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"Just out of curiosity, you ask if anyone’s been on them but your status says “weight loss Injections, inbox for details”. Are you selling them or asking for your own use? 🤔" 🫢 | |||
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"Many years ago I met a male couple who wanted a spit roast with me. It was quite possibly the best sex I've ever had" Wrong thread, holly? 😂😂 | |||
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"Many years ago I met a male couple who wanted a spit roast with me. It was quite possibly the best sex I've ever had" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"It should go without saying but don't inject yourself with anything not given to you by a British doctor or pharmacist from licensed premises (unless you live in another country of course). Last week someone turned out to be injecting themelves with windcreen wash, with predictable results." 20/20 vision? | |||
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"...but what happens when you stop getting jabbed? Always wondered" Puffer fish face immediately I've seen it live | |||
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"Im contemplating them. I spent months training hard with a PT, eating well, doing loads of steps each day. No change in weight (or inches before I get the ‘muscle weighs more than fat’. Even saw a dietician who wanted a month’s worth of food diaries (and I logged everything). They couldn’t understand why I wasn’t losing weight as just food alone and the calorie deficit would have caused weight loss in itself without training on top. I was prescribed weight loss tablets years ago which worked a treat but they’ve since been withdrawn from issue. All bloods that have been repeated over and over are all normal. I’m done battering myself in the gym, scrutinising everything I eat and denying myself treats now and again and getting nowhere. Can’t stand the thought of injecting myself but it’s once a week and hopefully it’ll be worth it in the long run and I may actually see some results from my hard work. Life is too short to be miserable!" If you're insulin resistant its harder to lose weight | |||
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"...but what happens when you stop getting jabbed? Always wondered" If you don't keep up with good diet and exercise you put it back on at twice the speed | |||
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"Sure monjaro has given me blurred vision. Have lost nearly three stone since September. " I have lost 2 and half since end January, no jab though. I am not going to diss anyone who wants to take these things to help them lose weight, trust me after a life of yoyo weight gains and losses I know how hard it is to stay on track. I did consider taking them for a while then decided as I don't normally like injecting stuff into my body and I am not sure those side effects would be something I fancy so I went for the old fashioned way of less calories in. It is hard to get the willpower at the beginning and obviously these jabs take that away but once I was into it... carrying on losing weight is greater temptation than eating what I shouldn't. I know if I stop I may put weight back on if I don't maintain, but by the reports I have seen, when stopping the jabs it seems to make you put it back on faster. | |||
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"I have it as T2 diabetic, not lost 1lb but it has helped my diabetes which is why am on it. I have mounjaro at 5mg and have for 9 months, appetite has massively decreased, I do more exercise but still not lost any weight. Some people react differently so just be open minded x" Have you changed your diet significantly? I've lost a good amount of weight with it but have had to make major changes to my diet, including giving up alcohol | |||
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"I have it as T2 diabetic, not lost 1lb but it has helped my diabetes which is why am on it. I have mounjaro at 5mg and have for 9 months, appetite has massively decreased, I do more exercise but still not lost any weight. Some people react differently so just be open minded x Have you changed your diet significantly? I've lost a good amount of weight with it but have had to make major changes to my diet, including giving up alcohol " Wouldn't doing that without the injections work anyway? | |||
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"I have it as T2 diabetic, not lost 1lb but it has helped my diabetes which is why am on it. I have mounjaro at 5mg and have for 9 months, appetite has massively decreased, I do more exercise but still not lost any weight. Some people react differently so just be open minded x Have you changed your diet significantly? I've lost a good amount of weight with it but have had to make major changes to my diet, including giving up alcohol Wouldn't doing that without the injections work anyway? " It should do but I, like many others on the medication, find it much easier to stick to the dieting, due to reduced appetite and food noise, etc. The meds aren't a magic fat melting tool, as some would hope for but they supplement the necessary dieting very well. They add a choice for people who need to lose weight. | |||
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"Ok but your skin goes ridiculously lose u need to weigh training as well " Everyone has their own unique results, including side effects response. It's the dieting that results in the weight loss - are you stating that everyone on a diet gets 'ridiculously loose...skin'? That doesn't seem to stack up against the evidence. | |||
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"I'm ashamed to say I've lost 16st on mounjaro. 2 years. Never felt better. New mindset. Just don't like my boney coccyx." Congratulations | |||
