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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do you think its wrong to meet a married man without his wife knowing.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without doubt, this is decieptfull, dishonest and a breach of trust. We would never knowingly meet such a person be they Male OR Female.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Do you think its wrong to meet a married man without his wife knowing.? "

yep...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

YES!!!!!!!

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area

From Mr Funcpl2012

In my humble opinion I find any married man who needs to use a site such as this in order to cheat on his wife a tad pathetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life

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By *uxtapositionMan
over a year ago

CARDIFF

yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your humble opinion the whole swinging scene is a cloak and dagger hobby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *aughtygent0Man
over a year ago

S Wales


"Your humble opinion the whole swinging scene is a cloak and dagger hobby "

Here here !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life "

no just respect her if you have her permission to go look else where then thats fine otherwise your just another cheating saddo, and have you considerd how she must feel being unable to have sex?

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life "

Depends whether you do it with her blessing or behind her back. what was it those vows say? For better or worse, in sickness and in health...cheating on your wife is not swinging, genuine swingers would not dream of cheating on their partners nor would they entertain being the facilitators to enable another to cheat on theirs....

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Your humble opinion the whole swinging scene is a cloak and dagger hobby "

It might be the way you do it mate

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By *ir lance her alotMan
over a year ago

swansea


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life

Depends whether you do it with her blessing or behind her back. what was it those vows say? For better or worse, in sickness and in health...cheating on your wife is not swinging, genuine swingers would not dream of cheating on their partners nor would they entertain being the facilitators to enable another to cheat on theirs...."
and thats from a single male lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is couples thing?.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is about consent of both partners,having trust and sharing same room fun.Honesty must always prevail in the lifestyle just as it would in your normal day life.We both strongly disagree with affairs and cheating and will never meet with singles who are married or in relationships with out consent of the other half.But that not to say the many who claim to be single and take off wedding rings when going on meets.Anyway we been together 25 yrs and still strong in love and do nothing dishonest to fuck up our relatioship.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Swinging is about consent of both partners,having trust and sharing same room fun.Honesty must always prevail in the lifestyle just as it would in your normal day life.We both strongly disagree with affairs and cheating and will never meet with singles who are married or in relationships with out consent of the other half.But that not to say the many who claim to be single and take off wedding rings when going on meets.Anyway we been together 25 yrs and still strong in love and do nothing dishonest to fuck up our relatioship."

Exactly 20years here and prob more in love than when we got married. Agree there might be the odd one that we meet but we can usually sniff them out first but we can only do our best to ensure we dont meet them. Congrats you and well said.

Swinging is for grown up mentally mature and secure people, and alot of people dont get that at all. Doing this with a dodgy relationship or behind a partners back is not gonna work.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Swinging is couples thing?......."

Who said it was a couples thing, singles can swing, although originally its swapping partners .. but thats singles and that means single not a married man or woman doing it behind their partners back because they are not getting enough at home.

The subject here is cheating basically and using this swingers site to do it. Now if there is a genuine okay from the partner because of issues at home well maybe, but sorry when entering into marriage you take the vows and it does say if you won't have sex with me regular then you must accept i can go fucked anyone else.

Singles are fine as long as they genuinely are single.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area

Okay not sure who else does but we always look at a guys photos really closely... some single men have pics and in the background you can see the room seems to have a feminin touch, you can tell alot from a room. If not enougn to walk away certainly enough to start asking direct questions.

One guy said yes i am married but thats got nothing to do with this...when can we meet.. needless to say our answer was .. when your divorce has come through.

People seem too keen to jump on a site like this rather than putting the effort into a relationship. Very sad.. if they put the effort in they might even end up on here as a couple and then they could have fun together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I speak as a married man and I have to say the situation is far more nuanced than the black and white of cheat or don't cheat.

I didn't get married to come on a swingers site on my own several years later, but deferring to "Maszlow's heirarchy of needs", sex is VERY high on the list.

So either I do not fulfil my sex life and remain faithful, or I seek self fulfilment and treat my marriage as what it is, a partnership of equals that incubates our family life. Nobody is at fault as to the sexless nature of the marriage.

