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"Will swingers clubs survive Covid 19? Six months of enforced closure. They are not known for being the most financially secure of businesses. Can you imagine the government providing temporary relief to them? " Well they should really as its a business and it would be unfair if similar venues etc qualify. | |||
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"Tell me a business or soul trader that's going to do well out of this" Any kind of Skype based tutoring , particularly gcse and a level | |||
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"Will swingers clubs survive Covid 19? Six months of enforced closure. They are not known for being the most financially secure of businesses. Can you imagine the government providing temporary relief to them? " Some will survive, some will close, many other businesses will close needlessly because this is going to last a lot longer than it should. I believe a lot of businesses that will fold will do so because of the length of closure | |||
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"Tell me a business or soul trader that's going to do well out of this" There will be people and businesses who will do very nicely, thank you, out of this situation/crisis. Some may have to adapt. As to clubs. The premises will still be there. The existing business may cease but someone will come long and decide to refinance it. Landlords may have to be a bit patient. Most clubs would need quite a lot of money spending on them to convert them to another use. Several are in slightly "out of the way" places and an alternative use does not immediately spring to mind... | |||
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"who says its for months ??" Pretty sure most of us can put our lives on hold until September time, hope I'm wrong. | |||
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"who says its for months ?? Pretty sure most of us can put our lives on hold until September time, hope I'm wrong. " I lost my job because of covid!! With the latest news I can not see clubs opening for many months to come!an if clubs can survive!! | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before." Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before. Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go " Usually the entrance fee is men 70 couples 15 women 0 and if they spend some money in the club like drinks it could be an expensive night there. | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go " Both of these are great arguments for charging guys very little or even letting them in free. I 'm all for limiting the numbers of single men to just enough to provide couples with that e_tra M for their MMFs and letting them in at no cost; after all, as already stated, so little profit is made from us guys, clubs wouldn't be loosing a penny. | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar " Don't some clubs charge more than £15 or so far the typical differential between men and others? I think it would be a good idea for clubs to revise their charging structure, at least whilst places are social only venues. As with general places, numbers can be controlled by other means, including advance bookings. | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar " This | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before. Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go " I wouldn’t go to clubs if single guys weren’t there. So whilst that may be true for you, it’s certainly not the case for all of us. Even right now if I were to go for a social only club night I’d only go if guys were there. V x | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar " Maybe this is one of the ways forward for clubs survival, social bubble couple nights | |||
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" Maybe this is one of the ways forward for clubs survival, social bubble couple nights" The bubble would have to bring along their council tax letter as proof that they are single. | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before. Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Usually the entrance fee is men 70 couples 15 women 0 and if they spend some money in the club like drinks it could be an expensive night there." £70 for single guys pmsl £15 for couples?? Which clubs are you going to ? Its nothing like | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Both of these are great arguments for charging guys very little or even letting them in free. I 'm all for limiting the numbers of single men to just enough to provide couples with that e_tra M for their MMFs and letting them in at no cost; after all, as already stated, so little profit is made from us guys, clubs wouldn't be loosing a penny." Problem with limiting single guys is that many travel expecting to get in don't think many would be pleased to be turned away after travelling an hour or more Pricing keeps out the idiots that give single guys a bad name the ones who walk around all night with cocks in hand not bothering to speak to anyone Also many couples prefer a single guy free atmosphere so if clubs fill up with single guys many couples will be lost hence clubs doing different nights so couples who only want couples have a choice of enjoying a night without having a trail of single guys following them around Others that want single guys have events like hot wives that they can attend Most clubs we have visited males pay 30 couples 20 single fems 5 So don't think the pricing is outrageous | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before. Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Usually the entrance fee is men 70 couples 15 women 0 and if they spend some money in the club like drinks it could be an expensive night there. £70 for single guys pmsl £15 for couples?? Which clubs are you going to ? Its nothing like " I dont really go anymore but it was to few london clubs I went too. | |||
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"No they wont, another reason I reckon is cos the men wont pay the high entrance fee now as the economy isnt so good as before. Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Usually the entrance fee is men 70 couples 15 women 0 and if they spend some money in the club like drinks it could be an expensive night there. £70 for single guys pmsl £15 for couples?? Which clubs are you going to ? Its nothing like I dont really go anymore but it was to few london clubs I went too." That doesn’t sound like club prices. More like brothels masquerading as clubs | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Both of these are great arguments for charging guys very little or even letting them in free. I 'm all for limiting the numbers of single men to just enough to provide couples with that e_tra M for their MMFs and letting them in at no cost; after all, as already stated, so little profit is made from us guys, clubs wouldn't be loosing a penny." Clubs are for couples, leave them to it | |||
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" Clubs are for couples, leave them to it " They really arent.. I've played as a single in clubs for many many years and mostly only with other singles x | |||
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"Many clubs have opened with strict guidelines in place and no play rules and they seem to be doing ok As for single guy paying prices that's a no brainer if there's a hint of any sort of play when clubs are open fully they will jump at the chance Many single guys think clubs rely on there entrance fee to survive never really seen this as most couples only nights are busier Plus the fact most single guys don't drink or very little as they want to perform where as couples tend to book onsite rooms and both drink as they enjoy the social side as much as the sexual and don't worry as much as single guys So the e_tra 15 quid entrance that a single guy spends to get in is no comparison to the e_tra 40 to 50 quid spent by couples behind the bar Single guys wouldnt be missed that much in clubs , most clubs do couples on a weekend night anyway and even if they dont they restrict the amount of single guys to a minimum anyway , they are not the life blood of swinging clubs far from it ,why do single guys go on like they get a raw deal from clubs ? Knowbody forces them to go Both of these are great arguments for charging guys very little or even letting them in free. I 'm all for limiting the numbers of single men to just enough to provide couples with that e_tra M for their MMFs and letting them in at no cost; after all, as already stated, so little profit is made from us guys, clubs wouldn't be loosing a penny. Clubs are for couples, leave them to it " No they aren't. | |||
