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"So if you regularly go shopping you are a judgemental hypocrite. If you fill up so you don't have to go shopping you are a hoarder/panic buyer. If you do neither you die of starvation. Oh what a happy world we live in." If they dont condone people meeting another human being out of the necessity of their mental health but go shopping yes they are judgmental hypocrites. | |||
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"So many people casting judgement on here. If you do not practice what you preach then you have no right to judge. If you're going to supermarkets you're not isolating. It's a public place and one which has the most foot traffic than anywhere else in the country now. When you understand the ways in which you can be infected by the virus then hopefully people will show more understanding, empathy and compassion. The virus spreads most in forms of micro droplets. Which come from breathing, coughing and sneezing. Every breath and infected person makes expels the virus from their body. On to which is surfaces that have varying rates in which the virus survives outside of the body. It lingers in the air for up to 3hrs. So in an infected person goes shopping then you're surrounded with potential means of catching it. Everything you touch and everywhere you breathe you're at risk. But going shopping people find acceptable they aren't judging people who go shopping. So when it comes to someone meeting someone privately in a private residence people lose their shit and out comes the judgement. But consider the risks who is taking more risks and who is putting more people at risk. Then we have the nhs workers who work directly with victims of the virus. Who go shopping... see where this is going? They are all potential carriers of the virus. To make more sense would be to have shuttle buses for nhs workers dealing with the victims. Saves spreading the virus through public transport and fuel stations by refilling their cars. The government to provide food for the nhs workers so they don't attend large foot traffic areas like supermarkets. Compensate the nhs workers who are in immediate risk of the virus, but also support the public by isolating the possible carriers even though they are doing their job they put others at risk by going to supermarkets. In severe deadly outbreaks it would be the health providers directly quarantined with the patients. They don't get to leave the quarantine whether or not they're infected. So begs the question why if it's so serious that nhs workers directly involved with victims of the virus is this not the case? Why I dare say is compassion for the nhs workers and the need to be with family. People considering the mental health well being of all of this. Not everyone has a support network. Some people are just trying to balance their mental health and seeing as 1 on 1 meets in a private residence has less chance of spread than the above can people stop making judgements on them which is also detrimental to their mental health. Mental health plays a huge roll in physical health. High levels of cortisol has an effect on the immune system. Increasing the odds of being severely affected by not just covid19 but other infections. If you don't leave your house and completely isolated yourself alone and manage to stay sane through it all I think you'll be just fine you'd have battled through and deserve appraisal. But we haven't got through it yet Loneliness and isolation is what breaks people down. Many of you get to isolate with another or other individuals, you still see loved ones and friends. Many of you have only just began living isolated life. Days and weeks soon people will understand what it's like being alone and will need mental health support from where ever they can get it. I'm quite sure nhs workers don't want suicide rates to go up, self harming rates to go up so if people need to meet don't judge them because you'll find yourself being a hypocrite when you leave your house to get what you need from the shops and what ever else makes you leave your house. It's easy to make judgement but look in the mirror first before you do, reflect on what you're actually doing first. I'm not putting health workers down but I am saying is judgement of people here is appalling and yet they judge without seeing the whole picture. Narrowminded that focuses on 1 thing and that's the fact they don't care about anyone else but themselves. They don't see people shopping as a risk because they do it. It's not risky to them in their eyes if others are doing it. Since they aren't meeting people to support their mental health other people who do are wrong. Time will tell how many people will change their _iews. Cabin fever sets in, the little voice in your head gets louder because you've ran out of distractions and you're left with thoughts. There's a reason inmates punishment of isolation rectifies behaviour. Humans need social contact. Think before you cast judgement" I think it's more about avoiding what's unnecessary and obviously getting food is necessary as would be getting medication,hence why those businesses are still open even when a country is on lockdown. Meeting up randomly to fulfill a desire is not necessary at this point in time and that's where people take issue with it. We are lucky in this day and age that we can communicate with others online and therefore nobody needs to be completely isolated from the outside world. Those healthcare,police, firefighters are putting their lives on the line to look after us,it can't really be compared x | |||
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"So many people casting judgement on here. If you do not practice what you preach then you have no right to judge. If you're going to supermarkets you're not isolating. It's a public place and one which has the most foot traffic than anywhere else in the country now. When you understand the ways in which you can be infected by the virus then hopefully people will show more understanding, empathy and compassion. The virus spreads most in forms of micro droplets. Which come from breathing, coughing and sneezing. Every breath and infected person makes expels the virus from their body. On to which is surfaces that have varying rates in which the virus survives outside of the body. It lingers in the air for up to 3hrs. So in an infected person goes shopping then you're surrounded with potential means of catching it. Everything you touch and everywhere you breathe you're at risk. But going shopping people find acceptable they aren't judging people who go shopping. So when it comes to someone meeting someone privately in a private residence people lose their shit and out comes the judgement. But consider the risks who is taking more risks and who is putting more people at risk. Then we have the nhs workers who work directly with victims of the virus. Who go shopping... see where this is going? They are all potential carriers of the virus. To make more sense would be to have shuttle buses for nhs workers dealing with the victims. Saves spreading the virus through public transport and fuel stations by refilling their cars. The government to provide food for the nhs workers so they don't attend large foot traffic areas like supermarkets. Compensate the nhs workers who are in immediate risk of the virus, but also support the public by isolating the possible carriers even though they are doing their job they put others at risk by going to supermarkets. In severe deadly outbreaks it would be the health providers directly quarantined with the patients. They don't get to leave the quarantine whether or not they're infected. So begs the question why if it's so serious that nhs workers directly involved with victims of the virus is this not the case? Why I dare say is compassion for the nhs workers and the need to be with family. People considering the mental health well being of all of this. Not everyone has a support network. Some people are just trying to balance their mental health and seeing as 1 on 1 meets in a private residence has less chance of spread than the above can people stop making judgements on them