a bloody big keypad. He's 5 foot 10 | |||
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"I’m 6 foot 2 so what ? " Well you'd be lucky to find a 6 foot keyboard to hide behind. | |||
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"If a man cheats on his Mrs and she doesn’t know would you think that was fair on his poor Mrs , I think not As I said, different people are in different situations, and calling them all 'disgusting' suggests a basic lack of empathy. It's not a one size fits all thing." well knowing that you are bi you could gancy the male half as well I suppose, what do you think ? | |||
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"If a man cheats on his Mrs and she doesn’t know would you think that was fair on his poor Mrs , I think not As I said, different people are in different situations, and calling them all 'disgusting' suggests a basic lack of empathy. It's not a one size fits all thing." well knowing that you are bi you could gancy the male half as well I suppose, what do you think ? Fancy | |||
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"Cheaters are the scum of the earth. Hot wives and hot husbands are absolutely embraced and encouraged, but cheaters are just a 100% no. The hurt it causes to the other partner and / or family unit is devastating. There is a massive difference between playing away with consent to doing it clandestinely. I've been cheated on in the past and it's soul destroying. Solo meets with permission on the other hand is the exact opposite - it's exciting and fun. Mr." I totally agree with you buddy about time someone said the facts | |||
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"By 'facts', do you mean your opinions?" . No not just my opinions Roger old chap there’s lots of people on here thinking it’s wrong that’s all and you being bi which one would you fancy the male or the female ? | |||
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"Lots of people thinking something doesn't make it a fact. And sorry, you're not my type. " I’m getting fed up of this now , I’m not bi and I’m very glad I’m not your type take care old chap | |||
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"Lots of people thinking something doesn't make it a fact. And sorry, you're not my type. I’m getting fed up of this now , I’m not bi and I’m very glad I’m not your type take care old chap " Fixated on the fact that Roger is Bi, aren't you? If you are looking for the super straight, I think your on the wrong site Her | |||
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"I bet you'll want the last word. " why are you pushing me leave me alone | |||
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"Fixated on the fact that Roger is Bi, aren't you? If you are looking for the super straight, I think your on the wrong site " It says bi-curious anyway. I'm not sure what he was hoping to achieve by bringing it up. I'm interested in women, and I wouldn't be interested in playing with a bloke on his own, but I changed my orientation to reflect the fact that in threesomes, I have allowed lines to become blurred occasionally. | |||
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"Fixated on the fact that Roger is Bi, aren't you? If you are looking for the super straight, I think your on the wrong site It says bi-curious anyway. I'm not sure what he was hoping to achieve by bringing it up. I'm interested in women, and I wouldn't be interested in playing with a bloke on his own, but I changed my orientation to reflect the fact that in threesomes, I have allowed lines to become blurred occasionally. " Take care old chap and have a lovely day from the bottom of my heart | |||
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"Lots of attached women on here to where hubby doesn't know" Indeed, and many of them will have understandable reasons for doing what they do. | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. " Yes, that's true. | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. Yes, that's true. " what’s a blurred line , can you elaborate for me please ? Xx | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. " You're right. It's about informed decisions. I don't understand why certain people feel the need to start threads and then get argumentative about other people's decisions. Basically they need to use fab as they want and leave others to do their own thing... Just a person trying to get a kick out of antagonising others | |||
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"Just a person trying to get a kick out of antagonising others " I'm not one to kink-shame, but this one does seem a little weird. | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. You're right. It's about informed decisions. I don't understand why certain people feel the need to start threads and then get argumentative about other people's decisions. Basically they need to use fab as they want and leave others to do their own thing... Just a person trying to get a kick out of antagonising others " There’s more to this than is being said I spoke my mind and a certain person has had a little go for reasons we both know why ??? | |||
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"There’s more to this than is being said I spoke my mind and a certain person has had a little go for reasons we both know why ???" What reasons might they be? | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. You're right. It's about informed decisions. I don't understand why certain people feel the need to start threads and then get argumentative about other people's decisions. Basically they need to use fab as they want and leave others to do their own thing... Just a person trying to get a kick out of antagonising others There’s more to this than is being said I spoke my mind and a certain person has had a little go for reasons we both know why ???" I’ve said my piece now take care all have a lovely Sunday and happy fabbing xx | |||
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"Married or not, being upfront about it is the main thing for those whom you are talking to, so that they can make their own decisions. Yes, that's true. what’s a blurred line , can you elaborate for me please ? Xx " Thought it was a song by Robin thick. | |||
