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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x" December 25 | |||
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"I suspect it will be 12 weeks, just based on that's how long the very vulnerable people have been told to isolate for. " That was our thinking too x | |||
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"I suspect it will be 12 weeks, just based on that's how long the very vulnerable people have been told to isolate for. That was our thinking too x" May | |||
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"12 weeks from when we locked down ,any longer country go broke and people will not be able to cope" people are broke now | |||
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"Bumped into (2 meters apart) medic friend this morning and she said end of august at the earliest but probably end of year is more likely but, only if they are sure that you cant catch it twice, otherwise a vaccine is needed before life can be normal again. " Rubbish, country would be bankrupt and people would not stay in that long, besides which it would not achieve anything | |||
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"I reckon the pubs will be allowed to open around 2022-ish. " if that long be hardly a pub left to open | |||
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"Bumped into (2 meters apart) medic friend this morning and she said end of august at the earliest but probably end of year is more likely but, only if they are sure that you cant catch it twice, otherwise a vaccine is needed before life can be normal again. " Just because your friend is a medic it doesn't add any credence to her prediction. People and businesses can't possibly be locked down that length of time. | |||
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"In theory we should stay locked until we have 14 days in a row with 0 new cases. It could happen in the end of June or the beginning of July if people follows the rules and/or if we get stricter rules soon." 14 days and no new cases could be 2 year's away,just think of it like the aids virus it's still with us. | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x" As theyre expecting death rates to hit 1000 per day by early next week, i can see it being 6 months. Id go with 2 months as is now, then stricter measures for 3 or 4 months afterwards | |||
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"August/September then 2021 for anything to return to normal " I agree with that, if we all survive the wipe off, it will be next year to get things back to normal, 2020 is finished now and it's about survival, sad times and scary | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x As theyre expecting death rates to hit 1000 per day by early next week, i can see it being 6 months. Id go with 2 months as is now, then stricter measures for 3 or 4 months afterwards" 2 months as it is now then 4 months of stricter measures? What would they be? Can't leave the 1 room let alone your house? Count me out, if that's what it comes to then I'd rather catch it. Fuck sitting in my house staring at the walls for 6 months. That's no life at all. | |||
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"Thanks everyone for the replies. A tough one to gauge judging by everyone's responses. But presumably the government don't even know, yet!" Daily figures are changing with huge numbers .. point China has already slackened on lock Down .... point Mr bj has no idea as does the WHO how long is a piece of String My prediction is late may early June .. and that could be just to lighten up | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x As theyre expecting death rates to hit 1000 per day by early next week, i can see it being 6 months. Id go with 2 months as is now, then stricter measures for 3 or 4 months afterwards" They will hit 1000 this week, we are in the infected stage of all the panic shoppers who went crazy and touched everything and everyone in the shops before lockdown happened... | |||
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"From the article I read featuring a statement from the medical advisor I'd go for lockdown ending in late May/early June (I.e 12 weeks) and social distancing lasting until October (6 months)" Id go with this to | |||
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"The longer this goes on the more people will suffer for year's to come. We have to ask are we going to let millions suffer for year's if so keep the lockdown, but remember the cure could do more harm than the virus. " Agree, I do think three months of lockdown/restricted movement is the maximum realistically. Beyond that we could see widespread disobedience and unrest, especially as the weather gets warmer. | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x As theyre expecting death rates to hit 1000 per day by early next week, i can see it being 6 months. Id go with 2 months as is now, then stricter measures for 3 or 4 months afterwards" Absolutely . Expect 6 months minimum lockdown with certain restrictions being lifted then imposed again. The lockdown measures have to become stricter when we start losing the 5-10 thousand per week. 18 months social distancing will be a minimum | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x" After the riots ... | |||
