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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon

Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it because it makes people feel safer.


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Not sure everyone says this, they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is anybody even attempting to buy these? It seems pretty futile. Wouldn't one person need a good hundred or so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly"

This is a piss take, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly"

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly"

Because staff in hospitals will be dealing with the most serious cases of the virus. They don't have the option to social distance. They will not only protect the seriously ill but frontline staff too

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


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government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

Quite right.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

The problem is they can cause more harm than good if not handled on properly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wearing a face mask is certainly not an iron-clad guarantee that you won’t get sick – viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles, known as aerosols, can penetrate masks. However, masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone

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If you are likely to be in close contact with someone infected, a mask cuts the chance of the disease being passed on. If you’re showing symptoms of coronavirus, or have been diagnosed, wearing a mask can also protect others. So masks are crucial for health and social care workers looking after patients and are also recommended for family members who need to care for someone who is ill – ideally both the patient and carer should have a mask

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all this you hear on the news is to prevent people rushing to order and use up stocks, they want to keep the masks for medical, police, prison guards etc

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common sense (lets tell the public they dont work, that will stop them for a while.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

They will cause havoc to the skin....real havoc!

Sorry just trying to be light hearted, no offence.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

No idea

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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because staff in hospitals will be dealing with the most serious cases of the virus. They don't have the option to social distance. They will not only protect the seriously ill but frontline staff too"

Staff in hospitals I understand.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

If it makes you as an individual feel better, safer wear one.

I don't personally but each to their own.

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

This...


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Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Shall I send you a face pic?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

Stops you touching your face

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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago

middle earth

They are used by medical professionals constantly, but there is no need. Everyone just needs to top being wanks

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By *hemanwithnoname38Man
over a year ago

Wellington

Face masks used to protect you from breathing in the virus are liquid filled which front line hospital staff are using. They are in short supply globally.

Normal face masks are good at preventing the dispersal of droplets from when the mask wearer coughs but does not protect you from getting it. (Although it does make you less likely to touch your eyes, and face as your conscious of something on your face)

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Stops you touching your face"

A woman at my work wore one for a day, she ended up touching her face more! Mind you she also had a scarf wrapped round it

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By *azzamrMan
over a year ago

Paisley

The basic face mask unfortunately doesn't help much as the virus can get thru it the ones that do work are the ones with filters in them that some people have for dealing with asbestos and such. Even then if you have stubble or a moustache/beard then that would break the seal and render even them useless.

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By *udith55TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Stops you touching your face"

which is why we are washing our hands to reduce the amount of virus we have on our fingers.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Won't know if carrying virus or not so it's really to protect others not themselves I believe.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Won't know if carrying virus or not so it's really to protect others not themselves I believe."

But it can do more harm

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

Imagine a standard dust mask as a piece of chicken wire. Then imagine the virus as a grain of sand being thrown at that chicken wire.

Lots saying that it will “catch” the droplets. The droplets are people’s mucus, not the virus.

Think about sperm. Cum isn’t all sperm

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Imagine a standard dust mask as a piece of chicken wire. Then imagine the virus as a grain of sand being thrown at that chicken wire.

Lots saying that it will “catch” the droplets. The droplets are people’s mucus, not the virus.

Think about sperm. Cum isn’t all sperm"

That’s 30 seconds I’ll never get back....

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

You really need a full face gas mask type affair...for full protection..bet your all kicking yourselves now for not getting into that fetish..eh..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most face masks are used for environmental reasons not for viruses.

Also universal masks won’t fit everyone’s face well enough.

People could also touch there face more and become lazy with hand washing! But the biggest reason is is the the bloody government doesn’t wanna splash out for them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They work if used as designed! Wash, don gloves, apron, face mask, treat patient, discard gloves, apron, face mask, wash!

Wearing a badly fitting face mask round town all day just makes you look a cock!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Because secretly everyone wants to be ryu from streefighter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a guy in my area selling one 3-ply face mask for £5!

It’s fecking ridiculous... they don’t help Joe Bloggs on the street

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

They can help stop you from infecting others.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I've been laughing at people wearing those dust masks you'd use for sanding walls down, or loose fitting face masks with gaps down the sides, what exactly is that going to do?!

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

It makes people feel better cause they feel like they are helping.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

It depends on the type of mask, those that are truly protective are in short supply, but even plain cloth offers a percentage of protection (recent study shows).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never read so much shit until reading on this thread, all the ones who say

*If the mask dont fit properly

*the mask has to fit your face

*the mask has to be fitted to your face

BULLSHIT

the only thing that gets properly fitted to your face are B.A. set face masks and this is mainly for guys with beards, that is also why most B.A. sets are positive pressure so that when we go into a gas filled environment such as when there is a gas escape offshore the positive pressure inside the mask finds any "un-air tight gaps and blows air out preventing gas from getting in, but normally the mask is air tight.

Do not get these mixed up with the masks doctors and surgeons wear in hospital as totally different and the ones doctors and surgeons wear are not individual masks made specific to fit one face

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The standard masks don't have a significant effect on protecting the wearer. They can help to protect others if YOU are infected.

The masks the health service are (or should be) wearing are totally different construction. Sadly most of these come from China so there was a severe shortage....I beleive the situation is now much improved in terms of supply. The logistics of getting them to the right places quickly enough are still not fully solved.

