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Wales to go into lockdown from midnight tonight

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Tier 4 brought forward to start from midnight tonight

Look after yourselves guys

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By *oby le roneMan
over a year ago

Treorchy

Yep just seen it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yep just seen it "

I am glad now I didn't go to Worcester to watch the Ospreys tonight

Probably would have been shot on the heads of the valleys road on my way back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well thats was a bit unexpected to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep just seen it

I am glad now I didn't go to Worcester to watch the Ospreys tonight

Probably would have been shot on the heads of the valleys road on my way back "

Unlikely Miss P- it’s usually shut on weekends lol.

Stay safe too x

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By *exi_LexiTV/TS
over a year ago

caerphilly

Omg is it never gonna end, Xmas ain't happening this year, think I might just go sit in a corner and meditate my way through 2021, on the bright side there's still 6 hours to go

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By *mooth Operator 07Man
over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

It is, what it is unfortunately. Stay safe all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kinda thought it happen. However this is will come as a selfish comment from me but kinda wished he waited till 28th I’ve not seen my god kids since March due to working in mental health industry and was seeing them Monday ( following social distancing) to give them presents.

I understand him doing it but I also feel lockdown should of been taken more seriously first time round.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I just feel that businesses could and should have been given more notice

Drakeford has panicked following Boris' announcement earlier, when he could have made the decision himself on Wednesday

All my sympathy lies with those who are worrying about their businesses and livelihoods again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that's f**ked up a lot of people's pre Christmas plans & I don't mean just swinging.

A friend of mine runs a small business & the run up to Christmas is his busiest time of the year,so loosing three & a half days trading which he'll not get back is a big thing.

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By *ercman50Man
over a year ago

blackwood


"Yep just seen it

I am glad now I didn't go to Worcester to watch the Ospreys tonight

Probably would have been shot on the heads of the valleys road on my way back "
can’t see them beating Worcester tonight

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By *inkyandperky555Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Come on people this was coming you could see that surly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hospitals really need some breathing space, in our humble opinion this should have happened weeks ago instead of that fire break that did absolutely nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hospitals really need some breathing space, in our humble opinion this should have happened weeks ago instead of that fire break that did absolutely nothing. "

Couldn’t agree more - the governments have been so slow to act - this was always on the cards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just feel that businesses could and should have been given more notice

Drakeford has panicked following Boris' announcement earlier, when he could have made the decision himself on Wednesday

All my sympathy lies with those who are worrying about their businesses and livelihoods again"

Agreed Miss P, a bit of notice wouldn’t have gone amiss, and if he’d been bold he could have announced this earlier this week, but throughout this Drakeford has waited and followed others.

And he needs to find a decent tailor lol.

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By *ilthyfucks69Couple
over a year ago

Neverland

Definitely think this is what we need and scrolling through the updates at how many are still fools just show this.

Feel for the businesses that are now facing mass panic by some of the videos iv seen.

Mrs

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"Definitely think this is what we need and scrolling through the updates at how many are still fools just show this.

Feel for the businesses that are now facing mass panic by some of the videos iv seen.

Mrs"

Yeah, I think so too. I work with NHS workers and care home workers. Much as I feel terribly sorry for business (I have many friends whose business have been terribly affected), it’s the people on the frontline I think we should consider most. I see how much pressure is on them - it’s immense.

Many have been getting ill in recent weeks. Many are in a pretty bad way.

This has to happen.

I actually feel for Drakeford too. It’s not right to say he’s “followed”. He jumped ahead of the game with the autumn lockdown. I strongly suspected he wanted more than two weeks at the time, and still do. He’s a limited politician in many ways and gets things wrong, but he’s a fundamentally decent man, in a world of venal scumbags.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea


"Definitely think this is what we need and scrolling through the updates at how many are still fools just show this.

Feel for the businesses that are now facing mass panic by some of the videos iv seen.

Mrs"

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Lockdown 12pm to try and reduce the infection. Leading to panic by the nation for the poeple who wait until they get paid to buy their xmas items i feel sorry and for all the parents who have left items on deposit at stores or arranged to collect presents closer to xmas as a suprice for their kids.

Think the clown in cardiff needs to address the people of wales and Appogise. 7 hours notice is too short for anyone.