I am not here "defending" my position merely giving a counter point to some of the reactionary points raised here. I don't hide the fact I am married whereas I'm sure others do.

On another point, recent academic studies have shown an element of promiscuity leads to a longer healthier marriage, in France it is largely accepted. Therefore our perception of marriage has been shaped by a UK moral construct.

Anyway, thanks for reading

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

funny isnt it ppl say IT IS WRONG TO PLAY with married man without wife knowing. On a swinging site yes because so many things could be passed on to the unknowing wife. But ppl who do not swing have long term affairs with married men all the time. I myself had one for ten years he could not leave his wife, bless she was disabled and I had met her but i loved the very bones of him and was happy just to be with him when he could. He has now passed on but I dont regret the affair, but I am a bit two faced cos where swinging is concerned totally different innit

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"I speak as a married man and I have to say the situation is far more nuanced than the black and white of cheat or don't cheat.

I didn't get married to come on a swingers site on my own several years later, but deferring to "Maszlow's heirarchy of needs", sex is VERY high on the list.

So either I do not fulfil my sex life and remain faithful, or I seek self fulfilment and treat my marriage as what it is, a partnership of equals that incubates our family life. Nobody is at fault as to the sexless nature of the marriage.

I am not here "defending" my position merely giving a counter point to some of the reactionary points raised here. I don't hide the fact I am married whereas I'm sure others do.

On another point, recent academic studies have shown an element of promiscuity leads to a longer healthier marriage, in France it is largely accepted. Therefore our perception of marriage has been shaped by a UK moral construct.

Anyway, thanks for reading"

Well rightly or wrongly I have to say that the likes of yourself our appreciated as you say at least you are upfront about it. And that then gives couples or singles the option of an open descision if they are happy to meet with you.

As I said on another thread each to their own, we wouldn't meet married men simply because I know how I would feel if it was me being left at home while hubby was off in secret with another woman. And don't get me wrong he has had times where there has been no sex at home due to bad childbirth and surgery for tumour etc but he stayed and his patience paid off as he apparently gets more now that he has ever had in his life. Sadly sometimes life gets in the way and at those times we personally just feel that pulling together is the key.

If others feel its okay to do it then that's their business completely and there are situations where we can almost understand and maybe in those situations its okay, but there are some that have no problem with it and others that do.

Sadly for us its the married men that contact us with the right attitude and approach for a meet lol just our luck eh !! And yes with the approaches we have had from married men sometimes I really wish I (Mrs) didn't feel the way I do as I am sure some great meets could be had but there we go. (Got to say at this moment playing on sportify I have Reba McEntire - Only in my mind ... key line is 'have you ever cheated on me' lol mad me giggle anyway)

We would and have only ever done this as a couple and if one decided not to do it anymore we would stop.

But each to their own again and maybe for us and others its hard to get because we personally have a relationship to die for and been together nearly 20 years and still can't get enough of each other. Maybe we are just lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Difficulty knowing if someone is married ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life "

Most people on here are living a lie !

What planet are you on, were sorry about your situation but that sweeping statment you made cannot is not true.

Dont judge everyone as to be the same as yourself.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life

Most people on here are living a lie !

What planet are you on, were sorry about your situation but that sweeping statment you made cannot is not true.

Dont judge everyone as to be the same as yourself."

Exactly.. we are not living a lie we are completely open about everything. Okay if that statement means that we don't tell our 10 year old what we do then I suppose maybe but don't really think that counts.

We don't discuss our swinging lifestyle with the local rugby club... although I aint ashamed of it and when the chat at the bar someone made a remark that such and such was just like swinging.. when asked what he meant he said well anything goes.. I was so close to telling the whole club.. I don't care who knows really .. but its how others handle it. They are a touchy feely bunch at the best of times goodness knows how that could change if they knew.. mind you might get to use the pool table then lol

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

remember your vows be faithful to one another as you pass your partner around as as atoy , and that goes for you 'bi-curious' you lot are so judgemental look within yourselves

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"remember your vows be faithful to one another as you pass your partner around as as atoy , and that goes for you 'bi-curious' you lot are so judgemental look within yourselves"

It aint us who is forgetting vows we are playing together. This thread was started asking opinions in playing with marrieds behind their partners back. We have said we dont agree and we wouldnt play with them and also said if thats what they want to do thats their business they just arent involving us in it.