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By *egoMan
over a year ago

Preston

The main entry point is nose and mouth, as that’s actively moving air into the body. For sure your eyes are an entry point but that’s more difficult for the nasties to happen upon.

It also traps nasties exhaled by an infected person wearing one.

Wearing one also limits accidental face touching.

As well as some placebo to make people feel safer, stress weakens the immune system.

Just your friendly medical design engineer, specialising in air filtration.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

As said above the entry points are mouth nose and eyes usually from us touching our face with our hands. So you would probably need to use goggles as well as gloves in conjunction with the mask. But just stay two meters apart or if that’s not possible out of the spray angle of a sneeze or cough and wash your hands regularly and properly especially the fingers tips with soap for at least 20 seconds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As they are mostly made in China, seems like a good way to import a virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone in China wears one and they still caught it. Just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

which just goes to prove wearing a face mask will make you get a lurgey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause they're ugly and stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Masks are all about you not easily spreading your germs not about protecting you.

unless you are wearing a germ warfare grade one

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By *m389Man
over a year ago

Bromley

A bit like washing you hands. If everyone does it then it really helps.

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By *nt1Man
over a year ago

Allington

If you wear a mask out and about it does nothing good. Health care professionals wear them in conjunction with gloves suits and eye protection. There is a specific way to put it on and take it off to dispose of it and the are only worn for very short periods while treating a single patient.

Ive seen people wearing gloves for hours at a time. This does nothing and transmits infection in the same way as if you had bare hands.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban


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Ive seen people wearing gloves for hours at a time. This does nothing and transmits infection in the same way as if you had bare hands. "

And if you are going to wear gloves out and about spare a thought for those of us with latex issues.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Medical Face masks do work, but they are not 100% effective. Compared to say condoms they are far less effective.

Also most people are not medically trained. So their behaviour whilst wearing and removing the mask makes them even less efficient.

Personally I won't wear one as we have isolated ourselves from direct Contact with vulnerable people. It's the vulnerable people and those who have direct contact with them who need the access to the masks and the hand gels.

For most of us we are protecting ourselves from a virus that will have no symptoms or fairly mild symptoms. Save the most protective products for those who really need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not an expert like a few people on here?

But If face masks stop 1 in a 100 they would be worth it , that 1 may well be your mum.or dad or gran

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going to work the other day and as I entered the bus station I could here shouting from the upper concourse.

When I got up there a middle aged woman was berating a young lad (late teens early 20s) for wearing a mask. Really laying in to him, poor lad was clearly distressed.

Couple of people were trying to intervene to no avail.

I walked over, coughed in her face and walked off.

Silly cow stopped screaming then hahahaha

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"I am not an expert like a few people on here?

But If face masks stop 1 in a 100 they would be worth it , that 1 may well be your mum.or dad or gran

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That's the key though using them were they are most effective.

No point wearing one in your car, at a place of work or out walking the dog.

But for short transit situations with lots of people then wearing and removing and washing hands correctly when at your destination will help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Stops the person wearing it from passing to another. Close proximity, special protocol for those in medical roles. They are then binned after a certain time. For ordinary use by others not involved in this protocol there's no point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am not an expert like a few people on here?

But If face masks stop 1 in a 100 they would be worth it , that 1 may well be your mum.or dad or gran

That's the key though using them were they are most effective.

No point wearing one in your car, at a place of work or out walking the dog.

But for short transit situations with lots of people then wearing and removing and washing hands correctly when at your destination will help. "

So you did everything that we have been warned against doing as it is a way of passing it on.

Presume your assessment of the situation showed that the young man's stress justified the potential of giving the lady the virus as you may be a carrier with no symptoms.

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By *m389Man
over a year ago

Bromley

A condom with a hole is still better that no condom.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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I can see the benefit if it stops you from touching your mouth. The way I look at it is that it can’t hurt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s the stop you spreading the virus rather than contracting it.

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

All I know is its stops the wearer spreading it,I've not seen one person wearing them in my town

It doesn't protect you from getting it unless your wearing goggles,a snorkel,full protection suit,latex gloves and steel boots

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Masks are all about you not easily spreading your germs not about protecting you.

unless you are wearing a germ warfare grade one "

No, standard medical grade respirator disposable mask is 98% effective. Surgical mask much less so, only 70% odd.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People buy insurance because of fear to gain comfort against it. Masks are the same

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I bought mine for pollution at work originally. I just upgraded the filter to include viral protection. Sometimes they are purchased as a result of reasoned, practical decisions.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"I am not an expert like a few people on here?

But If face masks stop 1 in a 100 they would be worth it , that 1 may well be your mum.or dad or gran

That's the key though using them were they are most effective.

No point wearing one in your car, at a place of work or out walking the dog.

But for short transit situations with lots of people then wearing and removing and washing hands correctly when at your destination will help.

So you did everything that we have been warned against doing as it is a way of passing it on.

Presume your assessment of the situation showed that the young man's stress justified the potential of giving the lady the virus as you may be a carrier with no symptoms."

I think you replied to the wrong person no man or lady in my comment

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Facemasks DO stop you from smoking: Brucie bonus!

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By *ig daddy 1969Man
over a year ago

manchester


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government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

Very true and you would need a visor for your eyes that needs replacement after twenty mins .

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London


"If you wear a mask out and about it does nothing good. Health care professionals wear them in conjunction with gloves suits and eye protection. There is a specific way to put it on and take it off to dispose of it and the are only worn for very short periods while treating a single patient.