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"I suspect it will be 12 weeks, just based on that's how long the very vulnerable people have been told to isolate for. That was our thinking too x" Exactly - so we know it's a minimum of 12 weeks and more likely 25 weeks or so | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. " 2 years minimum | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. " I agree - even when lockdown is lifted you can’t go back to hugging and kissing! It will cause a spike and here we go again. | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months." I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised. | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum " Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? | |||
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"After 12 weeks there will be riots on the streets and no end of thefts and burglarys will escalate rapidly...civil unrest to follow" Why would 12 weeks trigger that? | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? " Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x" It will be extended for another 3 weeks on the 13th then they will start to ‘loosen’ the restrictions after that . | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive " You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? " I didn't say that all! | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised." Thank you That 12 to 18 atleast I should have said as that is still currently the earliest a vaccine can be released. Not until a vaccine is made can we be out of this I believe. | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? I didn't say that all!" Fair enough, when do you think the lockdown will end? | |||
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"Read today on BBC a potential drug treatment for coronavirus have started human trials. Thoughts on this?" May as people are having other issues from the staying in and lack of funds , Can't keep people in for life !!!! | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? I didn't say that all! Fair enough, when do you think the lockdown will end? " I think this lockdown will for sure be for 12 weeks . We know that as 1.4 million 'vulnerable ' people were told that last week . After that, sporadic lockdowns as obviously the virus will spike every time restrictions are partially lifted. What I said was that by all accounts this virus isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years ( and that's vaccine dependent) so expect these sporadic lockdowns over that period and social distancing to become a way of life throughout that period | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? " I don't think the country will be on lockdown for two years but there's going to be a new normal, things will be in flux for a while but this a long term problem. If we're lucky there might be some respite over the summer. | |||
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"No way will they get the majority of people to stay lock in their homes for six months. Already lots of self employed people close to going broke. The economy would be completely devastated if it goes on any where near that length of time. I for one wouldn’t stay locked up for six month’s especially through the Summer " I said pretty much this elsewhere today and got called a troll. Lol | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes" Cash reserves after 2 world wars? We just finished paying for ww1 in 2015 | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes Cash reserves after 2 world wars? We just finished paying for ww1 in 2015" do your research mate we have cash reserves | |||
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"I reckon we will have another 3 weeks added on the end of this 3 weeks at the very least. Hopefully they will have pulled their finger out of their arse with the testing and immune people can get back out and working. Social distancing for a good while yet though although if we're all out and about not sure how we can. " You do realise the current test only shows if you have it at the time of the test not if you had it and recovered, when that test is perfected it will be a game changer. | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes Cash reserves after 2 world wars? We just finished paying for ww1 in 2015 do your research mate we have cash reserves" I know we have cash reserves but it still isn't an endless pot of money that can pay everyone's wages indefinitely. Make no mistake the country is going to be paying for this for decades | |||
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"I reckon we will have another 3 weeks added on the end of this 3 weeks at the very least. Hopefully they will have pulled their finger out of their arse with the testing and immune people can get back out and working. Social distancing for a good while yet though although if we're all out and about not sure how we can. You do realise the current test only shows if you have it at the time of the test not if you had it and recovered, when that test is perfected it will be a game changer. " Yep thats the one Im waiting for | |||
