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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Surely there's someway of stopping blokes opening pretend couple profiles on here? The amount of friend invites and messages we have from 'couples' who blatantly are single guys with one verification from their single account is unreal! And theres even a few that have put in a load of ground work so we accept their friend invite because they seem genuine, only for every status they put up to say, just the male half tonight! It's frustrating more than anything! Can't see an easy answer but it's wrecking what used to be a really good site!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why is it wrecking the site?

just ignore the ones who have not got a few verifications of people meeting the male and female you will know if they are or not genuine then.

happy swinging there are good couples out there dont give up xx

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By *f3_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

[Removed by poster at 08/08/12 21:38:29]

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By *f3_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Just apply the "no verifications" filter and report couples profiles that have been verified by the guy's single profile, problem sorted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not just arrange for the females to chat to prove they are genuine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not just arrange for the females to chat to prove they are genuine? "

this!

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Why blank unverified people? We were all unverified at some point and 2 of the best meets we've had have been with unverified people. You all seriously ring every couple that shows interest ? We don't have the time or the patience for that. And thats not saying we have loads of interest, we're just busy people! Surely fixing the problem would be much easier for everyone?

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By *f3_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why blank unverified people? We were all unverified at some point and 2 of the best meets we've had have been with unverified people. You all seriously ring every couple that shows interest ? We don't have the time or the patience for that. And thats not saying we have loads of interest, we're just busy people! Surely fixing the problem would be much easier for everyone? "

If you don't like the suggestions come up with your own solution! You said yourselves that there is "no easy answer".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You all seriously ring every couple that shows interest ? We don't have the time or the patience for that. And thats not saying we have loads of interest, we're just busy people! "

It takes 1 min.

Far less time than getting messed about by fakers - which you seem to be having an problem with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You all seriously ring every couple that shows interest ? We don't have the time or the patience for that. And thats not saying we have loads of interest, we're just busy people!

It takes 1 min.

Far less time than getting messed about by fakers - which you seem to be having an problem with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check veris carefully. Narrow your list down to about two or three or so. Ask for fem to fem phone contact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should go to clubs like chams or socials . People get to know you and you also get verifications . We tend to not trust couples who have been on this site for a long time with one mans verification . Bit obvious lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Don't forget to REPORT any profiles that you think are fake before you block and move on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this site is littered with timewasters and frauds sadly. I don't think that the verification filter is necessarily a good thing as it precludes genuine new users of the site EVER getting a meet.

Oddly enough us single guys get frustrated by fraudy couples too. I have been duped by idiots on here too, I am reluctant to meet anyone who has been here for several months/a year plus with no veris (definite tourists)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think that the verification filter is necessarily a good thing as it precludes genuine new users of the site EVER getting a meet.

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Dont agree with that.

We'll meet unverifieds if as a couple they have pics of them both and both of them together on their profile.

So long they are what we are looking for, and they conduct themselves and their profile as a couple then anything else is down to our own methods of verifying people. Of course due to the filters - we'd have to contact them first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own, I do think that a great deal of people here are very close minded, that said it is their right to be so.

I don't think it will ever be possible to eradicate timewasters and frauds sadly

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By *f3_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

The verification filter doesn't prevent Newbies from getting meets as not everyone chooses to use it. We have decided to switch it on after being pestered by too many unverified single guys. We'll take a risk on missing out on a meet or two as we'd rather not get our inbox filled with messages from new single guys joining the site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see the benefit of that for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Block them and move on.

It's not rocket science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what Ava said

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Wasn't asking for rocket science! Ok an answer would be before a couple status profile is granted, a photo of both with username should have to be presented? Like I said we don't use this site to chat and spend hours filtering through people, simply don't have the time! Would just like to be able to come on, search couple aged... In so many miles of... Interested in.... And boom up come your choices, see one that suits what your looking for, and message them! Not have to spend hours deciding which one is a man pretending to be a couple! Don't understand the negative replies, it's a discussion to improve the site and make it better for all concerned?