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"Ok but your skin goes ridiculously lose u need to weigh training as well Everyone has their own unique results, including side effects response. It's the dieting that results in the weight loss - are you stating that everyone on a diet gets 'ridiculously loose...skin'? That doesn't seem to stack up against the evidence. " Unfortunately,and especially with rapid or extreme weight loss, it's a very real situation that will need to be dealt with in future or you live with it. Training will help a little but as we age , elasticity of our skin decreases and there is a limit to what we can achieve naturally. | |||
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"I'm ashamed to say I've lost 16st on mounjaro. 2 years. Never felt better. New mindset. Just don't like my boney coccyx." Great result. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of at all Be proud of yourself. | |||
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"For 20 years I have struggled with my weight, every diet every fad under the sun. Gyms, running, pats. All had varying results but any weight lost comes back on. I have never found it easier to loose weight than since starting the jabs. I have lost over 3 stone. For me it has completely changed my eating habits. No snacking between meals, no binge eating, not constantly hungry like when trying to diet. The food noise I used to have in my head has gone. That’s my experience and I’m carrying on. It’s expensive but I can justify it, I get that not many can’t but this, for me, was last chance saloon. My health was only going one way before this" Completely agree!! This was my story too. I eat healthily. Exercise more than most (2 massive dogs plus gym), tried everything. Did a weightless dna test. It turns out my body only needs 1400 cal a day. Without the jabs 1400 feels like starvation. I’m only taking 3/4 of the second level of dosing (0.5mg) to spread it out. Any more I feel sick and rough. Yes I’m losing waaaaya slower than most. Yes it’s costing more. But, life is too short to be miserable and losing weight while being healthy and no food noise is amazing. | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they " They are an excellent tool to help people with their weight loss journey. Obviously, like all drugs they have side effects and each person will have to decide if these effects can be tolerated. Mostly, tummy troubles, heartburn and constipation, some feelings of sickness etc. The cost is a real consideration. If you are confident once your desired weight is reached you can then use the meds as a tool to help maintain stable weight or then to use the normal willpower, diet, exercise to maintain. If you feel you cannot maintain on the normal willpower etc then it could be you will spend thousands of pounds just to end up back where you started or even heavier. Or, you could use the larger doses to reduce, then small maintenance doses for stability. There are new drugs in the pipeline waiting for approval and it can be envisaged that some folks will have these type of drug for a lifetime, as there is no doubt the health benefits from substantial weight loss are undeniable but once appetite is suppressed a close watch on diet and muscle building / maintenance regime is important. In short, its up to you. As always, chat to your GP and consider the options and as always, best to try an exercise, food, lifestyle option if possible. The initial cost is around £70 for a 4 dose monthly injectable pen. The costs then increase up to around £300 per month when you need the higher doses of around 12.5 mg. It ain't cheap and consideration of what happens when you reach your target weight has to factor into decision making. Good luck. | |||
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"Can appreciate it’s helped a lot of people out who struggle to shift weight the ‘natural way’, but for me the health concerns already coming out of the woodwork is enough of a red flag to not consider it. Same thing with vaping, it’s been widespread for the best part of a decade now and even back then the risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ was a subtle rumour doing the rounds, but it’s now more widespread and recognised as a resulting health concern. Funnily enough this sounds all too familiar when once upon a time smoking was considered good for you, until it was irrefutable that you were doing anything other than healthy when sparking up." Do you know the long term consequences of uncontrolled diabetes? | |||
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"Im contemplating them. I spent months training hard with a PT, eating well, doing loads of steps each day. No change in weight (or inches before I get the ‘muscle weighs more than fat’. Even saw a dietician who wanted a month’s worth of food diaries (and I logged everything). They couldn’t understand why I wasn’t losing weight as just food alone and the calorie deficit would have caused weight loss in itself without training on top. I was prescribed weight loss tablets years ago which worked a treat but they’ve since been withdrawn from issue. All bloods that have been repeated over and over are all normal. I’m done battering myself in the gym, scrutinising everything I eat and denying myself treats now and again and getting nowhere. Can’t stand the thought of injecting myself but it’s once a week and hopefully it’ll be worth it in the long run and I may actually see some results from my hard work. Life is too short to be miserable!" Did your bloods include thyroid levels? | |||
