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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." So you think all this upheaval and a Tory government releasing billions back into the economy is to scare people? | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." There is an element of scaremongering but not to the degree you are saying and it's not coming from the government but rather some idiotic people who spread inaccurate facts via Facebook and the internet. The ECONOMY of China? How are they now back on their feet? I think you need to reread what you've written about it being around for years. Viruses in a general sense have been around for years, yes but this is a new strain one for which there is no vaccine for yet. | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and the now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." Are you pulling the piss, Goto YouTube search Royallab stats, live counter, there is some graphs and figures for you, and before I get people saying well how do they get there figures, I don't know but they are pretty reliable. The only scare mongering is the media. Smell the coffee those that think it's a conspiracy, or the world governments have got a cure(not for months) we were all warned China told us back in December and we didn't listen, we can all listen now and wake up. "routers 1hour ago British sex, not bohemian....." Check it out for yourselves But hey mate you need to change your way you thinking about this and look after yourself and family x sorry blowing a casket the way I see it is 1 person being ignorant is 1 step closer to me and my family getting it, the media need to stop thinking like it's television x | |||
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths" Don't two minuses make a plus so the average will be higher ? | |||
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths" Sorry I meant the actual deaths are lower than previous averages | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." And the prize for this week's most inappropriate comparison goes to.... Yes, we had mass graves and mass incineration for agricultural diseases like Foot and Mouth - I can still remember the smell... We won't reach that stage, but we're already having graveside funerals with just two or three people present. Now, be a good chap, and give your head a wiggle. Right now the struggle is between 250,000 extra deaths and 500,000 extra deaths with a faint hope we can get the numbers down if we do this right- why not get yourself on the right side in that struggle? Mr Icebreaker | |||
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths Sorry I meant the actual deaths are lower than previous averages" Wild hearts is right. On average seasonal flu kills around 10’000 people in this country every year. The danger is we can’t manage that flu AND this one at the same time. | |||
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths Sorry I meant the actual deaths are lower than previous averages Wild hearts is right. On average seasonal flu kills around 10’000 people in this country every year. The danger is we can’t manage that flu AND this one at the same time. "  | |||
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for the last two posts, just a quikie I by pass the media
I try and not bother health authorities.
(Our nurses and doctors are doing a great job, and are a god send and if they need volunteers for anything pm me)
It's information that you can take into account and you see over a few days what severity is.
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths Sorry I meant the actual deaths are lower than previous averages Wild hearts is right. On average seasonal flu kills around 10’000 people in this country every year. The danger is we can’t manage that flu AND this one at the same time. " | |||
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"we're already having graveside funerals with just two or three people present. " Leeds City Council have banned burials. Funerals must be cremations with no one present. | |||
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"clearly have an IQ smaller than your dick"  I'm with you on that one !! | |||
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"clearly have an IQ smaller than your dick" Actually, yes, brains in testicals, very small testicals!  | |||
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"we're already having graveside funerals with just two or three people present. Leeds City Council have banned burials. Funerals must be cremations with no one present. " Up here there are communities more than fifty miles from the nearest crematorium - graveside funerals are the only realistic option unless you want to go all old school and have a ton of coal handy. (true story - the first legal cremation happened in Wales when the local doctor and all round nutjob cremated his son, who he'd named Jesus Christ, on a pile of a ton of coal. Given that the doctor was in his late 80s, and the mother was his housekeeper who was about 19, Jesus Christ might have been an approrpiate response to the news of her pregnancy...) | |||
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"The average is lower than the average....... Must be a new kind of maths Sorry I meant the actual deaths are lower than previous averages Wild hearts is right. On average seasonal flu kills around 10’000 people in this country every year. The danger is we can’t manage that flu AND this one at the same time. " Also the flu doesn't kill the clinicians treating it. That's the big problem | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." I suggest you check out the dr on 5 live last night | |||