Does this also mean supermarketz can now only sell essential items

Big money is ok fuck the small business owner. In may elections if adolf dickford allows them ( there is talk of delaying assembly elections due to covid ) we need to show him the door

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Don t disagree that something needed to be done but with no notice. Also what about poor north and mid wales were rates are much lower. Punished because one man is on a power trip

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Definitely think this is what we need and scrolling through the updates at how many are still fools just show this.

Feel for the businesses that are now facing mass panic by some of the videos iv seen.

Mrs

Yeah, I think so too. I work with NHS workers and care home workers. Much as I feel terribly sorry for business (I have many friends whose business have been terribly affected), it’s the people on the frontline I think we should consider most. I see how much pressure is on them - it’s immense.

Many have been getting ill in recent weeks. Many are in a pretty bad way.

This has to happen.

I actually feel for Drakeford too. It’s not right to say he’s “followed”. He jumped ahead of the game with the autumn lockdown. I strongly suspected he wanted more than two weeks at the time, and still do. He’s a limited politician in many ways and gets things wrong, but he’s a fundamentally decent man, in a world of venal scumbags.

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I work in residential care

We are down to the bare bones of staff and it is only going to get worse. There is absolutely fuck all provisions in place should things get any worse for us. Agencies are bogged down already in the hospitals.

But the F.M had made a total pigs ear of it all as had BJ and co in England.

The only thing I can say is that those of you who are fortunate enough to be able to work from home and keep yourselves safe, please do so

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Yes agree. But once xmas is over dickford is expecting schools to re open. Mrs b works in education and has already had covid and passed it onto me from work .

Is it possible like you can do with mp's raise a vote of not confidence in the assembly leader and have him removed.

Firebreak was supposed to ease the rate of infection but it went up . And the only people out and about were school and college kids plus the supermarkets were open . What does that say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Definitely think this is what we need and scrolling through the updates at how many are still fools just show this.

Feel for the businesses that are now facing mass panic by some of the videos iv seen.

Mrs

Yeah, I think so too. I work with NHS workers and care home workers. Much as I feel terribly sorry for business (I have many friends whose business have been terribly affected), it’s the people on the frontline I think we should consider most. I see how much pressure is on them - it’s immense.

Many have been getting ill in recent weeks. Many are in a pretty bad way.

This has to happen.

I actually feel for Drakeford too. It’s not right to say he’s “followed”. He jumped ahead of the game with the autumn lockdown. I strongly suspected he wanted more than two weeks at the time, and still do. He’s a limited politician in many ways and gets things wrong, but he’s a fundamentally decent man, in a world of venal scumbags.

I work in residential care

We are down to the bare bones of staff and it is only going to get worse. There is absolutely fuck all provisions in place should things get any worse for us. Agencies are bogged down already in the hospitals.

But the F.M had made a total pigs ear of it all as had BJ and co in England.

The only thing I can say is that those of you who are fortunate enough to be able to work from home and keep yourselves safe, please do so

"

I work in a mental health some and touch wood we haven’t been struck with Covid but us staff are tired it’s so hard explained to our residents who don’t really understand that they can’t see their family’s but at same time the staff go home to theirs so Unfair.

Just glad they brought in the rapid testing to be done once lockdown is over so family’s can visit

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

What you think lockdown is going to end. This is a 3 week rolling lockdown law that has no end date. And has not been voted on by the assemble just dictator dickford

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By *ilthyfucks69Couple
over a year ago

Neverland


"Yes agree. But once xmas is over dickford is expecting schools to re open. Mrs b works in education and has already had covid and passed it onto me from work .

Is it possible like you can do with mp's raise a vote of not confidence in the assembly leader and have him removed.

Firebreak was supposed to ease the rate of infection but it went up . And the only people out and about were school and college kids plus the supermarkets were open . What does that say "

Completely agree. Initially they said that education was low risk but the statistics are clearly showing this is not the case. Schools around here are "distant learning until at least 11th" but i think that it will more than likely be 18th which is when he is due to review this "lockdown"

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Closing down all small and independent businesses, then everyone under the state which inturn is run by big business. Are you getting it now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Closing down all small and independent businesses, then everyone under the state which inturn is run by big business. Are you getting it now. "

Small independent corner type shops, and bakeries etc will still be open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Closing down all small and independent businesses, then everyone under the state which inturn is run by big business. Are you getting it now.

