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"Guinness have stepped up in Ireland, donated €1.5 million to irish bar staff who’ve lost jobs." It's a start well done them let's hope others follow suit. | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will." It's a great idea. Can't fault it. | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will." Apparently being a realist isn't accepted. People rather be ignorant or self centred like these millionaire tycoons who keep their wealth. If we didn't have these ridiculously wealthy people, the standard of living in this world would be better. I hate seeing the elderly and vunerable people on the poverty line going to the supermarkets unable to buy essential food and cleaning items because some rich person stocked up their garage with goods. These rich kids flaunting their wealth buying hand bags that could feed many families for a year. Unfair world | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune " I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok" He's fucking vile. Successfully sued the nhs for not giving him a contract. Taken millions in government handout for supplying a shit train service. Even the daily mail are calling him out for being selfish and greedy, character traits they normally endorse! | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok He's fucking vile. Successfully sued the nhs for not giving him a contract. Taken millions in government handout for supplying a shit train service. Even the daily mail are calling him out for being selfish and greedy, character traits they normally endorse!" Well there's an eye opener..maybe I should pay more attention to what goes on! | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok He's fucking vile. Successfully sued the nhs for not giving him a contract. Taken millions in government handout for supplying a shit train service. Even the daily mail are calling him out for being selfish and greedy, character traits they normally endorse!" Maybe , someone will push him off the platform when the 7.10 to Plymouth goes through.. | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok He's fucking vile. Successfully sued the nhs for not giving him a contract. Taken millions in government handout for supplying a shit train service. Even the daily mail are calling him out for being selfish and greedy, character traits they normally endorse! Maybe , someone will push him off the platform when the 7.10 to Plymouth goes through.." IF it goes through The very wealthy are going to get a wake up call too If not now, then soon | |||
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"This is the bit that I think has been missed out. I’m no Tory, but I’ve been impressed by Rishi Sunak recently and I’m sure his life is stressful given the big decisions. However, I can’t help thinking how we live in a world where a small amount of his billionaire father-in-law’s wealth could provide enough PPE for the country, or cover the wages of thousands of people." I think his father in law is an Indian citizen and lives there. | |||
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"This is the bit that I think has been missed out. I’m no Tory, but I’ve been impressed by Rishi Sunak recently and I’m sure his life is stressful given the big decisions. However, I can’t help thinking how we live in a world where a small amount of his billionaire father-in-law’s wealth could provide enough PPE for the country, or cover the wages of thousands of people. I think his father in law is an Indian citizen and lives there." I think that’s right. I didn’t mean that he should literally donate a portion of his wealth himself. It was more a comment on the general inequalities in wealth in our world and how that money could help in a crisis. Perhaps a better example is that we live in a world where a football club (PSG) paid £198 million for one player not long ago. | |||
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"This is the bit that I think has been missed out. I’m no Tory, but I’ve been impressed by Rishi Sunak recently and I’m sure his life is stressful given the big decisions. However, I can’t help thinking how we live in a world where a small amount of his billionaire father-in-law’s wealth could provide enough PPE for the country, or cover the wages of thousands of people. I think his father in law is an Indian citizen and lives there. I think that’s right. I didn’t mean that he should literally donate a portion of his wealth himself. It was more a comment on the general inequalities in wealth in our world and how that money could help in a crisis. Perhaps a better example is that we live in a world where a football club (PSG) paid £198 million for one player not long ago." Without ticket sales and tv money football clubs are going to start folding at an alarming rate. The obscene salaries could well be a thing of the past particularly if this goes on for several months | |||
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"I'd like to think that once we are through this, karma will kick in, and reward those that are giving their time/money freely for the greater good, wile giving the Bransons of this world a good hard kick in the nuts! Let the people remember who did what when they were called upon....."  | |||
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich"
Let's put the whining about taxing the rich into some fucking perspective. They don't need, say, their fiftieth yacht or hundredth investment property. Let's feed children, employ nurses, support those who literally have nothing, fund public health and research, while they cry over their slightly reduced mountain of cash. | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will." I wonder if it should work in reverse too ? Should my Brexit voting staff who I have continued to support at at a financial loss to myself for 3 years, now I have almost no money left yet they have lovely pensions should they support me as I will still have bills to pay as the government pays their wages as I close ? | |||
