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"It boggles my brain why you wouldn’t wrap up in a swingers club. People who play bare with strangers scare me. " You catch these things through Oral sex. Nobody sane 'wraps up' for oral sex - it just doesn't happen | |||
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"Recent bulletin..... "The UKHSA STI reference laboratory (STIRL) has confirmed 20 cases of ceftriaxone-resistant Neisseria gonorrhoeae in 2026. This includes 5 cases associated with a swinging venue in the Midlands, none of whom reported travelling abroad. An additional 3 epidemiologically unlinked cases were also acquired in England and not associated with travel abroad. Cases have been identified in bisexual individuals for the first time, as well as in heterosexual individuals."" Wrap before you tap | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. " Only one or two clubs I have been to have it as a hard rule, and they have lots of staff on the floor making sure people behave. But they can't police locked rooms. | |||
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"When you’ve got someone asking for a bareback gangbang on here and saying they are not bothered by STI checks and have loads of people offering to join in it’s no wonder. " Well yes there is that side of things. You can see how easily it spreads, if each of those in the gangbang have met say four others before, then another four after which is quite easily done. You're very quickly into hundreds of people who have had the same sexual contact in possibly only a few days. | |||
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"Wrap up and stay warm in the knowledge that you are doing your bit for the environment Depends on how you dispose of the condom because they aren't biodegradable, I litter pick and the amount of condoms I picked up is eye watering, but at least they aren't producing any more irresponsible ankle biters to drain the social purse lol | |||
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"The amount of people on here who are prepared to have oral with strangers is crazy. Like there is just as much chance of catching most stis this way, but it’s treated like it’s safe??" We get regular testing, when you go down on a lady do you use a dam or do you just check she’s up to date with her tests ? | |||
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"The amount of people on here who are prepared to have oral with strangers is crazy. Like there is just as much chance of catching most stis this way, but it’s treated like it’s safe??" Some STIs not most. | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. " Never seen that in my life clubs enforced as a general rule. Other than on say a theme hosted event where someone else set up the event. I been to many clubs all mover the works and bareback has always been common as well tbh not banned. Sure maybe the 70% might rubber up but in my experiences it’s not banned | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. Never seen that in my life clubs enforced as a general rule. Other than on say a theme hosted event where someone else set up the event. I been to many clubs all mover the works and bareback has always been common as well tbh not banned. Sure maybe the 70% might rubber up but in my experiences it’s not banned " We would be too worried about catching something not to bag up | |||
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" The overuse of antibiotics when not needed is never ending. People dont finish prescribed courses or do not take as recommended - this is a huge issue which can only be addressed with education around correct use. Poor infection control in healthcare settings is shocking, i saw somethong recently that made me blink twice with the thought of are you for fcuking real? - this person was a doctor! Antibiotic use in livestock is nothing new - standards are not uniform when it comes to imported foods, people will say, buy local but sometimes buying glocal (via global food chain) on a budget means that its cheaper and will make your funds stretch. As for promoting a healthy diet on local produce, well, people need to shift their tastes to local seasonal produce - i doubt that will suit the avocado, poached egg and sour bread toast enthusiasts. Most importantly, people need to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to the point of approaching this through the lens of the 1980s/90s response to HIV/AIDS with prevention, treatment, and care being the top priority and better sexual health information / education. " This is all very true. | |||
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"Where is the source for this? I can't find it want to read all about it and maybe get updates somehow. " I also can’t find it, can find some UKHA releases but nothing up to date and nothing referencing swinging clubs. | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. Never seen that in my life clubs enforced as a general rule. Other than on say a theme hosted event where someone else set up the event. I been to many clubs all mover the works and bareback has always been common as well tbh not banned. Sure maybe the 70% might rubber up but in my experiences it’s not banned " The club I went to advise on protection and have condoms available, but it's left to the individuals , not enforced. | |||
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" I get tested every three month plus vaccinated against gonhorrea , hiv HPV and several other STIs Also play safe " Is there a vaccine for HIV? I thought there was only prep tablets for that. Definitely vaccines for hepB and Gonorohea, monkey pox. Don't know of any others. | |||