Small independent corner type shops, and bakeries etc will still be open. "
Most are control by their suppliers, I'm talking about small businesses not retail that's already tied up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s such a hard call but i’m really feeling for all those who now won’t see loved ones at Christmas and those who’s livelihoods were relying on Christmas to see them through to 2021.

Christmas keeps so many businesses going and people employed but also helped others stay positive in such a hard time ... after such a tough year that last bit of hope for them is fading.

I really hope it helps ease the pressure on the NHS and all the frontline staff who are working so hard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the government wouldn't of fucked the NHS they wouldn't be under anywhere near as much pressure.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"What you think lockdown is going to end. This is a 3 week rolling lockdown law that has no end date. And has not been voted on by the assemble just dictator dickford"

If Drakeford didn’t take this step, the likes of homes where MissP69 works would have no staff left and the burden on hospitals would have rocketed and got out of control.

If he locked down harder people would have screamed even louder about the impact on lives and the economy.

Balancing public health and the economy was always going to be a nightmare.

He tried to give people a christmas - the outlook got too bleak. There’d have been uproar if he’d not given Wales the five days or cancelled it sooner. Very tricky balancing act.

Truthfully, if you really wanted to not get in this position, and overwhelm care services and the NHS, we needed a lockdown in the autumn earlier for longer. He’d have been slaughtered though.

Too many people just haven’t “got it” and have been mixing on ridiculous ways. I know that’s happened - I’m constantly dealing with the fall out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What you think lockdown is going to end. This is a 3 week rolling lockdown law that has no end date. And has not been voted on by the assemble just dictator dickford

If Drakeford didn’t take this step, the likes of homes where MissP69 works would have no staff left and the burden on hospitals would have rocketed and got out of control.

If he locked down harder people would have screamed even louder about the impact on lives and the economy.

Balancing public health and the economy was always going to be a nightmare.

He tried to give people a christmas - the outlook got too bleak. There’d have been uproar if he’d not given Wales the five days or cancelled it sooner. Very tricky balancing act.

Truthfully, if you really wanted to not get in this position, and overwhelm care services and the NHS, we needed a lockdown in the autumn earlier for longer. He’d have been slaughtered though.

Too many people just haven’t “got it” and have been mixing on ridiculous ways. I know that’s happened - I’m constantly dealing with the fall out."

Our local hospitals the Gwent and the Grange are already in big trouble, as Missp69 has already said agency staff are becoming harder to find to fill the already shortage of staff.

He's not in his position to be popular, he should have called it early.

They opened the Grange early at a huge expense and had no new staff to staff the place so the Gwent and the Grange would have been short staffed without the virus taking its toll on staff numbers.

In our opinion he's failed in what he's paid to do.. this crisis didn't start this morning it's been rumbling along for ages..

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By *ammo2k20Man
over a year ago

Newport

Was in work today got home had a few messages saying xmas is cancelled etc, can't keep up with it all. I am a single household i am visiting my sister on xmas day is this still ok or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was in work today got home had a few messages saying xmas is cancelled etc, can't keep up with it all. I am a single household i am visiting my sister on xmas day is this still ok or not?"

If you’re not bubbled with anyone else you’re fine.

I’m in a similar position.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

mrs b showed my the pics and videos of people panic buying and trying to collect xmas presents before 12 tonight. Think dickfords announcement has had the desired effect. He has caused panic and the infection rate will prob increase with his little self fueled announcement.

Think this power trip he is on needs to come to an end. The senedd needs to reign him in and all have a say in how the assembly is run democracy not a tin pot dictatorship

Did anyone see him on tv. How to panic a nation

"This mutation is more agressive. Causing more people to be infected meaning more hospitisations".

