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"Noone is forced to attend anything they don't want to. Let them carry on as normal If people are frightened they can opt to stay home I totally agree with you, we are not kids, we are sensible adults. Xx" | |||
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" https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-virologist-urges-world-leaders-to-calm-public-slams-unnecessary-panic/" It’s an interesting article. The key points made within it apply here also, and relate to my original post: They “acknowledge awareness that the Israeli health system will buckle under any further strain. Home quarantine has been ordered for everyone who has passed by someone who may have been infected by someone else,” he protested, “because they know that our health system cannot withstand coming under any more strain, because we are perennially stretched to the limit.” This is really the key point | |||
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"Think it comes down to priorities, if we carried on as normal the prediction would be that over half a million people will die by the end of August. By trying to avoid social contact that falls to a quarter of a million. So avoiding unnecessary contact will save lives, I'm currently still going to work and doing the essentials. Am I going to meet a stranger at the moment no don't think it's sensible at the moment. Figures from the BBC news website" | |||
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"The advice is there for a reason, even if you're young, fit and healthy and would probably fight it off with no issues you could go on to infect and older, more frail person and it could kill them. It's quite irresponsible, in my opinion, to not even attempt to do your bit. If I thought I'd passed it in to someone and it wiped them out I'd be devastated. Look at the bigger picture not just the here and now. " Exactly | |||
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"I think the whole thing has been sadly blown up out of all proportion. Simple hygiene and common sense should be sufficient. We are still sending children to schools, hot beds of germs and bugs. Huge contact between children, who don't do a lot of hand washing x " Yes but the kids have been in contact with each other for weeks. And not in contact with anyone new, totally agree my kids are always catching stuff from school. And there's the difference to me, go about your normal life yes meeting someone I wouldn't otherwise have contact with form here, no. It's about delaying the number of cases per day so that the hospitals can cope and have the necessary equipment for those who need it | |||
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"It's about delaying the number of cases per day so that the hospitals can cope and have the necessary equipment for those who need it " This | |||
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" https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-virologist-urges-world-leaders-to-calm-public-slams-unnecessary-panic/ It’s an interesting article. The key points made within it apply here also, and relate to my original post: They “acknowledge awareness that the Israeli health system will buckle under any further strain. Home quarantine has been ordered for everyone who has passed by someone who may have been infected by someone else,” he protested, “because they know that our health system cannot withstand coming under any more strain, because we are perennially stretched to the limit.” This is really the key point " It's a flawed system here, one of the key questions is 'have you had contact, within 2 metres of someone returning from...' I've been sat in the GPs waiting room for 5 weeks on a daily basis, surrounded by people coughing etc. I don't who they are or where they've been & yet that's not classed as direct contact because I don't know. That changed within 2 days & now I'm isolated at home managing my heath needs myself, exactly what would have died me from day one. Total farce | |||
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" That changed within 2 days & now I'm isolated at home managing my heath needs myself, exactly what would have died me from day one. Total farce " Again, this is my original point: the advice has changed and social behaviour should change along with it | |||
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"Take a read in The Lounge, a write up of someone here currently going through this. " Just read the thread. Everyone should. Thanks for posting this | |||
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"The problem with people calling to shut schools is that you would then have a large number of front line health and social care workers unable to attend work to care for the sick and vulnerable due to having to remain at home to care for fit and healthy children who on amy other given day would, apart from scheduled school holidays which people can plan well in advance for. Or even worse, the children may be left in the care of grandparents whose age alone classes them in the vulnerable bracket " Totally agree with you, we need to keep the schools open for as long as possible for this reason. Which is why going back to the OPs question that we should curb back on fab socials to limit unnecessary contact so that we can all get to work. The less contact we have with new people the better at the moment | |||
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"Take a read in The Lounge, a write up of someone here currently going through this. We have only us and little ones. Health (ours & other's) is far more important than Inconvenience. " https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/992456 | |||
