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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So watching Jeremy Vine and old bullshit is spouting off again on smokers.

The subject is should there be a ban on smoking and vaping.

So this pompous prat who wants to be a doctor on minute then a politician and a presenter the next...has just spouted that if you are a smoker you will be taking up a hospital bed for someone suffering from the virus. Then he points out that being a smoker when the chips are down...that you wont get a ventilator as a fitter person will get it . ..then he tells you to stop smoking ffs.

People are stressed and self isolating and his views do not help as your fecked if you continue smoking and fecked if you stop and get the virus ffs

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

I think if you're on the verge of being hospitalised with a smoking related illness, quitting now won't make a jot of difference. So aye, he's spouting shite, I agree.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think if you're on the verge of being hospitalised with a smoking related illness, quitting now won't make a jot of difference. So aye, he's spouting shite, I agree. "

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i kinda get the point being made... which is because Covid basically affects the lungs, those that are smokers are going to be at a worse position at the get go...

not sure i would have put it like that though.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like hes giving good advice to me

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

The man is self righteous cunt and as always been ... mr fucking perfect .... if u smoke then hey if we get and then it will kill us quicker meaning freeing a bed up sooner .... it’s any excuse to scar monger and to criticise at any opportunity... make shit news and sells shit papers ... what next obese ppl to be put down cuz they take two beds ..

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

If you had to make the choice about who to put on a ventilator between people equally as ill but one is a smoker. Who is going to get the chance?

The one with the best chance of recovery I suspect with the healthier lungs.

Sounds like they are getting people ready for when these hard choices need to be made.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i kinda get the point being made... which is because Covid basically affects the lungs, those that are smokers are going to be at a worse position at the get go...

not sure i would have put it like that though..... "

I think all smokers will know that, but he was sending so much mixed messages on it that it will only cause distress to those who are struggling..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sounds like hes giving good advice to me"

Hey I'm glad hes not my GP the man is a tosser

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The man is self righteous cunt and as always been ... mr fucking perfect .... if u smoke then hey if we get and then it will kill us quicker meaning freeing a bed up sooner .... it’s any excuse to scar monger and to criticise at any opportunity... make shit news and sells shit papers ... what next obese ppl to be put down cuz they take two beds .. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you had to make the choice about who to put on a ventilator between people equally as ill but one is a smoker. Who is going to get the chance?

The one with the best chance of recovery I suspect with the healthier lungs.

Sounds like they are getting people ready for when these hard choices need to be made. "

Whilst putting stress on the ones it will effect...its too late to stop now even if you could...

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

This is a thread created by either ex smokers or ppl who wish they had of smoked ... so now the end is nigh they are now coming out to scare us smokers by giving options of doom .. just start smoking and be done with it, cuz u know u want too oh and it’s an hunger suppressant so it means no more panic buying .. no food, no use for loo rolls ... beds emptied earlier, ok in the wrong direction but it’s a winner all round .. now I’ve wrote that I’m off for a fag

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Makes no sense to do anything that involves putting your hands and fingers directly to your face and mouth.

Just as ludicrous as all the panic buying and stockpiling going on at the moment

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Makes no sense to do anything that involves putting your hands and fingers directly to your face and mouth.

Just as ludicrous as all the panic buying and stockpiling going on at the moment

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That’s a good point.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is a thread created by either ex smokers or ppl who wish they had of smoked ... so now the end is nigh they are now coming out to scare us smokers by giving options of doom .. just start smoking and be done with it, cuz u know u want too oh and it’s an hunger suppressant so it means no more panic buying .. no food, no use for loo rolls ... beds emptied earlier, ok in the wrong direction but it’s a winner all round .. now I’ve wrote that I’m off for a fag "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing's for sure, once all this is over and the government start to pay off all this money they've been spending 20 Bensons is going to cost you about £30

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"One thing's for sure, once all this is over and the government start to pay off all this money they've been spending 20 Bensons is going to cost you about £30 "

I’ll go the docs and get those tablets to help me stop ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The senior medics I know who are no longer treating outpatients are being given lessons by the tutors of all the medical students who finished early to get them reacquainted with stuff they haven’t done for years like dealing with sepsis etc. They are all quite shocked by how little understanding there is in the general population of how bad this could get.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In other news.

Police to serve emergency orders in Scotland.

I will have six pints of lager and four bottles of Bucky please all with double whisky chasers.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Jeremy vine is a twat always turn off as soon as his progress starts.

Smokers are going to be badly hit by this bug and I'm sure they know it, but life is about choices they made theirs and will have to live with the consequences, doesn't mean I dont have sympathy for them and that's from a completely non smoker

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be."

Exactly...the blokes just a over opinionated dickhead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be.

Exactly...the blokes just a over opinionated dickhead "

Who is me?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be.

Exactly...the blokes just a over opinionated dickhead

Who is me? "

Nah not you Dr bullshit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be.

Exactly...the blokes just a over opinionated dickhead

Who is me?

Nah not you Dr bullshit "

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

Unfortunately if there are not enough ventilators then a stark choice has to be made by the doctors. In Italy they are already making those choices. One ventilator and a 62 year old and a 87 year old requiring it. It goes to the 62 year old . Hence why we need to keep to the government advice to keep the numbers down and make sure there are enough ventilators for all

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

We started occasional smoking again after 17 years, love it , especially after sex.

Smoking Marlboro touch blue - less smoke , less smell,, and much less tax

There’s also a very sexy WhatsApp smoking group with a few members in here, they are among the healthiest looking women I’ve ever seen.