That is not what the experts said earlier

Yes it may be more contagious but doesn't look more agressive or more deadly thank original virus in fact they think it may even be getting weeker.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

I put a question to bbc radio wales the other day asking what has happened to the money that has been given to the welsh assembly for more itu beds staff and grants for hospitality and the arts.also if as they say they were aware of the stress going to be placed on the nhs why dismantle the dragon hospitals

There appears to be no new itu beds or extra stafc and i personally know quite a few people in hospitality who are still waiting for their grants since may.also why wait till december to review and publish an amended covid plan when we went into a firebreak in november because the situation had changed. That is like saying a rugby coaches plan stays the same after loosing every game .but we could have changed it as we expected to loose

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By *r Mrs LushCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

China as no more lock downs one year on. With no vaccination. The Spanish flu only last a year with no vaccination.. The British government as wasted so much money in a lock down.. Every year we suffer a flu explosion.. This year and in the new year we are going to have massive unemployment and un able to pay back all this government's loans. X

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By *talianduoCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

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By *talianduoCouple
over a year ago

Swansea


"I put a question to bbc radio wales the other day asking what has happened to the money that has been given to the welsh assembly for more itu beds staff and grants for hospitality and the arts.also if as they say they were aware of the stress going to be placed on the nhs why dismantle the dragon hospitals

There appears to be no new itu beds or extra stafc and i personally know quite a few people in hospitality who are still waiting for their grants since may.also why wait till december to review and publish an amended covid plan when we went into a firebreak in november because the situation had changed. That is like saying a rugby coaches plan stays the same after loosing every game .but we could have changed it as we expected to loose"

Totally agree with all you have said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I put a question to bbc radio wales the other day asking what has happened to the money that has been given to the welsh assembly for more itu beds staff and grants for hospitality and the arts.also if as they say they were aware of the stress going to be placed on the nhs why dismantle the dragon hospitals

There appears to be no new itu beds or extra stafc and i personally know quite a few people in hospitality who are still waiting for their grants since may.also why wait till december to review and publish an amended covid plan when we went into a firebreak in november because the situation had changed. That is like saying a rugby coaches plan stays the same after loosing every game .but we could have changed it as we expected to loose"
This was planned over a month ago, furlough being extended until March.. we will be in lockdown until then. Drakeford will retire in March with a big fat pay out

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By *inky B and kinky DCouple
over a year ago

pwllheli

I think furlough has been extended to April, and we think Drakeford had no choice, all the blame in our eyes are all the selfish people that haven't stuck to the rules and the amounts of status last night people still looking for meets before lockdown was disgusting no wonder were in this hole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think furlough has been extended to April, and we think Drakeford had no choice, all the blame in our eyes are all the selfish people that haven't stuck to the rules and the amounts of status last night people still looking for meets before lockdown was disgusting no wonder were in this hole "
What rules exactly because shops haven't exactly adapted to anything new.. People touching stuff, no social distancing, face masks not being worn and still being allowed in places. The government along with careless people are to blame. It's a cull of the population. This has been planned ALL along. Think about it, new strain of covid means the vaccine won't work.. surprise surprise. Vaccine came from nowhere as did the new strain. We all have our opinion about this and I'm just stating mine.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

the vaccine is believed to still be effective against the new strain, so the government needs to start vaccinating people much quicker than they are at the moment its way too slow like everything else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do my Christmas on boxing day every year, usually for 9/10 of us. We scaled back this year so my uncle and nan could come. Played by the rules, all isolated for the last few weeks just to be safe, now I might as well chuck the turkey in the bin. I give up.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Think there needs to be a petition or vote in the assembly of no confidence in drakeford.

I for one did not vote for him originally can t understand how he is still in office

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By *exi_LexiTV/TS
over a year ago

caerphilly

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By *exi_LexiTV/TS
over a year ago

caerphilly


"I do my Christmas on boxing day every year, usually for 9/10 of us. We scaled back this year so my uncle and nan could come. Played by the rules, all isolated for the last few weeks just to be safe, now I might as well chuck the turkey in the bin. I give up. "

Was only thinking this myself last nite, all that extra money spent and extra food bought, just to end up in the bin

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By *nighthood75Man
over a year ago

Rhondda

Get all staff that work on the tills at Aldi and lidl to give the vaccinations, this pandemic will be over in a amtter of weeks! Lol

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By *unshine500Man
over a year ago

west wales

Not really Drakefords fault that if anyone’s chrismas is ruined, some people need to have a good hard look at themselves and should have followed easy guidelines, so these are the peoywho should shoulder the blame!