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham


"You should go to clubs like chams or socials . People get to know you and you also get verifications . We tend to not trust couples who have been on this site for a long time with one mans verification . Bit obvious lol"

We have been to clubs, and are verified

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wasn't asking for rocket science! Ok an answer would be before a couple status profile is granted, a photo of both with username should have to be presented? Like I said we don't use this site to chat and spend hours filtering through people, simply don't have the time! Would just like to be able to come on, search couple aged... In so many miles of... Interested in.... And boom up come your choices, see one that suits what your looking for, and message them! Not have to spend hours deciding which one is a man pretending to be a couple! Don't understand the negative replies, it's a discussion to improve the site and make it better for all concerned? "

Then pick people (couples) who are photo verified and show pics of them both, and both together - just like our profile.

If anyone contacts you and doesn't provide this request it. Or if you message them first, request it.

Solves a lot of time wasting - anyone who is genuine will be prepared to do it.

Dont see what all the fuss is about? It hardly takes any time really - its just due diligence on your part.

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Or maybe the site owners setting something up like we suggested, eradicating the problem for good?! Why work around something that can be fixed?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"Wasn't asking for rocket science! Ok an answer would be before a couple status profile is granted, a photo of both with username should have to be presented? Like I said we don't use this site to chat and spend hours filtering through people, simply don't have the time! Would just like to be able to come on, search couple aged... In so many miles of... Interested in.... And boom up come your choices, see one that suits what your looking for, and message them! Not have to spend hours deciding which one is a man pretending to be a couple! Don't understand the negative replies, it's a discussion to improve the site and make it better for all concerned? "

You can use your mail filters to tailor which mails you get.

http://www.fabswingers.com/my/filters

The rest you have to work out for yourselves...if you want things to move fast to save you wasted time, find the people who are quite happy to confirm who they are early on, and avoid the people who don't want/ can't confirm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure how you fix it, but I fully understand your frustration

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By *f3_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Or maybe the site owners setting something up like we suggested, eradicating the problem for good?! Why work around something that can be fixed?"

It's a free site so don't expect a perfect solution anytime soon!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Or maybe the site owners setting something up like we suggested, eradicating the problem for good?! Why work around something that can be fixed?"

It cant be fixed.

Not unless everyone goes through a video verification process with admin.

Thats going to cost mega money - not even expensive paid sites are free from fakers!

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

Ok maybe fixed was a touch too far, but could certainly be improved on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok maybe fixed was a touch too far, but could certainly be improved on! "

Basically what you have suggested, is to get photo verified.

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http://www.fabswingers.com/articles/photo_verification

For females/couples: Proves you are a genuine female/couple, rather than a single guy pretending. For single guys: Proves your pics are genuine and helps you stand out from the crowd.

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But.. how come you haven't done this, since this is what you are after from others?

Also you ask of photos of both.. but again, you haven't provided this.

Not being picky but shouldn't you practise what you preach?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

how long does it take for a female just to say hi on the phone ? prob quicker than it took me to type this message.

i dont see the problem here. we all know the signs of fakers when you been on here a while and you have answered your own questions on this forum.

we all get caught out but with experiance you get wiser and know the signs

and by the way im genuine anyone whos interested lol

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham


"Ok maybe fixed was a touch too far, but could certainly be improved on!

Basically what you have suggested, is to get photo verified.

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http://www.fabswingers.com/articles/photo_verification

For females/couples: Proves you are a genuine female/couple, rather than a single guy pretending. For single guys: Proves your pics are genuine and helps you stand out from the crowd.

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But.. how come you haven't done this, since this is what you are after from others?

Also you ask of photos of both.. but again, you haven't provided this.

Not being picky but shouldn't you practise what you preach?