As for being faithful, well we arent the ones going behind our partners backs are we we only ever play as a couple with a few select people. Certainly here mrs isnt being passed around like a toy.. and to be honest its the blokes we do occasionally meet that are the toys.

As for bi different thread but again that was for opinions and we only said we wont meet them. I made it clear that each to their own just dont want men playing with each other near us.

So if your comnents were aimed in our direction you mis quoted us thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont think u should play with out your wife how would u feel if u found out she was doing it with out u knowing bet u wouldnt like it ---------

and dont give me that oh yes i would becos u full of bull shit

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I only ask as alot of people on here say cant accomadate now as a single man living alone im sure there are a few reasons but im guessing the most common but not told reason is they are in a relationship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life "

Try reading the OPs initial post, without the wifes knowledge is WRONG in our opinion, how ever if the wife gives her permission...... as for wanking the rest of your life, well that would make you a wanker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your humble opinion the whole swinging scene is a cloak and dagger hobby "

Not at all and we can pretty quickly work out who is a Liar, Cheat, Wanker or just plain stupid and we still manage to get plenty of meets even after we eliminate the catagory's above

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I speak as a married man and I have to say the situation is far more nuanced than the black and white of cheat or don't cheat.

I didn't get married to come on a swingers site on my own several years later, but deferring to "Maszlow's heirarchy of needs", sex is VERY high on the list.

So either I do not fulfil my sex life and remain faithful, or I seek self fulfilment and treat my marriage as what it is, a partnership of equals that incubates our family life. Nobody is at fault as to the sexless nature of the marriage.

I am not here "defending" my position merely giving a counter point to some of the reactionary points raised here. I don't hide the fact I am married whereas I'm sure others do.

On another point, recent academic studies have shown an element of promiscuity leads to a longer healthier marriage, in France it is largely accepted. Therefore our perception of marriage has been shaped by a UK moral construct.

Anyway, thanks for reading"

We dont agree with what you have written, you are cheating on your wife and in any society that is morally wrong, however we take you points and will say this is by far the best written post I have read and was a pleaseure to read even if we dont agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thanks for the replies received so far. I have to take issue with you saying in any society that is wrong, in many patriarchal societies it isn't expected it is actively encouraged. Peel away the veneer of equality we have in the UK and we are very much a patriarchal society. I'm off on a tangent now. I suppose my viewpoint is thus; I do not hide my marital status, people can hold their personal views on that, it is their right, where I get a little vexed is when the opinion of others is broadcast to the extent it has been here. Whatever happened to each to their own? You don't like my standpoint, fine, but I don't like the viewpoint that is being broadcast here to the detriment of others. I guess opinions are like arseholes right, we all have them, most are unattractive when brought out in polite company so perhaps best kept under wraps.

Anyway, for anyone who has no issue with married men, feel free to get in touch, unlike most "single" men here, and unlike an awful lot of couples here, I am a grounded no nonsense guy.

have fun y'all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a different question I would posit is this:

Is morality governed on a societal or an individual basis?

If you think your morality is an individual construct then your opinion on matters of morality is yours and only yours and should not impinge on the moral framework of others. If on the other hand your morality is constructed by society, then that is as much as to say "I don't go round killing stealing and raping, not because I think it's wrong, but because of societal pressure"

I ask the question in this way because morality is a multi faceted concept and a s a result, personal opinions on the morality of another persons actions should be that, personal, and not shared. Though I concede the original question does invite opinions to be expressed, I feel that the original question is very stilted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thanks for the replies received so far. I have to take issue with you saying in any society that is wrong, in many patriarchal societies it isn't expected it is actively encouraged. Peel away the veneer of equality we have in the UK and we are very much a patriarchal society. I'm off on a tangent now. I suppose my viewpoint is thus; I do not hide my marital status, people can hold their personal views on that, it is their right, where I get a little vexed is when the opinion of others is broadcast to the extent it has been here. Whatever happened to each to their own? You don't like my standpoint, fine, but I don't like the viewpoint that is being broadcast here to the detriment of others. I guess opinions are like arseholes right, we all have them, most are unattractive when brought out in polite company so perhaps best kept under wraps.

