FabSwingers.com forum: Can we still work during lockdown in Wales?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can still work if you can't work from home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes you can

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I thought so but the bloke in the motorbike shop said its only if essential work and a builder friend of mine said he can't work unless it's a job which needs to be done urgently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem with the rules is that there has been no clear determination on what counts as acceptable.

The Assembly, in my opinion, should have detailed precisely what is and is not deemed to be permitted work. I think they dodged that bullet because of accusations of being draconian.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose it all depends where you work. Just seen on the news that supermarkets are not allowed to sell no essential items. Clothes, shoes, bedding or electrical items but you can buy alcohol. It’s an absolute joke. To some people them items will be essential

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suppose it all depends where you work. Just seen on the news that supermarkets are not allowed to sell no essential items. Clothes, shoes, bedding or electrical items but you can buy alcohol. It’s an absolute joke. To some people them items will be essential "

His reasoning being that they have forced clothes shops etc to close so in the interest of fair play, supermarkets should not be able to sell those items either. So I can see his logic, not that I agree with it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So much as a like a pub I think if they stayed closed it would of prevented the virus from spreading a lot more than it has and maybe we wouldn't have to lockdown again

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

So if your kettle breaks you’re not allowed to replace it - believe me, keeping myself caffeinated is essential for everyone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s an absolute joke coming out with something like he has, before that announcement he had done a pretty good job considering, but people still need these items. Starting to get a bit silly now.

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Port talbot

Doesn't apply to home deliveries though as we are still supplying everything and alcohol after 8

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if your kettle breaks you’re not allowed to replace it - believe me, keeping myself caffeinated is essential for everyone!"

You will have to order one online. Absolute joke!! But you can buy alcohol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hubby works on railways in Bristol, he’s allowed to go to work as he can’t do it from home x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if your kettle breaks you’re not allowed to replace it - believe me, keeping myself caffeinated is essential for everyone!"

Vaughan Gethings example of a hairdryer made me lol

Alright for a man to say

Stupid cunt

If my hairdryer packs in I'll have to go to work with wet hair then til I can order one online

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

So if your kettle breaks you’re not allowed to replace it - believe me, keeping myself caffeinated is essential for everyone!

Vaughan Gethings example of a hairdryer made me lol

Alright for a man to say

Stupid cunt

If my hairdryer packs in I'll have to go to work with wet hair then til I can order one online

Did he say that?! Omg, only a man would say something so stupid

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I never buy anything online and I won't be starting now. I can't be messed with that.

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By *reenleavesCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

Professional football games are still going ahead because he said they can't do that from home

On that basis, any work that you can't do from home is fine to continue (unless it's in a business that has to close).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then he goes on TV and tells the public to buy these things online.

The left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing.

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

Clear as mud!

Where do they think the online products come from, distribution centres, delivery to delivery drivers what's the difference to a shop being open.

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By *igNick1381Man
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

No, they still expect you to work, then straight home after to your comfy little prison cell, I mean home

Then you better get out and Xmas shop to stimulate the economy

Then you'd better praise the government for 'saving xmas'

Then go back in lockdown in January or February because of the third wave caused by your family Xmas, you awful people you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Professional football games are still going ahead because he said they can't do that from home

On that basis, any work that you can't do from home is fine to continue (unless it's in a business that has to close). "

Gotcha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I guess it's only fair that supermarkets can't sell clothes or electrical items otherwise places like sports direct and curries should be allowed to stay open and it wouldn't be like a lockdown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason? "

Just seen his status, a friend of mine passed to it today, but I must be a stupid prick to believe he passed then I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just thank your lucky stars that I am not an elected politician.

Because trust me more than half of you wouldn't like my rules

It's a fucked up situation. I am fortunate to be able to work (even though I fundamentally disagree with it) throughout. I travel from Wales to one of Boris' Tier 3 environments 5 x per week and back and will continue to do so until Christmas. And no, I don't work for or on behalf of the NHS.