Im sure many of them back in the summer were clapping on their doorsteps for frontline staff ,

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By *inky B and kinky DCouple
over a year ago

pwllheli

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Got nothing to do with clapping for frontline staff. No one is disputing the pressures on the nhs. But what is being brought into question is the first ministers handling of the situation. I know of at least 3 dragon hospitals that have been dismantled after a cost of million. Llan darcy . The principality parc y scarlets and also the one in bridgend which has recently been rebuilt at more cost to the tax payer. Its also the way he stood there on saturday teling the reporter levet 4 would come into force at midnight with a smile on his face. The man is getting power mad. How is he even there. When the last 1st minister stood down did you vote for drakeford or was it just he was in charge of the party so took over. Think there should have been an election called.

He is solely responcible for the collapse of many businesses in wales and ruining many young childrens xmas. Have you seen the number of people on facebook desperately trying to find presents for their kids

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

merthyr


"Got nothing to do with clapping for frontline staff. No one is disputing the pressures on the nhs. But what is being brought into question is the first ministers handling of the situation. I know of at least 3 dragon hospitals that have been dismantled after a cost of million. Llan darcy . The principality parc y scarlets and also the one in bridgend which has recently been rebuilt at more cost to the tax payer. Its also the way he stood there on saturday teling the reporter levet 4 would come into force at midnight with a smile on his face. The man is getting power mad. How is he even there. When the last 1st minister stood down did you vote for drakeford or was it just he was in charge of the party so took over. Think there should have been an election called.

He is solely responcible for the collapse of many businesses in wales and ruining many young childrens xmas. Have you seen the number of people on facebook desperately trying to find presents for their kids "

Maybe the parents didnt know Christmas was happening

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

I used to work in retail and lots of people put items away for xmas to collect nearer the day if they haven t got somewhere to keep them . Bikes computers furnature etc. Also some may have been waiting for their payday so they had the money to by their presents. Or been working 6 days a week or nights and waiting for a day off.

For what ever reason they didn't do their shopping 7 hrs notice is crazy. We had accepted closing on xmas eve. Are the number of infections really going to increase that much in a few more days of normal shopping or in a few hours after the panic he caused yesterday evening .

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By *unshine500Man
over a year ago

west wales

We all have had 12months to know Christmas comes on 25th of December each year! And it being a very odd year this year i would have thought people would have gotten things all sorted waay before now

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We all have had 12months to know Christmas comes on 25th of December each year! And it being a very odd year this year i would have thought people would have gotten things all sorted waay before now

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Some people may live pay day to pay day and not be fortunate enough to be able to have bought everything ready,weeks in advance.

Please don't judge other people. That is one of the most important things all this shit should have taught every one of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We all have had 12months to know Christmas comes on 25th of December each year! And it being a very odd year this year i would have thought people would have gotten things all sorted waay before now

Some people may live pay day to pay day and not be fortunate enough to be able to have bought everything ready,weeks in advance.

Please don't judge other people. That is one of the most important things all this shit should have taught every one of us "

Well said

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Missp69

We may not agree on rugby regions but on you last comment fully agree both mrs b and i have been there and had to do that. Never judge someone till you have spent time in their shoes or have been in their situation.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea


"We all have had 12months to know Christmas comes on 25th of December each year! And it being a very odd year this year i would have thought people would have gotten things all sorted waay before now

Some people may live pay day to pay day and not be fortunate enough to be able to have bought everything ready,weeks in advance.

Please don't judge other people. That is one of the most important things all this shit should have taught every one of us "
100 percent agree .Things are hard enough as it is without people judging others ..

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

The mental health problems caused by this new lockdown with a few hours notice is going to be tragic!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone know how long this lockdown is till?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone know how long this lockdown is till?"

I believe it's a rolling three week lockdown but could be wrong.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Thinking about Johnson, not Drakeford for a minute.

I hate him - i believe he’s a venal, duplicitous scumbag (and my oldest friend, a right-wing Tory donor who knows him, says far worse)!

Even I have a small amount of sympathy for him (and, by extension, Drakeford) over this.

People are angry - I get that, as mistakes have been made.