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"From a charge nurse In London. Its horrendous at the hospital. I've done time in trauma and thought I'd seen everything but these patients are so sick. They all have ARDS. We intubated three patients the other night in the space of about 4 hours. They've turned the trauma ward into a Covid ward and moved the trauma patients elsewhere, so my entire team has moved to another part of the hospital but we are sending trauma nurses to help staff the covid ward. We have over 100 cases now, 50% of them are DNAR. I have friends on ITU that have two vented patients each instead of the usual one, two of my friends have contracted the virus already and one of the doctors is on a ventilator after catching it from a patient. I've been nursing positive patients in just a surgical mask and apron, they're saving the full PPE, respiratory and goggles for ICU staff because they think they're higher risk from the virus being aerosolised by the machines. I think I'm most likely in the incubation period right now because I've had so much exposure after the last week but they aren't offering tests to staff and so far we don't have an antibody test we only have viral swabs to tell us if a person has an active infection. Stay inside as much as you can if you aren't already, we're starting to see healthy people in their 20s requiring mechanical ventilation, no one is completely safe it seems." That bit in the 3rd paragraph about the dr. I hope once this is all over I hope the gmnt are held to account about how the NHS has been systematically starved. | |||
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"There is an element of scare mongering and hysteria. But that's probably far closer to reality than anything you've posted" | |||
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"From a charge nurse In London. Its horrendous at the hospital. I've done time in trauma and thought I'd seen everything but these patients are so sick. They all have ARDS. We intubated three patients the other night in the space of about 4 hours. They've turned the trauma ward into a Covid ward and moved the trauma patients elsewhere, so my entire team has moved to another part of the hospital but we are sending trauma nurses to help staff the covid ward. We have over 100 cases now, 50% of them are DNAR. I have friends on ITU that have two vented patients each instead of the usual one, two of my friends have contracted the virus already and one of the doctors is on a ventilator after catching it from a patient. I've been nursing positive patients in just a surgical mask and apron, they're saving the full PPE, respiratory and goggles for ICU staff because they think they're higher risk from the virus being aerosolised by the machines. I think I'm most likely in the incubation period right now because I've had so much exposure after the last week but they aren't offering tests to staff and so far we don't have an antibody test we only have viral swabs to tell us if a person has an active infection. Stay inside as much as you can if you aren't already, we're starting to see healthy people in their 20s requiring mechanical ventilation, no one is completely safe it seems. That bit in the 3rd paragraph about the dr. I hope once this is all over I hope the gmnt are held to account about how the NHS has been systematically starved." Well said...but I doubt it,just might make thimgs better for future funding perhaps... | |||
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"From a charge nurse In London. Its horrendous at the hospital. I've done time in trauma and thought I'd seen everything but these patients are so sick. They all have ARDS. We intubated three patients the other night in the space of about 4 hours. They've turned the trauma ward into a Covid ward and moved the trauma patients elsewhere, so my entire team has moved to another part of the hospital but we are sending trauma nurses to help staff the covid ward. We have over 100 cases now, 50% of them are DNAR. I have friends on ITU that have two vented patients each instead of the usual one, two of my friends have contracted the virus already and one of the doctors is on a ventilator after catching it from a patient. I've been nursing positive patients in just a surgical mask and apron, they're saving the full PPE, respiratory and goggles for ICU staff because they think they're higher risk from the virus being aerosolised by the machines. I think I'm most likely in the incubation period right now because I've had so much exposure after the last week but they aren't offering tests to staff and so far we don't have an antibody test we only have viral swabs to tell us if a person has an active infection. Stay inside as much as you can if you aren't already, we're starting to see healthy people in their 20s requiring mechanical ventilation, no one is completely safe it seems. That bit in the 3rd paragraph about the dr. I hope once this is all over I hope the gmnt are held to account about how the NHS has been systematically starved. Well said...but I doubt it,just might make thimgs better for future funding perhaps..." I doubt it too tbh. | |||
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"It is attitudes such as this which is scarier than the virus And the trouble is millions of others have this attitude too. These pig arrogant attitude is what will force us into lockdown not Covid19.... Because ignorant stupidity does not listen to the advice given " and this stupidity will lead to what Italy have now announced today. Already under lock down they have taken it further. No one can now leave their homes for anything. Scaremongering.. No Reality... Yes. | |||
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"You’ve all forgotten #bekind already then "It's hardly being kind ignoring expert advice to socially distance and isolate yourself from others to avoid spreading this virus. Far too many think that because they're healthy and get it they'll recover just fine. Being kind is thinking about the vulnerable people in society, following expert advice to help slow this shit down and prevent the NHS from collapsing under the strain it's already suffering from, and not thinking with your dick/pussy. | |||
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"You’ve all forgotten #bekind already then
It's hardly being kind ignoring expert advice to socially distance and isolate yourself from others to avoid spreading this virus. Far too many think that because they're healthy and get it they'll recover just fine.