Anyway, for anyone who has no issue with married men, feel free to get in touch, unlike most "single" men here, and unlike an awful lot of couples here, I am a grounded no nonsense guy.

have fun y'all"

Think you lost the thread, the OP asked a question and we all answered it. If you dont like our answers then do not post with "society" this and "society" that and then change the topic, start your own thread.

We are British, we are Swingers and in the majority of cases it is wrong to cheat on your wife..... end of subject.

As Funcouple2012 have said on more than one occasion and in more than one forum, you need to be "mature" and responsible with a stable realtionship (if you are a cpl)and honesty is absolutly paramount. Married guys who have permission is one thing, those who cheat are quite another.

We will not meet married men, or singles who we deem not to be mature and responsible, and definatly not those who cheat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, my point has relevance. Who decides what is right and wrong? Just because you think it is morally wrong does not make it so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"society this and society that" demonstrates you haven't grasped the point I have set out and belies a general ignorance, i.e you think you are right and therefore not willing to examine whether or not you are.

Are you right or wrong? I can't answer that, but I fear neither can you

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"a different question I would posit is this:

Is morality governed on a societal or an individual basis?

If you think your morality is an individual construct then your opinion on matters of morality is yours and only yours and should not impinge on the moral framework of others. If on the other hand your morality is constructed by society, then that is as much as to say "I don't go round killing stealing and raping, not because I think it's wrong, but because of societal pressure"

I ask the question in this way because morality is a multi faceted concept and a s a result, personal opinions on the morality of another persons actions should be that, personal, and not shared. Though I concede the original question does invite opinions to be expressed, I feel that the original question is very stilted.

"

The thing is the original question asked for personal opinions and that is what we have all given. that is opinions personal to us, and everyones morals are different. No one here has said you have to have the same morals at all we have just expressed ours.

If the op wanted to post the question thats up to him and he is entitled to do that.

Surely the point of the forum is just for us mature adults to express our opinions and where need be to agree to disagree. Just because we all have opinions no one is forcing their opinions down anyones throat they are just being said in the forum.

A good healthy debate between mature adults is surely good and we should be able not to fall out over it as well mind.

Thats the key to being grown up lol

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I disagree, my point has relevance. Who decides what is right and wrong? Just because you think it is morally wrong does not make it so"

"I disagree, my point has relevance. Who decides what is right and wrong?"

Erm... bit of an oxymoron there doncha think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have found myself as the other woman to a married man a few times, and i have to admit that it does depend on the situation, and every person has their reason for doing what they do. However my first husband cheated on me, ie he had 3 affairs in the 2 year marriage..... I knew when it had happened, but he always denied it. To me it is the dishonesty and lies that I found worse.

My current husband knows I am here, and he and J have quite often played with me together, and I play with both of them, with others. Due to our current situation we have found that my need is greater and my husband allows me to play on the provisal that he knows who, where and when...... (and of course he gets occassional play time to).

I appreciate some people will find our situation a little odd, and dont like the fact hat we are not a "proper couple", but we are honest and open, and I think that is what is more important. We have from the start ave said if the partners know then we are happy to play... if they dont then we cant.

S xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""society this and society that" demonstrates you haven't grasped the point I have set out and belies a general ignorance, i.e you think you are right and therefore not willing to examine whether or not you are.

Are you right or wrong? I can't answer that, but I fear neither can you"

I answered a post and if you want to discuss another issue then maybe you should start your own thread. As for knowing right and wrong, I know this much, you are not going to be on many peoples to meet list judging by your "limited views" on this topic and in ability to follow the post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I disagree, my point has relevance. Who decides what is right and wrong? Just because you think it is morally wrong does not make it so

"I disagree, my point has relevance. Who decides what is right and wrong?"

