FabSwingers.com forum: British and Irish Lions Thread 2021

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Can't believe how quick the last 4 years has gone!!

Thought I'd kick the thread off early this year, ahead of the squad announcement this coming Thursday.

Really gutted George North is already ruled out with a ruptured ACL.

So any squad predictions? Bolters?

From most of the rugby groups I'm oon,the Scots and Irish are already claiming they'll be hard done by in the selection process

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No Farrell and only english player i’d bring is Itoje but even then thats debatable for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is out there .. but in terms of bolters I'd like to see Hardy go at 9 unless he's still injured.

Would start a lot of Welsh in the test 15.

Ken, toby, tips, wyn, awj, bigger, fox, adams.

Exciting summer ahead whatever the selection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My starting 15 squad

1 W Jones

2 K Owens

3 Furlong

4 Itoje

5 AW Jones (captain)

6 T Curry

7 H Watson

8 Faletau

9 C Murray

10 D Biggar

11 LR Zammit

12 Henshaw

13 Ringrose

14 VD Merwe

15 Hogg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like that team tbf, I think that's close to what he'd pick right now. But I think adams is made for SA (loves the physical side) so i'd have him instead of lzr which kinda sounds crazy after 6N. I also think tipuric for watson and potentially experience of JD at 13.

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By *ackwoody11Man
over a year ago

swansea

I think the exter 8 will Get a shout as something different but Toby will start tests

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By *efByOrgasmsMan
over a year ago

Heads of the Valleys

Gutted for North as he was playing really well.

Not being bias but on form there can't be many English representing this year. Think they'll be a few more Scots in this squad as previous tours

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think the exter 8 will Get a shout as something different but Toby will start tests "

Everyones calling for Simmonds to go, especially with Billy V being totally out of form, I'd love to see him go

Marcus Smith is being chucked about as a possible bolter today aswell

I can see it mind, Bigger, Faz and Smith

Sexton is past it imo, too fragile now, and Russell is too erratic

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My starting 15 squad

1 W Jones

2 K Owens

3 Furlong

4 Itoje

5 AW Jones (captain)

6 T Curry

7 H Watson

8 Faletau

9 C Murray

10 D Biggar

11 LR Zammit

12 Henshaw

13 Ringrose

14 VD Merwe

15 Hogg

I like (some of) it CJ

Anthony Watson in for Duhan and for purely biased purposes, Tips in for Hamish and I could definitely work with this starting XV

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My starting 15 squad

1 W Jones

2 K Owens

3 Furlong

4 Itoje

5 AW Jones (captain)

6 T Curry

7 H Watson

8 Faletau

9 C Murray

10 D Biggar

11 LR Zammit

12 Henshaw

13 Ringrose

14 VD Merwe

15 Hogg

I like (some of) it CJ

Anthony Watson in for Duhan and for purely biased purposes, Tips in for Hamish and I could definitely work with this starting XV

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My starting 15 squad

1 W Jones

2 K Owens

3 Furlong

4 Itoje

5 AW Jones (captain)

6 T Curry

7 H Watson

8 Faletau

9 C Murray

10 D Biggar

11 LR Zammit

12 Henshaw

13 Ringrose

14 VD Merwe

15 Hogg

I like (some of) it CJ

Anthony Watson in for Duhan and for purely biased purposes, Tips in for Hamish and I could definitely work with this starting XV

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By *reen31Man
over a year ago

Hawick

Not bad selection

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This is out there .. but in terms of bolters I'd like to see Hardy go at 9 unless he's still injured.

Would start a lot of Welsh in the test 15.

Ken, toby, tips, wyn, awj, bigger, fox, adams.

Exciting summer ahead whatever the selection.

9 is definitely our weakest position

So Hardy may well be in with an outside shot

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Bigger rather than Russell ?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bigger rather than Russell ?????

I think Russell will be in the squad as a second half sub.

Biggar to set the game plan as he knows how gats works.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bigger rather than Russell ?????

I think Russell will be in the squad as a second half sub.

Biggar to set the game plan as he knows how gats works."

Russell will be lucky to go

He can be class on his day but he can be disastrous also

Erratic player

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Bigger is a good fit for SA. Happy to mix it physically with anybody, strong defensively and good tactically. He's had plenty of critics, but I think in Wales we won't realise how good he was until he finishes.

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By *ackwoody11Man
over a year ago

swansea

Bigger will be test 10 with Russell on tour with faz and hogg as back up 10 if push comes to shove

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bigger will be test 10 with Russell on tour with faz and hogg as back up 10 if push comes to shove "

Hogg at 10 ? No chance of that ! He's a fullback and no good at 10.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think Bigger is a good fit for SA. Happy to mix it physically with anybody, strong defensively and good tactically. He's had plenty of critics, but I think in Wales we won't realise how good he was until he finishes.