Being kind is thinking about the vulnerable people in society, following expert advice to help slow this shit down and prevent the NHS from collapsing under the strain it's already suffering from, and not thinking with your dick/pussy."It’s more the personal attacks on people if they dare have a difference of opinion which I object to  | |||
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"You’ve all forgotten #bekind already then
It's hardly being kind ignoring expert advice to socially distance and isolate yourself from others to avoid spreading this virus. Far too many think that because they're healthy and get it they'll recover just fine.
Being kind is thinking about the vulnerable people in society, following expert advice to help slow this shit down and prevent the NHS from collapsing under the strain it's already suffering from, and not thinking with your dick/pussy.
It’s more the personal attacks on people if they dare have a difference of opinion which I object to "I'm all for opinions. It's people not taking this seriously and flouting expert advice I can't tolerate. Maybe martial law is required. | |||
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"You’ve all forgotten #bekind already then
It's hardly being kind ignoring expert advice to socially distance and isolate yourself from others to avoid spreading this virus. Far too many think that because they're healthy and get it they'll recover just fine.
Being kind is thinking about the vulnerable people in society, following expert advice to help slow this shit down and prevent the NHS from collapsing under the strain it's already suffering from, and not thinking with your dick/pussy.
It’s more the personal attacks on people if they dare have a difference of opinion which I object to "Is it a difference of opinion though? I mean is ignoring government guidelines a difference of opinion? Is denying the severity of this a difference of opinion? | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." This virus has NOT been around for years. It is new. There is no cure and no vaccine or effective treatment. If you get it the only thing you are relying on is your own immune system. Hospitals can give support if you can't breathe but can give you nothing to help you fight it as there is nothing out there. This is most definitely not the normal flu. A flu vaccine does not help. This is not trying to scare people this it facts. Please start to take notice. | |||
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"You’ve all forgotten #bekind already then
It's hardly being kind ignoring expert advice to socially distance and isolate yourself from others to avoid spreading this virus. Far too many think that because they're healthy and get it they'll recover just fine.
Being kind is thinking about the vulnerable people in society, following expert advice to help slow this shit down and prevent the NHS from collapsing under the strain it's already suffering from, and not thinking with your dick/pussy.
It’s more the personal attacks on people if they dare have a difference of opinion which I object to
Is it a difference of opinion though? I mean is ignoring government guidelines a difference of opinion? Is denying the severity of this a difference of opinion?"Yes it is as several people believe it’s scaremongering, others don’t. I say do what is best for you and your families and stay safe. No need to judge others though | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. This virus has NOT been around for years. It is new. There is no cure and no vaccine or effective treatment. If you get it the only thing you are relying on is your own immune system. Hospitals can give support if you can't breathe but can give you nothing to help you fight it as there is nothing out there. This is most definitely not the normal flu. A flu vaccine does not help. This is not trying to scare people this it facts. Please start to take notice. " Another sane, rational post, well said. | |||
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"If you are going to post no matter if you think a post is stupid or not do it without attacking people please." Don't quote my post and still attack people or you will be banned | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. This virus has NOT been around for years. It is new. There is no cure and no vaccine or effective treatment. If you get it the only thing you are relying on is your own immune system. Hospitals can give support if you can't breathe but can give you nothing to help you fight it as there is nothing out there. This is most definitely not the normal flu. A flu vaccine does not help. This is not trying to scare people this it facts. Please start to take notice. " could of been more prepared they have had nearly 3 months to prepare | |||
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"This virus has NOT been around for years. It is new. There is no cure and no vaccine or effective treatment. If you get it the only thing you are relying on is your own immune system. Hospitals can give support if you can't breathe but can give you nothing to help you fight it as there is nothing out there. This is most definitely not the normal flu. A flu vaccine does not help. This is not trying to scare people this it facts. Please start to take notice. " Correct, not years, but it HAS been about since last year. There is even some (not much, but some) evidence to suggest that it was in the UK as early as November, but was misdiagnosed. If the country is to go into lockdown until a vaccine becomes available, we could be waiting until next year. Having the country on lockdown for 7-8 months will cause deaths in other ways. Not to mention that's it's financially unviable. Life needs to continue, albeit at a reduced rate. I'm not panic buying, I buy food and supplies as and when I need them, and if they aren't available, the I just go without for a day or so until they are available. I've been providing milk, bread and some essentials to my elderly neighbours should they need it, and I myself have been out of work for a month. I saw a family at the park today enjoying the lovely weather, and then a group of people berate them for enjoying themselves. The fact of the matter is, nobody knows what will happen, or how it will happen. The 'experts' know pretty much as much as the next person, and they are working towards understanding the virus, but let's face facts, they were not prepared, and are already not able to cope with the issue. And the fact that it is resulting in petty insults on this forum just shows the immaturity of some people when faced with a difference of opinion. | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." LMAOOOOOOOO | |||