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"The problem with people calling to shut schools is that you would then have a large number of front line health and social care workers unable to attend work to care for the sick and vulnerable due to having to remain at home to care for fit and healthy children who on amy other given day would, apart from scheduled school holidays which people can plan well in advance for. Or even worse, the children may be left in the care of grandparents whose age alone classes them in the vulnerable bracket Totally agree with you, we need to keep the schools open for as long as possible for this reason. Which is why going back to the OPs question that we should curb back on fab socials to limit unnecessary contact so that we can all get to work. The less contact we have with new people the better at the moment " Noone has to go to socials What I don't understand is why the government are "advising" people not to attend social settings e.g pubs, restaurants etc but not forcing them to close, unliie other countries. Surely if it were essential to save lives, forced closures should be implemented? Or would this then result in the Tory government having to financially assist those businesses by way of insurance or something?? None of it makes much sense to me | |||
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"Noone has to go to socials" You’re correct here, but under current medical advice it’s clear that, more than this, no-one should go to socials It’s a free country as people have said, but there should be some social responsibility on us all | |||
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"Noone has to go to socials You’re correct here, but under current medical advice it’s clear that, more than this, no-one should go to socials It’s a free country as people have said, but there should be some social responsibility on us all" Then why not forcibly shut social settings like pubs etc?? If attending such places is potentially putting lives at risk surely the government should be taking firm action. It makes no sense to me. | |||
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"Noone has to go to socials You’re correct here, but under current medical advice it’s clear that, more than this, no-one should go to socials It’s a free country as people have said, but there should be some social responsibility on us all Then why not forcibly shut social settings like pubs etc?? If attending such places is potentially putting lives at risk surely the government should be taking firm action. It makes no sense to me." We agree here, at the moment its just recommended, if it become official we will follow everything x | |||
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"Boris Johnson is being a crafy little sneaky so and so that's why. He's using the word "advise" rather than banning things at government level because as soon as he does that, a whole level of financial support for small businesses etc will be triggered which the Tories don't want to pay out. The longer he can "advise" against this and that the more money they're not going to have to spend. Same as the governments advice on travelling, they're advising against all holiday's abroad etc as soon as the government bans it, all their insurance companies will be paying out and reimbursing holiday makers. " This is correct. For the previous post to this, the public HAVE officially been advised to avoid social situations. The wording however one can only assume was deliberate to avoid the very insurance implication referenced in the above post | |||
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"Boris Johnson is being a crafy little sneaky so and so that's why. He's using the word "advise" rather than banning things at government level because as soon as he does that, a whole level of financial support for small businesses etc will be triggered which the Tories don't want to pay out. The longer he can "advise" against this and that the more money they're not going to have to spend. Same as the governments advice on travelling, they're advising against all holiday's abroad etc as soon as the government bans it, all their insurance companies will be paying out and reimbursing holiday makers. " Exactly Confirmation (if anyone really needed it) that the Tories care far more about money than about ordinary people's lives. | |||
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"Boris Johnson is being a crafy little sneaky so and so that's why. He's using the word "advise" rather than banning things at government level because as soon as he does that, a whole level of financial support for small businesses etc will be triggered which the Tories don't want to pay out. The longer he can "advise" against this and that the more money they're not going to have to spend. Same as the governments advice on travelling, they're advising against all holiday's abroad etc as soon as the government bans it, all their insurance companies will be paying out and reimbursing holiday makers. This is correct. For the previous post to this, the public HAVE officially been advised to avoid social situations. The wording however one can only assume was deliberate to avoid the very insurance implication referenced in the above post" But officially advising against things is entirely pointless when those people dishing out that "advice" have the total power to legally enforce it but choose not to. | |||
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"All about the money Miss P. Boris the bullshitter at his best ." Spot on X | |||
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"Interesting debate to be had about the right and freedoms of individuals against what is best for society as a whole. I'm not going to comment further as I'd piss 50% of you off and my chances on here are slim enough already " Such a good comment haha | |||
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"For some people these socials are their only social activity & does not have anything to do with sex. We need to quit knocking each other for our points of view on this, there is already a predicted sharp increase in mental health issues due to social isolation. Surely adults can reach their own decisions whilst nothing is imposed, most people I know, fab & vanilla, do are still socialising are being careful & using precautionary measures. I thought as adults we had the right to exercise our ability to be responsible in what ever circumstance we choose X" | |||