"

If it was mandatory to have a verified photo to get a couples profile we would do it, but it's not so kind of pointless and being 100percent honest, noone has ever questioned us not being genuine? Think maybe we will end this conversation now, was a simple discussion on ways to improve the site, but everyone seems pretty happy spending their time filtering through profiles, which is fine, just not for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok maybe fixed was a touch too far, but could certainly be improved on!

Basically what you have suggested, is to get photo verified.

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http://www.fabswingers.com/articles/photo_verification

For females/couples: Proves you are a genuine female/couple, rather than a single guy pretending. For single guys: Proves your pics are genuine and helps you stand out from the crowd.

----------------------------------------

But.. how come you haven't done this, since this is what you are after from others?

Also you ask of photos of both.. but again, you haven't provided this.

Not being picky but shouldn't you practise what you preach?

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have no need to filter trough profiles.

If we get a message and like what we see, we insist that the female part of the couples arrange everything.

When it comes down to the inital meet there are sutch things as webcams and phones to prove they are genuine ?

Anyway, if you are clever enough to ask the right questions you can sift out the single males and use the report button.

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

We can sieve them out, but don't want to have to, that was the point, time Is a precious thing, for us anyway. Will go back into our corner and carry on reading the would you f**k the one above, below and sideways threads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you got all the answers so what you moaning about

if you dont like it find another site people like you spoil the site

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham

How exactly? By having an opinion outside the click box? Very very harsh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have no need to filter trough profiles.

If we get a message and like what we see, we insist that the female part of the couples arrange everything.

When it comes down to the inital meet there are sutch things as webcams and phones to prove they are genuine ?

Anyway, if you are clever enough to ask the right questions you can sift out the single males and use the report button.

"

that's what we do its easy to find the fakes and why is it so hard for people to use a phone? get a shag phone pay as you go we never had a problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have no need to filter trough profiles.

If we get a message and like what we see, we insist that the female part of the couples arrange everything.

When it comes down to the inital meet there are sutch things as webcams and phones to prove they are genuine ?

Anyway, if you are clever enough to ask the right questions you can sift out the single males and use the report button.

that's what we do its easy to find the fakes and why is it so hard for people to use a phone? get a shag phone pay as you go we never had a problem "

Agreed. Plain common sense.

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By *estisbest22 OP   Couple
over a year ago

cheltenham


"We have no need to filter trough profiles.

If we get a message and like what we see, we insist that the female part of the couples arrange everything.

When it comes down to the inital meet there are sutch things as webcams and phones to prove they are genuine ?

Anyway, if you are clever enough to ask the right questions you can sift out the single males and use the report button.

that's what we do its easy to find the fakes and why is it so hard for people to use a phone? get a shag phone pay as you go we never had a problem Agreed. Plain common sense. "

That's not common sense, we don't want a 'shag' phone! We were after suggestions of ways to prevent single men being able to do it in the first place! And by speaking out of line about something that is a problem, no matter what anybody says we get accused of wrecking the site, seriously?! Until now weve been on here, off then on again for about 4 years minding our own business and having the odd meet now and again! have all spoke about your ways of getting AROUND the problem, which is fine, and Thankyou for your suggestions, although spotting them was never an issue, having to spot them was the problem!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Sadly on every site there is a problem of men pretending to be women/ couples.

No site owner will be able to them all out on their own, but if people report any they think are dodgy, it goes a long way to help.

Being on sites like this you are bound to get some fakes, you can't expect everyone to be vetted before you speak to them to save you some time, so the best thing to do is go with your gut instinct , and if it doesn't sound right to you, hit the report button , block and move to the next one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's not common sense, we don't want a 'shag' phone! We were after suggestions of ways to prevent single men being able to do it in the first place! And by speaking out of line about something that is a problem, no matter what anybody says we get accused of wrecking the site, seriously?! Until now weve been on here, off then on again for about 4 years minding our own business and having the odd meet now and again! have all spoke about your ways of getting AROUND the problem, which is fine, and Thankyou for your suggestions, although spotting them was never an issue, having to spot them was the problem!"

totally agree I was duped into a meet by a "couple" they sent me to the wrong address, turned out to be a single guy when I picked a few holes in his excuses, it isn't on really but I am not sure what the answer is. I reported the profile and he returned with the same profile name but a sa single guy!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have no need to filter trough profiles.