which is also detrimental to their mental health. Mental health plays a huge roll in physical health. High levels of cortisol has an effect on the immune system. Increasing the odds of being severely affected by not just covid19 but other infections. If you don't leave your house and completely isolated yourself alone and manage to stay sane through it all I think you'll be just fine you'd have battled through and deserve appraisal. But we haven't got through it yet Loneliness and isolation is what breaks people down. Many of you get to isolate with another or other individuals, you still see loved ones and friends. Many of you have only just began living isolated life. Days and weeks soon people will understand what it's like being alone and will need mental health support from where ever they can get it. I'm quite sure nhs workers don't want suicide rates to go up, self harming rates to go up so if people need to meet don't judge them because you'll find yourself being a hypocrite when you leave your house to get what you need from the shops and what ever else makes you leave your house. It's easy to make judgement but look in the mirror first before you do, reflect on what you're actually doing first. I'm not putting health workers down but I am saying is judgement of people here is appalling and yet they judge without seeing the whole picture. Narrowminded that focuses on 1 thing and that's the fact they don't care about anyone else but themselves. They don't see people shopping as a risk because they do it. It's not risky to them in their eyes if others are doing it. Since they aren't meeting people to support their mental health other people who do are wrong. Time will tell how many people will change their _iews. Cabin fever sets in, the little voice in your head gets louder because you've ran out of distractions and you're left with thoughts. There's a reason inmates punishment of isolation rectifies behaviour. Humans need social contact. Think before you cast judgement I think it's more about avoiding what's unnecessary and obviously getting food is necessary as would be getting medication,hence why those businesses are still open even when a country is on lockdown. Meeting up randomly to fulfill a desire is not necessary at this point in time and that's where people take issue with it. We are lucky in this day and age that we can communicate with others online and therefore nobody needs to be completely isolated from the outside world. Those healthcare,police, firefighters are putting their lives on the line to look after us,it can't really be compared x" This. 
And when you go shopping you can keep your distance. Yesterday I made sure no-one came within 2 metres of me and anyone using the same aisle, I moved away.
I parked in the far corner of the car park and I went home straight afterwards.
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. " I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x " So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? | |||
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"So many people casting judgement on here. If you do not practice what you preach then you have no right to judge. If you're going to supermarkets you're not isolating. It's a public place and one which has the most foot traffic than anywhere else in the country now. When you understand the ways in which you can be infected by the virus then hopefully people will show more understanding, empathy and compassion. The virus spreads most in forms of micro droplets. Which come from breathing, coughing and sneezing. Every breath and infected person makes expels the virus from their body. On to which is surfaces that have varying rates in which the virus survives outside of the body. It lingers in the air for up to 3hrs. So in an infected person goes shopping then you're surrounded with potential means of catching it. Everything you touch and everywhere you breathe you're at risk. But going shopping people find acceptable they aren't judging people who go shopping. So when it comes to someone meeting someone privately in a private residence people lose their shit and out comes the judgement. But consider the risks who is taking more risks and who is putting more people at risk. Then we have the nhs workers who work directly with victims of the virus. Who go shopping... see where this is going? They are all potential carriers of the virus. To make more sense would be to have shuttle buses for nhs workers dealing with the victims. Saves spreading the virus through public transport and fuel stations by refilling their cars. The government to provide food for the nhs workers so they don't attend large foot traffic areas like supermarkets. Compensate the nhs workers who are in immediate risk of the virus, but also support the public by isolating the possible carriers even though they are doing their job they put others at risk by going to supermarkets. In severe deadly outbreaks it would be the health providers directly quarantined with the patients. They don't get to leave the quarantine whether or not they're infected. So begs the question why if it's so serious that nhs workers directly involved with victims of the virus is this not the case? Why I dare say is compassion for the nhs workers and the need to be with family. People considering the mental health well being of all of this. Not everyone has a support network. Some people are just trying to balance their mental health and seeing as 1 on 1 meets in a private residence has less chance of spread than the above can people stop making judgements on them which is also detrimental to their mental health. Mental health plays a huge roll in physical health. High levels of cortisol has an effect on the immune system. Increasing the odds of being severely affected by not just covid19 but other infections. If you don't leave your house and completely isolated yourself alone and manage to stay sane through it all I think you'll be just fine you'd have battled through and deserve appraisal. But we haven't got through it yet Loneliness and isolation is what breaks people down. Many of you get to isolate with another or other individuals, you still see loved ones and friends. Many of you have only just began living isolated life. Days and weeks soon people will understand what it's like being alone and will need mental health support from where ever they can get it. I'm quite sure nhs workers don't want suicide rates to go up, self harming rates to go up so if people need to meet don't judge them because you'll find yourself being a hypocrite when you leave your house to get what you need from the shops and what ever else makes you leave your house. It's easy to make judgement but look in the mirror first before you do, reflect on what you're actually doing first. I'm not putting health workers down but I am saying is judgement of people here is appalling and yet they judge without seeing the whole picture. Narrowminded that focuses on 1 thing and that's the fact they don't care about anyone else but themselves. They don't see people shopping as a risk because they do it. It's not risky to them in their eyes if others are doing it. Since they aren't meeting people to support their mental health other people who do are wrong. Time will tell how many people will change their _iews. Cabin fever sets in, the little voice in your head gets louder because you've ran out of distractions and you're left with thoughts. There's a reason inmates punishment of isolation rectifies behaviour. Humans need social contact. Think before you cast judgement I think it's more about avoiding what's unnecessary and obviously getting food is necessary as would be getting medication,hence why those businesses are still open even when a country is on lockdown. Meeting up randomly to fulfill a desire is not necessary at this point in time and that's where people take issue with it. We are lucky in this day and age that we can communicate with others online and therefore nobody needs to be completely isolated from the outside world. Those healthcare,police, firefighters are putting their lives on the line to look after us,it can't really be compared x This.
