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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses" I pity their spouses whether they test or not, play with men, women or TV/TV's or not and whether they're educated or ignorant or not. I pity their spouses simply because they're here. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses I pity their spouses whether they test or not, play with men, women or TV/TV's or not and whether they're educated or ignorant or not. I pity their spouses simply because they're here. 🤷♂️" If this site deleted the profiles of everyone who had an unknowing partner it would lose 80% of it's membership. Almost every man Ive met is attached in some way | |||
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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses I pity their spouses whether they test or not, play with men, women or TV/TV's or not and whether they're educated or ignorant or not. I pity their spouses simply because they're here. 🤷♂️ If this site deleted the profiles of everyone who had an unknowing partner it would lose 80% of it's membership. Almost every man Ive met is attached in some way " Personally my thought on that is....'and?'. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Unfortunately women are more biologically at risk due to far greater mucus membrane area. A look at the figures immediately reveals who has the most to do regarding STI prevention. Heterosexual men are among the lowest in new sti infections. Only women who have sex only with women account for less. Men who have sex with men account for 17% but heterosexual women account for most of all at 46%. " How many of those hetro women caught the Sti from a guy who met another man? The amount of guys on here who are straight, yet will meet men is crazy. I've no doubt plenty of guys who are with women are sneaking around with guys. | |||
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"I find some don't even wear condoms, it's all very strange to me. Sure condoms are not 100% safe nothing is but come safer sex is better than not. People genuinely worry me sometimes, even if you become fwbs etc, if they're sleeping with others and then those people are sleeping with others. You have no idea really. I do feel for the wives who have no idea and are being put at risk. " | |||
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" Most nasties can get passed on via oral, while prep is more effective than condoms for vaginal and anal (unless you’re talking pregnancy!). " Sorry but this is ignorant nonsense. Prep is effective for hiv only. It doesn't help for Chlamydia or gonnorhea. Honestly this is worrying | |||
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" Most nasties can get passed on via oral, while prep is more effective than condoms for vaginal and anal (unless you’re talking pregnancy!). Sorry but this is ignorant nonsense. Prep is effective for hiv only. It doesn't help for Chlamydia or gonnorhea. Honestly this is worrying " There is a prep type pill now for gonorrhea | |||
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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses" I'm solo poly. I have about 10 regular male playmates. Some play with men but don't have relationships with or date men. We share tests and notify each other of any infections. We've had 2 oral infections in 2.5 years in the pod. But not all playmates and their wives/partners were infected. We use condoms for penetration. I don't give unprotected blowjobs to men I don't know outside the pod because, well, notifications are important. We attend the same clubs. I've given blowjobs with condoms before..Not a problem for me and most of the men didn't refuse. One did and all the other men kicked him out of the lockable room. Lol! So if you meet me, I like flavoured condoms! Sensory yum! I don't play with women but if a man wanted to use a dental dam on me I don't have a problem with that. My conscience won't let me be reckless with other people's relationships and families because some of my playmates have children/elderly parents who need them. I probably care more about other people than myself, but that's the mental health conditions. I can only say be as safe as you possibly can orally, vaginally, penile and anal. Some STI are passed on by skin to skin contact..I forgot which ones. Herpes can be skin-to-skin. I'm not sure how Monkeypox works but it seems to be a mainly London thing. And go and get tested regularly...orally, vaginally, penile and anally and the blood tests. Protocol: Risk-Aware, Consent, Safe, Healthy and Sane. Don't let your horniness or need for intimacy override the protocol. | |||
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" Most nasties can get passed on via oral, while prep is more effective than condoms for vaginal and anal (unless you’re talking pregnancy!). Sorry but this is ignorant nonsense. Prep is effective for hiv only. It doesn't help for Chlamydia or gonnorhea. Honestly this is worrying There is a prep-type pill now for gonorrhea" I thought it was a vaccine?  | |||
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" Most nasties can get passed on via oral, while prep is more effective than condoms for vaginal and anal (unless you’re talking pregnancy!). Sorry but this is ignorant nonsense. Prep is effective for hiv only. It doesn't help for Chlamydia or gonnorhea. Honestly this is worrying There is a prep-type pill now for gonorrhea I thought it was a vaccine? "