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"I use wegovy, I find it okay, the only real side effect I get is a bit of constipation. Wegovy is the cheaper option too. " Me too. Although have found that if I eat a Galaxy Ripple, I get explosive runs 🙈 (happened twice, linked it with chocolate the 2nd time) | |||
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"Can appreciate it’s helped a lot of people out who struggle to shift weight the ‘natural way’, but for me the health concerns already coming out of the woodwork is enough of a red flag to not consider it. Same thing with vaping, it’s been widespread for the best part of a decade now and even back then the risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ was a subtle rumour doing the rounds, but it’s now more widespread and recognised as a resulting health concern. Funnily enough this sounds all too familiar when once upon a time smoking was considered good for you, until it was irrefutable that you were doing anything other than healthy when sparking up. Do you know the long term consequences of uncontrolled diabetes?" Diabetes is fairly easily controlled now. | |||
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"Can appreciate it’s helped a lot of people out who struggle to shift weight the ‘natural way’, but for me the health concerns already coming out of the woodwork is enough of a red flag to not consider it. Same thing with vaping, it’s been widespread for the best part of a decade now and even back then the risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ was a subtle rumour doing the rounds, but it’s now more widespread and recognised as a resulting health concern. Funnily enough this sounds all too familiar when once upon a time smoking was considered good for you, until it was irrefutable that you were doing anything other than healthy when sparking up." These type of agonist drugs have been around for a very long time in different forms and are very safe but like all drugs do have side effects but nothing that most people in decent health can't tolerate. The dose can easily be changed should effects become an issue and stopping is extremely easy but can lead to a bounce in weight gain, so a wean off is best. | |||
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"My dad was in hospital the other month. Was told by the doctors that the specialist ward he was in, kidney, pancreas etc, was full of people with side effects to these weight loss jabs, so be careful people. Especially if the deal looks too good to be true, no idea how many dodgy knock off jabs exist these days " Your scare ref a hospital ward being full of people prescribed this type of medication, needs to be balanced with the evidence of overall improvements to health, that the majority of people get, as well as reductions in major adverse cardiovascular events too. | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they They are an excellent tool to help people with their weight loss journey. Obviously, like all drugs they have side effects and each person will have to decide if these effects can be tolerated. Mostly, tummy troubles, heartburn and constipation, some feelings of sickness etc. The cost is a real consideration. If you are confident once your desired weight is reached you can then use the meds as a tool to help maintain stable weight or then to use the normal willpower, diet, exercise to maintain. If you feel you cannot maintain on the normal willpower etc then it could be you will spend thousands of pounds just to end up back where you started or even heavier. Or, you could use the larger doses to reduce, then small maintenance doses for stability. There are new drugs in the pipeline waiting for approval and it can be envisaged that some folks will have these type of drug for a lifetime, as there is no doubt the health benefits from substantial weight loss are undeniable but once appetite is suppressed a close watch on diet and muscle building / maintenance regime is important. In short, its up to you. As always, chat to your GP and consider the options and as always, best to try an exercise, food, lifestyle option if possible. The initial cost is around £70 for a 4 dose monthly injectable pen. The costs then increase up to around £300 per month when you need the higher doses of around 12.5 mg. It ain't cheap and consideration of what happens when you reach your target weight has to factor into decision making. Good luck. Many people never need to go up to the higher doses to lose a healthy amount of weight at a healthily , my advice is do your own research and chat to your GP and ask questions. Also don’t start unless you know you are going to be able to fund it for a while | |||
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"Some people have lost a lot, a lot of weight with them. Complete transformations. If that helps them, the more power to them. Personally, I didn’t want to pay over £200 a month for something I could do on my own initiative. But I didn’t have that much weight to lose in the first place. I’ve lost 2 stone with lifestyle changes and still have another stone to lose. I have diabetes 2 so in theory eligible for them on the NHS but my BMI was never high enough for them to prescribe it to me. It seems they are a very good medicine. If people are able to use them to aid a healthier lifestyle, great. I’m one of those people - they enabled me to change my lifestyle | |||