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"This is the bit that I think has been missed out. I’m no Tory, but I’ve been impressed by Rishi Sunak recently and I’m sure his life is stressful given the big decisions. However, I can’t help thinking how we live in a world where a small amount of his billionaire father-in-law’s wealth could provide enough PPE for the country, or cover the wages of thousands of people. Hats off to those like Gary Neville who have done something positive." Maybe..but I honestly think they had no choice..imagine hundreds of thousands of peopple losing their jobs..homes etc There would be mass civil unrest which Is the last thing they need. Plus I'm sure we will pay it back one way or another. | |||
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"I'd like to think that once we are through this, karma will kick in, and reward those that are giving their time/money freely for the greater good, wile giving the Bransons of this world a good hard kick in the nuts! Let the people remember who did what when they were called upon....." This extends to certain people such as local shop owners who have been asking for proof of address and not selling to people who aren’t local Or breaking down multi packs and selling the contents at hyper inflated prices. Two local shops to me have been doing this  | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will. I wonder if it should work in reverse too ? Should my Brexit voting staff who I have continued to support at at a financial loss to myself for 3 years, now I have almost no money left yet they have lovely pensions should they support me as I will still have bills to pay as the government pays their wages as I close ?" It's not about you dude it's about saving lives. You can get more money people can't get another life! Sorry to sound confrontational but it's the truth. I understand that Amazon don't own the trucks but they could certainly fund it they keep DPD in business with Delivery of their good. Alternatively they could allow everyone free access to Amazon prime due to the amount of people who are at home at the moment at least the families who currently can't afford it anyway. | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will. I wonder if it should work in reverse too ? Should my Brexit voting staff who I have continued to support at at a financial loss to myself for 3 years, now I have almost no money left yet they have lovely pensions should they support me as I will still have bills to pay as the government pays their wages as I close ? It's not about you dude it's about saving lives. You can get more money people can't get another life! Sorry to sound confrontational but it's the truth. I understand that Amazon don't own the trucks but they could certainly fund it they keep DPD in business with Delivery of their good. Alternatively they could allow everyone free access to Amazon prime due to the amount of people who are at home at the moment at least the families who currently can't afford it anyway. " My suggestion was not dismissing the responsibility of the rich Simply to illustrate not all employers are financially able to support What about my life does my life not matter how exactly can I get more money I need food too thanks As it happens I will ensure I have a safety net but not sure why you think I can get more whilst others can't | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will. I wonder if it should work in reverse too ? Should my Brexit voting staff who I have continued to support at at a financial loss to myself for 3 years, now I have almost no money left yet they have lovely pensions should they support me as I will still have bills to pay as the government pays their wages as I close ? It's not about you dude it's about saving lives. You can get more money people can't get another life! Sorry to sound confrontational but it's the truth. I understand that Amazon don't own the trucks but they could certainly fund it they keep DPD in business with Delivery of their good. Alternatively they could allow everyone free access to Amazon prime due to the amount of people who are at home at the moment at least the families who currently can't afford it anyway. My suggestion was not dismissing the responsibility of the rich Simply to illustrate not all employers are financially able to support What about my life does my life not matter how exactly can I get more money I need food too thanks As it happens I will ensure I have a safety net but not sure why you think I can get more whilst others can't " I understand what you mean and believe me I really get what you are saying and of course your life matters as much as anyone. This thread is about those that CAN afford to help not hard working individuals like yourself who have probably put blood sweat and tears into keeping things going and stand to lose everything, my heart goes out to you. My point was that There are companies and individuals who are awash with money and to some even 1billion is a small drop in the ocean but would make a massive difference to help fight the good fight. I hope you are able to keep your business going and able to support your staff and yourself over the coming months. | |||