And when you go shopping you can keep your distance. Yesterday I made sure no-one came within 2 metres of me and anyone using the same aisle, I moved away.
I parked in the far corner of the car park and I went home straight afterwards.
"And yet you picked up items in which others have touched and breathed on. You've touched items and surfaces and breathed the same air as other people. Again not understanding the nature of how contamination occurs. Distance of 2m is based on the distance a normal breath travels. A cough and sneeze that's 8m. So potential contamination is 100s of people and yet 2 people meeting in a private residence is lower than that of going shopping. | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. " No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions... | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? " no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? " Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? " If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. " Or FaceTime  | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. " You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds... | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions..."
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime "There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime
There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now "Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds..." And how will the vulnerable people get their shopping. Judging without thinking. | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds... And how will the vulnerable people get their shopping. Judging without thinking." Better find an alternative than spreading a virus that’s killed thousands, especially to vulnerable people. Acting without thinking... | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds..." you obviously know better than the proper advice I have been given from on high then...  | |||
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"What I don't get is loads on these forums saying stay safe take precautions etc which is totally correct yet look at their profile and says bareback sex only , the mind boggles." I've brought this up on another thread. People pick and choose and cast judgement. They don't see that stds as important as this yet it has consequences the same. If people can't practice what they preach they have no right to judge. | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds... you obviously know better than the proper advice I have been given from on high then... "I do that’s right | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime
There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now
Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing"It is not dehumanising. I've been through it before, with less digital social options than we have now. It is a huge advantage that we have and you are greatly underestimating and undervaluing it. The 2 things that digital can not fully help with are distance from loved ones. It is not "people" that we crave interaction from but specific people that we are familiar with. Not being around family, a mother or father away from their children etc. The other being physical interaction, this however is partially connected to the above, but also is less about physically interacting with people but just a desire for sexual instinct. One that is quite easily suppressed with a little effort. Hell lots of men on here have been sexually isolated for much longer than what is currently being asked during this global situation. You have an issue with people judging you, but you have no problem dismissing and undervaluing an extremely important lifeline that has saved so many lives. A very important lifeline that you clearly do not understand. | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds... And how will the vulnerable people get their shopping. Judging without thinking. Better find an alternative than spreading a virus that’s killed thousands, especially to vulnerable people. Acting without thinking..." If you know of a better way please share. Volunteers are doing the same thing people getting paid to do. Like home delivery services which are not available due to the fact everyone is accessing the service. What do you expect people to do? If you want to judge and not support the vulnerable then I suggest you find another solution to rectify it. Because people are doing they best they can, and judged for it. | |||
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"What I don't get is loads on these forums saying stay safe take precautions etc which is totally correct yet look at their profile and says bareback sex only , the mind boggles. I've brought this up on another thread. People pick and choose and cast judgement. They don't see that stds as important as this yet it has consequences the same. If people can't practice what they preach they have no right to judge." I think things just get confusing when in reality it's all pretty simple. If you go to the supermarket etc you avoid touching your face and wash your hands to take precautions,yes germs are everywhere but by taking those precautions you are minimising risk. The whole point of social distancing and isolation is to lessen the spread as much as possible, your friends may be carriers with no symptoms and so people think they are safe when in contact with others but are passing a virus to the vulnerable without knowing it. I don't think it's about making judgements as such it's more just the fact that when all advice is clear and the reasons why,that people still take 'unnecessary' risks. The NHS can't cope at the best of times, advice is there for everyone's benefit People just need to listen to it..... | |||
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There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now
Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing
It is not dehumanising. I've been through it before, with less digital social options than we have now. It is a huge advantage that we have and you are greatly underestimating and undervaluing it.
The 2 things that digital can not fully help with are distance from loved ones. It is not "people" that we crave interaction from but specific people that we are familiar with. Not being around family, a mother or father away from their children etc.
The other being physical interaction, this however is partially connected to the above, but also is less about physically interacting with people but just a desire for sexual instinct. One that is quite easily suppressed with a little effort.
Hell lots of men on here have been sexually isolated for much longer than what is currently being asked during this global situation.
You have an issue with people judging you, but you have no problem dismissing and undervaluing an extremely important lifeline that has saved so many lives. A very important lifeline that you clearly do not understand. "And you think I have family that I miss the attention of and that digital access will fix? I have more understanding than you care to comprehend. I've been isolated a very long time and I make sacrifices to have social interactions. When you sit alone 24hrs a day, day in day out for not weeks but years. Come back and tell me the face on a screen isn't dehumanizing. That you won't need the actual company of others just so you don't break completely. If people like me were on here just for sex I'd lie here with my legs spread instead every day as fugly as I am I'd always have cock if I wanted just that. But it isn't about just sex. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime
There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now
Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing
It is not dehumanising. I've been through it before, with less digital social options than we have now. It is a huge advantage that we have and you are greatly underestimating and undervaluing it.
The 2 things that digital can not fully help with are distance from loved ones. It is not "people" that we crave interaction from but specific people that we are familiar with. Not being around family, a mother or father away from their children etc.
The other being physical interaction, this however is partially connected to the above, but also is less about physically interacting with people but just a desire for sexual instinct. One that is quite easily suppressed with a little effort.
Hell lots of men on here have been sexually isolated for much longer than what is currently being asked during this global situation.
You have an issue with people judging you, but you have no problem dismissing and undervaluing an extremely important lifeline that has saved so many lives. A very important lifeline that you clearly do not understand.
And you think I have family that I miss the attention of and that digital access will fix?
I have more understanding than you care to comprehend. I've been isolated a very long time and I make sacrifices to have social interactions.