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" Clubs are for couples, leave them to it " Utter bollocks. I love clubbing and I only go on nights there are lots of solo guys. V x | |||
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"It is complete bollocks Clubs need the income from single men. Most clubs only have a couples night on one evening of the week. These may be popular with the couples, but they are not going to keep a club going by themselves. The men don't just pay for admission, they pay an annual membership as well, something which in most clubs the couples don't have to pay. The reason for this is that without the couples and some single women the men wouldn't come. It remains to be seen if, after the initial enthusiasm wanes, the couples will continue to come in enough numbers to keep them open. Yes they may come on Saturday nights, but what about every other night they are open ? Sadly without the single guys I can't see the clubs surviving for long. Realistically I cant see many single guys continuing to attend just for socialising at two metres distance." | |||
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"Tell me a business or soul trader that's going to do well out of this" We have, we had to adapt but gone very well! | |||
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"It is complete bollocks Clubs need the income from single men. Most clubs only have a couples night on one evening of the week. These may be popular with the couples, but they are not going to keep a club going by themselves. The men don't just pay for admission, they pay an annual membership as well, something which in most clubs the couples don't have to pay. The reason for this is that without the couples and some single women the men wouldn't come. It remains to be seen if, after the initial enthusiasm wanes, the couples will continue to come in enough numbers to keep them open. Yes they may come on Saturday nights, but what about every other night they are open ? Sadly without the single guys I can't see the clubs surviving for long. Realistically I cant see many single guys continuing to attend just for socialising at two metres distance." There's still a fair amount of single guys attending Xtasia. For me, it shows that they are genuinely interested in the scene as a whole rather than just after a quick shag. | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs" I think you could be right, even these tests that are being developed that can give results very quickly can show a negative result if someone has covid in the early days. T | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs" Now that is an interesting thought. I’m not sure I’d be keen on fucking around right now. But I wonder if, eventually, we will drift back to our filthy habits. I cannot wait until I can get dressed up and go clubbing, if couples can have sex with each other then I guess there’s some voyeuristic fun to be had. There are some fairly nasty STDs out there and that doesn’t stop us. Many of us take whatever precautions we can against infection but it’s not bullet proof. The difference is (I guess) if I catch some vile STD the likelihood of passing it to my daughter or my dad (eeeuuuwwwwww) is pretty low. V x | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs" Judging by the amount of house parties and meets going on all around the country, the swinging lifestyle will be fine!! lol I can't tell you how many invites we've had to parties. Something along the lines of 'Seeing as the club is closed and you have your weekends back to yourselves, do you want to come to our party....'. Erm no! lol | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs Judging by the amount of house parties and meets going on all around the country, the swinging lifestyle will be fine!! lol I can't tell you how many invites we've had to parties. Something along the lines of 'Seeing as the club is closed and you have your weekends back to yourselves, do you want to come to our party....'. Erm no! lol " I'm getting a lot too.. as apparently because I cant get to events. | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs Judging by the amount of house parties and meets going on all around the country, the swinging lifestyle will be fine!! lol I can't tell you how many invites we've had to parties. Something along the lines of 'Seeing as the club is closed and you have your weekends back to yourselves, do you want to come to our party....'. Erm no! lol " I've no doubt it's going on, but that sort of swinging (perfectly valid though it is) can't really be considered all that sustainable in terms of bringing new people into the lifestyle as people leave it. It's hugely insular and destined to obscurity at best. The clubs are a vital lynchpin for those looking to explore and find people, especially for those who don't necessarily inspire many party invites such as ourselves. | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs Judging by the amount of house parties and meets going on all around the country, the swinging lifestyle will be fine!! lol I can't tell you how many invites we've had to parties. Something along the lines of 'Seeing as the club is closed and you have your weekends back to yourselves, do you want to come to our party....'. Erm no! lol I've no doubt it's going on, but that sort of swinging (perfectly valid though it is) can't really be considered all that sustainable in terms of bringing new people into the lifestyle as people leave it. It's hugely insular and destined to obscurity at best. The clubs are a vital lynchpin for those looking to explore and find people, especially for those who don't necessarily inspire many party invites such as ourselves. " Oh I totally agree, being a club owner However, not everybody agrees. Swinging will survive, even if some clubs don't | |||
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"I'm not sure the swinging lifestyle is going to survive Covid, let alone the clubs Judging by the amount of house parties and meets going on all around the country, the swinging lifestyle will be fine!! lol I can't tell you how many invites we've had to parties. Something along the lines of 'Seeing as the club is closed and you have your weekends back to yourselves, do you want to come to our party....'. Erm no! lol I've no doubt it's going on, but that sort of swinging (perfectly valid though it is) can't really be considered all that sustainable in terms of bringing new people into the lifestyle as people leave it. It's hugely insular and destined to obscurity at best. The clubs are a vital lynchpin for those looking to explore and find people, especially for those who don't necessarily inspire many party invites such as ourselves. Oh I totally agree, being a club owner However, not everybody agrees. Swinging will survive, even if some clubs don't" Swinging was alive and well before clubs opened and will thrive if clubs are prevented from fully promoting it for another year . I agree that new comers without contacts will find it difficult as will single guys who find it impossible to meet other than at clubs. Private parties will fill a void in the meantime until clubs can flourish again . | |||
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