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"Spanish Flu was a global pandemic and lasted for 3 years, what stopped it eventually was it ran out of victims. CV19 is somewhat different, they still don't understand why some people can display no symptoms and others will require weeks in an ICU on a ventilator." Isnt it mostly due to age and risk factors? Theres also the impact of viral load. Theres also the impact of other factors they're looking into such as race | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x As theyre expecting death rates to hit 1000 per day by early next week, i can see it being 6 months. Id go with 2 months as is now, then stricter measures for 3 or 4 months afterwards 2 months as it is now then 4 months of stricter measures? What would they be? Can't leave the 1 room let alone your house? Count me out, if that's what it comes to then I'd rather catch it. Fuck sitting in my house staring at the walls for 6 months. That's no life at all." I can see it being total lockdown for none food/nhs/999 workers. Im only a welder but have to go work, and theyll put stop to that. Ban excercise outings etc | |||
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"It probably won't go back to the way things were until there is either a vaccine or we develop herd immunity. Social distancing is still a thing in china, probably will be here too, I can see the wearing of face masks becoming normalised. I think we're in this for the long haul, six months minimum, likely over a year. 2 years minimum Dont be so fucking ridiculous ? 2 years ?? Every virologist, scientist etc saying this isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years and that's only with the possibility of a widespread vaccine. No scientist in the world has yet come up with any exit strategy but obviously you have! Let's hear it then instead of becoming abusive You honestly think we will be on a lockdown for 2 years? I don't think the country will be on lockdown for two years but there's going to be a new normal, things will be in flux for a while but this a long term problem. If we're lucky there might be some respite over the summer. You did actually aay 2 years minimum, even though you now say you didnt ! Bit of a contradiction i feel ! I wasnt being abusive earlier, just saying what i thought, & yes, im no expert, just like everyone else on here !!!! " | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes" I would have to disagree with that the majority of the country has no idea what it’s like to be locked up for extended periods. Lots of people with mental health issues could not cope with six months of solitary confinement | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes I would have to disagree with that the majority of the country has no idea what it’s like to be locked up for extended periods. Lots of people with mental health issues could not cope with six months of solitary confinement " I (K) struggle with mental health problems. I fear in six months I'll either not be here or sectioned. Theres no positive news, no nothing. It's all quite scary | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised." Exit strategy would be a vaccine? | |||
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"2 more weeks then people will start getting back to normal, forget the government people will just start retuning bordom, money, and knowing we not making any difference people will still die. Only problem the government now have powers over us (police state) 360 pages of new law's so we are all fucked. " It makes a big difference. Lockdown means the NHS has to try and care for 10,000 patients at any one point rather than 100,000. | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised. Thank you That 12 to 18 atleast I should have said as that is still currently the earliest a vaccine can be released. Not until a vaccine is made can we be out of this I believe." Absolutely - a lot of deluded people on here I'm afraid | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised. Exit strategy would be a vaccine? What do you think? " | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes" This is not a world war. Young people are being kept indoors, denied education and a chance to start their adult lives - all for something that barely gives them a sniffle. Many of them will rebel when they realise they face decades of austerity to give old people a few more years in a care home. This is the harsh reality. | |||
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"September. In line with return to schools, colleges and universities. " You won’t keep the general population locked in till September that’s crazy. | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes This is not a world war. Young people are being kept indoors, denied education and a chance to start their adult lives - all for something that barely gives them a sniffle. Many of them will rebel when they realise they face decades of austerity to give old people a few more years in a care home. This is the harsh reality. " Where's all the spare cash people are saying we have,just had 10 year's trying to balance the books. If we had all this extra cash we wouldn't have gone through 10 years of tighting our belts. Must be momentum members who believe money grows on trees. | |||
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"I reckon we will have another 3 weeks added on the end of this 3 weeks at the very least. Hopefully they will have pulled their finger out of their arse with the testing and immune people can get back out and working. Social distancing for a good while yet though although if we're all out and about not sure how we can. You do realise the current test only shows if you have it at the time of the test not if you had it and recovered, when that test is perfected it will be a game changer. Yep thats the one Im waiting for " What on earth makes you think that they will either use this or tell us it exists and works they are not even testing the NHS staff with the test they now have ! | |||