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"Once you make it official you then have to enforce it.........do we really want Police and Troops wandering the streets stopping, fineing and ultimately arresting you for going to the pub or a Fab social..?? It is happening in France right now My friend cannot go out to shop without a signed note and can only walk her dog alone and during daylight hours. This will come to the UK if we don't take the advice that is being given. 10's of thousands of young and old die every year in the UK from illness and accidents, and many many more need serious treatment in hospital....do you want to contribute to them having to die on hospital trollies or laying at home or at the side of the road, waiting for an Ambulance because the hospital is full of COVID 19 patients you helped to create?? So all you "I am all right Feck you" peeps who will ignore advice, I hope you don't end up lying in agony for 7 hours like a young girl did during January, when she fell off a horse and no Ambulances were available to come to her aid And that was during normal Winter NHS pressure not the crisis they are about to face.... Be sensible at the very least and think of others...is a social to find a sex meet that essential at the moment??? " couldnt of said it better myself We are now in quarantine for 12 weeks possibly more I had to ring an ambulance last night for my epileptic 6 year old daughter , they wouldn't come and told me to double her dose of emergency meds . But fuck the rest of the uk as long as you get your dick sucked ey ! Shocking carry on when there's a massive crisis on our doorsteps, surely a couple of months isolation is better than seeing your loved ones die because you had your pussy licked and brought home Corona | |||
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"For some people these socials are their only social activity & does not have anything to do with sex. We need to quit knocking each other for our points of view on this, there is already a predicted sharp increase in mental health issues due to social isolation. Surely adults can reach their own decisions whilst nothing is imposed, most people I know, fab & vanilla, do are still socialising are being careful & using precautionary measures. I thought as adults we had the right to exercise our ability to be responsible in what ever circumstance we choose X" The voice of reason as ever | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x" Totally agree xx | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x" Exactly this! And good points made about mental health etc x | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x Exactly this! And good points made about mental health etc x " | |||
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"Schools are now shut, I (Mr) think that as much as I feel the vast majority of people are overreacting with silly panic buying, for the safety of my family both young and older parents I would not want to go to an enclosed building with lots of people in close proximity. I do feel the threshold has been reached where common sense has to take precedent and large social gatherings postponed. I am certainly no advocate of a total lock down but people's health has to be important. You may get it but be perfectly fine but then pass it on to loved ones and that's not a price worth paying. Just my opinion. " And VERY well said !! | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x" People actually socialise without cock or pussy as a motivation, how dare you all on a 'sex site' amazes me how people here have such rigid, pre conceived ideas that seep out on these threads makes me laugh. I'm one of the vulnerable people & I'll exercise my right to responsibly socialise until I'm told otherwise, I'll be respectful of others choices but for me 12 weeks isolation isn't an option, for reasons I don't feel people need to know. | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x People actually socialise without cock or pussy as a motivation, how dare you all on a 'sex site' amazes me how people here have such rigid, pre conceived ideas that seep out on these threads makes me laugh. I'm one of the vulnerable people & I'll exercise my right to responsibly socialise until I'm told otherwise, I'll be respectful of others choices but for me 12 weeks isolation isn't an option, for reasons I don't feel people need to know. " Just socialised responsibly at my local pub, meal and a few drinks. Supporting the owners livelihood during these uncertain times as they have a child of their own to support and have no idea what the near future hold for their business and livelihoods. | |||
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"And because of the people that refuse to follow advice not to socialise and decide to exercise their "freedom to choose"......we will all end up in lockdown!! Thanks a bunch!!" Well said | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x People actually socialise without cock or pussy as a motivation, how dare you all on a 'sex site' amazes me how people here have such rigid, pre conceived ideas that seep out on these threads makes me laugh. I'm one of the vulnerable people & I'll exercise my right to responsibly socialise until I'm told otherwise, I'll be respectful of others choices but for me 12 weeks isolation isn't an option, for reasons I don't feel people need to know. Just socialised responsibly at my local pub, meal and a few drinks. Supporting the owners livelihood during these uncertain times as they have a child of their own to support and have no idea what the near future hold for their business and livelihoods. " How dare you exercise you freedom to choose P, as if doing so makes any god damn difference to the governments decision to impose a lockdown. BTW as P says people still still have no choice but to move about & carry on their daily lives, I know I will once my 7 days are up.. Back to work | |||