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"Scare mongering. Tell that to the family of the 60 year old that I nursed and who died. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands at risk. And BTW. China isn’t clear. Some people. " China have just had new cases, A second wave is coming | |||
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"Scare mongering. Tell that to the family of the 60 year old that I nursed and who died. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands at risk. And BTW. China isn’t clear. Some people. China have just had new cases, A second wave is coming " Exactly. | |||
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"If anything I think they are downplaying how dangerous this virus is, to avoid causing mass panic (which we have had anyway). In 4 weeks it has killed 5000 people in Italy, 800 in a single day. This is more than just a 'bad' version of the flu." That's a good point, to put it into perspective if the lotto created 800 millionaires every day everyone would believe they had a good chance of winning it! | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease." What are you going on about . This is a new type of coronavirus, and nothing to do with the flu (which is the influenza virus) | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. What are you going on about . This is a new type of coronavirus, and nothing to do with the flu (which is the influenza virus) "  | |||
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"And the fact that it is resulting in petty insults on this forum just shows the immaturity of some people when faced with a difference of opinion. " Unfortunately this epidemic is not a matter of opinion. There are what was the few, but increasing numbers now, who understand that it is the most serious crisis to hit the world for at least a hundred years. These people are right, but probably still underestimating it. There are the people who are still denying it, still saying it's just the flu, still saying it's a media panic or a government conspiracy. These people are wrong. It's not down to opinions. The pandemic is fact. | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. So you think all this upheaval and a Tory government releasing billions back into the economy is to scare people?" Released sod all........and 50% of the people calling re mortgage help im having to turn away as not ledgible..... | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. So you think all this upheaval and a Tory government releasing billions back into the economy is to scare people? Released sod all........and 50% of the people calling re mortgage help im having to turn away as not ledgible..... " They're unreadable ? Sorry, no offence z couldn't resist | |||
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"Its scare mongering... why is it all doom and gloom.. lets go back to basics the virus has been around for years. yes the NHS gave out the Flu jab for the erderly due to the vulnerability. China gets it and all of a sudden their are clear and now advisors of how to minimise the risk. well check Chinas acconomy prior to the virus.. it was about to crash. lone be hold their back on their feet. I don't see any graphs or media stating the survival rate... just deaths. but without being morbid here. anyone seen any media on mas graves being done for deaths. was all over the news when we had mad cows disease. So you think all this upheaval and a Tory government releasing billions back into the economy is to scare people? Released sod all........and 50% of the people calling re mortgage help im having to turn away as not ledgible..... They're unreadable ? Sorry, no offence z couldn't resist" Lol none taken.....sodding predictive te t on mobile... | |||
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"A good news.. tomorrow Italy is gonna use this drug that seems effective on Covid -19,the name is Favipiravir.Finger crossed!" Yep I posted that on "could this be the cure" thread I think it looks really promising | |||
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"A good news.. tomorrow Italy is gonna use this drug that seems effective on Covid -19,the name is Favipiravir.Finger crossed! Yep I posted that on "could this be the cure" thread I think it looks really promising "Fingers crossed!! | |||
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"A good news.. tomorrow Italy is gonna use this drug that seems effective on Covid -19,the name is Favipiravir.Finger crossed! Yep I posted that on "could this be the cure" thread I think it looks really promising
Fingers crossed!!"What's the source of this info? Thanks. | |||
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"A good news.. tomorrow Italy is gonna use this drug that seems effective on Covid -19,the name is Favipiravir.Finger crossed! Yep I posted that on "could this be the cure" thread I think it looks really promising
Fingers crossed!!
What's the source of this info? Thanks."Try this thread... https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/virus/993775 | |||
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"A good news.. tomorrow Italy is gonna use this drug that seems effective on Covid -19,the name is Favipiravir.Finger crossed! Yep I posted that on "could this be the cure" thread I think it looks really promising
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