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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

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By *ildatheart6969Couple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great. "

First they came for the nightclubs

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

I (male) am still currently working on site as we speak. We refused to go on site yesterday as we were unclear on what the government had actually said and we felt unsafe to work. The initial comment from the site manager was 'business as usual' in his typical sarky way. His response to us staying home was instantly 'you won't be paid.'

Today we are working and they have said time and time again to stay 2 metres apart and have tried to plan works accordingly. This hasn't happened as I've literally just witnessed the site manager standing in very close proximity with 3 operatives.

This morning the site manager and the safety advisor of the site car shared, despite both of them yesterday saying to avoid car sharing.

They've limited the number of people allowed to be in the canteen at any one time to 12 people and just 2 people in the toilets at any one time. It's lucky that 50% of the operatives on site havent turned in.

The 2 metre rule cannot work on most, if not all construction sites.

Now, I accept that key workers and critical jobs needs to carry on and sometimes that 2 metre rule will be broken e.g NHS and I will just say a massive thank you and congratulations to everybody working in critical jobs for keeping everybody and the country going. But none of our sites around the country are critical or essential and with all the bad press that Boris has got over it since yesterday the only reason I can think of him continuing to let them operate is because he does not want to be held responsible for that decision.

If he argues it's to keep the economy going, kinda fair enough but we're working at 20% productivity, if that. And now isn't really the time to think about money and 'client relations' as an email from my CEO suggested, now is the time to think about the future of humanity and, literally, peoples lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At my work we work far apart any way and we could carry on working all the way through this without any problem. But today our bosses have closed the company down saying that it's a bad example if we are out at work and they are thinking of the nhs and not profit so company shut down and they are working on it probably been a 3 month shut down that's there guess, they are hoping other construction company follow suit and forget profit.

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry


"At my work we work far apart any way and we could carry on working all the way through this without any problem. But today our bosses have closed the company down saying that it's a bad example if we are out at work and they are thinking of the nhs and not profit so company shut down and they are working on it probably been a 3 month shut down that's there guess, they are hoping other construction company follow suit and forget profit."

Well done to your company. Unfortunately I work for 1 of the big 6 so mine always puts profit before people, as another email from them today said. One of the ops managers on the phone today said 'it's whoever (government or us) blinks first'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going back in tomorrow. Not happy with it but until there is some clarity on the payment help I don't have a choice. Most of suppliers are closed so it won't last long. But as normal we get the shitty end of the stick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a fucking disgrace that builders have to carry on and parliament is effectively taking an early holiday to socal distance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been and tarmacked some road repairs today to make sure safe before we closed and struggled to get hold of tarmac so work isn't going to carry on. 3 other local reasonable size company's have shut down today

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"At my work we work far apart any way and we could carry on working all the way through this without any problem. But today our bosses have closed the company down saying that it's a bad example if we are out at work and they are thinking of the nhs and not profit so company shut down and they are working on it probably been a 3 month shut down that's there guess, they are hoping other construction company follow suit and forget profit.

Well done to your company. Unfortunately I work for 1 of the big 6 so mine always puts profit before people, as another email from them today said. One of the ops managers on the phone today said 'it's whoever (government or us) blinks first'"

Exactly the same for me. They're avoiding the big fines unless government close it down. Skeleton staff but the quantities remain the same and forcing people to do ridiculous amounts of overtime, 7 days a week.

Furious tbh. I'd happily go on unpaid leave till this is over.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

The main reason construction has not had an enforced shut down yet is due to the vast majority of workers being self employed with no chance of being furloughed. The govt is desperately trying to work out a way to balance the books and pay their wages for them but is just realising the depth of the issue of having a "mobile and flexible workforce"

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Plus the big house builders give large donations to Tory funds ....

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By *manda_EdinTVTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

I can’t believe companies are being allowed to stay open who aren’t practicing social distancing . Hope all you guys are safe . X

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry


"I can’t believe companies are being allowed to stay open who aren’t practicing social distancing . Hope all you guys are safe . X "

Myself and the lads in my company are doing our best with social distancing, we think it's ridiculous that sites from a health point of view are still operational.

However a lot of people on site are also not helping the whole situation. I was on the throne earlier and heard a couple of people complaining that they can't sit on the same table as eachother in the canteen and that they're not allowed to car share. They then said that's fucking ridiculous. It's like, mate, we fucking fought all of yesterday to get those rules in place, heck, we tried to fight to shut the site down for healths sake yet all you can do is complain. Morons being morons.

