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By *am Pullme OP   Man
22 weeks ago

Twickenham

In the news today.

Wes Streeting has set this as a target.

If you attend A and E for anything that needs a blood test you are automatically screened unless you opt out.

Sounds like a plan. Thoughts?

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
22 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

It's World AIDS day today, hence Streeting making announcements.

It's been an international target for some time.

HIV healthcare has come on a lot in 40 years, its now classed as a long term health condition, but not without some potential long term complications.

This isn't universal and some political parties are making backward steps.

Opt Out testing has been rolled out in A&E for about a year.

Stigma, and ignorance about HIV is still very prevalent.

U=U.

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By *am Pullme OP   Man
22 weeks ago

Twickenham

The news was reporting increased in sections of society not normally seen as the highest risk.

Decreasing in those it is usually associated with.

Didn’t realise it was World Aids Day, it is good that it is in the news, I hope the publicity helps.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
22 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

Hence the Opt out testing to get to the small proportion of people who live with HIV and don't know.

Other people don't know a lot about risk and STI generally or are risk tolerant.

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By *arkdawsonMan
22 weeks ago

around

Oh there just 5 years to late unfortunately! Ah well …….

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By *uper SaiyanMan
22 weeks ago

Birmingham

Late or not it sounds like a good thing overall. I would say its a bit ambition of a time frame though.

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By *ff_to_button_moonCouple
22 weeks ago

Button Moon (S.Central Hampshire)

I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.

Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).

The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea.

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By *hild_of_60Man
22 weeks ago

Preston

Routine testing for HIV in my opinion should have been introduced thirty years ago. The fact that a person can be infected, contagious and asyptomatic for a period up to twenty to twenty five years is scary.

There around 1,300 new case of HIV per year in the UK and almost all of them are late diagnosis. During the intervening time from infection to diagnosis only the first six to eight weeks ie, prior to seroconversion is the person incapable of transmitting, that is a bloody long time especially in a highly promiscuous individual.

Personally any blood test should also include an HIV screening as routine.

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By *londebiguyMan
22 weeks ago

Southport

It's very definitely a step in the right direction and could save many people from contracting the virus.

Everyone should be testing regularly

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By *ayKellyMan
19 weeks ago

Kinross


"In the news today.

Wes Streeting has set this as a target.

If you attend A and E for anything that needs a blood test you are automatically screened unless you opt out.

Sounds like a plan. Thoughts? "

5 years is still a lot of risk

Good luck to you all who don't practice safe sex

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By *uriousCouple20224Couple
19 weeks ago

nottingham


"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.

Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).

The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."

That is wild unfounded speculation although I do agree that men who have sex with men are at greater risk however they might define themselves our whatever type of main relationship they are in

"Key Increases in HIV Diagnoses (England, 2023-2024 data)

While new diagnoses among gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (GBMSM) have generally declined over the long term, the number of diagnoses has risen significantly in other demographics.

Heterosexual Men and Women: Diagnoses among heterosexual populations have risen significantly, particularly outside of London.

Black African and Asian Populations: Diagnoses in Black African populations increased by 80% (comparing 2024 to 2019 data) and Asian populations increased by 40%.

In 2023, Black African people accounted for 54% of all new HIV diagnoses in the UK."

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By *uriousCouple20224Couple
19 weeks ago

nottingham

"Diagnoses Made Abroad: A significant portion of reported diagnoses (around 53% in 2023 in England) are people who were previously diagnosed in another country and are continuing their care in the UK. These individuals are usually linked to care quickly and do not necessarily reflect new transmissions within the UK. "

So it's quite clear from the data that a large proportion driving the numbers up, are people who already have HIV imagrating to the UK.

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By *-lestaTV/TS
19 weeks ago

Leicester

The guidelines for prep were changed a while ago but MF swingers need to be more honest when attending sexual health. Doxy pep and the meningitis (gonorrhea), mpox, hep a and b are also available for people who are at high risk.

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By *hager777Man
19 weeks ago

Hereford

Talk to your clinic, and be careful when abroad, especially in countries that don't have the same level of testing or access to prep etc. One night of pleasure could mean years of problems

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By *andykevin56Man
19 weeks ago

Grays

Do you believe everything you see on the news?

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By *ondiego85Man
19 weeks ago

nottingham


"Do you believe everything you see on the news?"

There, mate. Your tin foil hat fell. You’re welcome.

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By *ymac580Man
19 weeks ago

Derby

If folks tested took meds if positive

And took prep

Surely it's reasonable to expect it to drop right off

More worrying perhaps is the rise of antibiotic resistant ghonorea and Chlamydia

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
19 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"If folks tested took meds if positive

And took prep

Surely it's reasonable to expect it to drop right off

More worrying perhaps is the rise of antibiotic resistant ghonorea and Chlamydia "

If ?

95% of people who know their status and are positive take consistent medication, so are undetectable & untransmittable (U=U).

Its the small portion of folks that are undiagnosed that pose a risk to their own health and those they have sex with.

Hence opt out testing in some A&E depts, that are currently in areas of highest likely risk nationally.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
19 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

And yes other STI pose long term health risks too.

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By *londebiguyMan
17 weeks ago

Southport


"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.

Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).

The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."

There are indeed many who are just not testing and not taking risks seriously.