And yet I am well. The very few people I interact with, are well. Why? Because we have unlimited funds for virus protection as a professional institution than the NHS do. That's not a criticism, that's just fact. If I get ill, I can sue when I can prove that I have followed the almost ridiculous procedure for sterilisation of my working environment. It's all done on camera. Miss a spot? I risk losing my job to somebody who didn't miss that spot . The valiant NHS cannot. And that's wrong.

Controversial I know, and open to plenty of discussion is.. Society discipline. How many company managers, staff, private people are already testing the loopholes.

You can argue Socialism/Capitalism etc etc.

We should feed our people whom by our own social rules are at risk.

We should put roofs over their heads that are guaranteed until their legal rights to challenge are void.

The fact is, this Covid nonsense has levelled the old fashioned 2 party politics.

It's now about whom does the right things the best. Problem is, this is a 2020 problem that did not exist in 2019 for the UK.

Note my paraphrasing etc.

We are all in this until 9/11.

Save your energy until then, nothing will change for Wales until then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason?

Just seen his status, a friend of mine passed to it today, but I must be a stupid prick to believe he passed then I guess "

Sorry to hear that.

I must be a right stupid prick as well for believing that my cousin is in hospital on a ventilator as we speak after being diagnosed with having covid 19 and not only him but a lot more relitives of mine who it's thought caught it at a wedding and most don't show any symptoms but they have been told to isolate.

However I would like to hear his opinion about it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just thank your lucky stars that I am not an elected politician.

Because trust me more than half of you wouldn't like my rules

Controversial I know, and open to plenty of discussion is.. Society discipline. How many company managers, staff, private people are already testing the loopholes.

You can argue Socialism/Capitalism etc etc.

We should feed our people whom by our own social rules are at risk.

We should put roofs over their heads that are guaranteed until their legal rights to challenge are void.

The fact is, this Covid nonsense has levelled the old fashioned 2 party politics.

It's now about whom does the right things the best. Problem is, this is a 2020 problem that did not exist in 2019 for the UK.

Note my paraphrasing etc.

We are all in this until 9/11.

Save your energy until then, nothing will change for Wales until then.

Spread the love and support

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason?

Just seen his status, a friend of mine passed to it today, but I must be a stupid prick to believe he passed then I guess

Sorry to hear that.

However I would like to hear his opinion about it? "

i hope they recover quickly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason?

Just seen his status, a friend of mine passed to it today, but I must be a stupid prick to believe he passed then I guess

Sorry to hear that.

However I would like to hear his opinion about it?

i hope they recover quickly

xx"

Thanks xX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought that we can still work and travel for work but today someone just told me that it's not allowed after tonight.

I don't know to make of it now

Yeah.... that'll never happen, just like they wont ban alcohol in the uk (they are winding you up)

£££££££

Maybe. I see that you wrote in your status that you don't believe in covid or the lockdown. Do you think it's all made up for some reason?

Just seen his status, a friend of mine passed to it today, but I must be a stupid prick to believe he passed then I guess

Sorry to hear that.

However I would like to hear his opinion about it? "

I knew someone that died from it but didnt die from it if you get me. Anyway ask the clique for info as I'm sure I and the topic is buzzing round here by now, or you could ask Naughtyhotwifeforfun as we've sensibly messaged one and other about the situation. Sorry if I offended anyone but we are all entitled to our personal opinions

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin

"No, they still expect you to work, then straight home after to your comfy little prison cell, I mean home

Then you better get out and Xmas shop to stimulate the economy

Then you'd better praise the government for 'saving xmas'

Then go back in lockdown in January or February because of the third wave caused by your family Xmas, you awful people you"

Yep.

I do wonder when we will get a grip on this & actually get to hear & focus on reality.

Despite everything that we have been told only 5 critical care beds were occupied by Covid patients as of Thursday 22nd at UCH Cardiff.

Spaces in ICU were low.... but by no means just as a result of Covid.