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"If my understanding is correct it’s a GLP1 blocker. It interferes with appetite and urge to eat. It also interferes with what gets digested/absorbed. So far so good. Lack of appetite and not absorbing enough nutrients is ofcourse not great! Also it’s been reported that it causes muscle mass loss, maybe fats too. But muscle mass is worrying! Muscles are not only those showy biceps and abs, but heart muscles, muscles in the arteries probably will all get affected indiscriminately. I can not imagine it be good long term and would rather avoid and try something else. Caution; stopping is also not as straightforward as one would think. The lost muscle mass gets replaced with fats! I think the Pharma industry is again pushing irresponsibly a medication that isn’t fully researched. Let’s wait and see" . Totally agree with this , everyone can lose weight the natural way without injecting drugs , go to the gym weight train , walk as much as you can manage everyday, stop eating rubbish and fill up on healthy food instead and stay in calorie deficit and your body with definitely improve in so many ways.. | |||
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"If my understanding is correct it’s a GLP1 blocker. It interferes with appetite and urge to eat. It also interferes with what gets digested/absorbed. So far so good. Lack of appetite and not absorbing enough nutrients is ofcourse not great! Also it’s been reported that it causes muscle mass loss, maybe fats too. But muscle mass is worrying! Muscles are not only those showy biceps and abs, but heart muscles, muscles in the arteries probably will all get affected indiscriminately. I can not imagine it be good long term and would rather avoid and try something else. Caution; stopping is also not as straightforward as one would think. The lost muscle mass gets replaced with fats! I think the Pharma industry is again pushing irresponsibly a medication that isn’t fully researched. Let’s wait and see. Totally agree with this , everyone can lose weight the natural way without injecting drugs , go to the gym weight train , walk as much as you can manage everyday, stop eating rubbish and fill up on healthy food instead and stay in calorie deficit and your body with definitely improve in so many ways.." That's the whole point of the jabs, some people don't have the same biochemistry to cause satiation. If it was as easy as just deciding not to eat bad food, and go to the gym more, people would. The whole point of a GLP-1 is it triggers satiation easier so you people don't eat as much. It slows down digestion, keeping you fuller for longer allowing you to return to a healthier food intake. GIP then increases your insulin sensitivity, meaning you get a better insulin spike to help your body utilise fats more effectively. The benefits of theses single and double agonising peptides, even in people who would be considered just outside a healthy bodyweight is staggering. And that's before you get into the realms of the stuff not on the shelves. There's a world of stuff out there, and more people are biohacking themselves every day. Don't want to get on a sunbed? Melanotan. Dodgy joints? BPC. All these jabs are working wonders for people, and they're all naturally occurring within the body, but we have varying levels from person to person. Mounjaro is no different to weight loss to a knee brace with running. You've still got to do the work, it's just that help to stop you failing. | |||
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"Can appreciate it’s helped a lot of people out who struggle to shift weight the ‘natural way’, but for me the health concerns already coming out of the woodwork is enough of a red flag to not consider it. Same thing with vaping, it’s been widespread for the best part of a decade now and even back then the risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ was a subtle rumour doing the rounds, but it’s now more widespread and recognised as a resulting health concern. Funnily enough this sounds all too familiar when once upon a time smoking was considered good for you, until it was irrefutable that you were doing anything other than healthy when sparking up." Zero confirmed cases of popcorn lung in the UK. Not saying they're good, just correcting that point. These "drugs" in the pens are naturally occurring within the body anyway, what the pens do is allow people who have lower levels naturally occurring to boost the level (and those who choose to to enhance their levels) The side effects of the peptides are minimal compared with things like AAS's | |||
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"Can appreciate it’s helped a lot of people out who struggle to shift weight the ‘natural way’, but for me the health concerns already coming out of the woodwork is enough of a red flag to not consider it. Same thing with vaping, it’s been widespread for the best part of a decade now and even back then the risk of ‘Popcorn Lung’ was a subtle rumour doing the rounds, but it’s now more widespread and recognised as a resulting health concern. Funnily enough this sounds all too familiar when once upon a time smoking was considered good for you, until it was irrefutable that you were doing anything other than healthy when sparking up. Do you know the long term consequences of uncontrolled diabetes? Diabetes is fairly easily controlled now." Only if you know you have it. | |||
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"I use wegovy, I find it okay, the only real side effect I get is a bit of constipation. Wegovy is the cheaper option too. Me too. Although have found that if I eat a Galaxy Ripple, I get explosive runs 🙈 (happened twice, linked it with chocolate the 2nd time) " I've not had any chocolate to be honest. I might just give it a wide birth now haha. Milk made me ill when I was talking Mounjaro. I was uncontrollably sick 🤢 | |||
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"These weight loss jabs seem to be showing worrying side effects and remember they were not developed for weight loss originally but for diabetes treatments. Apparently there is a 2 billion dollar lawsuit against one of the better known jab because of a thyroid cancer side effect that was covered up. Not to be a tin foil hat type but the pharma industry is probably one of the most untrustworthy industries out there, known to suppress known cures in order to promote long term treatments amongst other very questionable practices. What were we talking about again. " Is there any actual evidence to support your claim that cures are being suppressed? | |||
