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"Reports no new cases... Question is do you believe them?" Fuck no. You know they have death yards full of burnt bodies. | |||
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"Reports no new cases... Question is do you believe them?" Based on the students I liaise with daily, I don't believe it for a minute. | |||
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"Fair enough that you believe China authorities are not always forthcoming with information but I still don’t see what it is they would stand to benefit or gain from not providing factual Information about there being no new reported cases ... Anyone have any suggestions on why they would lie about this ???" Here's a whopping reason; they feel they have to. Right now they look like prize instigators of grief to the world due to something so simple as their lackadaisical approach to public and basic food hygiene and it's regulations. Furthermore it's not the first time a shitstorm virus that they've somehow bungled into existence has caused a global panic, just that this one is on the biggest scale. They need to save face quickly and by any cost as people the world over are now cursing their government's ability to somehow continue to engineer cock up after cock up of magnitude in the first place and make no mistake this is the biggest one yet. So they therefore need to show the world that they can at least tidy up their own mess in their own backyard with some efficiency and then try to win back at least a little favour by sharing the knowledge (and their bloody testing kits and don't get me started on the ridiculous situation on us not having anywhere near enough of them) they've gathered from studying this damned virus for longer than any other country in the world. Using a played down analogy of comparing this current catastrophe to a common workplace, and fittingly in this instance perhaps let's say the countries of the world were a team of shelfstackers preparing a store for an extremely busy shopping day tomorrow. China would be a clumsy bloke with a nickname of Messy Dave, who somehow succeeded in bumping over an entire aisle of shelving, spilling jars of pasta sauces all over the shop so that half the fucking floor is covered in goop and broken glass, making a great racket so that everyone looks round in stunned silence to hear a dopey sounding "Oops!" from the useless plum. Two minutes before the shift is due to finish. And worse still the stupid sod has clumsily done this exact thing a few times before. Does the silly bastard then just stand there scratching his arse looking gormless? Hell no, not if he knows what's good for him. He gets stuck right into clearing up massive clusterfuck with his colleagues (as no one can leave before it's spotless) and by God he realises he'd better work harder than anyone else at it too (and make everyone aware that he does) and maybe just maybe the entire group might not go to the general manager tomorrow and as one refuse to to work with the sausage any more. B | |||
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"Fair enough that you believe China authorities are not always forthcoming with information but I still don’t see what it is they would stand to benefit or gain from not providing factual Information about there being no new reported cases ... Anyone have any suggestions on why they would lie about this ??? Here's a whopping reason; they feel they have to. Right now they look like prize instigators of grief to the world due to something so simple as their lackadaisical approach to public and basic food hygiene and it's regulations. Furthermore it's not the first time a shitstorm virus that they've somehow bungled into existence has caused a global panic, just that this one is on the biggest scale. They need to save face quickly and by any cost as people the world over are now cursing their government's ability to somehow continue to engineer cock up after cock up of magnitude in the first place and make no mistake this is the biggest one yet. So they therefore need to show the world that they can at least tidy up their own mess in their own backyard with some efficiency and then try to win back at least a little favour by sharing the knowledge (and their bloody testing kits and don't get me started on the ridiculous situation on us not having anywhere near enough of them) they've gathered from studying this damned virus for longer than any other country in the world. Using a played down analogy of comparing this current catastrophe to a common workplace, and fittingly in this instance perhaps let's say the countries of the world were a team of shelfstackers preparing a store for an extremely busy shopping day tomorrow. China would be a clumsy bloke with a nickname of Messy Dave, who somehow succeeded in bumping over an entire aisle of shelving, spilling jars of pasta sauces all over the shop so that half the fucking floor is covered in goop and broken glass, making a great racket so that everyone looks round in stunned silence to hear a dopey sounding "Oops!" from the useless plum. Two minutes before the shift is due to finish. And worse still the stupid sod has clumsily done this exact thing a few times before. Does the silly bastard then just stand there scratching his arse looking gormless? Hell no, not if he knows what's good for him. He gets stuck right into clearing up massive clusterfuck with his colleagues (as no one can leave before it's spotless) and by God he realises he'd better work harder than anyone else at it too (and make everyone aware that he does) and maybe just maybe the entire group might not go to the general manager tomorrow and as one refuse to to work with the sausage any more. B" Refuse to work with the "sausage"? Good luck not relying on China to carry on manufacturing the vast majority of things in your possession, including the device you might be reading this on. In keeping with your strange analogy, this "store" probably wouldn't have as many customers because Dave is the only way things are affordable based on the global economy we live in and every other "shelf stacker" is aware and complicit in that. The fact that you think "Dave" needs to do something "if he knows what's good for him" is laughable when you consider he's essentially a modern superpower. So much could be said about this and the other drivel overflowing in these forums, but it would be about as useful as the morons stacking up on masks thinking they'll protect them from the virus. Stay safe, stay indoors and was your hands | |||