So we are shutting down again to protect

the NHS from being overwhelmed but not just from Covid...?

I understand the fear that a spike in serious Covid cases might yet put greater pressure on services. And there are over 30 non ICU Covid cases at UCH. However there is already huge pressure on services, due to the enormous catch up now required because of the last lockdown, for any number of non covid illnesses.

Sooner or later we have to learn to live (& cope) with it. There are STILL some crazy restrictions in place -I haven't been able to go back to my previous job because of restrictions on distancing which is still 2m (in Wales). I am not permitted to restart until it falls to 1m -yet hairdressers etc have been open. Figure that one out.

The virus is not going to vanish any time soon. We cant stop it, only manage the spread to a limited degree.

We should be focusing on protecting the elderly & the vulnerable far more actively. There has been no blanket notice across the uk for the elderly & vulnerable to self isolate as there was the last time -how crazy is that?

The sensible ones will be doing so & many nursing homes have sensibly never lifted restrictions.

The rest of us should be vigilant & aware of the true risks & dangers. For example, anyone under 40 is at (virtually) no risk at all (assuming you have no underlying health conditions).

There is no risk to the average school child /uni age student who has no underlying health condition ...just keep it on campus!!

Maybe we'll have a vaccine soon. Or maybe not. If we do, how long will it take to produce & vaccinate 70million people when we've not even been able to get remotely close to testing that number of people since the start of the pandemic.

If this cycle of shutdown continues there will be no economy left to protect. Anyone not in public sector jobs are facing massive challenges. Those in public sector jobs are protected (in the short term) until the government are forced to cut spending to pay for everything. Let's pray inflation stays low & therefore interest rates too. Government borrowing now at a 60 YEAR HIGH relative to GDP. Thats worse than it's been my entire lifetime. It'll take a while to pay for it all....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, they still expect you to work, then straight home after to your comfy little prison cell, I mean home

Then you better get out and Xmas shop to stimulate the economy

Then you'd better praise the government for 'saving xmas'

Then go back in lockdown in January or February because of the third wave caused by your family Xmas, you awful people you

Yep.

I do wonder when we will get a grip on this & actually get to hear & focus on reality.

Despite everything that we have been told only 5 critical care beds were occupied by Covid patients as of Thursday 22nd at UCH Cardiff.

Spaces in ICU were low.... but by no means just as a result of Covid.

So we are shutting down again to protect

the NHS from being overwhelmed but not just from Covid...?

The virus is not going to vanish any time soon. We cant stop it, only manage the spread to a limited degree.

The sensible ones will be doing so & many nursing homes have sensibly never lifted restrictions.

The rest of us should be vigilant & aware of the true risks & dangers. For example, anyone under 40 is at (virtually) no risk at all (assuming you have no underlying health conditions).

There is no risk to the average school child /uni age student who has no underlying health condition ...just keep it on campus!!

This argument makes total sense when each point is taken as observation in total observation.

But like any new situation things are open to interpretation. And we all know that when there is political interest, you can make 69 look like a 96 you might have been interested in.

Covid specific deaths or not, are up. Massively. Now I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to have that phone + when I'm told to get here As Soon As Possible. Because believe me there will be a HGV getting a parking ticket in that area along with a good few insurance claims in the parking lot, because I will get there and yeah.

I don't particularly care if you believe in Covid-19. But you damned well better believe in the impact it's effects are having. People are dying, directly or not because of it.

And if I get that call, I will arrive with triple 9 escort because trust me, no regulations will do justice.

This stuff is real. Protect the people you care about.

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By *ymguy1966Man
over a year ago

Port Talbot

I'm still working

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just seen a video of a guy going mad in a supermarket and tearing covers off the none essential items.

We are only a couple of days into this lockdown in Wales and this is happening already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep working! Just think of all the tax rises to come to us to pay for all this mess !

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By *ercman50Man
over a year ago

blackwood

"Just seen a video of a guy going mad in a supermarket and tearing covers off the none essential items.