Ive seen people wearing gloves for hours at a time. This does nothing and transmits infection in the same way as if you had bare hands. "

spot on.

seen a woman wearing rubber gloves wiping her itchy nose then handling fruits...

similarly with masks - unless it is FFP3 (rather than a B&Q dust mask), might as well wrap some fishnet stockings over your head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Do not get these mixed up with the masks doctors and surgeons wear in hospital as totally different and the ones doctors and surgeons wear are not individual masks made specific to fit one face"

Then why is my son booked into get one fitted tomorrow (works innNHS) ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


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Do not get these mixed up with the masks doctors and surgeons wear in hospital as totally different and the ones doctors and surgeons wear are not individual masks made specific to fit one face

Then why is my son booked into get one fitted tomorrow (works innNHS) ?"

Masks used in low risk, general surgery ARE the "off the shelf" type, but for stringent control or high risk stuff (like this), then fully fitted, person masks will be used.

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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago

Heaven in the Midlands


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government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

This. And because it's no use wearing mask if you still don't wash your hands properly and go touching contaminated surfaces then touching your nose, eyes, mouth. Same reason gloves being worn constantly don't work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

Spot on...

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By *errymark2020Couple
over a year ago

sutton

The masks worn by surgical staff are to stop them infecting the patient on the table more than the other way round. Also the amount of people wearing ordinary particle filter disposable masks is laughable. These will do nothing I repeat nothing to stop the virus. I could go on but as the panic buying we can see on tv go to show, not many people listen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have never read so much shit until reading on this thread, all the ones who say

*If the mask dont fit properly

*the mask has to fit your face

*the mask has to be fitted to your face

BULLSHIT

the only thing that gets properly fitted to your face are B.A. set face masks and this is mainly for guys with beards, that is also why most B.A. sets are positive pressure so that when we go into a gas filled environment such as when there is a gas escape offshore the positive pressure inside the mask finds any "un-air tight gaps and blows air out preventing gas from getting in, but normally the mask is air tight.

Do not get these mixed up with the masks doctors and surgeons wear in hospital as totally different and the ones doctors and surgeons wear are not individual masks made specific to fit one face"

Your wrong! We had face masks sized and tested for a seal for Ebola a few years ago.

I remember being sprayed with a sugary mist to see if I could taste it! If I couldn’t we had a seal and the mask was fitted correctly! Never actually used it for purpose though which is a good thing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's the ones wearing scarfs. I mean they spend more time pulling them up around their mouths. And do they wash them at home or just keep putting them on. So next time they wear them they breathing in everything that on the scarfs ops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We got loads of masks and suits fetish and safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Laughing my ass off

2 - 3 weeks ago when everyone on this forum were saying masks do not help and are of no use, because at that time the government were also saying this..... guess what???

I was buying them up and also saying that it was better to have one than not have one

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go tey buying a proper mask now, a proper medical one (not a paint spraying one) too late they are all gone

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ohh and did you catch the latest news,

yes you are advised to wear a protective mask

eats your words folks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have 2 wear a mask 4 work and now everyone as brought them. Im having 2 pay double the price 4 them which isn’t good when I have 2 go 2 work as I’m in the food industry.

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Tarka trail

You may be able to google how to make a face mask with what you have around the home.

Taiwan is about the only country that is on top of the virus situation.

Our government should have made it compulsory for every uk citizen to wear one like them. But the experts gave out misinformation that they do not work.

That's because they prob sold all the masks to China along with Canada and Australia.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Laughing my ass off

2 - 3 weeks ago when everyone on this forum were saying masks do not help and are of no use, because at that time the government were also saying this..... guess what???

I was buying them up and also saying that it was better to have one than not have one

.

go tey buying a proper mask now, a proper medical one (not a paint spraying one) too late they are all gone

.

ohh and did you catch the latest news,

yes you are advised to wear a protective mask

eats your words folks."

as per normal with you.... not quite right!

by "masks" they actually mean any cloth object that you can put over your nose and mouth... a bandana would do exactly the same job!

because in some reports they now believe in can also be spread thru breathing or just talking... because the virus can live in the furthest regions behind the nose....

so the "mask" actually isn't protecting you from the virus.... its protecting others from you if you are an asymptomatic carrier!!

oh the irony!

so if you are "hoarding" N95 medical masks.... you are quite frankly being a jackass because those are the ones that the NHS need to deal with these cases! so give them to your local NHS Trust!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bought a dozen FFP3 masks over a month ago when the government was saying they are a waste of time. I am on the high risk group but also I'm a carer so sadly I cant stay in for 12 weeks as I'm looking after myself and someone else.

These masks have with googles and latex gloves been a godsend. I rotate 3 masks a day and each one goes in a bag as soon as it comes off. When I get home I spray each mask with isopropyl which materialises them...in doing so these will last me for ages. So yeah I'm glad I bought them as they are my defense against this virus.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

If everyone wore a simple washable mask like cyists wear it wouldn't stop the virus but it will reduce the scatter distance of the virus as you breath, every single we do can reduce the spread by even a fraction of a percent can save dozens of lives ... Maybe

There was an interesting study which youll find from years ago where a tea towel doubled over is very effective

Get sewing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If everyone wore a simple washable mask like cyists wear it wouldn't stop the virus but it will reduce the scatter distance of the virus as you breath, every single we do can reduce the spread by even a fraction of a percent can save dozens of lives ... Maybe

There was an interesting study which youll find from years ago where a tea towel doubled over is very effective

Get sewing"

I totally agree with this and would go as far as saying...no one should be allowed in confined areas without one.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

We were in Gran canaria in February and there was a shop selling rubber masks and suits

We wondered what they were for but now we know

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"We were in Gran canaria in February and there was a shop selling rubber masks and suits

We wondered what they were for but now we know "

Haha

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By *ikingpairCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks.