When you sit alone 24hrs a day, day in day out for not weeks but years. Come back and tell me the face on a screen isn't dehumanizing. That you won't need the actual company of others just so you don't break completely.
If people like me were on here just for sex I'd lie here with my legs spread instead every day as fugly as I am I'd always have cock if I wanted just that. But it isn't about just sex. "Thing is in times of normality I really do get what you are saying, but these are not normal times! If everyone followed the advice as soon as it were issued we would stand a better chance of it being over sooner but because people ignore it,the choices will be made for us It's about looking at the needs of EVERYONE not just ourselves. | |||
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"I have more understanding than you care to comprehend. I've been isolated a very long time and I make sacrifices to have social interactions. When you sit alone 24hrs a day, day in day out for not weeks but years. Come back and tell me the face on a screen isn't dehumanizing. That you won't need the actual company of others just so you don't break completely." And that right there is you being a hypocrite yourself. Judging me, and my response. I have been isolated before, much more than a few weeks. So this interaction is now over and I shall leave you to your attempt at justifying your decisions. | |||
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"I dont think people are hypocrites but I do think some are being very judgemental. I will continue to see my long term fwb as already I'm anxious about the social distancing. I have also volunteered to help for some of my local people that cant get out and about and some people on lockdown because it keeps me busy and gives me purpose. I know I am much more at risk while out shopping for hours than I am visiting one person who is basically in isolation apart from seeing me. Yet I've been called selfish and deluded. Mental health is being talked about but I still fear the way we are curbing the spread will ultimately take more lives than the virus itself x So you are still socialising then in contact with vulnerable people ? no I'm not socialising. I'm doing essential shopping for people who cant go out and seeing my long term fwb who we have actually discussed If we actually have something more and maybe should move him in. I dont really call shopping for 27 hour a week socialising. Hes self isolating because he now has no where to go. And his parents are over 70... his sister on the list of vulnerable people. You shouldn’t be doing all that if contact with vulnerable people, that’s how it spreads. It’s like sitting yourself in isolation all day then go out in crowds... you obviously know better than the proper advice I have been given from on high then...
I do that’s right I'll agree to disagree and in the meantime I shall carry on helping people because in these uncertain times I'd much rather keep busy doing something good than ideal and judgemental "Ignore those with judgement in their posts. The vulnerable need someone to help them and so you're doing a grand job. It's also good that in doing so you're helping keep your mental health on some sort of even keel. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime
There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now
Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing
It is not dehumanising. I've been through it before, with less digital social options than we have now. It is a huge advantage that we have and you are greatly underestimating and undervaluing it.
The 2 things that digital can not fully help with are distance from loved ones. It is not "people" that we crave interaction from but specific people that we are familiar with. Not being around family, a mother or father away from their children etc.
The other being physical interaction, this however is partially connected to the above, but also is less about physically interacting with people but just a desire for sexual instinct. One that is quite easily suppressed with a little effort.
Hell lots of men on here have been sexually isolated for much longer than what is currently being asked during this global situation.
You have an issue with people judging you, but you have no problem dismissing and undervaluing an extremely important lifeline that has saved so many lives. A very important lifeline that you clearly do not understand. "True, some of us men on here have been sexually isolated for many years. The virus has made no difference to our circumstances. | |||
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I do that’s right I'll agree to disagree and in the meantime I shall carry on helping people because in these uncertain times I'd much rather keep busy doing something good than ideal and judgemental
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions...
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough. "Or maybe hear that you or someone you met has a vulnerable relative who has contracted it and died as a result. There are many who as a result of meeting now display a disregard for others safety and may find it hard to get meets later when they find they're on many block lists. If one demonstrates such disregard with is that clearly has no vaccine and is killing thousands it could be easily rightly be assumed they have little regard for others sexual health too even in the better times. For me there's little difference. Behaviour is hard to change. | |||
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"Do you equate sex as the same level of necessity as food? Do you think most people meet on here to have an orgasm? Or do you think human connection is part of it? If I want human connection I see a friend from a safe distance. Or FaceTime
There really have never been so many ways to connect with people from distance as there is now
Will see how long people last who have never been isolated before. These means of connecting to others digitally won't be the same as actual human interaction. You'll discover its dehumanizing
It is not dehumanising. I've been through it before, with less digital social options than we have now. It is a huge advantage that we have and you are greatly underestimating and undervaluing it.
The 2 things that digital can not fully help with are distance from loved ones. It is not "people" that we crave interaction from but specific people that we are familiar with. Not being around family, a mother or father away from their children etc.
The other being physical interaction, this however is partially connected to the above, but also is less about physically interacting with people but just a desire for sexual instinct. One that is quite easily suppressed with a little effort.
Hell lots of men on here have been sexually isolated for much longer than what is currently being asked during this global situation.
You have an issue with people judging you, but you have no problem dismissing and undervaluing an extremely important lifeline that has saved so many lives. A very important lifeline that you clearly do not understand.
And you think I have family that I miss the attention of and that digital access will fix?
I have more understanding than you care to comprehend. I've been isolated a very long time and I make sacrifices to have social interactions.
When you sit alone 24hrs a day, day in day out for not weeks but years. Come back and tell me the face on a screen isn't dehumanizing. That you won't need the actual company of others just so you don't break completely.
If people like me were on here just for sex I'd lie here with my legs spread instead every day as fugly as I am I'd always have cock if I wanted just that. But it isn't about just sex. "Sadly many people judge by their own yardstick (which doesn't qualify them) and lack empathy. Your opening post is a good one but sadly won't be accepted by narrow-minded individuals. I, too, keep stating about the dangers of long standing high levels of cortisol... But I'm sure people would rather fuel this with their ongoing fear/stress/anger than help themselves with accepting things they cannot control. | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions...