Definitely

Biggar is hugely underrated and under appreciated in Wales

No other international fly halves have come near him in recent years

People seem to have this obsession with having a flashy fly half these days, never mind if their defence is shit, goalkicking mediocre etc.

Like you say, when he retires only then people will appreciate what a quality player he is

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Definitely

Biggar is hugely underrated and under appreciated in Wales

No other international fly halves have come near him in recent years

People seem to have this obsession with having a flashy fly half these days, never mind if their defence is shit, goalkicking mediocre etc.

Like you say, when he retires only then people will appreciate what a quality player he is

To clarify, International *Welsh* fly halves, incase people start screaming at me about BB

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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Lol... I couldn't figure out why there was so much favour towards Welsh players.... and then I realised the thread is homed in the Wales forum, and not the Lounge part of the site

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lol... I couldn't figure out why there was so much favour towards Welsh players.... and then I realised the thread is homed in the Wales forum, and not the Lounge part of the site

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Imagine thinking us Welsh could possibly be biased

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol... I couldn't figure out why there was so much favour towards Welsh players.... and then I realised the thread is homed in the Wales forum, and not the Lounge part of the site

....

Quite true, besides the fact that they won the six nations and a certain team that plays in white were not on form and were below the other celtic nations

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

BBC reporting AWJ to be named Captain today

How anyone ever thought it could be anyone else whilst that man is still able to lace his boots is beyond me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally agree. Must go down as one of the best leaders that Rugby has ever seen, if not the best.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Live coverage starting now on Sky Sports Mix

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Right, I think I'm still in shock

Backs:

Josh Adams (Cardiff and Wales).

Bundee Aki (Connacht and Ireland)

Dan Biggar (Saints and Wales) Elliot Daley (Saracens and England)

Gareth Davies (Scarlets and Wales)

Owen Farrell (Saracens and England)

Chris Harris (Gloucester and Scotland)

Robbie Henshaw (Leinster and Ireland)

Stuart Hogg (Chiefs and Scotland)

Connor Murray (Munster and Ireland)

Ali Price (Glasgow and Scotland)

Louis Rees Zammit (Gloucester and Wales)

Finn Russell (R92 and Scotland)

Duhan Van De Merwe (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Anthony Watson (Bath and England)

Liam Williams (Scarlets and Wales)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Forwards:

Tadhg Beirne (Munster and Ireland)

Jack Conan (Leinster and Ireland)

Luke Cowan Dickie (Saracens and England)

Zander Fagerson (Glasgow and Scotland)

Talupe Faletau (Bath and Wales)

Jamie George (Saracens and England)

Ian Henderson (Ulster and Ireland)

Johny Hill (Chiefs and England)

Maro Itoje (Saracens and England)

Alun Wyn Jones CAPTAIN (Ospreys and Wales)

Wyn Jones (Scarlets and Wales)

Courtney Lawes (Saints and England)

Ken Owens (Scarlets and Wales)

Andrew Porter (Leinster and Ireland)

Sam Simmonds (Chiefs and England)

Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Justin Tipuric (Ospreys and Wales)

Mako Vulipola (Saracens and England)

Hamish Watson (Edinburgh and Scotland)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Forwards:

Tadhg Beirne (Munster and Ireland)

Jack Conan (Leinster and Ireland)

Luke Cowan Dickie (Saracens and England)

Zander Fagerson (Glasgow and Scotland)

Talupe Faletau (Bath and Wales)

Jamie George (Saracens and England)

Ian Henderson (Ulster and Ireland)

Johny Hill (Chiefs and England)

Maro Itoje (Saracens and England)

Alun Wyn Jones CAPTAIN (Ospreys and Wales)

Wyn Jones (Scarlets and Wales)

Courtney Lawes (Saints and England)

Ken Owens (Scarlets and Wales)

Andrew Porter (Leinster and Ireland)

Sam Simmonds (Chiefs and England)

Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Justin Tipuric (Ospreys and Wales)

Mako Vulipola (Saracens and England)

Hamish Watson (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Just realised I missed out poor

Tom Curry (Sharks and England)

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Few surprises tbh.

Couple missing.

Couple who shouldn't go.

But selection must be a nightmare.

Good luck to those picked.

Comiserations to those left behind.