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"People saying the country will be bankrupt after 12 weeks are living in fairyland after 2 world wars this country has cash reserves that will last a lot longer than 12 weeks And for those saying there will be social unrest or riots that is complete nonsense I believe the majority of the country are behind this no matter how long it takes This is not a world war. Young people are being kept indoors, denied education and a chance to start their adult lives - all for something that barely gives them a sniffle. Many of them will rebel when they realise they face decades of austerity to give old people a few more years in a care home. This is the harsh reality. Where's all the spare cash people are saying we have,just had 10 year's trying to balance the books. If we had all this extra cash we wouldn't have gone through 10 years of tighting our belts. Must be momentum members who believe money grows on trees." Uk is 2 Trillion in debt ,pays 60 Billion a year interest on that ,Check in office for National Statistics | |||
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" the man is a megalomaniac buffoon who dies what he wants as there is no one to hold him to account and now he has the 'emergency powers' just watch this space what comes next - A curfew I bet, no one on the streets from 6pm to 6am ? " Not much point in a curfew - the streets are deserted from early evening onwards. The worry is that he will introduce harder daytime restrictions - needing a permit to leave the house or risk arrest. He will think that is strong leadership - it is, of course, to distract people from his incompetence in tackling the pandemic. | |||
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"I appreciate that nobody knows, but what's your guess? I also appreciate that this might the millionth time this has been posted. We just rarely use the forum. Tia x It will be extended for another 3 weeks on the 13th then they will start to ‘loosen’ the restrictions after that . " Yep something along these lines | |||
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"Bumped into (2 meters apart) medic friend this morning and she said end of august at the earliest but probably end of year is more likely but, only if they are sure that you cant catch it twice, otherwise a vaccine is needed before life can be normal again. Rubbish, country would be bankrupt and people would not stay in that long, besides which it would not achieve anything" I think I would rather trust the opinions of my friend (an nhs surgeon) than a horse whisperer tbh | |||
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"Bumped into (2 meters apart) medic friend this morning and she said end of august at the earliest but probably end of year is more likely but, only if they are sure that you cant catch it twice, otherwise a vaccine is needed before life can be normal again. Rubbish, country would be bankrupt and people would not stay in that long, besides which it would not achieve anything I think I would rather trust the opinions of my friend (an nhs surgeon) than a horse whisperer tbh" Exactly - well said! | |||
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"I reckon we will have another 3 weeks added on the end of this 3 weeks at the very least. Hopefully they will have pulled their finger out of their arse with the testing and immune people can get back out and working. Social distancing for a good while yet though although if we're all out and about not sure how we can. You do realise the current test only shows if you have it at the time of the test not if you had it and recovered, when that test is perfected it will be a game changer. " But at the time of the test you could be in the early stages of infection and test negative as you won't have developed anti bodies Nothing about this is simple and there is no simple solution In another two weeks we will know more about the disease, more about testing, more about death rates and more importantly if the current measure is effective enough to contain the spread and even if the virus starts to weaken it's grip as seasonal flu does with warmer weather. In two weeks time we MIGHT have an idea of what we can do and when we can do it. It's all educated guesses by people that aren't educated in this virus Scary | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality." Jesus... cheer us all up why dont'cha.. | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. It’s not the plague think your exaggeration some what " I told Polly she was exaggerating too. I'm eating my words now | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. It’s not the plague think your exaggeration some what " It's what is happening in italy and spain right now. We had all the information from china months before the first case came to Europe. If it had been called something like "pulmonary plague" it would have been treated seriously from day one and none of the shit going down now would have been necessary. It is a plague. It is an infection that has spread to every corner of the globe in just a couple of months. The deaths are climbing towards a million world wide already, and it is just in the earliest stages most places. There is potential for wiping out anything between 1% and 20% of the global population. And every time someone says "it's not that serious", "you're exaggerating it", "the numbers might be less", "it only gets those who are already ill", the final death toll is going to be