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" I get tested every three month plus vaccinated against gonhorrea , hiv HPV and several other STIs Also play safe Is there a vaccine for HIV? I thought there was only prep tablets for that. Definitely vaccines for hepB and Gonorohea, monkey pox. Don't know of any others. " You can get injectable Prep which I guess is kind of like a vaccine | |||
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" I get tested every three month plus vaccinated against gonhorrea , hiv HPV and several other STIs Also play safe Is there a vaccine for HIV? I thought there was only prep tablets for that. Definitely vaccines for hepB and Gonorohea, monkey pox. Don't know of any others. " There is no actual vaccine at present. There is PrEP and there is a longer term PrEP and an injection which is due to be rolled out at some point. If you contract the virus there are medications that manage the disease so it's not as it used to be now. | |||
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" I get tested every three month plus vaccinated against gonhorrea , hiv HPV and several other STIs Also play safe Is there a vaccine for HIV? I thought there was only prep tablets for that. Definitely vaccines for hepB and Gonorohea, monkey pox. Don't know of any others. There is no actual vaccine at present. There is PrEP and there is a longer term PrEP and an injection which is due to be rolled out at some point. If you contract the virus there are medications that manage the disease so it's not as it used to be now. " Injectable Prep is available on the NHS now. I was offered it because of how sick I felt taking the tablets | |||
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"Recent bulletin..... "The UKHSA STI reference laboratory (STIRL) has confirmed 20 cases of ceftriaxone-resistant Neisseria gonorrhoeae in 2026. This includes 5 cases associated with a swinging venue in the Midlands, none of whom reported travelling abroad. An additional 3 epidemiologically unlinked cases were also acquired in England and not associated with travel abroad. Cases have been identified in bisexual individuals for the first time, as well as in heterosexual individuals."" Please provide a direct link to this article, please. I have searched the web (including Google Scholar and medical journals) and found no reference to it. The closest was a 2022 UKHSA report in which several people were diagnosed in the Midlands but all had contracted the strain overseas. | |||
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" Are they sure it's through sexual contact. Has anyone looked into the drinks the customers have d*unk. Just wondering if some naughty employee at the drinks factory contaminated some drinks out of mischief, spite or maliciousness. It's highly unlikely that a bacteria will survive very long outside a host body, certainly not in a drink. " | |||
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" Cases have been identified in bisexual individuals for the first time, as well as in heterosexual individuals."" Unless someone gives a link to a reputable source I'm going to call this report as bogus and bullshit. I don't believe any organisation involved in the study of STIs would ever make the above statement and consider transmission being any different in bi and hetro individuals. | |||
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" Cases have been identified in bisexual individuals for the first time, as well as in heterosexual individuals." Unless someone gives a link to a reputable source I'm going to call this report as bogus and bullshit. I don't believe any organisation involved in the study of STIs would ever make the above statement and consider transmission being any different in bi and hetro individuals. " I had my last hepB jab on Monday and the clinician was telling me about the increase in cases of resistant Gonorohea amongst trans in the midlands . | |||
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"The actual latest data is here if anyone is interested. Do note that it is based if testing from a few years ago however. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gonococcal-resistance-to-antimicrobials-surveillance-programme-grasp-report/grasp-report-data-to-june-2023" This is the report of 2022 cases that I found. While it's well worth a read it is entirely factual and, unlike the scaremongering of the OP, makes no reference to swinging clubs in the Midlands. | |||
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"I think most people will have sex away from the scene, so it's essential to focus on your own situation and health, taking precautions that support you and people who you have sex with. Local clinics are invaluable for up to the minute advice and treatment strategies. Clickbait type reports are more suited to those who aren't involved " | |||
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"The actual latest data is here if anyone is interested. Do note that it is based if testing from a few years ago however. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gonococcal-resistance-to-antimicrobials-surveillance-programme-grasp-report/grasp-report-data-to-june-2023 This is the report of 2022 cases that I found. While it's well worth a read it is entirely factual and, unlike the scaremongering of the OP, makes no reference to swinging clubs in the Midlands. " The quoted part was taken verbatim from the July 2026 internal UKHSA briefing note sent to GPs and GP practices. I don't know wether the public version that will eventually be released will mention swingers clubs but if you want independent verification ask your GP. | |||
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"Since condoms are mandatory at clubs I will run a bet its from Oral sex" I don't agree that condoms are mandatory at swingers clubs. | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. " And how do clubs police this in locked private rooms | |||
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"Since condoms are mandatory at clubs I will run a bet its from Oral sex" Condoms are not mandatory at any club I know. | |||