There are much bigger killers like stress and obesity, calm the fuck down

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Unfortunately if there are not enough ventilators then a stark choice has to be made by the doctors. In Italy they are already making those choices. One ventilator and a 62 year old and a 87 year old requiring it. It goes to the 62 year old . Hence why we need to keep to the government advice to keep the numbers down and make sure there are enough ventilators for all"

As a smoker who knows I need to give up as it's really bad for me...I know all of what you put.

What I object to is some doctor,columnist,politician, tv presenter dishing stupid opinions out by telling smokers to stop in one breath ,then telling them they wont get a ventilator in the next...ffs all he is doing is causing unwanted stress and anxiety. Doctor? My arse

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"So watching Jeremy Vine and old bullshit is spouting off again on smokers.

The subject is should there be a ban on smoking and vaping.

So this pompous prat who wants to be a doctor on minute then a politician and a presenter the next...has just spouted that if you are a smoker you will be taking up a hospital bed for someone suffering from the virus. Then he points out that being a smoker when the chips are down...that you wont get a ventilator as a fitter person will get it . ..then he tells you to stop smoking ffs.

People are stressed and self isolating and his views do not help as your fecked if you continue smoking and fecked if you stop and get the virus ffs "

He probably fancies himself filling the void left by Katie Hopkins!

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Who is Dr David Bullshit, not heard of him before..??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Who is Dr David Bullshit, not heard of him before..??"

That's the twat here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bull_(politician)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive read quite a bit about him and listened to him speak and personally I find myself agreeing with alot of what he says.

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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago

the valleys

Not exactly on topic but did you know certain types of tobacco are being banned in May and that by 2030 the government has plans for a complete ban on smoking now given how much revenue is generated from tax on tobacco products what do you think they will increase to offset the shortfall in income?

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Sounds like reasonable advice and yeah I was a smoker until 6yrs ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not exactly on topic but did you know certain types of tobacco are being banned in May and that by 2030 the government has plans for a complete ban on smoking now given how much revenue is generated from tax on tobacco products what do you think they will increase to offset the shortfall in income?"

I dunno and not that bothered as a £10 packet of baccy lasts me a week now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The man is self righteous cunt and as always been ... mr fucking perfect .... if u smoke then hey if we get and then it will kill us quicker meaning freeing a bed up sooner .... it’s any excuse to scar monger and to criticise at any opportunity... make shit news and sells shit

papers ... what next obese ppl to be put down cuz they take two beds .. "

Vine always makes things worse. Worst thing about the TV licence is paying his wages.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The man is self righteous cunt and as always been ... mr fucking perfect .... if u smoke then hey if we get and then it will kill us quicker meaning freeing a bed up sooner .... it’s any excuse to scar monger and to criticise at any opportunity... make shit news and sells shit

papers ... what next obese ppl to be put down cuz they take two beds ..

Vine always makes things worse. Worst thing about the TV licence is paying his wages."

Too true...the decker himself said smoking and vaping is totally irresponsible..then going on about his liking for wine. Talk about living in greenhouse's eh

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Who is Dr David Bullshit, not heard of him before..??"

He's a one time pretty 'celebrity' doctor turned MP. Now earns a living making sensational statements to the media!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Comparing the consequences of tobacco smoking to alcohol consumption flies in the face of all the scientific evidence which suggests that smoking is by far more damaging to health.

But ok. Let us continue on with the worrying abandonment of all logical reason to suit our personal desires.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be."

As someone who became morbidly obese as a direct result of replacing cigarettes with hot buttered toast, I’m in trouble. Add in my asthma that was diagnosed 8+ years after quitting smoking and it looks like I’m completely fucked!

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By *heLaserGuyMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I wonder how many of the new ventilators were purchased using money raised from taxing smokers...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As a smoker I completely understand what hes was saying, but he didn't have to be a prick about it, yes at some point in my life I made a choice to smoke, now it's not a choice it's an addiction like any other and a bloody difficult one to break.

If I quit now and need a ventilator in 2 weeks time would I be treat as a smoker or non smoker? If someone as smoked for 30 years and has been stopped for 20 years would they be treat as a smoker or non smoker? I ask because the damage is already done, while I appreciate that the lungs do repair themselves over time the scarring from smoking still remains. Also if it's a choice between a smoker and someone who is "morbidly obese" who gets the ventilator? It's not as black and white as he made it out to be.

As someone who became morbidly obese as a direct result of replacing cigarettes with hot buttered toast, I’m in trouble. Add in my asthma that was diagnosed 8+ years after quitting smoking and it looks like I’m completely fucked!"

It's a tough one isn't it...I managed to pack the drink up after being a quite heavy drinker,but yeah if I packed the fags up I would pile the weight back on...then theres my diabetes to consider.. not easy and definitely Not black and white

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wonder how many of the new ventilators were purchased using money raised from taxing smokers... "

Good point

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By *sianMancMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Stop smoking to try and reduce the effects of covid19.

Stop drinking alcohol to reduce pressure on NHS.

Stop eating sugar to feed the elite and slowly cause yourself underlying health problems.

Do be safe

Do help your families

Do help your neighbours

Do self isolate if possible

Do smile do breathe do be positive and let's beat this together!

Peace

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

Ppl chose to smoke.

So...

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Ppl chose to smoke.

So..."

....shouldn’t be surprised if they don’t find themselves at the front of the queue for respirators

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Ppl chose to smoke.

So..."

People also chose to drink alcohol, overeat shite food, failed to self isolate.... how are we going to rank them all in order of importance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the revenue smokers will bring in after the crisis with elevated taxes smokers should be given priority!

Non smoker BTW

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I wonder if they read this as they have ditched bullshit today and got a real doctor on

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