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"All of these mega rich companies and individuals. Amazon Microsoft BP Shell Walmart...... The list goes on Mega rich individuals who make more money in interest on their money than they could possibly spend let alone the rest of it. This is the time banks pay back the help they received during the credit crunch. Help . A few million donated by these each can help. Offer to pay for as many ventilators as required, pay for health care workers PPE mask's and so on. Assist with the distribution of food, Amazon must have access to thousands of vehicles worldwide to help supermarkets delivery to people at home. Look I am a realist and I know that as soon as I post this there will instantly be people knocking it finding a thousand reasons why not. Into perspective I have approximately £300 on my bank that's it I need every penny. If I had 300 million 5 or 10 million out of that would be the equivalent of me donating a fiver probably less. I'd like to think that it's possible that this might happen sadly I doubt it will. I wonder if it should work in reverse too ? Should my Brexit voting staff who I have continued to support at at a financial loss to myself for 3 years, now I have almost no money left yet they have lovely pensions should they support me as I will still have bills to pay as the government pays their wages as I close ? It's not about you dude it's about saving lives. You can get more money people can't get another life! Sorry to sound confrontational but it's the truth. I understand that Amazon don't own the trucks but they could certainly fund it they keep DPD in business with Delivery of their good. Alternatively they could allow everyone free access to Amazon prime due to the amount of people who are at home at the moment at least the families who currently can't afford it anyway. My suggestion was not dismissing the responsibility of the rich Simply to illustrate not all employers are financially able to support What about my life does my life not matter how exactly can I get more money I need food too thanks As it happens I will ensure I have a safety net but not sure why you think I can get more whilst others can't I understand what you mean and believe me I really get what you are saying and of course your life matters as much as anyone. This thread is about those that CAN afford to help not hard working individuals like yourself who have probably put blood sweat and tears into keeping things going and stand to lose everything, my heart goes out to you. My point was that There are companies and individuals who are awash with money and to some even 1billion is a small drop in the ocean but would make a massive difference to help fight the good fight. I hope you are able to keep your business going and able to support your staff and yourself over the coming months." Thank you kind words I'll be good But genuinely planning to lose everything and live wild in the woods with a cross bow xxx I hope the large corporations will step up without too many strings But I feel some corps are vulnerable and have everymans money in pensions So let's hope the wealthy individuals who siphon of huge amounts pay their way | |||
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"I think that an important distinction has to be made between the average small/medium business employer, and the ultra mega rich. A very large number of small business owners have spent the last few years struggling to keep their companies afloat and their employees in jobs. They have often had to make very difficult decisions. I'm sure that many have being paying a high personal cost, feeling the responsibility for their position. (Yes there are some total twunts as well) But there are also those who are richer than any others have ever been through history. Something like half of the total wealth of the globe is owned by just 20 people. These are the people who literally do not ever need to do anything if they don't want to. In the time it takes them to have a piss, their wealth increases more than a lifetime of an average income. If they spent a thousand pounds a second, they would still end up richer rather than poorer. These are the people that could, and should, buy a hospital or ten. That should pay for keeping people alive through this crisis. That should pay back some part of what they have been given by society. Without the people in all the layers below them, the ones at the top could not exist. Billionaires cannot buy yet another yacht if there is no one to build them a yacht. Multi millionaires cannot dine on fine china plates if there is no one growing the food. With luck, when we come out of this global crisis, people might be a bit more aware and hold to account more the few that profit out of the tears and death of the many." In an ideal world your ideas are spot on But money talks. Always has. They’ll carry on getting richer while small businesses go to the wall.  | |||
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"I think that an important distinction has to be made between the average small/medium business employer, and the ultra mega rich. A very large number of small business owners have spent the last few years struggling to keep their companies afloat and their employees in jobs. They have often had to make very difficult decisions. I'm sure that many have being paying a high personal cost, feeling the responsibility for their position. (Yes there are some total twunts as well) But there are also those who are richer than any others have ever been through history. Something like half of the total wealth of the globe is owned by just 20 people. These are the people who literally do not ever need to do anything if they don't want to. In the time it takes them to have a piss, their wealth increases more than a lifetime of an average income. If they spent a thousand pounds a second, they would still end up richer rather than poorer. These are the people that could, and should, buy a hospital or ten. That should pay for keeping people alive through this crisis. That should pay back some part of what they have been given by society. Without the people in all the layers below them, the ones at the top could not exist. Billionaires cannot buy yet another yacht if there is no one to build them a yacht. Multi millionaires cannot dine on fine china plates if there is no one growing the food. With luck, when we come out of this global crisis, people might be a bit more aware and hold to account more the few that profit out of the tears and death of the many." Which takes me neatly back to the black death Hundreds of years of ' evolution' and we have learnt precisely fuck all | |||