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"Since condoms are mandatory at clubs I will run a bet its from Oral sex" I have been to around 40 ish clubs in uk / Europe and not once I have ever seen a mandated condom requirement for clients | |||
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"Since condoms are mandatory at clubs I will run a bet its from Oral sex" Clubs treat their members as adults and thus able to manage their own lives. I attended a club abroad, where staff zoomed round with torches, intruding on privacy, to check. It was a mood killer | |||
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"The actual latest data is here if anyone is interested. Do note that it is based if testing from a few years ago however. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gonococcal-resistance-to-antimicrobials-surveillance-programme-grasp-report/grasp-report-data-to-june-2023 This is the report of 2022 cases that I found. While it's well worth a read it is entirely factual and, unlike the scaremongering of the OP, makes no reference to swinging clubs in the Midlands. The quoted part was taken verbatim from the July 2026 internal UKHSA briefing note sent to GPs and GP practices. I don't know wether the public version that will eventually be released will mention swingers clubs but if you want independent verification ask your GP." Then why is there no mention of this document, apparently sent to all GPs, anywhere on the internet? What is the point of sending such a document to GPs if they make no attempt whatsoever, anywhere in the UK, to publicise the information to their public? Moreover, as far as I am aware, all reports by UKHSA are available on the gov.uk website. It is highly irregular, in any event, to circulate an internal briefing note outside the organisation: internal briefing notes are discussion documents that are not peer reviewed. Finally the language of the report you quote is not that of any official UKHSA document. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Indeed. Your ever caring labour government cutting back on the things they don't think matter. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less unfortunately | |||
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"Clubs aside the bareback thing seems to be getting worse if anything. A lady I know joined a couple of months ago and has gone a bit mad with about 40 verifications plus dogging where no veris most likely. She doesn't care and probably all bareback and swallowing. Another lady who I know attends clubs got syphilis which is obviously a really serious one and can be transmitted via oral or even kissing, never mind bareback, and not always visible signs. " That's sad. We test regularly and show each other results in my circle. I was watching a documentary about a gay guy with HIV with a high viral load who intentionally had unprotected sex with other men as a top and came inside them. Some were infected, and some were not; it was just a ridiculous luck of the draw. Not everyone has enough sanity and will power to be careful and selective and do regular testing. I give my partners unprotected oral but I'm wearing in clubs, parties and events to do that with multiple men. The more men the higher the risk. Same for men but there's less women in this lifestyle for various reasons but often linked to SA. | |||
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"Clubs aside the bareback thing seems to be getting worse if anything. A lady I know joined a couple of months ago and has gone a bit mad with about 40 verifications plus dogging where no veris most likely. She doesn't care and probably all bareback and swallowing. Another lady who I know attends clubs got syphilis which is obviously a really serious one and can be transmitted via oral or even kissing, never mind bareback, and not always visible signs. " "Probably bareback and swallowing" ? So you mean you are making assumptions and have no idea? I know of ladies that can get 20 verificatioms in a night at a club and be protected for every bit of it, including condoms for oral. I can get that in a club and it's purely social!! Don't be so presumptuous if you don't actually know, there is no need for judgements on unfounded presumptions. | |||
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"The actual latest data is here if anyone is interested. Do note that it is based if testing from a few years ago however. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gonococcal-resistance-to-antimicrobials-surveillance-programme-grasp-report/grasp-report-data-to-june-2023 This is the report of 2022 cases that I found. While it's well worth a read it is entirely factual and, unlike the scaremongering of the OP, makes no reference to swinging clubs in the Midlands. The quoted part was taken verbatim from the July 2026 internal UKHSA briefing note sent to GPs and GP practices. I don't know wether the public version that will eventually be released will mention swingers clubs but if you want independent verification ask your GP." This is what I thought. That it was not a public knowledge thing. You need access to a specific journal or internal sexual health platform. They don't often release certain things to the public because it might cause a panic. When I go to the clinic in person, they do all the checks and offer me thigns because they know I'm a swinger but they also have access to more recent and live data. They are looking at 100s of genitals and samples a day. They know when the rates are low and when the rates are high but most people just use the home kits so they never interact with a sexual health professional. I go regularly because GP's are generally shit at gynaecology, especially anything to do with hormones. So the clinic checks for STI and STDs be they also check me for