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough.
Or maybe hear that you or someone you met has a vulnerable relative who has contracted it and died as a result.
There are many who as a result of meeting now display a disregard for others safety and may find it hard to get meets later when they find they're on many block lists. If one demonstrates such disregard with is that clearly has no vaccine and is killing thousands it could be easily rightly be assumed they have little regard for others sexual health too even in the better times.
For me there's little difference. Behaviour is hard to change."For me complete isolation or the virus during this pandemic will be the death of me. So in order for me to survive I see a fwb which isn't just about sex! I'm judged for trying to make sure I survive. It's not like I'm meeting complete strangers, I'm not having gangbangs with every Tom dick and Harry, I'm not throwing parties. | |||
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"I'm absolutely judging. I'll judge all day long. Meeting anyone at the moment is a bad idea. We're all in this together and *everyone* needs to at a minimum keep away from others unless absolutely necessary. All others. Even friends. Then don't leave your house what so ever. Indirect contact is what people need to worry about" I'm leaving the house to grocery shop in order to *survive*. I'm sorry I have a physiological need for nutrition that means I can't avoid people. Apart from that I'm not leaving the house. At all. | |||
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"I'm absolutely judging. I'll judge all day long. Meeting anyone at the moment is a bad idea. We're all in this together and *everyone* needs to at a minimum keep away from others unless absolutely necessary. All others. Even friends. Then don't leave your house what so ever. Indirect contact is what people need to worry about I'm leaving the house to grocery shop in order to *survive*. I'm sorry I have a physiological need for nutrition that means I can't avoid people. Apart from that I'm not leaving the house. At all. Be concerned with your own needs. Allow others to be concerned with theirs. Judging another for seeing someone when you are yourself joining others on a larger scale in public areas do you not see the hypocrisy in it. I've not been food shopping in 2 weeks and I only spent £60 before that was a month. I don't have food stocked I can't afford to bulk buy. I will have to brave the shops somehow. But I do know the shops are more riskier than seeing an individual. I have to get taxi for shopping whose to say the driver isn't sick, then I have to collect what I can which I doubt is very little left. Which is expensive given the fact it would probably take multiple trips to get what I need. Have to get to check out with goods I'd wish to purchase and there's the cashier. Who isn't 2m away and touched everything you've just touched and is breathing in your direction. Then it's hand over cash and hope I can pay exactly because the change is contaminated. Pay by card I have to touch the card machine. All of this while walking round a store where people have coughed and spluttered, picked up items, put them back, opened freezer doors. Imagine how many points of indirect contact have been made just from shopping with how many people that day. Then have get taxi home. But having physical contact with a person I must be mad eh? Meeting anyone socially right now is irresponsible. Period. In a normal situation, do what you like. In a public health emergency, letting people do what they feel is best will cost lives. If someone you know in coming months commits suicide from the isolation I'm sure those judgments will resonate within you for a long time. As someone who's at risk for suicide myself, don't you dare. Manage your mental health. Not at the expense of public health. You cast judgements but you have no consideration to another's mental health. So I dare say it. You look after you let others look after themselves your judgement is not necessary." This is where the whole problem is,it's not about everyone looking after themselves!!!! It's about everyone looking after each other. | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do." Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. | |||
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"I'm absolutely judging. I'll judge all day long. Meeting anyone at the moment is a bad idea. We're all in this together and *everyone* needs to at a minimum keep away from others unless absolutely necessary. All others. Even friends. Then don't leave your house what so ever. Indirect contact is what people need to worry about I'm leaving the house to grocery shop in order to *survive*. I'm sorry I have a physiological need for nutrition that means I can't avoid people. Apart from that I'm not leaving the house. At all. Be concerned with your own needs. Allow others to be concerned with theirs. Judging another for seeing someone when you are yourself joining others on a larger scale in public areas do you not see the hypocrisy in it. I've not been food shopping in 2 weeks and I only spent £60 before that was a month. I don't have food stocked I can't afford to bulk buy. I will have to brave the shops somehow. But I do know the shops are more riskier than seeing an individual. I have to get taxi for shopping whose to say the driver isn't sick, then I have to collect what I can which I doubt is very little left. Which is expensive given the fact it would probably take multiple trips to get what I need. Have to get to check out with goods I'd wish to purchase and there's the cashier. Who isn't 2m away and touched everything you've just touched and is breathing in your direction. Then it's hand over cash and hope I can pay exactly because the change is contaminated. Pay by card I have to touch the card machine. All of this while walking round a store where people have coughed and spluttered, picked up items, put them back, opened freezer doors. Imagine how many points of indirect contact have been made just from shopping with how many people that day. Then have get taxi home. But having physical contact with a person I must be mad eh? Meeting anyone socially right now is irresponsible. Period. In a normal situation, do what you like. In a public health emergency, letting people do what they feel is best will cost lives. If someone you know in coming months commits suicide from the isolation I'm sure those judgments will resonate within you for a long time. As someone who's at risk for suicide myself, don't you dare. Manage your mental health. Not at the expense of public health. You cast judgements but you have no consideration to another's mental health. So I dare say it. You look after you let others look after themselves your judgement is not necessary. This is where the whole problem is,it's not about everyone looking after themselves!!!! It's about everyone looking after each other." You don't think 2 people supporting each others mental well being is looking after another? | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do. Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. " No, but shopping is *necessary*. We need to eat. And asymptomatic transmission is a thing. | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do. Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. " It’s an inessential risk at a time when no one actually knows whether they are sick. I understand the need to socialise but there are so many ways of doing that now: not least, the chat rooms on here | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do. Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. It’s an inessential risk at a time when no one actually knows whether they are sick. I understand the need to socialise but there are so many ways of doing that now: not least, the chat rooms on here" The chatrooms on here hahahaha Isolation means more guys making demands of women over the chatrooms. Which is no good for mental well-being being treated like you're there for their pleasures. Chatrooms will not be the ideal place at all. | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do. Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. It’s an inessential risk at a time when no one actually knows whether they are sick. I understand the need to socialise but there are so many ways of doing that now: not least, the chat rooms on here The chatrooms on here hahahaha Isolation means more guys making demands of women over the chatrooms. Which is no good for mental well-being being treated like you're there for their pleasures. Chatrooms will not be the ideal place at all." Well fine but everyone has the capacity to video call these days | |||
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"Most people would regard being able to feed yourself for a week to be essential. Many people would not look at a bukkake party (for example) as essential. So one might be more risky than the other, but one might also be more necessary than the other. Of course, if you feel your plans were absolutely essential then do what you need to do. Individual need for social contact I don't think extends to bukkake parties. It's a gathering of many people which of course is not minimising spread. That would be irresponsible. But is individuals who are not sick meeting more dangerous than going shopping? No it is not. No, but shopping is *necessary*. We need to eat. And asymptomatic transmission is a thing. " For some people social contact is necessary too. Especially for those who don't have family and friends. | |||
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" You cast judgements but you have no consideration to another's mental health. So I dare say it. You look after you let others look after themselves your judgement is not necessary." The thing is though it's not as simple as that is it? The actions of others potentially *do* impact me and my family in this current situation - whether that be by going shopping unnecessarily, going to Brighton for the day because it's sunny, or not being able to keep their sex life in check - by taking those risks, they potentially catch COVID and pass it on to me or my family some of whom are high risk and would probably die if they catch it. So I'll stand in judgement of *anyone* taking unnecessary risks through pure selfishness and neediness, regardless of the activity. We all have to eat to survive, so trips to the supermarket are necessary but should be limited to *only* when necessary. Any other activity pretty much is unnecessary to survival and therefore should be avoided and if you are undertaking *any* of them you're being both selfish and irresponsible in my book. | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions...
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough.
Or maybe hear that you or someone you met has a vulnerable relative who has contracted it and died as a result.
There are many who as a result of meeting now display a disregard for others safety and may find it hard to get meets later when they find they're on many block lists. If one demonstrates such disregard with is that clearly has no vaccine and is killing thousands it could be easily rightly be assumed they have little regard for others sexual health too even in the better times.
For me there's little difference. Behaviour is hard to change.
For me complete isolation or the virus during this pandemic will be the death of me. So in order for me to survive I see a fwb which isn't just about sex! I'm judged for trying to make sure I survive. It's not like I'm meeting complete strangers, I'm not having gangbangs with every Tom dick and Harry, I'm not throwing parties.
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"Going to the supermarket to buy essential items and food isn’t the same as having a one on one meet with someone which will obviously involve physical contact. In the shops today I whizzed round and had surgical gloves on, didn’t touch my face didn’t linger or go too close to anyone. Was in and out used hand sanitiser when I got in my car and washed my hands when I got home. " We can't get online delivery from any supermarket here, even though I technically qualify as priority through being physically disabled. Ocado is our regular option but the website is down. Sainsbury's and Tesco etc are not accepting new registration. How do you get food without going to the shops? Obviously you go quickly, get what you need only and scarper quickly. I'm also shop for mates of mine who are more disabled, live alone and also can't get online delivery. One mate should be in the 1.5m extra vulnerable people but he's had nothing. Do I leave him to starve? No, I'm going to the fucking shop for him, OK. But I'm certainly not meeting randomers off the Internet for sex! It's got nothing to do with being liberated, it's got everything to do with common sense and supporting the greater good! | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions...
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough.
Or maybe hear that you or someone you met has a vulnerable relative who has contracted it and died as a result.
There are many who as a result of meeting now display a disregard for others safety and may find it hard to get meets later when they find they're on many block lists. If one demonstrates such disregard with is that clearly has no vaccine and is killing thousands it could be easily rightly be assumed they have little regard for others sexual health too even in the better times.
For me there's little difference. Behaviour is hard to change.
For me complete isolation or the virus during this pandemic will be the death of me. So in order for me to survive I see a fwb which isn't just about sex! I'm judged for trying to make sure I survive. It's not like I'm meeting complete strangers, I'm not having gangbangs with every Tom dick and Harry, I'm not throwing parties.
Guess adding a third person for last meet was essential.
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes."It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid. | |||
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It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes.
It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid."What of the people who aren't doing so though? What if these people are strictly minimising who they have contact with. Just like everyone else is doing with their family. But if someone doesn't have family they should just deal with it? Suck it up? Be damned with their mental health? | |||
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It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes.
It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid.