Erm... bit of an oxymoron there doncha think? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have found myself as the other woman to a married man a few times, and i have to admit that it does depend on the situation, and every person has their reason for doing what they do. However my first husband cheated on me, ie he had 3 affairs in the 2 year marriage..... I knew when it had happened, but he always denied it. To me it is the dishonesty and lies that I found worse.

My current husband knows I am here, and he and J have quite often played with me together, and I play with both of them, with others. Due to our current situation we have found that my need is greater and my husband allows me to play on the provisal that he knows who, where and when...... (and of course he gets occassional play time to).

I appreciate some people will find our situation a little odd, and dont like the fact hat we are not a "proper couple", but we are honest and open, and I think that is what is more important. We have from the start ave said if the partners know then we are happy to play... if they dont then we cant.

S xxxx"

Personally we think you have a good grasp on the "Swinging" meaning. You have met us at the social and we chatted and there are no lies, dishonesty or deciept in what you do so therefore who is likely to be harmed ? Surely this is what the meaning of Swinging is? Friends, flirting, fun and of course fucking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Personally we think you have a good grasp on the "Swinging" meaning. You have met us at the social and we chatted and there are no lies, dishonesty or deciept in what you do so therefore who is likely to be harmed ? Surely this is what the meaning of Swinging is? Friends, flirting, fun and of course fucking "

Thank you for thinking so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well what can we say with the number of liars and cheats who have joined this site,not to mention the many odd. Bods too.Why can't we get back to the time when swinging had a good bit of honesty and respect not the female part of a cpl being treated like some notch on married mens bed posts.This site was primeraly set up for genuine swingers YES mature adults

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"a different question I would posit is this:

Is morality governed on a societal or an individual basis?

If you think your morality is an individual construct then your opinion on matters of morality is yours and only yours and should not impinge on the moral framework of others. If on the other hand your morality is constructed by society, then that is as much as to say "I don't go round killing stealing and raping, not because I think it's wrong, but because of societal pressure"

I ask the question in this way because morality is a multi faceted concept and a s a result, personal opinions on the morality of another persons actions should be that, personal, and not shared. Though I concede the original question does invite opinions to be expressed, I feel that the original question is very stilted.

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most of us dont go round 'killing and stealing and raping' not only because it is a question of morality but because the majority of us don't want to spend the 10 to 15+ years in one of Her Majesty correctional facilites such behaviour would almost inevitably attract. But I also Agree with Steel and Saphire, changing the subject of discussion because the general consensus differs from your opinion is not the way to go. If you beleive what you do is right for you in your circumstances then that is between you and your conscience but don't expect others to condone it to ease it for you.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Well what can we say with the number of liars and cheats who have joined this site,not to mention the many odd. Bods too.Why can't we get back to the time when swinging had a good bit of honesty and respect not the female part of a cpl being treated like some notch on married mens bed posts.This site was primeraly set up for genuine swingers YES mature adults "

A good point, well put.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

most of us dont go round 'killing and stealing and raping' not only because it is a question of morality but because the majority of us don't want to spend the 10 to 15+ years in one of Her Majesty correctional facilites such behaviour would almost inevitably attract. But I also Agree with Steel and Saphire, changing the subject of discussion because the general consensus differs from your opinion is not the way to go. If you beleive what you do is right for you in your circumstances then that is between you and your conscience but don't expect others to condone it to ease it for you.

At no time have I done that, on another note your assertion re going to prison for crimes is exactly my point, that is what stops you, not the morality. Hence why it is an important point as to who is the governer of morality?

God this is so frustrating, I haven't shot down personal opinion, merely suggested an alternate way to view the question. If the village idiots are going to chase me down with pitchforks for trying to open reasoned and intelligent debate then I don't belong on this forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you think ourselves and Funcouple are idiots then you are correct and you do not belong on this forum. How about you go start your own thread and stop Hijacking this one ? Maybe you will be joined by other members who want to discuss your questions and "ways of viewing the question" as we "idiots" (Masters degree in Mechanical Engineering and a Phd in the Uni of Life) do not want the hassle of trying to explain to someone who wont listen that the question has been asked, we have answered and you have tried to Hijack. Now please start your own thread and leave this one alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personal experience i think married men who cheat are the lowest scum of all, and the fem's who KNOW they are married are even worse...............Yes cheated on wife !!!!