any lumps and bumps that could be a fibroid, cyst or tumour. My grandmother had a tumour the size of a grapefruit and didn't know! A lot of women don't know what is going on with their vagina, ovaries or uterus. They have pain or discomfort and they just ignore it. Meanwhile, there are a whole bunch of illnesses that can make us women very, very ill that aren't even sexual diseases or sexual infections. The men only have to worry about their prostate around age 50. age 45 for black men and age 40 for men who have other relatives with cancer. Definitely get educated about transmission and depending on how many partners you have in a month, increase the testing and visits to a sexual health nurse/doctor. Some months I hardly see anyone apart from my regular poly pod partners, like this July gone. Some months I've played with my partners plus several others at clubs and parties. | |||
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"Clubs aside the bareback thing seems to be getting worse if anything. A lady I know joined a couple of months ago and has gone a bit mad with about 40 verifications plus dogging where no veris most likely. She doesn't care and probably all bareback and swallowing. Another lady who I know attends clubs got syphilis which is obviously a really serious one and can be transmitted via oral or even kissing, never mind bareback, and not always visible signs. "Probably bareback and swallowing" ? So you mean you are making assumptions and have no idea? I know of ladies that can get 20 verificatioms in a night at a club and be protected for every bit of it, including condoms for oral. I can get that in a club and it's purely social!! Don't be so presumptuous if you don't actually know, there is no need for judgements on unfounded presumptions. " I mean I do know people who like barebacking and swallowing. I don't do it but people like what they like. I don't judge them for that way of playing...just as I hope they don't judge me for wanting to have protection. I don't know...I just like seeing and feeling the cum on my tits and arse anyway. Lol! Please don't just me for finding creampies boring and facials too overstimulating. Lol! | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less There is no excuse for not testing even if kits aren't available in your area. There will always be a clinic of some sort in or close to your area. And at a clinic because the samples are tested almost immediately there is only a miniscule risk of the test being rejected. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less NHS cutbacks have been going on for a couple of decades if not longer, you cannot blame just labour for this. | |||
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"Wrap up and stay warm in the knowledge that you are doing your bit for the environment Bet I know where the middle finger in Ur pic, goes alit | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Have you tried to find out if it has been replaced by another? SH24 don’t send out direct for free in Norfolk, but via ICASH clinic can order via SH:UK for free. Weirdly provided by Cambridgeshire NHS 🤷♂️ | |||
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"It boggles my brain why you wouldn’t wrap up in a swingers club. People who play bare with strangers scare me. You catch these things through Oral sex. Nobody sane 'wraps up' for oral sex - it just doesn't happen" I may well be insane but I do use (flavoured) condoms for oral sex, always. If men don’t like it, too bad. I would rather not feel that I have to, but I would much rather be fucked without condoms too, and I don’t do that either! I get tested at a clinic at least every three months and the last time I was there a month ago there were notices up warning of increasing transmission of gonorrhoea through oral sex. | |||
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"It boggles my brain why you wouldn’t wrap up in a swingers club. People who play bare with strangers scare me. You catch these things through Oral sex. Nobody sane 'wraps up' for oral sex - it just doesn't happen I may well be insane but I do use (flavoured) condoms for oral sex, always. If men don’t like it, too bad. I would rather not feel that I have to, but I would much rather be fucked without condoms too, and I don’t do that either! I get tested at a clinic at least every three months and the last time I was there a month ago there were notices up warning of increasing transmission of gonorrhoea through oral sex." Not insane. smart. I'm refusing oral blow jobs without protection in London outside of people close to me. Regular Clubmates and poly partners. | |||
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"We'll be absolutely blunt. We have NEVER played 'bare' except orally (honestly we don't like sucking balloons either), but we contracted it a few years ago. Told all openly at the party of the fact too, so they were aware and could take the necessary steps.. Obviously we didn't play in the knowledge and utterly clear on our tests last month. Long story short, if you're not testing genitally, orally or anally it's a possibility you're carrying without knowing. Sorry, but true xx" We do the all 3 test thing because if you tell the provider that you do lots of casual sex or a swinger they automatically send you the swabs for all three. I feel like all sensible people who do what we do should do the all three swabs, only way to stay safe and get treated early on if there is an issue. Luckily we have always come back clean. Very honest of you to tell your experience and very commendable. | |||