"

But to go into the shop..the chemist...the doctors surgery?

Or any confined space were other people are is madness not to wear one if you have one...

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Got Some FFP3 masks on order as it looks like they are changing tact.

I have a couple of JSP P3 respirators to tide me over but they are a little bit overkill for a trip to the shops.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got Some FFP3 masks on order as it looks like they are changing tact.

I have a couple of JSP P3 respirators to tide me over but they are a little bit overkill for a trip to the shops.

"

Look for some isopropyl to clean them after every use...its quick drying 99.9 alcohol. Will cost you around thirty quid but will extend the life of each mask for ages and the are sterile each use

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I hope there won’t be an official change in direction regarding use of masks for the general public .

A sudden rush for suitable PPE will place massive pressure on the current supply chain, which is in the process of making sure front line health professionals have what they need now and in the future weeks/months .

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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon


"Laughing my ass off

2 - 3 weeks ago when everyone on this forum were saying masks do not help and are of no use, because at that time the government were also saying this..... guess what???

I was buying them up and also saying that it was better to have one than not have one

.

go tey buying a proper mask now, a proper medical one (not a paint spraying one) too late they are all gone

.

ohh and did you catch the latest news,

yes you are advised to wear a protective mask

eats your words folks.

as per normal with you.... not quite right!

by "masks" they actually mean any cloth object that you can put over your nose and mouth... a bandana would do exactly the same job!

because in some reports they now believe in can also be spread thru breathing or just talking... because the virus can live in the furthest regions behind the nose....

so the "mask" actually isn't protecting you from the virus.... its protecting others from you if you are an asymptomatic carrier!!

oh the irony!

so if you are "hoarding" N95 medical masks.... you are quite frankly being a jackass because those are the ones that the NHS need to deal with these cases! so give them to your local NHS Trust!!!!"

Well said. Won’t stop him laughing his arse off though.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Laughing my ass off

2 - 3 weeks ago when everyone on this forum were saying masks do not help and are of no use, because at that time the government were also saying this..... guess what???

I was buying them up and also saying that it was better to have one than not have one

.

go tey buying a proper mask now, a proper medical one (not a paint spraying one) too late they are all gone

.

ohh and did you catch the latest news,

yes you are advised to wear a protective mask

eats your words folks.

as per normal with you.... not quite right!

by "masks" they actually mean any cloth object that you can put over your nose and mouth... a bandana would do exactly the same job!

because in some reports they now believe in can also be spread thru breathing or just talking... because the virus can live in the furthest regions behind the nose....

so the "mask" actually isn't protecting you from the virus.... its protecting others from you if you are an asymptomatic carrier!!

oh the irony!

so if you are "hoarding" N95 medical masks.... you are quite frankly being a jackass because those are the ones that the NHS need to deal with these cases! so give them to your local NHS Trust!!!!

Well said. Won’t stop him laughing his arse off though. "

It's unlikely the NHS would use the masks you can buy they have to be medical approved and sterile packed. Most are not.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks.

This "

Is there any documented evidence they don't work ?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

They stop you sticking your fingers up your nose. That's about it.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"They stop you sticking your fingers up your nose. That's about it."

That's documented evidence then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had loads in my workshop, I gave most of them to the NHS nurse across the road who shared them out with her colleagues, I did keep some and now I'm glad I did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask "

Taking it on and off would contaminate it...once on why remove it for a short journey?...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask

Taking it on and off would contaminate it...once on why remove it for a short journey?..."

If it is a medical grade mask it’s useless after 2 hours anyways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask

Taking it on and off would contaminate it...once on why remove it for a short journey?...

If it is a medical grade mask it’s useless after 2 hours anyways "

You asked a question and I give a suggestion why...how the fuck do I know what grade it is

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By *ooskiMan
over a year ago

south coast

What cracks me up is the amount of people walking around with them covering the mouth and not the nose......

Wtf....really

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over a year ago


"What cracks me up is the amount of people walking around with them covering the mouth and not the nose......

Wtf....really"

Just been shopping and seen a few, we had to smile touching everything then taking it off in their car.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"What cracks me up is the amount of people walking around with them covering the mouth and not the nose......

Wtf....reallyJust been shopping and seen a few, we had to smile touching everything then taking it off in their car. "

Exactly this

No benefit to wearing them, and in most cases may actually encourage spread of the virus

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"I bought a dozen FFP3 masks over a month ago when the government was saying they are a waste of time. I am on the high risk group but also I'm a carer so sadly I cant stay in for 12 weeks as I'm looking after myself and someone else.

These masks have with googles and latex gloves been a godsend. I rotate 3 masks a day and each one goes in a bag as soon as it comes off. When I get home I spray each mask with isopropyl which materialises them...in doing so these will last me for ages. So yeah I'm glad I bought them as they are my defense against this virus. "

If you don't mind me asking. After you have sprayed them with isopropyl (I have 90% surgical spirit) how do you dry then store them? Thanks.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Got Some FFP3 masks on order as it looks like they are changing tact.