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"Fair enough that you believe China authorities are not always forthcoming with information but I still don’t see what it is they would stand to benefit or gain from not providing factual Information about there being no new reported cases ... Anyone have any suggestions on why they would lie about this ??? Here's a whopping reason; they feel they have to. Right now they look like prize instigators of grief to the world due to something so simple as their lackadaisical approach to public and basic food hygiene and it's regulations. Furthermore it's not the first time a shitstorm virus that they've somehow bungled into existence has caused a global panic, just that this one is on the biggest scale. They need to save face quickly and by any cost as people the world over are now cursing their government's ability to somehow continue to engineer cock up after cock up of magnitude in the first place and make no mistake this is the biggest one yet. So they therefore need to show the world that they can at least tidy up their own mess in their own backyard with some efficiency and then try to win back at least a little favour by sharing the knowledge (and their bloody testing kits and don't get me started on the ridiculous situation on us not having anywhere near enough of them) they've gathered from studying this damned virus for longer than any other country in the world. Using a played down analogy of comparing this current catastrophe to a common workplace, and fittingly in this instance perhaps let's say the countries of the world were a team of shelfstackers preparing a store for an extremely busy shopping day tomorrow. China would be a clumsy bloke with a nickname of Messy Dave, who somehow succeeded in bumping over an entire aisle of shelving, spilling jars of pasta sauces all over the shop so that half the fucking floor is covered in goop and broken glass, making a great racket so that everyone looks round in stunned silence to hear a dopey sounding "Oops!" from the useless plum. Two minutes before the shift is due to finish. And worse still the stupid sod has clumsily done this exact thing a few times before. Does the silly bastard then just stand there scratching his arse looking gormless? Hell no, not if he knows what's good for him. He gets stuck right into clearing up massive clusterfuck with his colleagues (as no one can leave before it's spotless) and by God he realises he'd better work harder than anyone else at it too (and make everyone aware that he does) and maybe just maybe the entire group might not go to the general manager tomorrow and as one refuse to to work with the sausage any more. B Refuse to work with the "sausage"? Good luck not relying on China to carry on manufacturing the vast majority of things in your possession, including the device you might be reading this on. In keeping with your strange analogy, this "store" probably wouldn't have as many customers because Dave is the only way things are affordable based on the global economy we live in and every other "shelf stacker" is aware and complicit in that. The fact that you think "Dave" needs to do something "if he knows what's good for him" is laughable when you consider he's essentially a modern superpower. So much could be said about this and the other drivel overflowing in these forums, but it would be about as useful as the morons stacking up on masks thinking they'll protect them from the virus. Stay safe, stay indoors and was your hands " Firstly a small detail but my phone was made in South Korea. Yes, you can buy things made in China comparatively cheaper as they've built the bulk of their economy on merely copying most other countries' ideas and producing them at less cost. Two main reasons; they exploit more of their workforce and produce a lot of the time inferior quality. I don't doubt that there's a few things in my house that are made in China for their products reach far and wide. But if I was after anything reliable, integral and to last the test of time I wouldn't rank their produce as the most logical solution. Keeping with the shelfstacker analogy let's make Dave the MD's nephew. This reflects his power and status, but he's still a clumsy bugger who is responsible for causing untold grief. Think anyone else would actively want to work with him if he didn't at least try and act like he gave a shit about his disastrous escapades? I don't have a downer on the vast majority of the Chinese people. They are simple ordinary folk going about their day to day lives, providing for their families like we do. But I certainly have a downer on their powers that be, who after such a disaster in the past refuse to stringently tighten up their hygiene standards and as a result cause another similar mess to last time, only bigger. Also I believe a poster above thought that others besmirching the honesty of China's politicians somehow indicates in contrast that we all think Boris Johnson is a noble man relied upon to tell the truth at all times? The two aren't mutually exclusive. I didn't vote for Boris and even the Party Leader I voted for I only did so believing them to be the "Best of a bad bunch". The overwhelming majority of politicians worldwide are complete whoppers, a lot of the time because it pays them dividends to be so. B | |||