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"We'll be absolutely blunt. …… We do the all 3 test thing because if you tell the provider that you do lots of casual sex or a swinger they automatically send you the swabs for all three. I feel like all sensible people who do what we do should do the all three swabs, only way to stay safe and get treated early on if there is an issue. Luckily we have always come back clean. Very honest of you to tell your experience and very commendable. " Yes, everyone who is sexually active on here or otherwise promiscuous should certainly be doing this. The STI clinic that I go to are really nice and helpful and as I was totally frank about my sexuality and promiscuity actually suggested appropriate vaccinations and pills and knowing what a slut I am give me so many condoms that I feel guilty that I have not used them all when I go to be tested again! So far I have been clear every time, but it has meant refusing all sex without condoms and being careful generally. | |||
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"On our sister site, fg, I suggested recently,that based on the rising cases of sti's, that we should have our raincoats on, and was poo poo'd by numerous individuals. I have had my raincoat handy, and it isn't liked, even orally, it won't happen now." Gannex condoms, anyone? | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Dorset Sexual Health have moved from SH:24 to Click-it test kits (the same as we have in Essex). If you register on the Personal Health Record (PHR), you can order kits online. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Since public health is managed by local authorities you'd have to blame the Lib Dems in this instance. | |||
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"We'll be absolutely blunt. Sorry, but true xx Very honest of you to tell your experience and very commendable. " Thank you, felt the respectful and right thing to do No one came forward regards being positive, but without playing for at least 3 months prior or subsequently or was easy to pin point the transmission event. | |||
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"I’ll be fine, I don’t go the Attic" Still got a distain for there after all this time then | |||
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"The amount of people on here who are prepared to have oral with strangers is crazy. Like there is just as much chance of catching most stis this way, but it’s treated like it’s safe??" Agreed. The private chats I’ve had with couples and then once oral is mentioned and I state “it’s risky”or “I don’t wanna catch anything” it then totally ends the chat from their end. WTF. Tells you a lot about standards. | |||
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"The amount of people on here who are prepared to have oral with strangers is crazy. Like there is just as much chance of catching most stis this way, but it’s treated like it’s safe?? Agreed. The private chats I’ve had with couples and then once oral is mentioned and I state “it’s risky”or “I don’t wanna catch anything” it then totally ends the chat from their end. WTF. Tells you a lot about standards. " It’s not about standards , it’s about individual attitudes toward risk. We would respect anyone that insisted on condoms for oral but wouldn’t meet them. It is our preference, just like people are free not to meet us. We know there is risk, we choose to take that risk, because to put it bluntly, we like sucking cock bare, like cum and receiving oral. We test, and so far have never caught anything but accept that may not always be the case. | |||
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"I thought it was a hard rule upheld by the clubs . Anyone caught not using a rubber was told to leave. " Not at all. None of the clubs I’ve been to expressed a “hard rule” of ‘safe sex only’. The closest some got to that was pointing out free condoms were available in the play areas. Not one club ever stated a ‘no rubber and you’re out on your ear’ policy, and I never saw any staff ‘policing’ play areas to check condoms were in use….. Is the new “I got lucky in a club last night” the meaning of ‘I got out with a clean bill of health’? 😁 | |||
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"It is not just assumption as I've met her in person when she first joined and seen lots of posts about meets, dogging etc. I know she loves bareback and doesn't seem to care and I know she loves to swallow and posts about it. I also know she doesn't go to clubs. We don't have one in our area and it is all private meets. I actually said "I know" her so it is you who is being presumptuous assuming it is just some random lady I've come across with 40 veris. " Most people that have met folks are indeed verified are they not? | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Labour?!!! Over the past 15 years, funding for sexual health clinics in England has declined in real terms. Responsibility shifted from the NHS to local authorities in 2013. Real-terms spending dropped from £859 million in 2013/14 to £586 million by 2024/25, even as patient consultations and demand for STI and contraception services surged. So that'll be tory austerity then. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less SH 24 stopped supplying in our area because the local sexual health clinic started online testing kits. They now send the packs out. I think they could see how well the SH model worked and have replicated. You should check your local centre | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less Lol! People have short memories. Lol! Especially when it comes to politics. | |||
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"A worry of mine, sh24 no longer do free kits in my area testing will be less They aren't stopping anything in London. There are multiple clinics and multiple online testing kits. Paid and free. Can't have millions of people shagging unprotected and untested. It would be a public health crisis. The NHS cannot afford that...nor the economy. Heck they have free testing evenings/nights at the spas and sex clubs. | |||
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