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"The few people l know on it because of diabetes have lost loads. Also l know a woman that pays privately for them lost 3 stone. Be intrested if these tablets work just as well seen them cheapest £50 per month " Everyone reacts differently to each of the meds, including the form they are produced in. The strongest results, of UK licensed meds, seems to be from Mounjaro, an injectable med. | |||
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"Not keen on taking any medication to be honest. Vast majority can lose the weight without taking the jabs but most don’t want to put the effort in to doing that. Unpopular opinion but people generally become overweight due to lazy/sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. Both of which can be changed without medication. Also, it is quite obvious to see who is taking the jabs and who are losing the weight sensibly…. Have a look at necks of people taking the jab. Life choices I guess " You're not allowed to say this. Granted, it's possibly true but the woke police don't allow it anymore. But do you know how much money obesity costs the NHS? I blame McDonald's! Lol | |||
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" Unpopular opinion but people generally become overweight due to lazy/sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. Both of which can be changed without medication. " I've spent more than 40 years trying to change these and failed. Simply telling fat people they are failures and not trying hard enough doesn't work. Weight loss jobs are not a quick fix, its still bloody hard work | |||
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" Unpopular opinion but people generally become overweight due to lazy/sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. Both of which can be changed without medication. I've spent more than 40 years trying to change these and failed. Simply telling fat people they are failures and not trying hard enough doesn't work. Weight loss jobs are not a quick fix, its still bloody hard work" People who tend to stay slim naturally will never understand people who struggle to stay within a good weight range ( doctors ranges are really harsh for me ) I was with a man who could eat anything he liked and could never put on weight ( he wanted to put some on ) He used to have twice as much as me on his dinner plate, eat snacks inbetween meals, loved chocolate, the amount of calories he ate was unreal and yet always stayed the same weight. Even when he stopped doing his manual job he stayed the same weight without dropping how much food he ate. Yet if I went over a maintaining calorie allowance that would be me putting on weight straight away. I knew a woman who could eat the same as the person above and she had the same attitude as the post you quoted. She had a third baby and something changed in her and anything she ate over what a normal person would eat made her put on weight...she changed her mind about "people generally become overweight due to lazy/sedentary lifestyle and poor diet" after that. | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they " At my heaviest I was 136kg, today I am 114kg. I've gone from a 42in waiste to a 36in waiste and back into an XL polo shirt. Back in May I ordered some new Polos, all XXXL and they drown me now. BMI has gone from 38 down to 31.3 and falling. Personally, I don't want to go any smaller or lighter. I'll be more than happy to sit at 110kg (17st 4lbs). I'm back in the gym, pain and ache free. (my personal history was in sport at a high level). There's a lot less pressure on my back, hips and knees. I know everyone says this, but diet is key. You need to keep your protein intake high and also other things like Vit D. If you go down the GLP-1 route, then it would be wise to get back in the gym too and also invest in a good whey protein that suppliments GLP-1. For me, it has worked. I was losing weight anyway and got from 136kg to 130kg without the jabs.... Good luck. Make the choice for yourself, your heart and your pancreas. | |||
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"It should go without saying but don't inject yourself with anything not given to you by a British doctor or pharmacist from licensed premises (unless you live in another country of course). Last week someone turned out to be injecting themelves with windcreen wash, with predictable results. 20/20 vision?" This is my kind of reply. | |||
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"I’m a big fan of working out and earning your weight and fitness, people have had ab and bicep implants and I think that’s great but better to earn it. For the weight loss drugs though these are great, we all have different metabolisms, I’ve never really had any weight issues and can eat whatever I want. I would be interested though if the GLP1 would even help me to cut out the bad snacks and get a permanent 6 pack. As for the benefits?? Maybe the reduction in inflammation will stop dementia, heart disease etc … great stuff great science" Even on the weightloss meds, you'd still need to make the dietary changes to achieve results. It's a multi pronged approach, with the meds facilitating. Plus, as with all medication, individual results vary. | |||