higher than it needed to be. What do you want from a plague? Black splodges all over the bodies, blood leaking from eyes? Is it not enough for you that people are unable to breathe and drowning in the sludge that is accumulating in their lungs? To paraphrase the words of some wise people - it's a fucking plague, just fucking stay at home. | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. It’s not the plague think your exaggeration some what It's what is happening in italy and spain right now. We had all the information from china months before the first case came to Europe. If it had been called something like "pulmonary plague" it would have been treated seriously from day one and none of the shit going down now would have been necessary. It is a plague. It is an infection that has spread to every corner of the globe in just a couple of months. The deaths are climbing towards a million world wide already, and it is just in the earliest stages most places. There is potential for wiping out anything between 1% and 20% of the global population. And every time someone says "it's not that serious", "you're exaggerating it", "the numbers might be less", "it only gets those who are already ill", the final death toll is going to be higher than it needed to be. What do you want from a plague? Black splodges all over the bodies, blood leaking from eyes? Is it not enough for you that people are unable to breathe and drowning in the sludge that is accumulating in their lungs? To paraphrase the words of some wise people - it's a fucking plague, just fucking stay at home. " Deaths approaching a million already eh ?? | |||
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"So now it's going to kill 20% of us ? Strange how the who say around 1 to 2 % , although it could be more in densely populated areas I fear . Hysteria isnt going to help folks" The worldwide experience is that with advanced hospital care the deaths directly from covid-19 can be kept down to about 4% of those infected. However when a very large percentage of the population are infected, the number of deaths overwhelms health care provision and something like 10% die. Then there are also the knock on effects of people dying from other conditions that are normally treatable because they cannot get treatment - car crashes, heart attacks, broken arms, mother and child dying during childbirth - all the things you take for granted because you normally have access to healthcare. Then the systems for disposing of dead bodies will be overwhelmed. People will die in houses and not be discovered for weeks or months. Other diseases - maybe your genuine to goodness actual plague - will spread. More people will die. If the system falls apart too much then food distribution fails, people starve or fight. More death. So no, 20% global death is not unreasonable. It's unlikely. But get more likely every single time some damn fool says that there's no problem. | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. It’s not the plague think your exaggeration some what It's what is happening in italy and spain right now. We had all the information from china months before the first case came to Europe. If it had been called something like "pulmonary plague" it would have been treated seriously from day one and none of the shit going down now would have been necessary. It is a plague. It is an infection that has spread to every corner of the globe in just a couple of months. The deaths are climbing towards a million world wide already, and it is just in the earliest stages most places. There is potential for wiping out anything between 1% and 20% of the global population. And every time someone says "it's not that serious", "you're exaggerating it", "the numbers might be less", "it only gets those who are already ill", the final death toll is going to be higher than it needed to be. What do you want from a plague? Black splodges all over the bodies, blood leaking from eyes? Is it not enough for you that people are unable to breathe and drowning in the sludge that is accumulating in their lungs? To paraphrase the words of some wise people - it's a fucking plague, just fucking stay at home. " It's not a plague with a 2% mortality rate. You'll be suggesting mass graves and painting red crosses on doors next! | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. Jesus... cheer us all up why dont'cha.. " Because there is nothing to be cheerful about is the reason ! Too many twats who are still thinking this is not going to affect them and so are doing what the fuck they like ! Politicians who think slowly and act slower still leading people who don't listen to advice or obey the lockdown ! | |||
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"When everybody is seeing body bags being carried from houses up and down their streets, there will be no need for lockdown regulations because people will be too shit scared of going out. The difficulty at the end will be persuading people to return to normality. It’s not the plague think your exaggeration some what It's what is happening in italy and spain right now. We had all the information from china months before the first case came to Europe. If it had been called something like "pulmonary plague" it would have been treated seriously from day one and none of the shit going down now would have been necessary. It is a plague. It is an infection that has spread to every corner of the globe in just a couple of months. The deaths are climbing towards a million world wide