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"Thought it was a song by Robin thick. " Thicke. Although thick is oddly apt here. | |||
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"Sorry if I have put it the wrong context, I am not trying to windup. Being married and upfront is the right thing to do and let other people make they own decision about it. Again apologies if I came across wrong it wasn't meant too. " Your post came across just fine. Don't worry. | |||
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"Getting back to the topic of this thread there are probably two main camps - avoid the 'cheaters' and those that think 'it's not my problem'. However, I think for some of the 'cheaters' they have valid reasons. If they do, and they are honest and up front about those, then the more understanding members may give them a chance. Let's remember, this site is for people to get together and enjoy themselves. " ^^ This ^^ | |||
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"My name is P3achy & I'm scum " See, this is the reason I get so pissed off with blanket judgment. People seeking extra-marital sex without their partner's knowledge are human beings too, and each has a story. Calling fellow human beings 'scum' and 'disgusting' without listening or trying to understand is pretty crappy behaviour. | |||
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"As a genuine married man in an ENM relationship, I can guarantee that you will get a drama free meet with me. Always communicate who and where I'm meeting and vice versa. " ENM is the ideal, but I appreciate how hard it is for some people to get to the point of being ethical. | |||
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"As a genuine married man in an ENM relationship, I can guarantee that you will get a drama free meet with me. Always communicate who and where I'm meeting and vice versa. ENM is the ideal, but I appreciate how hard it is for some people to get to the point of being ethical. " who are calling people scum old chap that’s not very nice is it my bestest new found mate xx | |||
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"As said tedious.. Your post's are becoming moronic" Yeh I'm kinda picking up on the vibes in the room myself... | |||
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"My name is P3achy & I'm scum See, this is the reason I get so pissed off with blanket judgment. People seeking extra-marital sex without their partner's knowledge are human beings too, and each has a story. Calling fellow human beings 'scum' and 'disgusting' without listening or trying to understand is pretty crappy behaviour. " Hey I've been called worse by women on the site for adding to threads like this, each to their own & I'll still fall back on, how many people vet the people they're playing with in clubs? | |||
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"My name is P3achy & I'm scum See, this is the reason I get so pissed off with blanket judgment. People seeking extra-marital sex without their partner's knowledge are human beings too, and each has a story. Calling fellow human beings 'scum' and 'disgusting' without listening or trying to understand is pretty crappy behaviour. Hey I've been called worse by women on the site for adding to threads like this, each to their own & I'll still fall back on, how many people vet the people they're playing with in clubs? " That's very true if you're meeting anonymous people in a consequence free environment like a club . I mean, who really knows who anyone is or what they get up to in "real life"? As I said, no judgement from me. In fact the guy I mentioned in my previous post was from eastern Europe. When he first mentioned he was married I was kind of prepared to" look the other way", I thought maybe he was here alone, maybe needing company but not wanting to "cheat" on his wife back home with another woman. As for calling people "scum" it's usually those shouting loudest who have the least to say and the most to hide in my experience... x | |||
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"My ex husband met his partner via the site, I don't blame the site for that our relationship was clearly not right for that to have happened. These things happen regardless of what goes on via Fab, equally I've know relationships last longer because a person is getting what's missing on a no strings basis. This was always going to be a contentious thread X" I couldn't agree with you more, I've known several couples who have split up and swinging got the blame for it, but when you cut through the crap there were already chinks in the armour of their so called meaningful relationship, and as you say having an open relationship can hold it together because, each partner can have all the sex they want within the context of their own meaningful relationship. The best relationships I've had have invariably been with a woman who is on the same wavelength as myself, but finding such a woman can be like finding The Holy Grail. | |||
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"My ex husband met his partner via the site, I don't blame the site for that our relationship was clearly not right for that to have happened. These things happen regardless of what goes on via Fab, equally I've know relationships last longer because a person is getting what's missing on a no strings basis. This was always going to be a contentious thread X I couldn't agree with you more, I've known several couples who have split up and swinging got the blame for it, but when you cut through the crap there were already chinks in the armour of their so called meaningful relationship, and as you say having an open relationship can hold it together because, each partner can have all the sex they want within the context of their own meaningful relationship. The best relationships I've had have invariably been with a woman who is on the same wavelength as myself, but finding such a woman can be like finding The Holy Grail. " I have that woman but we did not meet on a swing site. We dont meet single guys purely because so many lied to us during chats on here. | |||
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