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"Fair enough that you believe China authorities are not always forthcoming with information but I still don’t see what it is they would stand to benefit or gain from not providing factual Information about there being no new reported cases ... Anyone have any suggestions on why they would lie about this ??? Here's a whopping reason; they feel they have to. Right now they look like prize instigators of grief to the world due to something so simple as their lackadaisical approach to public and basic food hygiene and it's regulations. Furthermore it's not the first time a shitstorm virus that they've somehow bungled into existence has caused a global panic, just that this one is on the biggest scale. They need to save face quickly and by any cost as people the world over are now cursing their government's ability to somehow continue to engineer cock up after cock up of magnitude in the first place and make no mistake this is the biggest one yet. So they therefore need to show the world that they can at least tidy up their own mess in their own backyard with some efficiency and then try to win back at least a little favour by sharing the knowledge (and their bloody testing kits and don't get me started on the ridiculous situation on us not having anywhere near enough of them) they've gathered from studying this damned virus for longer than any other country in the world. Using a played down analogy of comparing this current catastrophe to a common workplace, and fittingly in this instance perhaps let's say the countries of the world were a team of shelfstackers preparing a store for an extremely busy shopping day tomorrow. China would be a clumsy bloke with a nickname of Messy Dave, who somehow succeeded in bumping over an entire aisle of shelving, spilling jars of pasta sauces all over the shop so that half the fucking floor is covered in goop and broken glass, making a great racket so that everyone looks round in stunned silence to hear a dopey sounding "Oops!" from the useless plum. Two minutes before the shift is due to finish. And worse still the stupid sod has clumsily done this exact thing a few times before. Does the silly bastard then just stand there scratching his arse looking gormless? Hell no, not if he knows what's good for him. He gets stuck right into clearing up massive clusterfuck with his colleagues (as no one can leave before it's spotless) and by God he realises he'd better work harder than anyone else at it too (and make everyone aware that he does) and maybe just maybe the entire group might not go to the general manager tomorrow and as one refuse to to work with the sausage any more. B Refuse to work with the "sausage"? Good luck not relying on China to carry on manufacturing the vast majority of things in your possession, including the device you might be reading this on. In keeping with your strange analogy, this "store" probably wouldn't have as many customers because Dave is the only way things are affordable based on the global economy we live in and every other "shelf stacker" is aware and complicit in that. The fact that you think "Dave" needs to do something "if he knows what's good for him" is laughable when you consider he's essentially a modern superpower. So much could be said about this and the other drivel overflowing in these forums, but it would be about as useful as the morons stacking up on masks thinking they'll protect them from the virus. Stay safe, stay indoors and was your hands Firstly a small detail but my phone was made in South Korea. Yes, you can buy things made in China comparatively cheaper as they've built the bulk of their economy on merely copying most other countries' ideas and producing them at less cost. Two main reasons; they exploit more of their workforce and produce a lot of the time inferior quality. I don't doubt that there's a few things in my house that are made in China for their products reach far and wide. But if I was after anything reliable, integral and to last the test of time I wouldn't rank their produce as the most logical solution. Keeping with the shelfstacker analogy let's make Dave the MD's nephew. This reflects his power and status, but he's still a clumsy bugger who is responsible for causing untold grief. Think anyone else would actively want to work with him if he didn't at least try and act like he gave a shit about his disastrous escapades? I don't have a downer on the vast majority of the Chinese people. They are simple ordinary folk going about their day to day lives, providing for their families like we do. But I certainly have a downer on their powers that be, who after such a disaster in the past refuse to stringently tighten up their hygiene standards and as a result cause another similar mess to last time, only bigger. Also I believe a poster above thought that others besmirching the honesty of China's politicians somehow indicates in contrast that we all think Boris Johnson is a noble man relied upon to tell the truth at all times? The two aren't mutually exclusive. I didn't vote for Boris and even the Party Leader I voted for I only did so believing them to be the "Best of a bad bunch". The overwhelming majority of politicians worldwide are complete whoppers, a lot of the time because it pays them dividends to be so. B" What? | |||
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"Fair enough that you believe China authorities are not always forthcoming with information but I still don’t see what it is they would stand to benefit or gain from not providing factual Information about there being no new reported cases ... Anyone have any suggestions on why they would lie about this ??? Here's a whopping reason; they feel they have to. Right now they look like prize instigators of grief to the world due to something so simple as their lackadaisical approach to public and basic food hygiene and it's regulations. Furthermore it's not the first time a shitstorm virus that they've somehow bungled into existence has caused a global panic, just that this one is on the biggest scale. They need to save face quickly and by any cost as people the world over are now cursing their government's ability to somehow continue to engineer cock up after cock up of magnitude in the first place and make no mistake this is the biggest one yet. So they therefore need to show the world that they can at least tidy up their own mess in their own backyard with some efficiency and then try to win back at least a little favour by sharing the knowledge (and their bloody testing kits and don't get me started on the ridiculous