Bring on the Box.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Josh Novidi not picked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forwards:

Tadhg Beirne (Munster and Ireland)

Jack Conan (Leinster and Ireland)

Luke Cowan Dickie (Saracens and England)

Zander Fagerson (Glasgow and Scotland)

Talupe Faletau (Bath and Wales)

Jamie George (Saracens and England)

Ian Henderson (Ulster and Ireland)

Johny Hill (Chiefs and England)

Maro Itoje (Saracens and England)

Alun Wyn Jones CAPTAIN (Ospreys and Wales)

Wyn Jones (Scarlets and Wales)

Courtney Lawes (Saints and England)

Ken Owens (Scarlets and Wales)

Andrew Porter (Leinster and Ireland)

Sam Simmonds (Chiefs and England)

Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Justin Tipuric (Ospreys and Wales)

Mako Vulipola (Saracens and England)

Hamish Watson (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Just realised I missed out poor

Tom Curry (Sharks and England)

Wish gatland had missed him too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Forwards:

Tadhg Beirne (Munster and Ireland)

Jack Conan (Leinster and Ireland)

Luke Cowan Dickie (Saracens and England)

Zander Fagerson (Glasgow and Scotland)

Talupe Faletau (Bath and Wales)

Jamie George (Saracens and England)

Ian Henderson (Ulster and Ireland)

Johny Hill (Chiefs and England)

Maro Itoje (Saracens and England)

Alun Wyn Jones CAPTAIN (Ospreys and Wales)

Wyn Jones (Scarlets and Wales)

Courtney Lawes (Saints and England)

Ken Owens (Scarlets and Wales)

Andrew Porter (Leinster and Ireland)

Sam Simmonds (Chiefs and England)

Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Justin Tipuric (Ospreys and Wales)

Mako Vulipola (Saracens and England)

Hamish Watson (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Just realised I missed out poor

Tom Curry (Sharks and England)

Wish gatland had missed him too"

Nasty lol

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Chris Harris

(Gatland obviously sees something I have missed in all the games I've watched him play)

Good to see Ali in the mix, even if it is only to add cover ... but watch out as he will be fighting for a test start or bench for sure..

Hamish Watson - no brainer (you know he was awarded Player of the 6 Nations 2021

)

Z Fagerson - great call and well deserved as he has played some brilliant rugby to earn a place in the squad - likewise with Sutherland

Russell - you only need to have watched him at Racing to know he is a very different player now to a year ago. Making much better decisions, able to zoom out and temprament more 'balanced' - he's my starting 10 for sure

van der Merwe - incredible strength - handy to have against the Bok

Hogg - good cover for No.10 (hahaha lol - I dont want to see a repeat of the Italy match when it became apparent very quickly he is not a natural No.10!!!)

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I wondered where the rugby chat was…. Lol

I think there are some lucky… lucky boys on that plane…

I mean.. I love me bundee aki as much as any Irishman.. but there is no way he should go ahead of ringrose!

Also baffled by some of the 2nd row picks… I would have taken James Ryan and the younger gray over lawes and Johnny hill! Gatland basically telegraph that AWJ and Itoje are the test starters!

Honestly itoje and Ryan were my starters!

Jack Conan is another lucky boy to go….

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I wondered where the rugby chat was…. Lol

I think there are some lucky… lucky boys on that plane…

I mean.. I love me bundee aki as much as any Irishman.. but there is no way he should go ahead of ringrose!

Also baffled by some of the 2nd row picks… I would have taken James Ryan and the younger gray over lawes and Johnny hill! Gatland basically telegraph that AWJ and Itoje are the test starters!

Honestly itoje and Ryan were my starters!

Jack Conan is another lucky boy to go…."

I know it seems harsh but the omission of Ringrose and Ryan in particular may well have come down the crushing Leinster had off La Rochelle last weekend. Skelton made him look inferior. I am a huge Johnny Hill fan, didn't really show up for England but has been on fire for Chiefs. Conan seems to have come from nowhere really, never really done much for me but Gatland knows his business

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Chris Harris

(Gatland obviously sees something I have missed in all the games I've watched him play)

Good to see Ali in the mix, even if it is only to add cover ... but watch out as he will be fighting for a test start or bench for sure..

Hamish Watson - no brainer (you know he was awarded Player of the 6 Nations 2021

)

Z Fagerson - great call and well deserved as he has played some brilliant rugby to earn a place in the squad - likewise with Sutherland

van der Merwe - incredible strength - handy to have against the Bok

Hogg - good cover for No.10 (hahaha lol - I dont want to see a repeat of the Italy match when it became apparent very quickly he is not a natural No.10!!!)

All well deserved places for the Scots. Landed for Duhan, one of my favourite non Welsh players. Exciting to watch

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Chris Harris

(Gatland obviously sees something I have missed in all the games I've watched him play)

Good to see Ali in the mix, even if it is only to add cover ... but watch out as he will be fighting for a test start or bench for sure..

Hamish Watson - no brainer (you know he was awarded Player of the 6 Nations 2021

)

Z Fagerson - great call and well deserved as he has played some brilliant rugby to earn a place in the squad - likewise with Sutherland

van der Merwe - incredible strength - handy to have against the Bok

Hogg - good cover for No.10 (hahaha lol - I dont want to see a repeat of the Italy match when it became apparent very quickly he is not a natural No.10!!!)

All well deserved places for the Scots. Landed for Duhan, one of my favourite non Welsh players. Exciting to watch

Legs pumping , needs more than 2 to stop him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great squad I think we will have good chance.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"I wondered where the rugby chat was…. Lol

I think there are some lucky… lucky boys on that plane…

I mean.. I love me bundee aki as much as any Irishman.. but there is no way he should go ahead of ringrose!