What of the people who aren't doing so though? What if these people are strictly minimising who they have contact with. Just like everyone else is doing with their family. But if someone doesn't have family they should just deal with it? Suck it up? Be damned with their mental health?"That is exactly what we are supposed to be doing, yes. As has been pointed out, there are other things you can do for your mental health. There are other ways to communicate. Also, you’ve talked about these people being ‘trusted’ friends. That’s great, but no one knows whether they have it. | |||
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"So many people casting judgement on here. If you do not practice what you preach then you have no right to judge. If you're going to supermarkets you're not isolating. It's a public place and one which has the most foot traffic than anywhere else in the country now. When you understand the ways in which you can be infected by the virus then hopefully people will show more understanding, empathy and compassion. The virus spreads most in forms of micro droplets. Which come from breathing, coughing and sneezing. Every breath and infected person makes expels the virus from their body. On to which is surfaces that have varying rates in which the virus survives outside of the body. It lingers in the air for up to 3hrs. So in an infected person goes shopping then you're surrounded with potential means of catching it. Everything you touch and everywhere you breathe you're at risk. But going shopping people find acceptable they aren't judging people who go shopping. So when it comes to someone meeting someone privately in a private residence people lose their shit and out comes the judgement. But consider the risks who is taking more risks and who is putting more people at risk. Then we have the nhs workers who work directly with victims of the virus. Who go shopping... see where this is going? They are all potential carriers of the virus. To make more sense would be to have shuttle buses for nhs workers dealing with the victims. Saves spreading the virus through public transport and fuel stations by refilling their cars. The government to provide food for the nhs workers so they don't attend large foot traffic areas like supermarkets. Compensate the nhs workers who are in immediate risk of the virus, but also support the public by isolating the possible carriers even though they are doing their job they put others at risk by going to supermarkets. In severe deadly outbreaks it would be the health providers directly quarantined with the patients. They don't get to leave the quarantine whether or not they're infected. So begs the question why if it's so serious that nhs workers directly involved with victims of the virus is this not the case? Why I dare say is compassion for the nhs workers and the need to be with family. People considering the mental health well being of all of this. Not everyone has a support network. Some people are just trying to balance their mental health and seeing as 1 on 1 meets in a private residence has less chance of spread than the above can people stop making judgements on them which is also detrimental to their mental health. Mental health plays a huge roll in physical health. High levels of cortisol has an effect on the immune system. Increasing the odds of being severely affected by not just covid19 but other infections. If you don't leave your house and completely isolated yourself alone and manage to stay sane through it all I think you'll be just fine you'd have battled through and deserve appraisal. But we haven't got through it yet Loneliness and isolation is what breaks people down. Many of you get to isolate with another or other individuals, you still see loved ones and friends. Many of you have only just began living isolated life. Days and weeks soon people will understand what it's like being alone and will need mental health support from where ever they can get it. I'm quite sure nhs workers don't want suicide rates to go up, self harming rates to go up so if people need to meet don't judge them because you'll find yourself being a hypocrite when you leave your house to get what you need from the shops and what ever else makes you leave your house. It's easy to make judgement but look in the mirror first before you do, reflect on what you're actually doing first. I'm not putting health workers down but I am saying is judgement of people here is appalling and yet they judge without seeing the whole picture. Narrowminded that focuses on 1 thing and that's the fact they don't care about anyone else but themselves. They don't see people shopping as a risk because they do it. It's not risky to them in their eyes if others are doing it. Since they aren't meeting people to support their mental health other people who do are wrong. Time will tell how many people will change their _iews. Cabin fever sets in, the little voice in your head gets louder because you've ran out of distractions and you're left with thoughts. There's a reason inmates punishment of isolation rectifies behaviour. Humans need social contact. Think before you cast judgement" Amen to that sister x | |||
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes."You actually want to catch it and die? | |||
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"Your only sounding off because you've been having meets. I'm being judged as I always am. I'm judged for being a sexually liberated woman. I'm judged for trying to balance my mental health. People judging others when their actions are questionable also. Forced closure of clubs Friday and everything since people are judging it's amazing how people change. I have an evening with 2 fwbs and I'm treated with utter disdain. No one knows what goes on in my life or anyone else's but they sit here casting judgement and yet do not consider their own actions. No judgement from me.... We all have to make our own decisions...
People will make decisions based on their needs. I'm waiting in couple of weeks how many of these judgemental people will begin to meet again just to save their sanity. They will discover that digital connection isn't enough.
Or maybe hear that you or someone you met has a vulnerable relative who has contracted it and died as a result.
There are many who as a result of meeting now display a disregard for others safety and may find it hard to get meets later when they find they're on many block lists. If one demonstrates such disregard with is that clearly has no vaccine and is killing thousands it could be easily rightly be assumed they have little regard for others sexual health too even in the better times.
For me there's little difference. Behaviour is hard to change.
For me complete isolation or the virus during this pandemic will be the death of me. So in order for me to survive I see a fwb which isn't just about sex! I'm judged for trying to make sure I survive. It's not like I'm meeting complete strangers, I'm not having gangbangs with every Tom dick and Harry, I'm not throwing parties.
Guess adding a third person for last meet was essential.
Each to their own I guess.
Of course the third person was essential, I'm suprised it wasn't a gangbang!"For the photos and evidence it was only two playing | |||
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes.
It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid.
What of the people who aren't doing so though? What if these people are strictly minimising who they have contact with. Just like everyone else is doing with their family. But if someone doesn't have family they should just deal with it? Suck it up? Be damned with their mental health?
That is exactly what we are supposed to be doing, yes.
As has been pointed out, there are other things you can do for your mental health. There are other ways to communicate.
Also, you’ve talked about these people being ‘trusted’ friends. That’s great, but no one knows whether they have it. "No one knows if the people who still continue to shop have it. The whole point of this is how from friday when the government decided to force closures the very same day I meet 2 fwbs for more than just sex. That if the government hadn't forced closures of public gathering places I wouldn't be so judged. Now people who met other individuals are the focus of people's judgement. Yet other people if given the chance would still continue to carry on. I didn't deserve the treatment I've had this weekend and neither does anyone else. I didn't go out nightclubbing. Even asked admin to remove the social event planned for Wednesday from the meets/events listings. I'm not advocating group gatherings. I'm advocating for people stop being judgemental when they don't know reasons behind their choices. I've lived with my mental health all my adult life. I try to manage it best I can by my self. If I had physical ailment and I need medication you'd tell me to take it, if I need social interaction with a person to keep well basically I'm just meant to ignore it and suffer the consequences of doing so. | |||
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes.
It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid.
What of the people who aren't doing so though? What if these people are strictly minimising who they have contact with. Just like everyone else is doing with their family. But if someone doesn't have family they should just deal with it? Suck it up? Be damned with their mental health?
That is exactly what we are supposed to be doing, yes.