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"I’m a big fan of working out and earning your weight and fitness, people have had ab and bicep implants and I think that’s great but better to earn it. For the weight loss drugs though these are great, we all have different metabolisms, I’ve never really had any weight issues and can eat whatever I want. I would be interested though if the GLP1 would even help me to cut out the bad snacks and get a permanent 6 pack. As for the benefits?? Maybe the reduction in inflammation will stop dementia, heart disease etc … great stuff great science Even on the weightloss meds, you'd still need to make the dietary changes to achieve results. It's a multi pronged approach, with the meds facilitating. Plus, as with all medication, individual results vary. " Yes it's a complete lifestyle change I notice if I eat too much I don't lose any weight same if I don't exercise. I was put on ozempic for diabetes management | |||
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"My friend is on the weight loss jab , it don't seem to be working he's not lost anything in the past 6 months, more like maintaining his weight " There are several medications now and everybody reacts to them each differently. People usually start at the lowest dose and continue to progress, if effective or change medication or doses, etc. The prescriber would be expected to review results and effects regularly. Some people are put on maintenance doses, to maintain their weight, rather than losing more - but I'm assuming your friend isn't in that position. It doesn't sound very effective for them, if they've had it for several months, have changed their diet and not lost weight. It's important that people still have to change their diet, otherwise the same lifestyle before and after meditation, would probably mean no weight is lost. Normally, after a few weeks, the meds stabilise and they become effective. The unusual thing is that the licensed prescriber would be responsible for reviewing progress, whilst issuing further prescriptions. If doses have been increased, for example, whilst no weight has been lost, wouldn't be generally standard, unless it's not being prescribed for weight loss. All that said, dieting and losing weight can be very hard - the meds can give a step up to help, by reducing some causes of hunger. They're not guaranteed to have every user to lose weight though - they'll have to diet consistently and thus the support they get, can be helpful for this. | |||
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"My friend is on the weight loss jab , it don't seem to be working he's not lost anything in the past 6 months, more like maintaining his weight " Not too sure where your friend is purchasing their jab but the prescribers don't seem to be monitoring as the dose should be increased each month as tolerable alongside weight loss monitoring. Either your friend is telling fibs, they are obtaining from a less than reputable source or stayed on starter dose, mainly due to cost, the starter dose of say 2.5mg will not be effective as its mostly used to check the patient can tolerate these types of medication, once tolerated then dose is increased until a steady weight loss is obtained. Either contact prescriber or company selling him the jab and ask for clarification or move to a different company. All online companies like Bolt show cheap prices but this is for starter doses, the price rises quite rapidly once dose increases, almost all suppliers charge about the same. Good luck. | |||
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"My friend is on the weight loss jab , it don't seem to be working he's not lost anything in the past 6 months, more like maintaining his weight " This was my issue. I did eat healthier as it changed the nature of my cravings but I didn't lose any weight. | |||
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"Do some research on protein intake and the jabs. The body will eat muscle as well as fat to get energy when in calorie deficit, which gives folks a distinctive flat bum that is associated with these jabs, but also loses overall strength and shape. Taking protein ensures you have your normal muscle repair happening. Even better if you pair it with some gym work, even if light. The lady I know that took the jabs also did very low doses, but she lost loads of weight. But I don't think she was eating enough, she had one meal a day, usually a fish or Feta/Halloumi salad and I think it would have been about 600-700 calories, leaving her with a huge deficit for her size. She seems healthy enough but to me it all sounds like to much too fast." I have lost a lot of muscle and I feel it doing every day tasks. Climbing stairs opening tins can be a challenge. Unfortunately I have other health conditions that make most types of exercise a huge challenge but yes you must do strength training exercises. I have diabetes so the shot is part of my medication to solve that issue. | |||
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"Do some research on protein intake and the jabs. The body will eat muscle as well as fat to get energy when in calorie deficit, which gives folks a distinctive flat bum that is associated with these jabs, but also loses overall strength and shape. Taking protein ensures you have your normal muscle repair happening. Even better if you pair it with some gym work, even if light. The lady I know that took the jabs also did very low doses, but she lost loads of weight. But I don't think she was eating enough, she had one meal a day, usually a fish or Feta/Halloumi salad and I think it would have been about 600-700 calories, leaving her with a huge deficit for her size. She seems healthy enough but to me it all sounds like to much too fast." It definitely sounds like much too fast a weightloss approach and potentially unhealthy. Slow, progressive weightloss is the ideal, with the accompanying right nutrition. Unfortunately, as we've seen since time immemorial, there are a lot of people who are so desperate to lose weight too quickly. It tends not to be sustainable weight loss in the longer term. | |||