Also baffled by some of the 2nd row picks… I would have taken James Ryan and the younger gray over lawes and Johnny hill! Gatland basically telegraph that AWJ and Itoje are the test starters!

Honestly itoje and Ryan were my starters!

Jack Conan is another lucky boy to go…."

Just remember this isn’t the Lounge, we are in the Wales section, so there may be a small preference for all things in a red jersey ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I wondered where the rugby chat was…. Lol

I think there are some lucky… lucky boys on that plane…

I mean.. I love me bundee aki as much as any Irishman.. but there is no way he should go ahead of ringrose!

Also baffled by some of the 2nd row picks… I would have taken James Ryan and the younger gray over lawes and Johnny hill! Gatland basically telegraph that AWJ and Itoje are the test starters!

Honestly itoje and Ryan were my starters!

Jack Conan is another lucky boy to go….

Just remember this isn’t the Lounge, we are in the Wales section, so there may be a small preference for all things in a red jersey ...

There's only one red jersey from now on

#AllForOne

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"I wondered where the rugby chat was…. Lol

I think there are some lucky… lucky boys on that plane…

I mean.. I love me bundee aki as much as any Irishman.. but there is no way he should go ahead of ringrose!

Also baffled by some of the 2nd row picks… I would have taken James Ryan and the younger gray over lawes and Johnny hill! Gatland basically telegraph that AWJ and Itoje are the test starters!

Honestly itoje and Ryan were my starters!

Jack Conan is another lucky boy to go….

Just remember this isn’t the Lounge, we are in the Wales section, so there may be a small preference for all things in a red jersey ...

There's only one red jersey from now on

#AllForOne

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forwards:

Tadhg Beirne (Munster and Ireland)

Jack Conan (Leinster and Ireland)

Luke Cowan Dickie (Saracens and England)

Zander Fagerson (Glasgow and Scotland)

Talupe Faletau (Bath and Wales)

Jamie George (Saracens and England)

Ian Henderson (Ulster and Ireland)

Johny Hill (Chiefs and England)

Maro Itoje (Saracens and England)

Alun Wyn Jones CAPTAIN (Ospreys and Wales)

Wyn Jones (Scarlets and Wales)

Courtney Lawes (Saints and England)

Ken Owens (Scarlets and Wales)

Andrew Porter (Leinster and Ireland)

Sam Simmonds (Chiefs and England)

Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Justin Tipuric (Ospreys and Wales)

Mako Vulipola (Saracens and England)

Hamish Watson (Edinburgh and Scotland)

Just realised I missed out poor

Tom Curry (Sharks and England)

Wish gatland had missed him too

Nasty lol

Honestly I don't buy the hype. Outplayed by scot, wales and ire back rows this year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awj as captain guy is a Machine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sam Simmonds is a finger up to Eddie Jones I recon

Not good enough for the England team, yet picked for the lions

Looking at the team in more depth and listening to some of the pundits, it looks like he's going for a fast tempo set of forwards to give quick opportunities to the backs.

If that doesn't work, he's got a good bench to go into the attrition game.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just watched Sincklers post match interview after the Bath game, something in my eye.... Pity mun

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By *alclmMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Can't believe my luck.

I was going out there to watch them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was a bit upset

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Can't believe my luck.

I was going out there to watch them "

I have done SA with the lions… it was epic!

I so want to do NZ!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Porter's been ruled out of the tour through injury, Sinckler has been called up

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lions team to face Japan on Saturday

15:Sanjay

14:Adams

13:Henshaw

12:Aki

11:DVDM

10:Biggar

9:Murray

1:Sutherland

2:Ken

3:Fagerson

4:Henderson

5:AWJ (C)

6:Beirne

7:H.Watson

8:Conan

Subs:

16:George

17:Wyn Jones

18:Furlong

19:Lawes

20:Faletau

21:Price

22:Faz

23:A.Watson

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By *oaming doggerMan
over a year ago

manchester

Looks like gats has picked the guys he wants to see more of first or to see how people work together.

Exciting team and good scrummaging front row

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm shocked at his front row starters

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm shocked at his front row starters

I think he probably wants to have a look at the Scottish lads, plus with the game being at Murrayfield

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By *oaming doggerMan
over a year ago

manchester

Apart from AWJ the pack is mostly the midweekers.

The scottish lads have proven they can play at high levels, scotland have had a very light oack for a while now and still hold their own in the front row against bigger and more aggresive props. Apart from Wyn Jones, they are the best scrummagers in the squad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tips is in for Hamish

Picked up a concussion in training, hopefully he will be ok

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Apart from AWJ the pack is mostly the midweekers.