situation on us not having anywhere near enough of them) they've gathered from studying this damned virus for longer than any other country in the world. Using a played down analogy of comparing this current catastrophe to a common workplace, and fittingly in this instance perhaps let's say the countries of the world were a team of shelfstackers preparing a store for an extremely busy shopping day tomorrow. China would be a clumsy bloke with a nickname of Messy Dave, who somehow succeeded in bumping over an entire aisle of shelving, spilling jars of pasta sauces all over the shop so that half the fucking floor is covered in goop and broken glass, making a great racket so that everyone looks round in stunned silence to hear a dopey sounding "Oops!" from the useless plum. Two minutes before the shift is due to finish. And worse still the stupid sod has clumsily done this exact thing a few times before. Does the silly bastard then just stand there scratching his arse looking gormless? Hell no, not if he knows what's good for him. He gets stuck right into clearing up massive clusterfuck with his colleagues (as no one can leave before it's spotless) and by God he realises he'd better work harder than anyone else at it too (and make everyone aware that he does) and maybe just maybe the entire group might not go to the general manager tomorrow and as one refuse to to work with the sausage any more. B Refuse to work with the "sausage"? Good luck not relying on China to carry on manufacturing the vast majority of things in your possession, including the device you might be reading this on. In keeping with your strange analogy, this "store" probably wouldn't have as many customers because Dave is the only way things are affordable based on the global economy we live in and every other "shelf stacker" is aware and complicit in that. The fact that you think "Dave" needs to do something "if he knows what's good for him" is laughable when you consider he's essentially a modern superpower. So much could be said about this and the other drivel overflowing in these forums, but it would be about as useful as the morons stacking up on masks thinking they'll protect them from the virus. Stay safe, stay indoors and was your hands Firstly a small detail but my phone was made in South Korea. Yes, you can buy things made in China comparatively cheaper as they've built the bulk of their economy on merely copying most other countries' ideas and producing them at less cost. Two main reasons; they exploit more of their workforce and produce a lot of the time inferior quality. I don't doubt that there's a few things in my house that are made in China for their products reach far and wide. But if I was after anything reliable, integral and to last the test of time I wouldn't rank their produce as the most logical solution. Keeping with the shelfstacker analogy let's make Dave the MD's nephew. This reflects his power and status, but he's still a clumsy bugger who is responsible for causing untold grief. Think anyone else would actively want to work with him if he didn't at least try and act like he gave a shit about his disastrous escapades? I don't have a downer on the vast majority of the Chinese people. They are simple ordinary folk going about their day to day lives, providing for their families like we do. But I certainly have a downer on their powers that be, who after such a disaster in the past refuse to stringently tighten up their hygiene standards and as a result cause another similar mess to last time, only bigger. Also I believe a poster above thought that others besmirching the honesty of China's politicians somehow indicates in contrast that we all think Boris Johnson is a noble man relied upon to tell the truth at all times? The two aren't mutually exclusive. I didn't vote for Boris and even the Party Leader I voted for I only did so believing them to be the "Best of a bad bunch". The overwhelming majority of politicians worldwide are complete whoppers, a lot of the time because it pays them dividends to be so. B" Boris is an honourable man. "For Brutus is an honourable man" | |||
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"Will they change their eating habits though so it does not happen again? I believe it was originally from bats?" Genuine authentic Chinese food is fantastic and delicious | |||
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" Firstly a small detail but my phone was made in South Korea. Yes, you can buy things made in China comparatively cheaper as they've built the bulk of their economy on merely copying most other countries' ideas and producing them at less cost. Two main reasons; they exploit more of their workforce and produce a lot of the time inferior quality. I don't doubt that there's a few things in my house that are made in China for their products reach far and wide. But if I was after anything reliable, integral and to last the test of time I wouldn't rank their produce as the most logical solution. " It's the individual components of things like smartphones, tablets etc that China produced in great numbers; despite where your devices are assembled/manufactured, chances are some of the components like processors, screens, boards etc are of Chinese origin. | |||
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"Be thankful you don't live in North Korea. " I'm ok, North Korea has a cure apparently. | |||
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"Be thankful you don't live in North Korea. I'm ok, North Korea has a cure apparently." Although what they call a cure others call it feeding to the dogs. | |||
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"I love this. We don't believe China... But we believe everything that comes out of Boris Johnson's mouth and everything we read in the Sun and the Daily Mail. That's actually historically and social a norm. Your own are familiar and 'safer' bet than outsiders. Most will publically defend their own against others even knowingly if they are wrong too. It's human nature. So no surprises here. It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. " | |||
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