I have a couple of JSP P3 respirators to tide me over but they are a little bit overkill for a trip to the shops.

Look for some isopropyl to clean them after every use...its quick drying 99.9 alcohol. Will cost you around thirty quid but will extend the life of each mask for ages and the are sterile each use "

I have a steam cleaner. Less effort but thanks for the tip.

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By *ooskiMan
over a year ago

south coast


"What cracks me up is the amount of people walking around with them covering the mouth and not the nose......

Wtf....reallyJust been shopping and seen a few, we had to smile touching everything then taking it off in their car. "

Lol exactly......is it randomness, just general have no idea.....or hate to say it.....just plain thick

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

There is actually an investigation about this now.. they are about to possibly change the advice regarding masks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Because they're all secretly kinky and they can now hide in plain sight

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By *eanne VegasTV/TS
over a year ago

tameside

A face mask won't stop you catching the virus it.ll help people with it from spreading it . Washing your hands as often as possible will help as most pick it up of surfaces. Just keep your distance and stay safe everyone. X

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By *pal2Man
over a year ago

cumbria

A friend is a doctor on the frontline and should change his mask after ever patient but has to use the same mask all day due to shortages. The NHS werent promoting the public wearing masks at first due to wanting them for the NHS. An Italian study has said that the virus can be transmitted on the air in excess of 10 metres in some conditions.

My doctor friend has told me I MUST wear a mask whilst out and i value his opinion. I must admit I wasnt as bothered about wearing a mask before speaking to him but to each his own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This may be hard for some people to understand but I wear a face mask so if I have the virus but don't know it yet I don't pass it on.

I wear it to protect others not myself.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..

I would wear one to protect me from myself - I touch my face a lot and this would stop me.

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By *lueMan69Man
over a year ago

london

Three studies, one conducted by Chinese scientists another by American scientists, the third in Italy, have shown that between 60-80% of people infected show mild to no symptoms of COVID-19.

These studies have also shown that around 70-80% of transmissions result from this group. Without large scale testing face masks are an important measure in preventing the spread of the virus. The key here is large scale testing.

With all that said masks must be worn correctly, we also need a larger supply of them in the UK, as people working on the front line are at a greater risk and should be prioritised.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"This may be hard for some people to understand but I wear a face mask so if I have the virus but don't know it yet I don't pass it on.

I wear it to protect others not myself."

They're a potential 2 way effective shield and I would similarly want to prevent others from being infected by me, as its primary benefit.

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By *lueTomatoMan
over a year ago

Tooting


"A friend is a doctor on the frontline and should change his mask after ever patient but has to use the same mask all day due to shortages. The NHS werent promoting the public wearing masks at first due to wanting them for the NHS. An Italian study has said that the virus can be transmitted on the air in excess of 10 metres in some conditions.

My doctor friend has told me I MUST wear a mask whilst out and i value his opinion. I must admit I wasnt as bothered about wearing a mask before speaking to him but to each his own."

He should be changing mask to reduce the risk of transfering TO patients, If he is undertaking Aerosol generated procedures (e.g. Intubation or tracheotomies) then he should wear an FFP3 Mask, which are in shorter supply for his protection covered by a surgical mask he should change in between for patient protection.

You only need to wear a mask if you come into a contact (2 Metres) from a confirmed/suspected person, though would be rendered ineffective (and actually a further risk to yourself) after touching the mask, contaminating the mask or removing the mask (including putting on your neck or covering with a scarf/clothing or anything else)

That being said guidance is continually changing and there are niche (or at least conflicting) scenarios where you may benefit from doing the "wrong" thing....

TL:DR - Masks are good if you are using them in the correct procedure and changing them frequently (e.g. healthcare settings), but walking around with them on the street is generally worse - though admitedly it is probably better to wear a contaminated mask than nothing if someone was to cough in your face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m fortunate/ unfortunate to have done 10 years in the military doing NBC training, all the eating and drinking drills, decontamination and survival skills needed to survive nuclear, biological and chemical attack and as a civilian I’ve done 35 years in the chemical industry working with some very very toxic chemicals. Seeing the performance of some in the community it comes as no surprise how this virus is spreading. My advice to people is this. Treat your hands as your signed death certificate if you don’t clean them before touching your mouth, nose, eyes or face. Avoid all other humans at least 2 metres away and wash EVERYTHING before opening, eating or using.

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By *assanova999Man
over a year ago

Amsterdam, Cap d'Agde

Very useful information for summer

https://news.expats.cz/weekly-czech-news/under-czech-coronavirus-regulations-even-nudists-must-wear-face-masks-czech-police/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A face mask won't stop you catching the virus it.ll help people with it from spreading it . Washing your hands as often as possible will help as most pick it up of surfaces. Just keep your distance and stay safe everyone. X"

Its probably one of the highest rates of infection ( living on surfaces) will only be airborne for minutes, but can live and transmit on surfaces for up to 36 hrs. Leave outdoor shoes outside, wash clothes and shower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Bring nothing from communal outside areas into the home. Michelle does the shop, strips off in the porch and goes in the shower. Wearing mask and gloves I put her clothes in the wash, wash the packs of food then wash myself. Sounds mad? Maybe, how much do you want to live?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes. Bring nothing from communal outside areas into the home. Michelle does the shop, strips off in the porch and goes in the shower. Wearing mask and gloves I put her clothes in the wash, wash the packs of food then wash myself. Sounds mad? Maybe, how much do you want to live? "

Yes I’ve started washing food packages aswell. Tins and other non perishable items.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

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By *pal2Man
over a year ago

cumbria


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes? "

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes"

The face masks people wear on the street are useless: the virus is small enough to get through. So, you're walking around all day, adjusting a virus infected face mask, touching your face and eyes, go home and plonk the virus laden mask onto a surface transferring it into your home.