You have to remember a lot of the English lads were not considered because the Saracens lads didn’t link up with the group till Monday after the championship playoff…. Or the others played at the weekend in the premiership semi, or are playing in the finals on Saturday …

So this team was always going to be basically pro14 players…

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Apart from AWJ the pack is mostly the midweekers.

So this team was always going to be basically pro14 players…"

Good point Fab

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

.. and there goes your captain… damn

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm not watching aa am out wedding shopping but have heard it didn't look good

And Tips has gone off??

Gutted

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

"I'm not watching aa am out wedding shopping but have heard it didn't look good

And Tips has gone off??

Gutted

2 Ospreys gone with shoulder injuries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awj suspected dislocated shoulder.

Tips, bashed his wrist.

Both going for scan later.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Awj suspected dislocated shoulder.

Tips, bashed his wrist.

Both going for scan later."

AWJ out of the tour…..

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Okay…now 2 questions….

1) who do you bring in as replacement… is it a straight choice of Gray or Ryan?

2) who now leads the tour… anyone think of a choice other than Itoje?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Okay…now 2 questions….

1) who do you bring in as replacement… is it a straight choice of Gray or Ryan?

2) who now leads the tour… anyone think of a choice other than Itoje? "

Farrell or Ken

I don't think Gats will go for Itoje

As for 2nd row replacement,fuck knows

I'm not a fan of either you mentioned

I don't really care who goes

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tips is out of the tour aswell

My heart is literally broken

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Beard and Navidi to replace AWJ and Tips

Connor Murray to become Tour Captain

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Sorry have to disagree navidi a good player but not quite lions quality yet as for beard don t think he will ever be lions quality. Good international but not a lion.

Have to agree with previius comments grey and ryan

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Disagree all you like

Gatland makes the selections, not you nor I

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sorry have to disagree navidi a good player but not quite lions quality yet as for beard don t think he will ever be lions quality. Good international but not a lion.

Have to agree with previius comments grey and ryan

It's been confirmed BTW, am not stating my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farrel or the sherrif will be captain.

Bit I don't know why they don't let biggs step up to the mark.

Disagree with previous comment about navidi as his stats during the six nations and other internationals speak for themselves. He missed out on selection due to numbers, nothing more.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Farrel or the sherrif will be captain.

Bit I don't know why they don't let biggs step up to the mark.

Disagree with previous comment about navidi as his stats during the six nations and other internationals speak for themselves. He missed out on selection due to numbers, nothing more."

Connor Murray has been confirmed Captain CJ

Beard and Navidi replacing AWJ and Tips

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Thats great news for them but i think quite a few people will be thinking wrong choice. But glad the honour has gone to 2 more welshmen .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Doesn't matter what people think,

Gatland is the only one with a say

I suggest genuine Lions supporters get behind everyone regardless of nationality or personal opinion

#AllForOne

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Doesn't matter what people think,

Gatland is the only one with a say

I suggest genuine Lions supporters get behind everyone regardless of nationality or personal opinion

#AllForOne

I’m pretty sure Gats and the coaching staff will have done their homework on the majority of home nations players and selected who they feel will enhance the group. It’s their selection to make.

All good for debate and discussion, but folk calling selections a disgrace and shocking is laughable. Although it is a chuckle to see the rise generated out the Irish especially their media.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Doesn't matter what people think,

Gatland is the only one with a say

I suggest genuine Lions supporters get behind everyone regardless of nationality or personal opinion

#AllForOne

I’m pretty sure Gats and the coaching staff will have done their homework on the majority of home nations players and selected who they feel will enhance the group. It’s their selection to make.

All good for debate and discussion, but folk calling selections a disgrace and shocking is laughable. Although it is a chuckle to see the rise generated out the Irish especially their media."

Most with those sorts of views are the sorts who only crawl out a few weeks a year for the 6 nations and base all their opinions on a few weeks of International rugby

They have probably never watched any of these guys play a minute of club rugby in their lives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just heard on BBC Wales radio that AWJ may be part of the tour after all.

His injury isn't as serious as first thaught and they are expecting his ability to recover is so good it will allow him to play some part in the tour at a later date.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry guys I've completely neglected this thread of late , mind been elsewhere

Excellent first try for Zammit, abso landed

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Have to give a shout out to Leigh Halfpenny injuring his ACL in the 50th second for Wales on his 100th cap bless him. Awful, sad scenes. Everything crossed for a swift recovery

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

"Sorry guys I've completely neglected this thread of late , mind been elsewhere

Excellent first try for Zammit, abso landed

Shows what he can do when he has a positive attacking stand off running the show! ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sorry guys I've completely neglected this thread of late , mind been elsewhere

Excellent first try for Zammit, abso landed

Shows what he can do when he has a positive attacking stand off running the show! ??"

If Fin could tighten up his defence and be far less erratic he could really stick his hand up

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

He is the only stand off who the boks are worried about. Biggar is dependable but very predictable.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He is the only stand off who the boks are worried about. Biggar is dependable but very predictable. "

He's too much of a liability unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I fucking love Johnny Hill

Absolutely love the man

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

"He is the only stand off who the boks are worried about. Biggar is dependable but very predictable.