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"Do some research on protein intake and the jabs. The body will eat muscle as well as fat to get energy when in calorie deficit, which gives folks a distinctive flat bum that is associated with these jabs, but also loses overall strength and shape. Taking protein ensures you have your normal muscle repair happening. Even better if you pair it with some gym work, even if light. The lady I know that took the jabs also did very low doses, but she lost loads of weight. But I don't think she was eating enough, she had one meal a day, usually a fish or Feta/Halloumi salad and I think it would have been about 600-700 calories, leaving her with a huge deficit for her size. She seems healthy enough but to me it all sounds like to much too fast." Add to this that the older we get, the less elasticity our skin has, so weight loss at too high a rate will result in a load of excess skin just hanging around. | |||
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"I'm good friends with a lady who specialises in non-invasive plastic surgery, worldwide award winning consultant, if she says fat jabs are bad, id tend to believe her . " She might have a conflict of interest plus be a specialist in an unrelated field. Has she published research evidence, in respected scientific journals, on any of these medications? It would be helpful to know what they are, once peer reviewed. | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they " From what friends have told me there are lots of side effects. And no one yet knows the long term effects. So personally I would leave them alone unless they are of a health benefit to you. | |||
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"I'm good friends with a lady who specialises in non-invasive plastic surgery, worldwide award winning consultant, if she says fat jabs are bad, id tend to believe her . She might have a conflict of interest plus be a specialist in an unrelated field. Has she published research evidence, in respected scientific journals, on any of these medications? It would be helpful to know what they are, once peer reviewed. " Not at all buddy, she was obese from an early age, went to Turkey for surgery, was in ICU in Ireland for 6 months after they butchered her in Turkey and nearly died on the flight home. She studied and got her PhD and countless degrees and masters ,and promised no other girl would go through what she went through. Literally world famous, has a column in an Irish broadsheet. Some people just do it because it's the right thing to do. | |||
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"In the short term they are pretty good. But if you do some research people are finding long term effects of them. Also if you are losing a lot of weight. You will end up with loose and flappy skin because you lost it too fast and your body didn't have time to adjust. Surgery is then needed to remove that " I think the majority who struggle after giving up the injections are those who use it for cosmetic weight loss (as opposed to medical). I have been put on it by my Dr as I have Type 2 diabetes and my sugars were sky high, in their high 20’s at my pre book in for the jab. My Dr was shook. My recent bloods that I have taken at home are down to 5.2, which frankly is amazing. That’s after 2 months. That said I’m not just taking the jab and expecting it to do all the work. I am watching what I eat and I am exercising (walking) more (and weights) and trying to increase my steps week by week. The jabs are NOT a miracle cure. Yes they work in the short term to lose weight, but to maintain that weight loss you have to sort your diet/exercise regime out. My Dr told me explicitly that I was not on it for weight loss. I was put on it for blood sugars (otherwise it would have been insulin). Any weight loss would be a side effect only. I have lost weight, but it hasn’t fallen off like social media vids would have you believe. It is slow but steady. I have previously lost over 7 stone myself in the past and I have had 2 kids, so I fully anticipate that I will look like a melted candle, albeit I am doing kettlebell weight exercises alongside my walking. But I am 51 and realistic. It is more important for me to be healthy enough to continue to care for my mum and my youngest who is autistic, far into the future, not what I look like in the mirror (although a smaller dress size is always nice). Being fat has risks, the jabs have risks. You just have to pick your poison. | |||
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"Get out there and exercise. These weight loss injections will have side effects and when people start experiencing side effects they'll have other issues. The best way to lose weight is exercise, be active, be social. It's a lost art these days and it's sad to see. A friend of mine was thinking about the jab but then decided to start going on walks daily and the money she'd have spent on the jabs she saved and spent on new clothes. She's lost 3 stone just by changing her diet slighty and exercising and no has a brand new wardrobe. She said its the biggest sense of achievement rather than relying on a jab." The injections don't come without the need for dieting and exercise, they do make weight loss more likely to be sustained and effective, compared to not using them. | |||
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"In the short term they are pretty good. But if you do some research people are finding long term effects of them. Also if you are losing a lot of weight. You will end up with loose and flappy skin because you lost it too fast and your body didn't have time to adjust. Surgery is then needed to remove that " Most people don't need to have surgical skin removal, due to the slow, progressive weight loss that these meds can enable. Fast, huge amounts of weight loss are not healthy, not the objective of them, thank goodness. | |||