We are where we are with the current situation. It’s not good.

However, the alternatives in late October were:

- No Christmas easing of restrictions. How many of the people now slaughtering Johnson would have accepted that? Not many, I’d wager. He’d have been slaughtered for that too - far worse, actually.

- No restrictions at all. The NHS wouldn’t cope. Yes, there were policy mistakes, but that’s nit the fault of frontline staff.

I feel terribly sorry for people separated from loved ones, or throwing away food etc. I feel most for the workers doing a 12 hour shift in a care home or on a covid ward on Christmas Day though. Maybe that’s because I get to hear the fear in their voices.

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"Thinking about Johnson, not Drakeford for a minute.

I hate him - i believe he’s a venal, duplicitous scumbag (and my oldest friend, a right-wing Tory donor who knows him, says far worse)!

Even I have a small amount of sympathy for him (and, by extension, Drakeford) over this.

People are angry - I get that, as mistakes have been made.

We are where we are with the current situation. It’s not good.

However, the alternatives in late October were:

- No Christmas easing of restrictions. How many of the people now slaughtering Johnson would have accepted that? Not many, I’d wager. He’d have been slaughtered for that too - far worse, actually.

- No restrictions at all. The NHS wouldn’t cope. Yes, there were policy mistakes, but that’s nit the fault of frontline staff.

I feel terribly sorry for people separated from loved ones, or throwing away food etc. I feel most for the workers doing a 12 hour shift in a care home or on a covid ward on Christmas Day though. Maybe that’s because I get to hear the fear in their voices.

"

There's no right answer to any if this. Ease restrictions and kill people. Lock them down and kill the economy or people in other ways.

Very tough choices.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thinking about Johnson, not Drakeford for a minute.

I hate him - i believe he’s a venal, duplicitous scumbag (and my oldest friend, a right-wing Tory donor who knows him, says far worse)!

Even I have a small amount of sympathy for him (and, by extension, Drakeford) over this.

People are angry - I get that, as mistakes have been made.

We are where we are with the current situation. It’s not good.

However, the alternatives in late October were:

- No Christmas easing of restrictions. How many of the people now slaughtering Johnson would have accepted that? Not many, I’d wager. He’d have been slaughtered for that too - far worse, actually.

- No restrictions at all. The NHS wouldn’t cope. Yes, there were policy mistakes, but that’s nit the fault of frontline staff.

I feel terribly sorry for people separated from loved ones, or throwing away food etc. I feel most for the workers doing a 12 hour shift in a care home or on a covid ward on Christmas Day though. Maybe that’s because I get to hear the fear in their voices.

There's no right answer to any if this. Ease restrictions and kill people. Lock them down and kill the economy or people in other ways.

Very tough choices. "

Very much so

It's all a mess and no one has the right answers

The vaccination process is far too slow moving though

As part of the first group on the priority list, we have still heard absolutely nothing, let alone received invitations to go and have the vaccine

I understand the logistics of taking it into to care homes for the residents but the staff are more than capable of travelling to hospital sites to be vaccinated

It needs to be sped up massively as things are getting very shit very quickly and there is no back up plan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thinking about Johnson, not Drakeford for a minute.

I hate him - i believe he’s a venal, duplicitous scumbag (and my oldest friend, a right-wing Tory donor who knows him, says far worse)!

Even I have a small amount of sympathy for him (and, by extension, Drakeford) over this.

People are angry - I get that, as mistakes have been made.

We are where we are with the current situation. It’s not good.

However, the alternatives in late October were:

- No Christmas easing of restrictions. How many of the people now slaughtering Johnson would have accepted that? Not many, I’d wager. He’d have been slaughtered for that too - far worse, actually.

- No restrictions at all. The NHS wouldn’t cope. Yes, there were policy mistakes, but that’s nit the fault of frontline staff.

I feel terribly sorry for people separated from loved ones, or throwing away food etc. I feel most for the workers doing a 12 hour shift in a care home or on a covid ward on Christmas Day though. Maybe that’s because I get to hear the fear in their voices.

There's no right answer to any if this. Ease restrictions and kill people. Lock them down and kill the economy or people in other ways.

Very tough choices.