He's too much of a liability unfortunately

Not at all, by far the better player

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He is the only stand off who the boks are worried about. Biggar is dependable but very predictable.

He's too much of a liability unfortunately

Not at all, by far the better player"

If he can lose the erratic part of his game he will be in with a shout

The South Africans will be ruthless and capitalise on any errors

Hopefully this tour will do him good and he can tighten up his defence and all round game

Very entertaining player to watch

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Josh Adams nailed on surely??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Josh Adams nailed on surely??

Yep

Hogg was fighting hard for his place against wliams.

What about scrum half ? Yes murry is captain but some good performances today

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Josh Adams nailed on surely??

Yep

Hogg was fighting hard for his place against wliams.

What about scrum half ? Yes murry is captain but some good performances today

Murray to start in the tests with either/or on the bench. Probably Gareth imo

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Saturdays game against the bulls is off… 4 bulls players have covid and whole squad now have to quarantine… no decision yet as to if game will be rescheduled or there will be new opponents…

Also yet more springboks come down with the virus.. the latest being lood de jager

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Saturdays game against the bulls is off… 4 bulls players have covid and whole squad now have to quarantine… no decision yet as to if game will be rescheduled or there will be new opponents…

Also yet more springboks come down with the virus.. the latest being lood de jager "

11 SA with covid. Whole team in isolation and no training either

Lions looking at another sharks match Saturday or Georgia as SA not available.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Shit news guys although inevitable I suppose

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Two of lions management test positive… two other members of management and two players are isolating at team hotel as close contacts

Tonight game against sharks will still take place but will be delayed till 7pm if the latest round of pcr tests come back as negative

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Two of lions management test positive… two other members of management and two players are isolating at team hotel as close contacts

Tonight game against sharks will still take place but will be delayed till 7pm if the latest round of pcr tests come back as negative "

I was just reading this on Twitter now

Fingers crossed

Fancy moving it back an hour and overlapping the football

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

South Africa vs Georgia game on Friday off… South Africa have 12 covid cases, Georgia have 4….

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wonder if the whole tour will end up being abandoned in the end??

I really hope not

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Game on tonight.. kick off at 7

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

By all accounts a 7/1 split on the bench with Finn the only back fit

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

1 player has now also tested positive, resulting in 8 players now being in isolation

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"By all accounts a 7/1 split on the bench with Finn the only back fit

I don’t think it is actually who is fit.. but I think it’s a good guess as to who has had to go into isolation….

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By all accounts a 7/1 split on the bench with Finn the only back fit

I don’t think it is actually who is fit.. but I think it’s a good guess as to who has had to go into isolation…."

Sorry poor choice of words on my part

Available it should say, not fit

Sanjay, Biggar, Murray, Hogg, Gareth Davies, Chris Harris, Tadhg Beirne, Anthony Watson all in isolation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope these positive cases in both camps don't but the tour in doubt. Had a tit full of watching the football x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hope these positive cases in both camps don't but the tour in doubt. Had a tit full of watching the football x"

And me

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

The lions were due to play the bulls on Saturday but they have had a covid outbreak in their camp.. so that game is off, and the lions are going to play the sharks again at the same time that was scheduled… Saturday with a 5pm kick off

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The lions were due to play the bulls on Saturday but they have had a covid outbreak in their camp.. so that game is off, and the lions are going to play the sharks again at the same time that was scheduled… Saturday with a 5pm kick off "

Lets hope that with limited players available some don't get flogged too much

Good to see a game on though, looking forward to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope they give the boys a rest who need it. Even if it means playing people out of position, always good to show your versatility.

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

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By *ia RooCouple
over a year ago

Margam Port Talbot

company I work for have the security for the team tough life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

Ospreys going to Umbro Dave

No more xxxxxxxxxxxxxls for us

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hope they give the boys a rest who need it. Even if it means playing people out of position, always good to show your versatility. "

Ken to start at Scrum Half

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

"The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

Ospreys going to Umbro Dave

No more xxxxxxxxxxxxxls for us

I know butt. Its a load of shit mun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Team to play the Sharks (again) tomorrow, captained by Jamie George

15:Sanjay

14:Watson

13:Daley

12:Harris

11:DVDM

10:Biggar

9:Davies

1:Sutherland

2:George (C)

3:Furlong

4:Itoje

5:Hill

6:Beirne

7:Hamish

8:Conan

Bench

16:Ken

17:Wyn Jones

18:Sinckler

19:Lawes

20:Simmonds

21:Curry

22:Murray

23:Finn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice to see Watson get a start. Slightly surprised George is captain tho

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

Thanks for letting me know Canterbury sizing is shit… I may end up getting a retro one from toffs instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great day of rugby today! NZ V Fiji on now, Wales at 1, England at 3, lions at 5 and Ireland at 7.15 enjoy all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Marcus Smith just been called up as injury cover for Finn

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Not looking good for Russell…

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Seen the South Africa A team for Wednesday??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Seen the South Africa A team for Wednesday??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's no A team, that games just become the unofficial 4th test!