Sayingf that i now know she did me a VERY BIG Favour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personal experience i think married men who cheat are the lowest scum of all, and the fem's who KNOW they are married are even worse...............Yes cheated on wife !!!!

Sayingf that i now know she did me a VERY BIG Favour "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know if I dare enter this debate!

I guess the only point I wish to make when everyone is this thread is making judgements on others morals is that morality is subjective..

There are plenty of people who would hold the view that taking a photo of yourself fucking etc and putting it on the web is morally wrong, plenty see swinging in its totality morally wrong, the majority of the population at least publically would say dogging in immoral.

I have never understood why swingers, a group that are so harshly judged by others are so judgemental themselves.

Personally if you are married say you are and let others have the chance to make their informed decisions on playing or not. If you are fortunate to be in a loving relationship which is also highly sexed and open bear in mind that in society you are likely to be in the minority

Peace and love and all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if I dare enter this debate!

I guess the only point I wish to make when everyone is this thread is making judgements on others morals is that morality is subjective..

There are plenty of people who would hold the view that taking a photo of yourself fucking etc and putting it on the web is morally wrong, plenty see swinging in its totality morally wrong, the majority of the population at least publically would say dogging in immoral.

I have never understood why swingers, a group that are so harshly judged by others are so judgemental themselves.

Personally if you are married say you are and let others have the chance to make their informed decisions on playing or not. If you are fortunate to be in a loving relationship which is also highly sexed and open bear in mind that in society you are likely to be in the minority

Peace and love and all that"

Well said and we think this should be a final to the post. We think cheating is the absolute bottom of the world, we dont cheat, never have, never will and wont meet people who cheat. Only our view tho and it blatantly does not count for anything according to few who have posted on this thread !!!!

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By *ickiemintMan
over a year ago

Somewhere NW London


"Steel and sahpire you have to be joking most people on here are living a lie as for me wife unable to have sex so what does one do wank the rest of my life

Try reading the OPs initial post, without the wifes knowledge is WRONG in our opinion, how ever if the wife gives her permission...... as for wanking the rest of your life, well that would make you a wanker "

LMAO...right on...!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surprise surprise,the single bloke kicking up all the fuss on this thread has thrown his toys out of the pram and left the site.......................no doubt he will return with the same pics but a different name.........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surprise surprise,the single bloke kicking up all the fuss on this thread has thrown his toys out of the pram and left the site.......................no doubt he will return with the same pics but a different name......... "
definately agree on that one pmsl xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i love how people bring up marriage vows as a reason to now meet a married man...............

" forsaking all others"

and yet, here you are, married couples, on a swinging site. hypocrites.

each to their own. i couldnt give a damn the status of someone i meet. quite simply, if its not me they meet, it will be someone else. im not here to take the moral highground. im on a swinging site for christ sake!! qand anyway, not a damn thing to stop someone saying they are single- what you gonna do, a background check?? lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its all subjective.

Everyone defines morality on what they find acceptable, and how they personally interpret behaviour. A non swinger would find meeting a couple abhorrent. In their eyes that would be going against everything a marriage stood for.

A swinger would have no issue with meeting a couple but lots appear to find a married person (male or female) playing as a single to be abhorrent and against everything a marriage stood for.

The only difference is who is having the truth hidden from them. The married person playing on their own is keeping the secret from one person more than the couple playing.

At the end of the day, its very easy to say you would never do it irrespective of the situation. The reality is that no one truly knows until they are in that situation. We may have a very sure idea, but that's again more of a reflection of how we would like to behave if we find ourselves there.

A friend of mines wife decided after their child was born she no longer needed sex. She didn't want another child, so it wasn't needed. For 4 years he went without. Her opinion was that if she didn't need it, nor should he. He loved them both to bits, but I couldn't judge him when he broke and had an affair. Its very easy to judge when we aren't in the same position.