They think that these things only happen to gay men for sone unknown reason.

Unless everyone starts to take control of their sexual health then these infections will continue to spread and the incredible advances in medicine in the area is not going to make the difference that it should do.

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By *ulu and MonkeyCouple
17 weeks ago

Durham

Vax for gonorrhea?

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
17 weeks ago

near Putney Heath

Yup I just say this reading about prep.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/10/nhs-to-roll-out-first-long-acting-injection-to-prevent-hiv/#:~:text=PrEP%20drugs%20can%20prevent%20people,and%20becoming%20an%20established%20infection.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
Forum Mod
17 weeks ago

Central


"Yup I just say this reading about prep.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/10/nhs-to-roll-out-first-long-acting-injection-to-prevent-hiv/#:~:text=PrEP%20drugs%20can%20prevent%20people,and%20becoming%20an%20established%20infection."

Good news

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By *asualandFeistyCouple
17 weeks ago

Uxbridge

Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
17 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?"

I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.

Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.

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By *asualandFeistyCouple
17 weeks ago

Uxbridge


"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?

I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.

Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace. "

Thankyou.

We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
17 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?

I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.

Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.

Thankyou.

We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on."

Sorry, my op was unclear. If the LGBT provider do do testing. They'll have staff that are knowledgeable about vaccines and new treatments and can probably help you access them.

Ditto in person STI services.

Is that clearer ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
Forum Mod
17 weeks ago

Central


"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?

I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.

Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.

Thankyou.

We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on."

If you can get to a clinic, the staff are generally very helpful and can be a mine of useful information. They'll update you on vaccine availability etc too. Mine was out of the gonorrhoea vaccine booster I'm waiting for last visit but explained how much they get and thus when to revisit, last time.

They help well over the phone too. You might be amazed at how friendly and helpful they are.

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By *asualandFeistyCouple
17 weeks ago

Uxbridge


"Interesting. As we're fairly fresh to play, we've discovered the testing service which were planning to use ever 3 months. I never knew about the vaccines though. Do these tend to be available on request? Or do you need to hit certain criteria?

I'd track down your local LGBT charity and see if they do STI / HIV testing. They tend to be knowledgeable and motivated to help you.

Also worth checking in with your NHS STI services, some of them are ace.

Thankyou.

We used SH:24 for testing. It was the vaccines that I lack knowledge on.

If you can get to a clinic, the staff are generally very helpful and can be a mine of useful information. They'll update you on vaccine availability etc too. Mine was out of the gonorrhoea vaccine booster I'm waiting for last visit but explained how much they get and thus when to revisit, last time.

They help well over the phone too. You might be amazed at how friendly and helpful they are. "

Thankyou

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By *nnandElleCouple
17 weeks ago

Brackley


"I can it almost becoming zero among the MSM (men having sex with men) community thanks to the huge amount of resource being thrown at it by the NHS with free prep and testing etc, and also that with medication, those that have it can be untransmissable. The rise is going to be among swingers couples who indulge in bareback and 'secret bi guys' who are playing around without protection or prep.

Ignoring all the stigmas that still seen to exist out there (always bubbling up in any forum thread about 'would you meet a bi-cpl or male', a bi or gay male who is properly in the loop with all that is available to them can be the safest person you have sex with (from a group of those who have sex routinely with others). They are likely to have vaccinations for Hep, Mpox, gonorrhoea and HPV as well as daily prep and post-play doxy pep. Plus, they are almost certainly testing regularly (which gives them access to the prep).

The NHS need to start focussing more on the MF swinging community as this is where the nasties are really starting to work their way around, especially gonorrhoea."

100% this!!!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
12 weeks ago

Crawley Down

Surely this won't be achieved, as so many people won't take vaccines.

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By (user no longer on site)
12 weeks ago


"Surely this won't be achieved, as so many people won't take vaccines."
. I’ve just received my test results , all clear plus on prep and only safe sex with strangers

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By *d8567Man
12 weeks ago

Alsager

No chance more lies from the Labour Party

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
12 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"No chance more lies from the Labour Party "

What on earth are you wittering about.

This is an international health goal.

Although supported by government funding thru the NHS and other health bodies, its largely not a politically driven initiative.

Use your brain before your keyboard.

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By *d8567Man
12 weeks ago

Alsager

It may be a good idea but alas I fear it will not happen is I am saying I doubt if any government could achieve it I have thought about it

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By *d8567Man
12 weeks ago

Alsager

If it was the wicked tories I would still think they were lying more lies from the lying tories of course what do I know

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By *d8567Man
12 weeks ago

Alsager

Maybe some of the other posters should use their mind’s instead of believing propaganda

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By * D 777Man
12 weeks ago

bathgate

Having a good read an learning new things , quite an eye opener

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By *d8567Man
12 weeks ago

Alsager

I remember the Anti AIDS campaign authorised by the conservatives AIDS is not prejudiced and don’t die of ignorance I think a similar campaign is needed today

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
11 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"I remember the Anti AIDS campaign authorised by the conservatives AIDS is not prejudiced and don’t die of ignorance I think a similar campaign is needed today "

Pretty sure the Zero HIV by 2030 is that campaign.

Go look up FastTrack cities and you'll find all the info on the initiative you need.

No labour propaganda, I promise.

👍

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