We are only a couple of days into this lockdown in Wales and this is happening already. "
. This video on Facebook another idiot looking fir likes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep working! Just think of all the tax rises to come to us to pay for all this mess !"

You got it buddy! keep working while the government kill the elderly and vulnerable off to save money on pensions/disability allowances ect because the world is fucked (especially Britain) We're unable to pay credit cards and borrowed money back because there is no money/jobs and are over populated. Something had to give as we cant have world wars no more so this had to happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give it a couple of days it will be like the films the purge lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Give it a couple of days it will be like the films the purge lol "

Lol dont do it bud that's what they want is DISTRACTION! Avoid the Madeline McCann, black lives matter and boris beats covid stories. We will never find out the real truth or what's really going on so.... just bring piece and love I say

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone got Drakefords personal address?? Have a copy of Orwell's 1984 I would like to send him in case he runs out of lockdown ideas...

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By *hiny-SinnersCouple
over a year ago

Vale of Glamorgan

Ok here's the thing. I am not an epidemiologist so not qualified to comment on the current scientific thinking. Therefore I am not qualified to comment on the sense or otherwise of the government strategy. But one thing I am pretty confident of having done a reasonable amount of research is that certain sections of society need to grow the fuck up and take personal responsibility for their actions! By this I mean those fools who were desperate for a pint no matter the risk, or happily enjoying themselves in crowded places ignoring all semblance of social distancing or common sense. If everyone had acted responsibly we wouldn't be in another lock down. So before pointing the finger at politicians in Wales - and I am no lover of them believe me - look to those who you know who have acted like idiots. Even in Sweden they only did well because people were responsible enough to think of the good of all society by being sensible with their social distancing behaviour. Is the current approach in Wales the right one, I don't know, but I do know that this mess doesn't solely lie at the foot of government? Good grief if the wartime generation could see all the whining and selfishness that is going on now they woukd be horrified. All that said, I think Boris and his cronies are a disaster. We are handling it a little better in Wales. In the long term we will have to move to a strategy of protecting the vulnerable until a vaccine is found or herd immunity is possible and can be achieved without sacrificing any more lives than we would under lockdown. But to conclude, we can manage just fine with regards to hair dryers and the like, online is your friend, and I have no patience with those fucking idiots who choose to wine about everything whilst acting irresponsibly themselves, as I so often witnessed when out pre this lock down.

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By *inky B and kinky DCouple
over a year ago

pwllheli

"Ok here's the thing. I am not an epidemiologist so not qualified to comment on the current scientific thinking. Therefore I am not qualified to comment on the sense or otherwise of the government strategy. But one thing I am pretty confident of having done a reasonable amount of research is that certain sections of society need to grow the fuck up and take personal responsibility for their actions! By this I mean those fools who were desperate for a pint no matter the risk, or happily enjoying themselves in crowded places ignoring all semblance of social distancing or common sense. If everyone had acted responsibly we wouldn't be in another lock down. So before pointing the finger at politicians in Wales - and I am no lover of them believe me - look to those who you know who have acted like idiots. Even in Sweden they only did well because people were responsible enough to think of the good of all society by being sensible with their social distancing behaviour. Is the current approach in Wales the right one, I don't know, but I do know that this mess doesn't solely lie at the foot of government? Good grief if the wartime generation could see all the whining and selfishness that is going on now they woukd be horrified. All that said, I think Boris and his cronies are a disaster. We are handling it a little better in Wales. In the long term we will have to move to a strategy of protecting the vulnerable until a vaccine is found or herd immunity is possible and can be achieved without sacrificing any more lives than we would under lockdown. But to conclude, we can manage just fine with regards to hair dryers and the like, online is your friend, and I have no patience with those fucking idiots who choose to wine about everything whilst acting irresponsibly themselves, as I so often witnessed when out pre this lock down. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a decorator currently working in a vacant house, so personally I'm ok. The rule on tradesmen is that you can't work in an occupied house, but can if its emergency like water/gas leak

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