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"We dont attend socials to "fuck", we go to spend a few hours with friends. We are hoping to go to the Newport social as its been so stressful lately and its a constant 24/7 worry. We felt we needed to get out for a few hours for our own sanity. We will take all the precautions we can to keep ourselves safe. We are going solely to dance, no pussy or cock, its not about that. Its a few hours out to just destress our minds right now x People actually socialise without cock or pussy as a motivation, how dare you all on a 'sex site' amazes me how people here have such rigid, pre conceived ideas that seep out on these threads makes me laugh. I'm one of the vulnerable people & I'll exercise my right to responsibly socialise until I'm told otherwise, I'll be respectful of others choices but for me 12 weeks isolation isn't an option, for reasons I don't feel people need to know. Just socialised responsibly at my local pub, meal and a few drinks. Supporting the owners livelihood during these uncertain times as they have a child of their own to support and have no idea what the near future hold for their business and livelihoods. How dare you exercise you freedom to choose P, as if doing so makes any god damn difference to the governments decision to impose a lockdown. BTW as P says people still still have no choice but to move about & carry on their daily lives, I know I will once my 7 days are up.. Back to work" Same P3ach. I have to carry on as normal in my line of work no such luxury to be able to work from home | |||
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"No time off for me lambing in full swing soon to start calving aswell got to feed the nation " _______________________________ Stop looking in here and get back to work!!!! Once this is over you guys are going to be global heros | |||
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"No time off for me lambing in full swing soon to start calving aswell got to feed the nation _______________________________ Stop looking in here and get back to work!!!! Once this is over you guys are going to be global heros " people will soon forget! | |||
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"Looking like a lockdown is inevitable " They'll be forced to if people keep ignoring the advice given. | |||
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"And because of the people that refuse to follow advice not to socialise and decide to exercise their "freedom to choose"......we will all end up in lockdown!! Thanks a bunch!! Well are you already on lockdown then as by the look of your profile you been on lockdown a long time " Just because I don't ask for Vari's for my meetings doesn't mean I am in "lockdown"...... SO you stoop to making personal comments about me just because you can't follow the advice given to keep us all safe!! How grown up of you. For the record I work in the Care sector looking after very vulnerable people and I take looking after their welfare very seriously. If I get ill these people will be left alone with no-one to help them do the most basic of daily things. There are no other staff to take over my rounds, as they are either on self isolation or nobody has filled the vacancy for workers.....most of my clients have no family and are alone. It breaks my heart when I have to tell them if I get ill there will be no-one to come instead. Seeing an old lady yesterday in tears because I could not get her even basic foodstuffs. I had to give her 2 of my own toilet rolls yesterday as she had none. Don't even get me going on the selfish arseholes stripping shops bare..... So when you carry on with your socials and going to the pub etc. and inadvertently spread this virus and people like me get it......maybe stop and think about the 12 old people I won't be caring for sitting alone, hungry, cold because their electric has run out and in dirty homes!! By all means make personal comments and criticise my profile if you feel it helps to justify your actions during this terrible time. I am quite happy with what I get up to on Fab and the genuine people I meet here. You are just not thinking of others and the consequences of what you are doing. | |||
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"And because of the people that refuse to follow advice not to socialise and decide to exercise their "freedom to choose"......we will all end up in lockdown!! Thanks a bunch!! Well are you already on lockdown then as by the look of your profile you been on lockdown a long time Just because I don't ask for Vari's for my meetings doesn't mean I am in "lockdown"...... SO you stoop to making personal comments about me just because you can't follow the advice given to keep us all safe!! How grown up of you. For the record I work in the Care sector looking after very vulnerable people and I take looking after their welfare very seriously. If I get ill these people will be left alone with no-one to help them do the most basic of daily things. There are no other staff to take over my rounds, as they are either on self isolation or nobody has filled the vacancy for workers.....most of my clients have no family and are alone. It breaks my heart when I have to tell them if I get ill there will be no-one to come instead. Seeing an old lady yesterday in tears because I could not get her even basic foodstuffs. I had to give her 2 of my own toilet rolls yesterday as she had none. Don't even get me going on the selfish arseholes stripping shops bare..... So when you carry on with your socials and going to the pub etc. and inadvertently spread this virus and people like me get it......maybe stop and think about the 12 old people I won't be caring for sitting alone, hungry, cold because their electric has run out and in dirty homes!! By all means make personal comments and criticise my profile if you feel it helps to justify your actions during this terrible time. I am quite happy with what I get up to on Fab and the genuine people I meet here. You are just not thinking of others and the consequences of what you are doing." Oh well we better get to the supermarket like the other hundreds that will be in there and panic buy what we can get, we can then go into isolation, but don’t touch anything and social distance in a busy supermarket which is jam packed with people who may or may not have something but do not know or we could just starve, or is that ok in your eyes to go to the supermarket with lots of random unknowns? Is that safer than meeting friends who are swingers and don’t forget we as swingers all know about the risks involved in this lifestyle | |||