Mask give people a false sense of security in lieu of nothing else.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes

The face masks people wear on the street are useless: the virus is small enough to get through. So, you're walking around all day, adjusting a virus infected face mask, touching your face and eyes, go home and plonk the virus laden mask onto a surface transferring it into your home.

Mask give people a false sense of security in lieu of nothing else. "

,

that's pretty much what a virologist has just said

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes

The face masks people wear on the street are useless: the virus is small enough to get through. So, you're walking around all day, adjusting a virus infected face mask, touching your face and eyes, go home and plonk the virus laden mask onto a surface transferring it into your home.

Mask give people a false sense of security in lieu of nothing else. ,

that's pretty much what a virologist has just said"

I have a PhD is seeing the bleeding obvious.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes

The face masks people wear on the street are useless: the virus is small enough to get through. So, you're walking around all day, adjusting a virus infected face mask, touching your face and eyes, go home and plonk the virus laden mask onto a surface transferring it into your home.

Mask give people a false sense of security in lieu of nothing else. ,

that's pretty much what a virologist has just said

I have a PhD is seeing the bleeding obvious. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought a face mask would help to prevent spreading the virus if the wearer coughs or sneazes?

Yes but it works both ways and also helps protect the wearer if someone else coughs or sneezes

The face masks people wear on the street are useless: the virus is small enough to get through. So, you're walking around all day, adjusting a virus infected face mask, touching your face and eyes, go home and plonk the virus laden mask onto a surface transferring it into your home.

Mask give people a false sense of security in lieu of nothing else. ,

that's pretty much what a virologist has just said

I have a PhD is seeing the bleeding obvious. "

I've got one of them PhD's too and the face masks and in my humble opinion a combination of both works well

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

They do protect.. Covid 19 is airborne. Coughing.. Sneezing even speaking produces droplets in the air.. Anybody wearing a N95 respirator will have a barrier between these droplets hence less chance of catching covid 19.. This false rumour that face masks don't work was spread by the WHO would you believe because they want to ensure frontline health care workers have as much ppe as possible.. If they said face masks work everybody would scramble out to buy them up leaving a shortage.. They do work.. Buy 1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them?

They do protect.. Covid 19 is airborne. Coughing.. Sneezing even speaking produces droplets in the air.. Anybody wearing a N95 respirator will have a barrier between these droplets hence less chance of catching covid 19.. This false rumour that face masks don't work was spread by the WHO would you believe because they want to ensure frontline health care workers have as much ppe as possible.. If they said face masks work everybody would scramble out to buy them up leaving a shortage.. They do work.. Buy 1"

I agree but you need more then 1

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them?

They do protect.. Covid 19 is airborne. Coughing.. Sneezing even speaking produces droplets in the air.. Anybody wearing a N95 respirator will have a barrier between these droplets hence less chance of catching covid 19.. This false rumour that face masks don't work was spread by the WHO would you believe because they want to ensure frontline health care workers have as much ppe as possible.. If they said face masks work everybody would scramble out to buy them up leaving a shortage.. They do work.. Buy 1

I agree but you need more then 1 "

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I suspect this week you will see a lot more people wearing them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suspect this week you will see a lot more people wearing them.

"

Can you still get FFP3's?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I suspect this week you will see a lot more people wearing them.

"

Certainly, but then to be fair we shouldn’t really be seeing too many people out and about, we’re all supposed to be staying inside

This is now the real threat to the lockdown - “oh it’s ok I can go out I have mask”

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I suspect this week you will see a lot more people wearing them.

Certainly, but then to be fair we shouldn’t really be seeing too many people out and about, we’re all supposed to be staying inside

This is now the real threat to the lockdown - “oh it’s ok I can go out I have mask”

"

To misquote the Bard, therein lies the rub!

People will venture out thinking they're safe. In the states they're telling people to wear bandanas etc when out.

This will drag on because the politicians and doctors can't get their act together.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I suspect this week you will see a lot more people wearing them.

Certainly, but then to be fair we shouldn’t really be seeing too many people out and about, we’re all supposed to be staying inside

This is now the real threat to the lockdown - “oh it’s ok I can go out I have mask”

"

Yup.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Bet they are in Poundland after this shit ...probably 5 for a pound

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

WHO have completed the study and have confirmed that the advice on face masks will remain the same - medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers, not the general public.

Only two groups of people should wear protective masks, those who are:

sick and showing symptoms

caring for people suspected to have the coronavirus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Lol was only when i got to the second post that I realised you didn’t mean carnival masks haha, one track mind!

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By *utu147Woman
over a year ago

porthcawl

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

propery fitted maks will help, BUT they have to be a perfect fit and changed at regular intervals, otherwise they are of little use, however wearing one does protect others from catching your germs as it slows the spread from you. Which is why you see people in Asia wearing them

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By *oupleforfun31Couple
over a year ago

Bradford


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

Because people nowadays are sheep, they see someone wearing one and feel the need to copy.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

So those of you wearing face masks how are you taking them off and where are you disposing of them? Social media is awash with photos of disguarded

facemasks and gloves littering streets. You can guarantee many people do not have a clue about correct doffing and disposal of PPE so in turn contaminating themselves and spreading infection.