If we get a message and like what we see, we insist that the female part of the couples arrange everything.

When it comes down to the inital meet there are sutch things as webcams and phones to prove they are genuine ?

Anyway, if you are clever enough to ask the right questions you can sift out the single males and use the report button.

that's what we do its easy to find the fakes and why is it so hard for people to use a phone? get a shag phone pay as you go we never had a problem Agreed. Plain common sense.

That's not common sense, we don't want a 'shag' phone! We were after suggestions of ways to prevent single men being able to do it in the first place! And by speaking out of line about something that is a problem, no matter what anybody says we get accused of wrecking the site, seriously?! Until now weve been on here, off then on again for about 4 years minding our own business and having the odd meet now and again! have all spoke about your ways of getting AROUND the problem, which is fine, and Thankyou for your suggestions, although spotting them was never an issue, having to spot them was the problem!"

We've come across "real" couples, where the females has no idea about what her male partner is doing, and agreeing things on her "behalf".

A call between fem's is plain common sense - not only to out fakes, but also to find out who is being real and truthful in their relationships.

Whilst agreeing with your original post, that something more does need to be done, it's practically impossible. (not unless you want to start a new site - with a strict video sign up to show how real they are every so many months - encase they break up or separate and the guy then carries on alone).

Not everyone (even real genuine couples) wants to fall in line and get photo verified - some are quite happy without it - some dont show any validations whatsoever.

Admin have it there for those that do want it - its optional (for everyone) If you choose not to use it, thats your choice, but you also can use it to help you find real couples.

The sites offers you so many ways to "help" you.

You are being targeted, because people who are offering ideas and help in ways to help you, and your throwing it back into their faces and saying they aren't common sense!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"That's not common sense, we don't want a 'shag' phone! We were after suggestions of ways to prevent single men being able to do it in the first place! And by speaking out of line about something that is a problem, no matter what anybody says we get accused of wrecking the site, seriously?! Until now weve been on here, off then on again for about 4 years minding our own business and having the odd meet now and again! have all spoke about your ways of getting AROUND the problem, which is fine, and Thankyou for your suggestions, although spotting them was never an issue, having to spot them was the problem!

totally agree I was duped into a meet by a "couple" they sent me to the wrong address, turned out to be a single guy when I picked a few holes in his excuses, it isn't on really but I am not sure what the answer is. I reported the profile and he returned with the same profile name but a sa single guy!!!"

Did you not see them on cam or have a phone call with them before going to meet them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no, foolishly I did not

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"no, foolishly I did not"

Then thats where you are going wrong mate....if we were meeting couples and we wanted confirmation there was a woman actually there, it would have to be cam to show face and a call when the meet was arranged ( much like what we do now to confirm who we are arranging meets with )

The net is a wonderful place but it is also a place full of weirdos and fakes, always check the people are who they say they are and it will save you being disappointed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no, foolishly I did not

Then thats where you are going wrong mate....if we were meeting couples and we wanted confirmation there was a woman actually there, it would have to be cam to show face and a call when the meet was arranged ( much like what we do now to confirm who we are arranging meets with )

The net is a wonderful place but it is also a place full of weirdos and fakes, always check the people are who they say they are and it will save you being disappointed "

Exactly, there is no guarantee the "couple" is still a couple after a few weeks of joining.

Verifications are only as good as the day there were done.

Just like an MOT or an STI check at the GUM clinic.

There are no guarantees people are who they say they are..

cam and phone proves valuable tools to out fakes!

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