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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

To see if you are holding a distance from people, they are planning to do it on only one network to test it out cos of the virus. I forgot which one, isnt this like big brother to gather as much info as they can? There are few faults with the idea, what if you dont take your phone for example then it would be quite hard to impose there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What’s your source please ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes turn your phone off simples

Back on when you need it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you not think that we are already spies on through our devices anyway?

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

Jheeeze the government can monitor your every move through your phone whether it's on or off monitor every conversation.

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

This was discussed on Question Time the other night.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Its o2 and they are not tracking individual data.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"To see if you are holding a distance from people, they are planning to do it on only one network to test it out cos of the virus. I forgot which one, isnt this like big brother to gather as much info as they can? There are few faults with the idea, what if you dont take your phone for example then it would be quite hard to impose there."

Yeah, it would be easy to leave your phone at home but the govt can also legislate to make it an offence to avoid detection. You can also be guaranteed they will be using stingrays and all information held by public and private entities to cross reference. Ask yourself what is more important at this stage.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you making up nonsense Shag?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What’s your source please ?"
It was on question time yesterday there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah was watching sky news last night they're wanting aggregate data from O2 to see if people are sticking to the social distancing or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is how China was able to arrest the spread of C-19, if it saved lives I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes turn your phone off simples

Back on when you need it "
That is right

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By *unandfriendship4uMan
over a year ago

sheffield

As long as there is a battery in your phone you are sending gprs.

Also smart watches do the same.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you not think that we are already spies on through our devices anyway? "
Yes I do and yes we are already being spied on our phones in one way or another as well through apps too that we are using.

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By *ogerBottomsMan
over a year ago

Aberdare

Nobody cares where you are, OP. Stop trying to frighten people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So my phone needs to stay 6 feet from the other o2 phone in the house then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This was discussed on Question Time the other night. "
That is right it was that too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its o2 and they are not tracking individual data. "
Yes that was the network I meant there

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By *odgerMooreMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

I believe as long as you line your hat with tinfoil then they can’t control your mind!! Anyone can track me anytime and anywhere - I don’t care - they will know who i associate with - who i call - what i google ( that will raise a few eyebrows- who knew donkeys could do that!?) I just don’t care - freedom is not caring what other people do or think and being happy - as long as you do no harm I have no issue what you do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes turn your phone off simples

Back on when you need it "

If it goes the same way as the model china is using...you will not be able to move without showing the green scan code on your phone. It changes from red to amber and green. Stretch borders and public transport will not let you pass with out it being green...so no phone no movement.

And yes it is being looked at to use here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My grandma is fooked then Lol

All bollox

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan
over a year ago

Lincoln

Even if this was true, what's the problem? The government can know that I'm only at home, work, or getting shopping if they REALLY want

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Yeah was watching sky news last night they're wanting aggregate data from O2 to see if people are sticking to the social distancing or not "

thank you......

they are not asking for individual data, they are asking for group data to see if people are basically adhering to the "self isolation" advisory... and the correlation to see if it helping to contain the spread....

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"To see if you are holding a distance from people, they are planning to do it on only one network to test it out cos of the virus. I forgot which one, isnt this like big brother to gather as much info as they can? There are few faults with the idea, what if you dont take your phone for example then it would be quite hard to impose there."

Great idea!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love the Isle of Man government

Just locked up their first person for failing to self isolate

3 months locked up and £10000 fine should do the trick

See bbc news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love the Isle of Man government

Just locked up their first person for failing to self isolate

3 months locked up and £10000 fine should do the trick

See bbc news "

Did he get solitary confinement?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To see if you are holding a distance from people, they are planning to do it on only one network to test it out cos of the virus. I forgot which one, isnt this like big brother to gather as much info as they can? There are few faults with the idea, what if you dont take your phone for example then it would be quite hard to impose there."
omg do you spend your life paying attention to all this ballocks turn your phone off if it worries you I'm sick of it all, how the fcuk are they going to collect on fines if none of us are earning any money tell me that, i haven't had any work for weeks and none on the horizon they can track me all they like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love the Isle of Man government

Just locked up their first person for failing to self isolate

3 months locked up and £10000 fine should do the trick

See bbc news

Did he get solitary confinement? "

Ha there’s only a few cells there so be interesting how many get locked up

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Turn your location off.

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By *unandfriendship4uMan
over a year ago

sheffield

That's my input.I'm a surveillance profesionsl. So the decision is yours. However if your worried and up to no good. The ball is in your court xc

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

That's OK, they can track me. They will be bored though, I don't do anything even remotely exciting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Turn your location off. "

Your not getting it are you...they are modelling china where without the app on your phone you cant move.

I have a feeling this will be first introduced for the london underground...which is good but like all things it's a fine line on your privacy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To see if you are holding a distance from people, they are planning to do it on only one network to test it out cos of the virus. I forgot which one, isnt this like big brother to gather as much info as they can? There are few faults with the idea, what if you dont take your phone for example then it would be quite hard to impose there."