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"Agree 100% with the above.....!! Just thought of an example, not sure how good it is.... Take a company such as JCB (not sure if is still family owned). They make and sell a product that is needed and used. They have employed people and created wealth. If the family has benefitted good on them !! In contrast there are businesses in the City have done very little for society and yet have made billions by just seeing money sloshing around... Not sure how well I have put that ?!!" The Bamford family still own JCB. And now they are attempting to help make parts for ventilators. Where is amazon??? | |||
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"Agree 100% with the above.....!! Just thought of an example, not sure how good it is.... Take a company such as JCB (not sure if is still family owned). They make and sell a product that is needed and used. They have employed people and created wealth. If the family has benefitted good on them !! In contrast there are businesses in the City have done very little for society and yet have made billions by just seeing money sloshing around... Not sure how well I have put that ?!! The Bamford family still own JCB. And now they are attempting to help make parts for ventilators. Where is amazon??? " That says it all.....!! Actually it has brought tears to my eyes....!! | |||
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich" I believe most of the top bracket of rich already do give vast amounts of money to charities and start up projects to better humanity at their own expenses. | |||
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich I believe most of the top bracket of rich already do give vast amounts of money to charities and start up projects to better humanity at their own expenses." But done as a tax dodge no doubt! | |||
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich I believe most of the top bracket of rich already do give vast amounts of money to charities and start up projects to better humanity at their own expenses. But done as a tax dodge no doubt!"
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich I believe most of the top bracket of rich already do give vast amounts of money to charities and start up projects to better humanity at their own expenses. But done as a tax dodge no doubt!
And a drop in the bucket of the insane amount they have."Would you agree that if you were a billionaire and read these posts you may say 'fuck em, no matter what I do it will be wrong or never enough, so I wont bother. Sort of, dammed if I do, dammed if I don't. How much would you think was a fair amount to give away, would it be directly to a charity, direct taxation or just a big fuck off lump of cash to the treasury. Fuck the last one, never see any of it then. | |||
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"To be honest anyone who is a billionaire should have a percentage of their wealth heavily taxed to help the economy. They will still be obscenely rich I believe most of the top bracket of rich already do give vast amounts of money to charities and start up projects to better humanity at their own expenses. But done as a tax dodge no doubt!
And a drop in the bucket of the insane amount they have.
Would you agree that if you were a billionaire and read these posts you may say 'fuck em, no matter what I do it will be wrong or never enough, so I wont bother.
Sort of, dammed if I do, dammed if I don't.
How much would you think was a fair amount to give away, would it be directly to a charity, direct taxation or just a big fuck off lump of cash to the treasury.
Fuck the last one, never see any of it then."I would most definitely not say fuck em Which I'm pretty sure a large amount of them are. However it's relative to the amount of you had 30 billion in funds then 100million or even a billion is really not a lot. However if you had assets worth 30billion but tied up then that amount isn't practical. But you may have resources at your disposal to offer assistance.such as workforce or transport, storage facilities, lab's,fuel,free internet access,free fuel and so on. Look us normal folks regularly contribute to fund raising events if someone earns 200quid a week and chooses to give a tenner to feed starving kid's then a tenner is quite appropriate although it's still a large amount out of someone's wages. If someone has 90billion in the bank A billion or two is probably the equivalent of the Normal person buying a copy of the big issue. So I wouldn't definitely not say fuck em. And I will do what I can at this time. | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune " That pissed me right off when I read that. I bet he's the first one to claim for his staff wages while he flits around on his private island. Twat. | |||
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"Gary Neville is helping NHS staff with his hotels. I believe Roman Abramovich is doing the same. Meanwhile man of the people Richard Branson is asking his staff to take unpaid leave rather than dip in to his £4.2billion fortune I can't believe Branson,.I used to think he was ok" I did too. No longer. The love of money is the root of all evil. | |||
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"Branson is a self serving ego maniac...He likes to be thought of as a "Man of the people" in reality he does nothing for nothing. The very kind of man i would like to think those who award the contracts will remember in future. |Oh and employs thousands?...Yes on short term contracts and minimum wages. He is and always has been an awful man "He also sued the nhs after missing out on a contract. | |||
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