As has been pointed out, there are other things you can do for your mental health. There are other ways to communicate.
Also, you’ve talked about these people being ‘trusted’ friends. That’s great, but no one knows whether they have it.
No one knows if the people who still continue to shop have it.
The whole point of this is how from friday when the government decided to force closures the very same day I meet 2 fwbs for more than just sex.
That if the government hadn't forced closures of public gathering places I wouldn't be so judged. Now people who met other individuals are the focus of people's judgement. Yet other people if given the chance would still continue to carry on. I didn't deserve the treatment I've had this weekend and neither does anyone else. I didn't go out nightclubbing. Even asked admin to remove the social event planned for Wednesday from the meets/events listings. I'm not advocating group gatherings. I'm advocating for people stop being judgemental when they don't know reasons behind their choices.
I've lived with my mental health all my adult life. I try to manage it best I can by my self. If I had physical ailment and I need medication you'd tell me to take it, if I need social interaction with a person to keep well basically I'm just meant to ignore it and suffer the consequences of doing so."Even if the consequences is death? | |||
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes.
It’s lots of small, low risk interactions that eventually add up to thousands of people dead. If it takes some public shaming to incentivise people not to have those low risk interactions, so be it, I’m afraid.
What of the people who aren't doing so though? What if these people are strictly minimising who they have contact with. Just like everyone else is doing with their family. But if someone doesn't have family they should just deal with it? Suck it up? Be damned with their mental health?
That is exactly what we are supposed to be doing, yes.
As has been pointed out, there are other things you can do for your mental health. There are other ways to communicate.
Also, you’ve talked about these people being ‘trusted’ friends. That’s great, but no one knows whether they have it.
No one knows if the people who still continue to shop have it.
The whole point of this is how from friday when the government decided to force closures the very same day I meet 2 fwbs for more than just sex.
That if the government hadn't forced closures of public gathering places I wouldn't be so judged. Now people who met other individuals are the focus of people's judgement. Yet other people if given the chance would still continue to carry on. I didn't deserve the treatment I've had this weekend and neither does anyone else. I didn't go out nightclubbing. Even asked admin to remove the social event planned for Wednesday from the meets/events listings. I'm not advocating group gatherings. I'm advocating for people stop being judgemental when they don't know reasons behind their choices.
I've lived with my mental health all my adult life. I try to manage it best I can by my self. If I had physical ailment and I need medication you'd tell me to take it, if I need social interaction with a person to keep well basically I'm just meant to ignore it and suffer the consequences of doing so.
Even if the consequences is death?"What's the difference between suicide and potentially catching covid19? Weighing the risks of knowing a downward spiral being completely isolated will result in irrational thinking which leads to death. Or spending time with someone who also is isolated and least likely to have covid19 and prevent downward spiral. Which do you think is more likely to end up with a finale | |||
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"OP could you see a friend and stay two metres away and just chat? That’s social interaction but so much less risky. You do see that lack of knowledge in the virus do you not? The 2m is the distance a normal breath travels in a single exhale. Risk has already been taken by being 2m so what difference does it make if I chose to have sex with that person or sat next to them watching movies for a few hours. " I’m stepping away from the thread. | |||
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" No one knows if the people who still continue to shop have it. " But people HAVE TO shop. It’s not a choice, particularly as those who genuinely need delivery slots are struggling to get them. You’re going to keep on doing what you want to do. I mean it genuinely when I say that I hope you don’t have cause to regret your choices when all is said and done. But please don’t convince yourself that there’s moral equivalence between what you are doing and people wanting to feed themselves and their loved ones. And try to respect that, when you get shamed after broadcasting what you’ve been up to, those people are actually doing the right thing by putting social pressure on others to keep themselves and everyone else safe. | |||
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" No one knows if the people who still continue to shop have it. But people HAVE TO shop. It’s not a choice, particularly as those who genuinely need delivery slots are struggling to get them. You’re going to keep on doing what you want to do. I mean it genuinely when I say that I hope you don’t have cause to regret your choices when all is said and done. But please don’t convince yourself that there’s moral equivalence between what you are doing and people wanting to feed themselves and their loved ones. And try to respect that, when you get shamed after broadcasting what you’ve been up to, those people are actually doing the right thing by putting social pressure on others to keep themselves and everyone else safe."
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"You seriously can't put meets in the same category as people shopping for food! these two things are very different one is a necessity. So are threesomes, but bukkake parties are not. This has been established As I explained my Friday evening it's no where near a bukkake party. How many other people had company Friday? How many were at the pub for final closing until restrictions are lifted? Who’s here saying that’s justified? Look, I don’t really judge you particularly. You’re right that it was probably a low risk interaction, but lots of low risk decisions combine to make a high risk sequence. What’s done is done. I just think you need to be more scared than you are for the sake of other people, and think that the risky decisions should stop now. I'm isolated 99% of my time the risks are higher to me in terms of my mental health than me meeting someone I trust. I'm not likely to be infecting people if I don't see people. So what are the risks of 2 isolated people seeing each other? I'm more likely to catch the virus going to a supermarket. Which I haven't done for weeks. Since as of the past month I've seen a person once every 7 days. That means I've been through the 7 day isolation period. If I'm sick il do 14 days but no doubt that should I catch it I won't be around that long if it's covid19. You say you're high risk and the virus could kill you but you're having threesomes to increase your chances of catching it
It's ok give it a few weeks I will end up doing everyone a favour. Because I'm not worthy of maintaining my mental health.
Recommendation of 12 weeks isolation started Sunday. Which is 2 days after Friday. Here I am typhoid fucking Mary in everyone's eyes."You're obviously hurting. And if people cannot empathise with you, even if they disagree, they are not worthy of your response. We all will be on lockdown very shortly, maybe that will shut them up. | |||
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