already, and it is just in the earliest stages most places. There is potential for wiping out anything between 1% and 20% of the global population. And every time someone says "it's not that serious", "you're exaggerating it", "the numbers might be less", "it only gets those who are already ill", the final death toll is going to be higher than it needed to be. What do you want from a plague? Black splodges all over the bodies, blood leaking from eyes? Is it not enough for you that people are unable to breathe and drowning in the sludge that is accumulating in their lungs? To paraphrase the words of some wise people - it's a fucking plague, just fucking stay at home. It's not a plague with a 2% mortality rate. You'll be suggesting mass graves and painting red crosses on doors next! " No. I'm just trying to put across the message that this is very serious indeed, it's the biggest health crisis that has hit the uk in the last 100 years. I do hope that it doesn't go to mass graves, but it has already in some countries Please stay safe everyone. Some of you are my friends. Some of you exasperate me. You are all my fab family. Polly xx | |||
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"Somwhen did it climb towards a million death worldwide ?" Not heard that anywhere either. | |||
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"Somwhen did it climb towards a million death worldwide ?" Millionth infection maybe | |||
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"I haven't a clue but will rely on fab experts! No expecting much change before the fall.." I think this is the most likely scenario, a few weeks won't be enough. | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised. Exit strategy would be a vaccine?" That is the ONLY strategy. The WHO said TEST TEST TEST but also isolation or quarantine. If you test test test before the spread gets far you can then quickly isolate people that have it and thus detain and control the spread eventually and contain the virus to those people. It would be awful for the people that got it but it would now stop it from spreading to other people. So an example is say london You contain it by testing lets say and successfully you curb it before it got out of london to anywhere else. This is what the WHO were saying all along. The stupid government first wanted to go with herd immunity and now they realised that was pathetic and are going with this sudden isolation that was not even their wanted choice but because the stupid foolish people that didnt get it when out to the beaches and parks (some may have had to due to health issues I respect that) but everyone there didnt need to be there and thus they had to go with isolation. The point however is that its not late, we are unable to curb the spread because IT IS spreading. Now what they will do is open the isolation, people will go out, more get ill, ok isolate again and then repeat and rinse. The fact is they didnt order PPEs in time, nor did they have any preparations in place even though this contingency of a pandemic has been tested many times incase it occurred and so we are now in this situation. The USA sadly is in a greater mess. The ONLY strategy now to exit from all this is a vaccine and this is what ive said for weeks if not months now. Some may jump on and say well the antibody testing will be the saving grace and I say will it Frak! The test firstly is only to say if you had it not if you could get it again or will....this is a NOVEL virus, this means we have absolutely no clue what it will do and how it will do it. The ONLY solution is stay the FRAK indoors and stop being part of the problem - isolate and protect yourself and thus you protect others. Its really that simple. | |||
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"I've said since late jan probably early feb to be in lockdown. I believe we will have sporadic lockdowns to severe lockdowns for the next 12 to 18months. I think that you are exactly right although I suspect a lot longer than 12-18 months! No one has yet come up with an exit strategy so this thing ain't going anywhere over the next few years unless an exit strategy can be realistically devised. Thank you That 12 to 18 atleast I should have said as that is still currently the earliest a vaccine can be released. Not until a vaccine is made can we be out of this I believe. Absolutely - a lot of deluded people on here I'm afraid" and not just on this thread sadly | |||
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"People keep going about about death rates and such. That’s what the media are feeding you. In real numbers this Virus is low in numbers! Sadly 50,000 passed away from November. But 100,000 people have passed away from age related problems a day. I’m not trying to dumb down the numbers, far from it. A very good friend passed away last night, that’s our first taste of someone passing away from this! The first time it was not just a number but a dam good mate! 18 million die a year from Cardiovascular 10 million die a year from Cancer I’m not trying to be a dick, but looking at the bigger picture, this is small in numbers " Finally someone keeping things in perspective | |||