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By *eachPreacherMan
over a year ago

Kent/London


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly"

Medical masks are meant to protect patients, not the hospital staff who wear them. If you're sick from COVID-19 then the last thing you need is a unknowingly sick doctor spreading another illness to you.

They can be worn if you're infected and at home to help prevent the spread to the people who live with you, but otherwise the public shouldn't really be buying them.

Basically if you want protection, stay at home. Or just wear a full hazard suit when going shopping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because there are strains of this virus that are airborne and covid is too! It’s not rocket science! The wind can carry droplets a long way! Basic science!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Medical masks are meant to protect patients, not the hospital staff who wear them. If you're sick from COVID-19 then the last thing you need is a unknowingly sick doctor spreading another illness to you.

They can be worn if you're infected and at home to help prevent the spread to the people who live with you, but otherwise the public shouldn't really be buying them.

Basically if you want protection, stay at home. Or just wear a full hazard suit when going shopping."

Are you a medic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A contagious patient should wear a surgical mask as soon as contagion is suspected.

In Europe, for caregivers, it is necessary to wear a respirator of at least class FFP2 or FFP3 for maximum filtration of particles and aerosols when caring for a patient who is infected or suspected of being so.

In the United States, the N95 respirator filters 95% of airborne particles, and can even filter out bacteria and viruses, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. So for caregivers, it is necessary to wear a respirator of class N, R or P.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask "

Same reason they wear hi-viz whilst driving. "ooh look what I got!"

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Some of the countries coming out of lockdown are making it law that you wear face masks while shopping and travelling on public transport

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Two possible reasons..

First is that should you have it, you are protecting others from mist and spit spray aerosols while you are around otherd by containing it.

A second reason is that a lot of emphasis has been placed on transmission by contacting infected surfaces.

Wearing a mask will prevent you spraying surfaces touched by others with your contaminated lung, throat or mouth mucus.

There is also the way it might transmit in the wild, the theory being bat population.

It has shown in studies that pathogens might stick to the hosts fur in order that another might rub against it and it transfers to be then inhaled or taking in by grooming itself or its mate.

The virus has been claimed to be 'sticky' whether due to static or its membrane which means some protection may be gained by it sticking to the material whether scarf or mask on its inbound route to your lungs.

If it stuck to a defensive outer layer, it may prevent entry into the respiritory system and thus be a way of protection.

This advice comes from studies in Asia where masks are used daily and up to t0% reduction in flu cases, flu is also a coronavirus so therefore possible a similar outcome can be acieved.

Scarf or mask, it doesnt really matter. Jyst something that gives the virus a chance to hit a barrier.

Wash it regulary and be careful of how it is reused as it may be put on the wrong way and then virus sucked back out and into oneself.

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By *eachPreacherMan
over a year ago

Kent/London


"I would rather have one, than be without one

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Medical masks are meant to protect patients, not the hospital staff who wear them. If you're sick from COVID-19 then the last thing you need is a unknowingly sick doctor spreading another illness to you.

They can be worn if you're infected and at home to help prevent the spread to the people who live with you, but otherwise the public shouldn't really be buying them.

Basically if you want protection, stay at home. Or just wear a full hazard suit when going shopping.

Are you a medic? "

I work at a hospital.

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By *hic EventsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge

Wearing one is to protect other people, especially if you are A-symptomatic!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Masks can be useful to stop the spread of the virus, however you need to make sure they fit properly. Facial hair will render the mask useless, as well as using the wrong type. There are several different grades of PPE for breathing, also there are time limits on how long you can wear them.

But you need to protect your eyes, as the virus can enter through them.

The best thing to wear is an NBC gas mask, or air fed RPE mask. They are expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone says they don’t protect so why are so many people wearing them? "

At this stage would take every possible precautions to try stopping spreading.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

The key is using them were they are most effective.

No point wearing one in your car, at a place of work or out walking the dog.

But for short transit situations with lots of people then wearing and removing and washing hands correctly when at your destination will help.

Clearly, the evidence is moving to that it will also stop carriers passing it on.

But at the moment the people who need them most are the medical community then vulnerable citizens.

People like myself should be last in the queue and certainly should not be stockpiling them.

The only end game to this is for vulnerable people to avoid the disease and everyone else to get it.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Even a 20% reduction in risk is a lot of saved lives

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/disaster-medicine-and-public-health-preparedness/article/testing-the-efficacy-of-homemade-masks-would-they-protect-in-an-influenza-pandemic/0921A05A69A9419C862FA2F35F819D55/core-reader

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

But never wear it twice !!!

Wash and wear, wash and wear

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask "

Perhaps they are disqualified drivers avoiding being identified by the feds ..

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"It does make me wonder why some people are driving around in the car on their own wearing a mask "

Simple

If you put a mask on to go into one shop then take it off to get in your car then throw it away or bag it for washing

If your going to another shop then it's better to keep wearing it while driving there

Stay home stay safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is right, they dont work. I am not sure why they have it on.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Not sure y

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"That is right, they dont work. I am not sure why they have it on."