Very much so

It's all a mess and no one has the right answers

The vaccination process is far too slow moving though

As part of the first group on the priority list, we have still heard absolutely nothing, let alone received invitations to go and have the vaccine

I understand the logistics of taking it into to care homes for the residents but the staff are more than capable of travelling to hospital sites to be vaccinated

It needs to be sped up massively as things are getting very shit very quickly and there is no back up plan"

Unfortunately it looks like another case of over-promising and under-delivering. As has been the story all the way through those in power will act too late.

Stay safe everyone x

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By *ancardiff7Man
over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

100% agree on vaccinations. Can't come soon enough for me or, more importantly, the vulnerable and key workers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thinking about Johnson, not Drakeford for a minute.

I hate him - i believe he’s a venal, duplicitous scumbag (and my oldest friend, a right-wing Tory donor who knows him, says far worse)!

Even I have a small amount of sympathy for him (and, by extension, Drakeford) over this.

People are angry - I get that, as mistakes have been made.

We are where we are with the current situation. It’s not good.

However, the alternatives in late October were:

- No Christmas easing of restrictions. How many of the people now slaughtering Johnson would have accepted that? Not many, I’d wager. He’d have been slaughtered for that too - far worse, actually.

- No restrictions at all. The NHS wouldn’t cope. Yes, there were policy mistakes, but that’s nit the fault of frontline staff.

I feel terribly sorry for people separated from loved ones, or throwing away food etc. I feel most for the workers doing a 12 hour shift in a care home or on a covid ward on Christmas Day though. Maybe that’s because I get to hear the fear in their voices.

There's no right answer to any if this. Ease restrictions and kill people. Lock them down and kill the economy or people in other ways.

Very tough choices.

Very much so

It's all a mess and no one has the right answers

The vaccination process is far too slow moving though

As part of the first group on the priority list, we have still heard absolutely nothing, let alone received invitations to go and have the vaccine

I understand the logistics of taking it into to care homes for the residents but the staff are more than capable of travelling to hospital sites to be vaccinated

It needs to be sped up massively as things are getting very shit very quickly and there is no back up plan

Unfortunately it looks like another case of over-promising and under-delivering. As has been the story all the way through those in power will act too late.

Stay safe everyone x"

Promising care home staff and residents to be the first to receive the vaccine was nothing more than virtue signalling by the government trying to claw back some sort of respect after the slaughtering they took over the way they handled the situation in care homes back at the start of the pandemic. We all knew it was a load of bollocks

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

merthyr

I have heard from a good source, nhs vaccination is rolling out ,admin staff are taking it as front line staff cannot get off the wards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone know how long this lockdown is till?

I believe it's a rolling three week lockdown but could be wrong."

I think you are right but I also think we are going to be in Tier 4 for at least 6-8 weeks and that is a conservative guess.The way things are going I wouldnt be surprised if we could be looking at much longer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone know how long this lockdown is till?

I believe it's a rolling three week lockdown but could be wrong.

I think you are right but I also think we are going to be in Tier 4 for at least 6-8 weeks and that is a conservative guess.The way things are going I wouldnt be surprised if we could be looking at much longer "

Seems reasonable, wouldnt be surprised if we dont see much easing of restrictions until easter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've heard from a source in the wag that this is planned until March unfortunately.

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By *ammo2k20Man
over a year ago

Newport

Can anyone help , can i still get gift cards anywhere or they non essential just asking? Sorry if a bit off topic

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By *iffidusMan
over a year ago

lydney

Newport Tesco Cardiff rd is selling everything. I just bought an extension lead. I saw people leaving with toys clothes etc. Saw one bloke walk out with a microwave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Newport Tesco Cardiff rd is selling everything. I just bought an extension lead. I saw people leaving with toys clothes etc. Saw one bloke walk out with a microwave "

Makes a mockery of ‘essential shopping’ and plays into the hands of the conspiracy theorists!

Dickford should have sorted all the associated legislation like this before his knee jerk panic announcement Saturday!

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By *ammo2k20Man
over a year ago

Newport


"Newport Tesco Cardiff rd is selling everything. I just bought an extension lead. I saw people leaving with toys clothes etc. Saw one bloke walk out with a microwave "

Cheers

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