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By *ildatheart6969Couple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

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By *ildatheart6969Couple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

We all need to start shaming builders who go to work

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"We all need to start shaming builders who go to work"

No we don’t

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry


"We all need to start shaming builders who go to work"

The trouble is with this is that they simply will not get paid if they go to work. And there is nothing in place for them if they choose to stay at home.

A lot of people in this country are able to work from home and earn a full wage, get sent home by the government and earn 80% or self isolate/be signed off sick and receive at least SSP. We were told the other day if we choose to go home we would not get paid anything. One guy from our work chose to isolate himself for the sake of his family and work colleagues and the greater good, he got told by our labour manager that because nobody in his family are showing symptoms that he should be in work and if he wasnt it would go down as an unauthorised absence and could possibly face disciplinary action. I kid you not, this is what we are up against.

I've always said that whilst we aren't the hardest worked people in the country by far (I'd give that title to medical staff personally), we are one of the most shit on.

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry


"We all need to start shaming builders who go to work

The trouble is with this is that they simply will not get paid if they go to work. And there is nothing in place for them if they choose to stay at home.

A lot of people in this country are able to work from home and earn a full wage, get sent home by the government and earn 80% or self isolate/be signed off sick and receive at least SSP. We were told the other day if we choose to go home we would not get paid anything. One guy from our work chose to isolate himself for the sake of his family and work colleagues and the greater good, he got told by our labour manager that because nobody in his family are showing symptoms that he should be in work and if he wasnt it would go down as an unauthorised absence and could possibly face disciplinary action. I kid you not, this is what we are up against.

I've always said that whilst we aren't the hardest worked people in the country by far (I'd give that title to medical staff personally), we are one of the most shit on."

Correction for top line *they won't get paid if they don't go to work*

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Most of these large companies will be eager to get whatever financial help, such as grants, that they can whilst exposing their staff, and thus families and associates - plus anyone they encounter whilst travelling - to the possibilities of infection and death, on top of the risks associated with the work. They show socialism in reverse, the people pay and shoulder the risks, others paying for infrastructure, safety nets, health services, whilst they continue to bank bonuses. No risk capitalism.

Unless the infrastructures are urgently required for hospitals or care staff, they should be mothballed, with staff paid by the companies for being constrained at home - the company takes the hit, not the staff or the public.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great. "

Coz us builders are expendable scum!

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By *ildatheart6969Couple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

Coz us builders are expendable scum!"

Do you think that's fair on the NHS and the vulnerable?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

Coz us builders are expendable scum!

Do you think that's fair on the NHS and the vulnerable?"

I don't get your comparison.

No one is praising builders for carrying on working.

Not comparing what we do to NHS.

You seem to want to start an argument for no reason.

I have been in building trade for nearly 40 year's and trust me people think we are scum coronavirus or not.

NHS are essential workers.

Mrs Jones extension isn't yet we are expected to work.

Why?

We are not healing anyone or providing an essential service.

Other than emergency repairs to essential buildings and infrastructure .

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By *ildatheart6969Couple
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

Coz us builders are expendable scum!

Do you think that's fair on the NHS and the vulnerable?

I don't get your comparison.

No one is praising builders for carrying on working.

Not comparing what we do to NHS.

You seem to want to start an argument for no reason.

I have been in building trade for nearly 40 year's and trust me people think we are scum coronavirus or not.

NHS are essential workers.

Mrs Jones extension isn't yet we are expected to work.

Why?

We are not healing anyone or providing an essential service.

Other than emergency repairs to essential buildings and infrastructure ."

Not arguing this is a discussion board

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By *heShyBiCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Coventry


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

Coz us builders are expendable scum!

Do you think that's fair on the NHS and the vulnerable?"

It's not fair and this is why a decision needs to be made. It is not the workers at fault. In this time, the shepherd needs to herd his sheep and give them a definitive answer. Please refer to my previous point.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Strange how building sites can carry on. I was shop fitter been on lots of sites no way will the two meter apart rule work not possible. And the toilets and wash facilities on sites are never great.

Coz us builders are expendable scum!

Do you think that's fair on the NHS and the vulnerable?"

What are the vulnerable doing walking around a construction building site ?

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East

Workers should defy their managers and cease work. One's life is more important than working as a slave.

Of course, it's easier said than done when money pressure is real.

Stay safe every one!

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By *urreyfun38Couple
over a year ago

croydon

The photos coming out of these sites with the staff canteens being full and no social distancing in place are breaking the law.

If the clown of a Mayor that we have in London really wanted to close these site all he has to do is send an inspector to these sites and then with draw their licence to operate.

Its about money

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