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"And because of the people that refuse to follow advice not to socialise and decide to exercise their "freedom to choose"......we will all end up in lockdown!! Thanks a bunch!! Well are you already on lockdown then as by the look of your profile you been on lockdown a long time Just because I don't ask for Vari's for my meetings doesn't mean I am in "lockdown"...... SO you stoop to making personal comments about me just because you can't follow the advice given to keep us all safe!! How grown up of you. For the record I work in the Care sector looking after very vulnerable people and I take looking after their welfare very seriously. If I get ill these people will be left alone with no-one to help them do the most basic of daily things. There are no other staff to take over my rounds, as they are either on self isolation or nobody has filled the vacancy for workers.....most of my clients have no family and are alone. It breaks my heart when I have to tell them if I get ill there will be no-one to come instead. Seeing an old lady yesterday in tears because I could not get her even basic foodstuffs. I had to give her 2 of my own toilet rolls yesterday as she had none. Don't even get me going on the selfish arseholes stripping shops bare..... So when you carry on with your socials and going to the pub etc. and inadvertently spread this virus and people like me get it......maybe stop and think about the 12 old people I won't be caring for sitting alone, hungry, cold because their electric has run out and in dirty homes!! By all means make personal comments and criticise my profile if you feel it helps to justify your actions during this terrible time. I am quite happy with what I get up to on Fab and the genuine people I meet here. You are just not thinking of others and the consequences of what you are doing. Oh well we better get to the supermarket like the other hundreds that will be in there and panic buy what we can get, we can then go into isolation, but don’t touch anything and social distance in a busy supermarket which is jam packed with people who may or may not have something but do not know or we could just starve, or is that ok in your eyes to go to the supermarket with lots of random unknowns? Is that safer than meeting friends who are swingers and don’t forget we as swingers all know about the risks involved in this lifestyle " Am I missing something, going to a supermarket is essential to be able to eat, going to a social gathering is irresponsible and bloody selfish, but crack on if you can't work that bit our. | |||
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"And because of the people that refuse to follow advice not to socialise and decide to exercise their "freedom to choose"......we will all end up in lockdown!! Thanks a bunch!! Well are you already on lockdown then as by the look of your profile you been on lockdown a long time Just because I don't ask for Vari's for my meetings doesn't mean I am in "lockdown"...... SO you stoop to making personal comments about me just because you can't follow the advice given to keep us all safe!! How grown up of you. For the record I work in the Care sector looking after very vulnerable people and I take looking after their welfare very seriously. If I get ill these people will be left alone with no-one to help them do the most basic of daily things. There are no other staff to take over my rounds, as they are either on self isolation or nobody has filled the vacancy for workers.....most of my clients have no family and are alone. It breaks my heart when I have to tell them if I get ill there will be no-one to come instead. Seeing an old lady yesterday in tears because I could not get her even basic foodstuffs. I had to give her 2 of my own toilet rolls yesterday as she had none. Don't even get me going on the selfish arseholes stripping shops bare..... So when you carry on with your socials and going to the pub etc. and inadvertently spread this virus and people like me get it......maybe stop and think about the 12 old people I won't be caring for sitting alone, hungry, cold because their electric has run out and in dirty homes!! By all means make personal comments and criticise my profile if you feel it helps to justify your actions during this terrible time. I am quite happy with what I get up to on Fab and the genuine people I meet here. You are just not thinking of others and the consequences of what you are doing. Oh well we better get to the supermarket like the other hundreds that will be in there and panic buy what we can get, we can then go into isolation, but don’t touch anything and social distance in a busy supermarket which is jam packed with people who may or may not have something but do not know or we could just starve, or is that ok in your eyes to go to the supermarket with lots of random unknowns? Is that safer than meeting friends who are swingers and don’t forget we as swingers all know about the risks involved in this lifestyle Am I missing something, going to a supermarket is essential to be able to eat, going to a social gathering is irresponsible and bloody selfish, but crack on if you can't work that bit our. " This ^^ government advice is to avoid all unnecessary contact, socialising doesn't count, needing to get food to eat is. We should all work together to avoid overwhelming the NHS and avoid a complete lockdown of the country. | |||
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