If you have the virus it will help prevent spreading it. Also if someone coughs that has it those small particles can stay airborne upto 3 hours, walk through that area without a mask and there is a risk,less likely if your mouth and nose is covered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same as wearing a condom in my eyes not 100% safe but way less chance of catching something if one is worn, Again like condom make sure it a good quality and fits well

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Scientists, not joe smiths down the road, has discovered how Covid-19 is easily spread. An asymptomatic person goes shopping or for thier daily exercise, walks into an enclosed or poorly ventilated room. General breathing and talking can spread a cloud of potential virus across the room 2 metres. Remember you can't see viruses. It can linger in enclosed spaces for upto 3 hrs (public transportation and small shops for example. Especially air con and central heated rooms) then it can drop on to shared surfaces. Viruses survive on porous materials like fabric for upto 24 hrs and hard surfaces like plastic for 72 hrs. Even worst, if someone sneezes or coughs, it can travel even further than 2 metres. Some sneezing and even shouting can send viruses in a cloud formation upto 7 metres. Then lands on shared surfaces. You either walk into it or touch the surface... Do you still not want to wear a mask? Obviously homemade, some builders masks are not as effective as surgical grade 2 or N95 or N98. Meticulous hand and even body hygiene is incorporated like covering your hair when you go out shopping then immediately washing yourself especially hands thoroughly and your clothes when you get home. Catch it, bin it, get rid of tissues in sealed bags. Don't be like some inconsiderate people in America dumping their latex gloves and wipes in the supermarket carpark and in the shops. Its about doing everything collectively is the only way to prevent spread. There's so many things you need to know and action to reduce infection control. Most important thing is just stay at home to reduce transmission and take necessary precautions when shopping for food which really should be infrequent. Don't get me started about famillies going out in big numbers and hogging a path!! I stop now STAY SAFE STAY AT HOME... next two weeks will probably be the most difficult time for nhs as long as people are following the lockdown rules. Help our community, love ones and nhs fight this virus by just doing the right thing. (I'm still getting messages about meeting in person which is another sore subject of mine)

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By *amagustaMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I wear mask when I go out for buying food.

Due to lack of mask on the market I started sewing of mine own mask from cotton fabric.

I change everyday and wash regularly .

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By *asmin999jmTV/TS
over a year ago

wakefield

A mask will provide some protection if used correctly.

The gov fuxked up,

They did not have enough.. And what they had they need for NHS.

So they play down the usefulness

And WE ALL BELIVE THEM... .......

Ww watch the news and point at the tv when every other country in the world shows people wearing them.

And we go, wow, why are they wearing masks!!!!!!!!!

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA


"A mask will provide some protection if used correctly.

The gov fuxked up,

They did not have enough.. And what they had they need for NHS.

So they play down the usefulness

And WE ALL BELIVE THEM... .......

Ww watch the news and point at the tv when every other country in the world shows people wearing them.

And we go, wow, why are they wearing masks!!!!!!!!!

"

And the advice from WHO at the time was they offer no protection. So which advice should they have taken?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

WHO have completed the study and have confirmed that the advice on face masks will remain the same - medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers, not the general public.

Only two groups of people should wear protective masks, those who are:

sick and showing symptoms

caring for people suspected to have the coronavirus

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

The country that I am in now, during this lockdown period (4th week now), wearing face mask is compulsory for those going out of their house.

Those who don't wont be allowed to enter any shops and if caught by the police, will be advised to drive back home.

We believe in being proactive and protect ourselves rather than depending on the sick to wear it.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1435

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london


"

government said a few weeks ago they did not work

then they said - stop buying them so they can be free'd up for doctors/nurses & medical practises

so? if they dont work, why are they needed so badly

Because they have to be used in a specific manner to avoid you contaminating yourself and they need to be changed after a very specific periods of time. There are very specific protocols as to their use, also medical staff use them when they are tending to people with the virus.

Just wearing them while you walk down to the shops won't really help prevent anything other than waste valuable masks."

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If someone near you coughs or sneezes you have a better chance with a mask than without a mask although the virus is so small you wouldn't have a 100% chance but you'd have a better chance.

The mask helps you to remember not to touch your face while you are out shopping or walking etc ....

I like the plastic shield idea and have one coming. At present I wear a lined cycling mask or my home made mask. Masks protect the public from me too.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

The World Heath Organisation advises against it. It of course carries risks.

They say

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection.

Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.

Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.

If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.

Before putting on a mask, clean hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.

Cover mouth and nose with mask and make sure there are no gaps between your face and the mask.

Avoid touching the mask while using it; if you do, clean your hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.

Replace the mask with a new one as soon as it is damp and do not re-use single-use masks.

To remove the mask: remove it from behind (do not touch the front of mask); discard immediately in a closed bin; clean hands with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.

People in reality people are putting non sterile and probably manky and contaminated bits of cloth directly adjacent to their nasal cavity and mouth; the perfect spot to ingest those pesky pathogens.

The WHO reviewed it's position on this recently (6 days ago) and their advice is still the same. In particular they state the practice has "uncertainties and critical risks".

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

South Korea has made it compulsory to wear them while out. They have said while it doesnt stop it.. that it does help with lowering transmission and they are doing well with it there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"South Korea has made it compulsory to wear them while out. They have said while it doesnt stop it.. that it does help with lowering transmission and they are doing well with it there "

Totally agree and this should be part of any exit plan here...

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