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

AWJ. Welcome back!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"AWJ. Welcome back!!!"

18 days after dislocating his shoulder mind Dave

Fucking crazy stuff

Due to arrive with the squad tomorrow. Bets he plays some part on Saturday??

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

"The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

Ospreys lost out massively on kit sales when they moved. Cant see umbro sizes being much better. The new Wales tops are tiny too. Thought we were a growing(beefyness) population??

Thanks for letting me know Canterbury sizing is shit… I may end up getting a retro one from toffs instead

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"That's no A team, that games just become the unofficial 4th test! "

I know

Imagine having an A team with Cheslin in

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The whole tour is starting to turn into a bit of a farce. On the plus side, most of the lions gear is now half price. On the minus side, its Canterbury and the sizes are shit.

Josh Adams will score about 400 tries at this rate. Good luck boys. That is all

Thanks for letting me know Canterbury sizing is shit… I may end up getting a retro one from toffs instead

Canterbury runs really small

I'm a 12/14 on top and my lions polo is a 16, couldn't fit my arms in the 14

Under Armour I have always found the most generous

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Difficult first half

Cheslin is a little demon

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

This feels like a proper test match… and faf is doing all sorts of faf things!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tough game that

Lots the work on before the 1st test

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This feels like a proper test match… and faf is doing all sorts of faf things!!!

Ai like slamming the back of his head into Navidis face

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That was 'A' very thought game, some sore bodies heading into Saturday

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Lots of negatives to take from last nights performance. Very slow, poor start, very poor kicking performance, and why did Daly and Farrell make the plane??

On a big positive note. They have showed their hand by playing an almost full test side. Lots for us to study and analyze, but also lots for us to improve on.

Im still confident we can do this, as long as the selection is right and we execute our game plan and chances. And not forgetting that Captain fantastic is back in town too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think he'll start Daly at 13 for the tests

Been the plan all along

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" And not forgetting that Captain fantastic is back in town too.

And straight onto the bench for Saturday

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Adam Beard scoring that try made me leap so high off my seat I nearly butted the ceiling

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By *evan247Man
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Beard has looked very good.

Been really impressed with Cowan-Dickie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's everyones predictions for the first test team then?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I’ll put mine up starting XV tomorrow…

It’s going to be highly contested…

The other piece of news is it looks like now all 3 games may now be in Cape Town… rather than test 2 and 3 being played at altitude in Johannesburg

I think that is a big advantage for the lions…

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"What's everyones predictions for the first test team then? "

I’ll give you my forwards at the moment…

1 Sutherland

2 Owens

3 furlong

4 Henderson

5 itoje

6 Britney

7 Hamish Watson

8 faletau

I know… AJW….for me test 1 comes too soon.. I would start him in tests 2 and 3

I am happy to entertain arguments at 7 between Watson and Tom curry… and at 2 between Owens and Luke cowen dickie after the way he played yesterday….

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

1. Jones

2. LCD

3. Furlong

4. Lawes (AWJ if ready)

5. Itoje

6. Byrne

7. Curry

8. Faletau

9. Urgh, Murray I suppose

10. Biggar

11. Adams

12. Henshaw

13. Daley at a push

14. Watson

15. This is tight between Williams and Hogg

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"1. Jones

2. LCD

3. Furlong

4. Lawes (AWJ if ready)

5. Itoje

6. Byrne

7. Curry

8. Faletau

9. Urgh, Murray I suppose

10. Biggar

11. Adams

12. Henshaw

13. Daley at a push

14. Watson

15. This is tight between Williams and Hogg"

I'm with you with most of that 15, but deffo Sanjay at 15

And I have a sneaky feeling we may see Beard and AWJ start in the row

Itoje is a bit light

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Wouldn't be surprised if Itoji and Beard start, both have great ability at stopping rolling maul from set play. AWJ with impact from bench for 1st test. I think Aki will be in centre, with who im not sure, Daly seems to be the blue eyed boy at the moment (not sure why?). Only thought on Sanjay starting at 15 is the fact he can cover the back 3 from the bench, hope he plays tho, if we had 15 men with his heart we would be unstoppable. Good luck to the 23 chosen. Im positive they will do us proud.