On the other side of the coin is someone in a happy, sexually satisfying marriage who just cheats for the hell of it because is there. There is no justification for they could use for that other than personal gratification at others expense.

I won't try to judge others as I won't know the background, I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt but inside you know that humans have some urges that seem to defy logic.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"i love how people bring up marriage vows as a reason to now meet a married man...............

" forsaking all others"

and yet, here you are, married couples, on a swinging site. hypocrites.

each to their own. i couldnt give a damn the status of someone i meet. quite simply, if its not me they meet, it will be someone else. im not here to take the moral highground. im on a swinging site for christ sake!! qand anyway, not a damn thing to stop someone saying they are single- what you gonna do, a background check?? lol. "

Except.. us married couples on this swinging site.. lets not forget where swinging started (wife swap) are all grown upvmentally mature..consenting adults. The other half of a married couple who is being cheated on is hardly consenting now are they. We do it not only with each others knowledge but with each other. The whole issue hear is that we arent hurting anyone where as a married person doing it on their own behind the other persons back is. or at least would be if she found out or he for that matter.

And as for needs must the body is a very clever thing and can easily cope with supply and demand, if its not supplied that much it does demand that much. How horrific for a wife to go off it after childbirth lol.

As is said it is a swinging site and alot if not most genuine swingers would not use it to cheat as most wouldnt dream of doing that. Thats the whole thing tho its not about the sex with others.. ie consentung.. its the cheating and risking ripping someones whole life apart that we are frowning on.. one said yes i married but shes a bore in bed.. maybe its him thats a bore.. or maybe shes already having wild sex on here so doesnt need his pitiful bit anymore.

People really need to get a grip.. as i said way early on each to their own, but this was started to ask who would meet marrieds and for peoples personal opinions and thats whats been giving. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and the right not to have others slate then for it. We have said we dont agree wuth chating and wouldnt knowingly meet one.. and sorry but yiu get very good at finding them out before you meet them.

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By *dgar47Man
over a year ago

Stafford

"In sickness and in health"?

I am sure there is more - let me see now, its coming, that's it "foresaking all others!"

Clearly swinging is not consistent with judeo-christianity.

We are all entitled to a moral point of view but don't pretend they are moral absolutes!

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


""In sickness and in health"?

I am sure there is more - let me see now, its coming, that's it "foresaking all others!"

Clearly swinging is not consistent with judeo-christianity.

We are all entitled to a moral point of view but don't pretend they are moral absolutes!"

You entered into a partnership when you get married.. going behind the others back is not a partnership. It doesnt matter what sort if wording you use for it its not fair on the other half being cheated. the rest of us do not cheat and have a very equal and open honest marriage. Its up to the indivudual if they feel persuing their own wants is greater than their want not to risk the marriage. But yes everyone has dufferent morals clearly seen by the amount of animal cruelty in the world. so probably alot happy to hurt the person they married.. or at least risk hurting their feelings in the worst possible way.

Its not us open married couples that need to grown up now us it. Using a swingers site for it too doesnt make it right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and choices in life. I don't think anyone should judge or be judged. Enjoy life as we are here one minute and gone the next. If we make the wrong choices in life we live with the consequences. Who are we to say what is right or wrong.

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area


"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and choices in life. I don't think anyone should judge or be judged. Enjoy life as we are here one minute and gone the next. If we make the wrong choices in life we live with the consequences. Who are we to say what is right or wrong. "

This is what i have said many times in this and other threads tho. Each ti their own but for us its wring. but if it sits well with others thats their business

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"The only difference is who is having the truth hidden from them. The married person playing on their own is keeping the secret from one person more than the couple playing."

Let's not split hairs about who is keeping what from whom.... the bottom line is, as a couple who swing together, there is no deceite, no lying, no stories, no secrets, whereas, for the married person who "swings" on their own, there is a bucket load of this, and then some.

Whilst we prefer not to be involved in playing with those that are "playing away from home", we cant be sure that, at a club or party, we may have done so, without our knowledge. More lying (by omission).

However, we prefer not to be complicit in deceiving others, swinging for us means trust, honesty and friendship.

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