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"People keep going about about death rates and such. That’s what the media are feeding you. In real numbers this Virus is low in numbers! Sadly 50,000 passed away from November. But 100,000 people have passed away from age related problems a day. I’m not trying to dumb down the numbers, far from it. A very good friend passed away last night, that’s our first taste of someone passing away from this! The first time it was not just a number but a dam good mate! 18 million die a year from Cardiovascular 10 million die a year from Cancer I’m not trying to be a dick, but looking at the bigger picture, this is small in numbers " Accept you are being ‘a dick’ if you think that this is comparable. Just think about what you’ve written. Are the health systems in dozens of countries over run with cancer or cardiovascular related illness? Are health workers putting their lives at risk due to the lack of protection they have from cancer patients? Are people dropping dead of heart decease within days of the first symptom? Has the economy tanked because of these conditions? Will the numbers world wide dwarf those above within the next 6 months? Stop reading shit posts on Facebook or whatever else you use for your shit statistics and think about what is happening. | |||
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"In the meantime here's a woman in a tower block fighting official lies and misinformation from official people who are lying and trying to pretend someone's died who hasn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL6GNKy5fk" Well lookee here, the original video has already been taken down. The above one is another copy so see it quick before it's censored too. | |||
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"People keep going about about death rates and such. That’s what the media are feeding you. In real numbers this Virus is low in numbers! Sadly 50,000 passed away from November. But 100,000 people have passed away from age related problems a day. I’m not trying to dumb down the numbers, far from it. A very good friend passed away last night, that’s our first taste of someone passing away from this! The first time it was not just a number but a dam good mate! 18 million die a year from Cardiovascular 10 million die a year from Cancer I’m not trying to be a dick, but looking at the bigger picture, this is small in numbers Finally someone keeping things in perspective " Yep, one small problem though, cardiovascular and cancer arent contagious | |||
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"In the meantime here's a woman in a tower block fighting official lies and misinformation from official people who are lying and trying to pretend someone's died who hasn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL6GNKy5fk" Hopefully this will stay up. I did notice one of the guys on bio suits taking off his face mask halfway through too. Not adding up at all. | |||
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"Come on people of fab. Lets not be totally gullible. The woman filming this video is a hysterical nutjob who isnt listening to a word that is being said" Lmao people really believe this crap tin foil hat time | |||
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"People keep going about about death rates and such. That’s what the media are feeding you. In real numbers this Virus is low in numbers! Sadly 50,000 passed away from November. But 100,000 people have passed away from age related problems a day. I’m not trying to dumb down the numbers, far from it. A very good friend passed away last night, that’s our first taste of someone passing away from this! The first time it was not just a number but a dam good mate! 18 million die a year from Cardiovascular 10 million die a year from Cancer I’m not trying to be a dick, but looking at the bigger picture, this is small in numbers Accept you are being ‘a dick’ if you think that this is comparable. Just think about what you’ve written. Are the health systems in dozens of countries over run with cancer or cardiovascular related illness? Are health workers putting their lives at risk due to the lack of protection they have from cancer patients? Are people dropping dead of heart decease within days of the first symptom? Has the economy tanked because of these conditions? Will the numbers world wide dwarf those above within the next 6 months? Stop reading shit posts on Facebook or whatever else you use for your shit statistics and think about what is happening. " Exactly, cancer and cardiovascular disease is not air born and highly contagious, that's what makes covid so much more dangerous | |||
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"If (rather than when) the government decide to relax these restriction you mean ! They would be more than happy to keep these measures in place for months or longer, telling us all that the danger is not yet past. they cant even get their acts together on testing people for the virus, and decide that the anti-body test is going to be licenced so they are not going to even think about a timescale for this to end. there is no viable opposition in parliament, the judiciary and lawyers are all part of the Boris clan and will be earing their money whatever happens; so who is going to argue that the need for restrictions is over ! he didn't listen to his medical advisors telling him to start restrictions, he sure as hell isn't going to listen when they say remove them is he ? the man is a megalomaniac buffoon who dies what he wants as there is no one to hold him to account and now he has the 'emergency powers' just watch this space what comes next - A curfew I bet, no one on the streets from 6pm to 6am ? " Are the party’s/MP’s on furlough or full pay? | |||
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