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

"1. Jones

2. LCD

3. Furlong

4. Lawes (AWJ if ready)

5. Itoje

6. Byrne

7. Curry

8. Faletau

9. Urgh, Murray I suppose

10. Biggar

11. Adams

12. Henshaw

13. Daley at a push

14. Watson

15. This is tight between Williams and Hogg

I'm with you with most of that 15, but deffo Sanjay at 15

And I have a sneaky feeling we may see Beard and AWJ start in the row

Itoje is a bit light "

Quite a few positions where you can make an either/or selection. It's tough. When's the team out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1.Jones

2.LCD

3.Furlong

4.Itoje

5.Henderson (AWJ if fit enough and captain if he plays)

6.Bernie

7.Curry

8.Faletau

9.Murray (c)

10.Biggar

11.Adams

12.Henshaw

13.Harris

14.Watson

15.Williams

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Side leaked by all accounts.

No Sanjay. No Josh. No Toby. Hope its a publicity stunt

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The leaked side was correct

15:Hogg

14:Watson

13:Daly

12:Henshaw

11:DVDM

10:Biggar

9:Price

1:W.Jones

2:LCD

3:Furlong

4:Itoje

5:AWJ (C)

6:Lawes

7:Curry

8:Conan

16:Ken

17:Sutherland

18:Sinckler

19:Beirne

20:Watson

21:Curry

22:Farrel

23:Sanjay

I know we all have our favourites etc but from an impartial perspective what a massive moment for Ali Price

Worked his socks off to come from nowhere the claim the 9 shirt

Landed for the guy

I don't even have to say anything about Lord AWJ

He speaks for himself

Machine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Liam williams on the bench a surprise...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Liam williams on the bench a surprise..."

I don’t think it is… remember he literally has just come out of HIA protocol.. it’s probably wise to protect him and then start him in test 2 and 3…

It’s that back row that people are going to talk about.. I think Toby has been one of the best players on tour at 8… Lawes at 6 surprises me.. but I suppose it gives you a 3rd jumper… I would have gone with buryne at 6.. but bringing him off the bench gives you a dynamic boost

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Happy that Ali price is getting a chance because Conor Murray for me is way too slow around the ruck… josh adams can consider himself really unlikely to miss out.. you can see gatland had “need a big defender” on his mind, especially if you are going to have Elliott daly on his inside

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

Strong looking team, Jones at loose head instead of Sutherland is my only questionable call. Hope there isn’t many scrums as he is by far the weakest scrummaging loose head there. Great in the loose though! ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

DVDM is only real questionable selection... His defence is suspect but I suppose they want him to run over kolbe.

Adams is over rated, I would have had lrz but hey ho WG is pretty bang on usually

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"DVDM is only real questionable selection... His defence is suspect but I suppose they want him to run over kolbe.

Adams is over rated, I would have had lrz but hey ho WG is pretty bang on usually"

I love Duhan but he had been a bit defensively flakey in the past

No doubt this is no longer the case though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Strong looking team, Jones at loose head instead of Sutherland is my only questionable call. Hope there isn’t many scrums as he is by far the weakest scrummaging loose head there. Great in the loose though! ??"

No way

Wyn Jones is solid in the scrum

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Ali Price

Well deserved

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I just realised my bench 21: should read Murray not Curry

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By *anter and baguetteCouple
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

Think its a strange selection.

Not a lover of playing people out of position. Your selected for the Lions for being the best in the position you play surely??

Lets see what Saturday brings. Im still 100% behind those selected.

Good luck Lions.

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

No way

Wyn Jones is solid in the scrum

?? what scrums have you been watching?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really impressed with the team he's picked but Gatland had always picked the right team for the right situation so il go with it and hope for a W

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No way

Wyn Jones is solid in the scrum

?? what scrums have you been watching? "

Well I have watched him most of the season for Scarlets and Wales and have never seen a problem myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So how does everyone think we will fair tomorrow?? I'll go Lions by 4

DVDM to score the first try

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By *rMojoRisinMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

I’d be surprised if we win the first test, Bokkes will be very fired up, we need to hit them with intensity but keep discipline.

Can’t wait though!

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

Looking forward to the game. I think Lions by 3. First try I think will come off a line out and series of rucks. Wyn Jones sneaking over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think it will be a tight game the boks have so much power off the bench if we are to win need to get out to a good strong lead early. Fancy luke cowan dickie to score today

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wyn Jones out of today's Test with a shoulder injury

Sutherland to start with Mako coming onto the bench

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t think it the best side to put out anyway

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Don’t think it the best side to put out anyway "

Actually I had Sutherland in my starting 15…. So the only quibbles I have were Conan at 8 and lawes at 6… but we shall see…

Bring it on.. I am ready

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That back row a hard one to pick

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Looking forward to a great match.

Very proud of the 4 Scots in the starting line up.

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

"Disappointed with first half. Cant play behind the gain line against a rush defence. Need a more attacking fly half on now! "

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Disappointed with first half. Cant play behind the gain line against a rush defence. Need a more attacking fly half on now! "

He’s injured

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By *ervous69Man
over a year ago

Galashiels

Exactly, Hope he can make it through next week. Wish Smith was on bench for today

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Lions conditioning is way better than the boks… wasn’t pretty but they basically ran them off the pitch!

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