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"It should go without saying but don't inject yourself with anything not given to you by a British doctor or pharmacist from licensed premises (unless you live in another country of course). Last week someone turned out to be injecting themelves with windcreen wash, with predictable results." a clean bill of health .but moods made him clearly transparent | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they " I find the mental question around them interesting… is it an easy way out? Is it a medical miracle? Have we been conditioned to see “losing weight” as needing to be tough and earned? | |||
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"What do people think about weight loss injections and how much are they I find the mental question around them interesting… is it an easy way out? Is it a medical miracle? Have we been conditioned to see “losing weight” as needing to be tough and earned? " So I can say to this it is absolutely not an easy way out. Just because you have them doesn’t mean you don’t have to put in the same work as you would need to without them. I’m approaching 10 weeks on MJ, have been on 5mg for 3 weeks. My eating habits weren’t bad before I started, nor was food noise and my appetite was virtually non existent anyway, but we suspected a lot of insulin resistance as the cause for me not losing weight before despite putting in a lot of effort consistently. I have currently gained 2lbs, and aside from that my weight on the scales hasn’t changed at all. This is with macros calculated, nutritionally dense foods and controlled portions. Most days I have no appetite at all but force myself to eat small portions as I know eating nothing won’t help. Even without moving more, I should have lost weight on the scales by now and my nurse is struggling to understand why I’m not. However, I have been weight training (sporadically due to life issues, but still putting in good effort) and what I have see is a drop in inches, which means that some fat is turning to muscle which is why the scales are unlikely to be moving since I started training. My diabetic bloods are also decreasing, proving that the insulin resistance is playing a part in it (not diabetic but was approaching pre diabetic). For those who believe it’s a quick fix and they don’t have to put the effort in, they’ll get a shock. You can’t keep eating the same crap, just in smaller amounts because it’s reduced your appetite and expect to lose weight without putting in any additional effort. It isn’t just a quick fix - it is a complete lifestyle overhaul and if you don’t want to do that then you may as well roll up your cash and smoke it for all the good it’ll do you | |||
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"Lost 8kg in 2 and a bit weeks so far in the jab " That does sound like an incredible amount of weight to drop in 2 weeks. Are you concerned it's potentially too much, too fast? (I'm not immune to wanting things fast for myself - I think it's a natural human demand.) I'm concerned that it's possibly excessive, for the timescale and might make it less sustainable, in the longer term. 4Kg a week sounds like a lot | |||
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"I'm diabetic and my bloods are sky high even with multiple medications. Saw nurse last week after blood tests and she's taken me off glicazide and put me on mounjaro. I'm being monitored 3 weekly to see if it lowers my bloods, and hopefully lose a few pounds. " Your bloods will be the most important. It’s done wonders for mine that were sky high. It can take up to a year to get it under control though and weight loss will be a side effect and not the main goal (and more likely once sugars are kept under control). Keep that in mind and don’t get disheartened if weight loss doesn’t happen immediately. | |||
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"Works for some and won't work for others.. for those morbedly obese any changes will work" I’ve not come across anyone they don’t work for, if it doesn’t work it’s possibly fake. | |||
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"It’s more a generation thing wasn’t so many overweight folk in 60s until end of 90s to much convenience foods on market we both eat well but sensibly " Now there's a thought! Not one to be shared by the woke brigade but you may have a point! | |||
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"It’s more a generation thing wasn’t so many overweight folk in 60s until end of 90s to much convenience foods on market we both eat well but sensibly Now there's a thought! Not one to be shared by the woke brigade but you may have a point!" I’m not sure what’s woke about acknowledging people were generally thinner then . Nobody is disputing that. The interesting bit is why and everyone just had more willpower until the 90s can be quickly dismantled and probably isn’t going to survive much scrutiny. Obesity advocacy isn’t denying obesity or pretending lifestyle is irrelevant. It’s recognising why it’s become more a crisis and food is cheaper, more heavily marketed, more calorie dense and more readily available, while people’s environments and routines have become less active. Genetics, stress, sleep, medication and social and economic factors matter too. Dropping the moral judgement and supporting treatments that actually work seems considerably more useful than blaming a global collapse in selfcontrol. | |||
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