Also recent passports and driver licence can be tracked using GPS. But I'm sure only accurate to around 10ft or so, so not sure how that'll help see how far you are from person.. It'll be more for when we go on lockdown that it'll be useful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes turn your phone off simples

Back on when you need it "

Still be tracked when switched off..

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By *rincessvenusCouple
over a year ago

Hull

they trac all our phones evry hour of every day

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Simple ..... leave you phone at home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

This has been being used in South Korea for weeks now.

The unintended consequences have involved people being outed for visits to massage parlours and quite a few affairs. However there is not much objection, as it meant for the good of all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good tracking everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good tracking everyone "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fab "single" are now all disposing of their phones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The fab "single" are now all disposing of their phones "

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Dear god... I’ll say again... dear god. Is there a head slapping emoji available... there is a difference between can do it and will do it... how many phones ? How much information needs to be processed to do it?

Banging my head on my desk as I type this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They’ll do what they need to do. Doesn’t bother me.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"My grandma is fooked then Lol

All bollox "

Me too, can they track a 15yr old Nokia on P A Y G ?

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"My grandma is fooked then Lol

All bollox

Me too, can they track a 15yr old Nokia on P A Y G ? "

If the phone connects to a cellular tower, then the answer is yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My grandma is fooked then Lol

All bollox

Me too, can they track a 15yr old Nokia on P A Y G ? "

Well you may be fooked then for travel...but you should be self isolating anyhow

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Google / Apple the US & UK governments have been spying / tracking / gathering info for years.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

They don't need to do this because I can tell them that only about 1% of people are keeping social distance just from going for a walk to the shops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They don't need to do this because I can tell them that only about 1% of people are keeping social distance just from going for a walk to the shops "
lol omg you rule breaker you panic buying again

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

The government response to date has been "don't go out!!!!" (unless you want to of course) and "sing a song whilst washing your hands!!!"

These butt-nuggets tracking me on my phone is not worrying in the slightest

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"They don't need to do this because I can tell them that only about 1% of people are keeping social distance just from going for a walk to the shops lol omg you rule breaker you panic buying again "

Yep, I panic bought a loaf and a pack of hot cross buns. It cist me £5000 but it was worth it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am going to bulk buy sim cards and destroy them like in the movies so they can't track us swingers lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html"

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked.

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By *azzamrMan
over a year ago

Paisley

Not bothered I dont have a phone didnt need one growing up dont need one now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Throwing away my mobile when I retired was a good idea then. Mind you I am isolating so will it matter?

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By *inkydiscreet91Man
over a year ago

London


"Jheeeze the government can monitor your every move through your phone whether it's on or off monitor every conversation. "

your phone is a mini computer, what you delete is never deleted.. your always been tracked, big companies share your information for profit values think last month virgin shared all there porn brownswers hahaha

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By *inkydiscreet91Man
over a year ago

London


"Not bothered I dont have a phone didnt need one growing up dont need one now"

loooool you still on the pc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked. "

It can be tracked same as a passport or drivers licence. As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off...

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By *azzamrMan
over a year ago

Paisley

Yep and not even one of those new fancy laptop things, a good old fashioned desktop with windows 3.1 and Netscape navigator

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked.

It can be tracked same as a passport or drivers licence. As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off... "

Passports and drivers license cards may well have RFID chips in them, but how powerful do you think the readers will have to be for someone to be able to track you as you move along roads and paths etc?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


" As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off... "

I never take my passport or driving licence out with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked.

It can be tracked same as a passport or drivers licence. As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off... "

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I'm laughing then, I've never had a passport and I still have my paper driving licence.....!!

Eva

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked.

It can be tracked same as a passport or drivers licence. As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off...

Passports and drivers license cards may well have RFID chips in them, but how powerful do you think the readers will have to be for someone to be able to track you as you move along roads and paths etc?"

I believe that in general, they are accurate to around 10ft, and I think, phones etc isn't much better.

I agree that in real terms, it won't be realistic to track everyone. Although if/when an actual curfew is in place is when it would be a useful tool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you want to know your phone can be tracked when it off read this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/13/gps-can-spy-on-you-even-when-you-turn-it-off.html

Having read the article, it says your phone can still be tracked if you turn off your GPS location, as it uses tracking apps surreptitiously downloaded through other apps to collect sensor data such as acceleration, gyroscope and magnetometer, which is used to orientate your phone, to work out which routes you are taking. It is hard to pinpoint your location in a place such as Manhattan as it is a grid-based city, but places with distinctive shaped roads are easier to work out.

Nowhere does it say that if you turn off your phone it can still be tracked.

It can be tracked same as a passport or drivers licence. As far as I'm aware, you can't switch passport or license on and off...

Passports and drivers license cards may well have RFID chips in them, but how powerful do you think the readers will have to be for someone to be able to track you as you move along roads and paths etc?

I believe that in general, they are accurate to around 10ft, and I think, phones etc isn't much better.

I agree that in real terms, it won't be realistic to track everyone. Although if/when an actual curfew is in place is when it would be a useful tool. "

There are roughly 1.7M postcodes in the UK, to keep track of people presumably you'd need at least that number of readers; I don't think there's much to worry about...

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