Yes, the vaccine rolling out now is targeted for gonorrhea 
There's Doxypep out too, which reduces potential from Syphilis Chlamydia and, possibly based on some studies only, Gonorrhea | |||
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"Unfortunately women are more biologically at risk due to far greater mucus membrane area. A look at the figures immediately reveals who has the most to do regarding STI prevention. Heterosexual men are among the lowest in new sti infections. Only women who have sex only with women account for less. Men who have sex with men account for 17% but heterosexual women account for most of all at 46%. " Less than 4% of men officially identify as having sex with other men. Over 95% of women identify as having sex with men. Heterosexual men are the least commonly tested. Women are far more at risk because of the mucus membrane. Men are far more likely to transmit because of the way they ejaculate. STI spread prevention should certainly be a high consideration for the people on either side of that risk 💜 | |||
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"Unfortunately women are more biologically at risk due to far greater mucus membrane area. A look at the figures immediately reveals who has the most to do regarding STI prevention. Heterosexual men are among the lowest in new sti infections. Only women who have sex only with women account for less. Men who have sex with men account for 17% but heterosexual women account for most of all at 46%. Less than 4% of men officially identify as having sex with other men. Over 95% of women identify as having sex with men. Heterosexual men are the least commonly tested. Women are far more at risk because of the mucus membrane. Men are far more likely to transmit because of the way they ejaculate. STI spread prevention should certainly be a high consideration for the people on either side of that risk 💜" Me in swinger places watching multiple men ejaculate into multiple women's mouths.....and then they swallow and swap the cum..... Autistic me cannot. Lol! Prudish. Then I go to the Bi and Trans swinger scene and see the same thing. Yup! I can't just do raw blow jobs with strangers. | |||
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"Health is wealth. Regular testing is a must to do if not for others but for yourself. " Well said young man. you will live long with that mindset! | |||
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"I've only caught stis when I was younger from recieving blow jobs. Had condoms on for any sex. Lots of people don't realise about it though. And if you suggest someone gives you head with a condom on, man or woman, your looked at like you asked them to give a blow job to their pet or something. I've met plenty of women who ensure I use condom to fuck them but no issues at all sucking me. Not a single one wants me to wear one for oral though. Doesn't make sense to me as if I did have something they will pass it on next time the give their partner head. Then it's getting everywhere. " Spot on this & protected oral really needs to become the norm. | |||
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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses" They shouldn’t be cheating is the first and prime concern | |||
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"It bothers me deeply that people are blasey about it. I've had many people push the issue. One that recently stood out to me was in a club environment, I had a guy come up to me, I was in a sex swing, and just attempted to start fucking me without a word or even a conversation about protection. " Tbf that is the standard ettique in gay saunas when someone is in a swing. Its shocking how risky a lot of men play | |||
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"It bothers me deeply that people are blasey about it. I've had many people push the issue. One that recently stood out to me was in a club environment, I had a guy come up to me, I was in a sex swing, and just attempted to start fucking me without a word or even a conversation about protection. " That’s a it rap ey behaviour right there on his part with no communication at all Gosh | |||
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"I find some don't even wear condoms, it's all very strange to me. Sure condoms are not 100% safe nothing is but come safer sex is better than not. People genuinely worry me sometimes, even if you become fwbs etc, if they're sleeping with others and then those people are sleeping with others. You have no idea really. I do feel for the wives who have no idea and are being put at risk. " And husbands it swings both ways . | |||
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"It bothers me deeply that people are blasey about it. I've had many people push the issue. One that recently stood out to me was in a club environment, I had a guy come up to me, I was in a sex swing, and just attempted to start fucking me without a word or even a conversation about protection. Tbf that is the standard ettique in gay saunas when someone is in a swing. Its shocking how risky a lot of men play" The amount of idiots who ask me what birth control I'm on since they don't want to deal with a pregnancy is beyond me. Like, mate, there isn't a no condom option, and it's nothing to do with pregnancy. It might be the worst sexually transmitted problem in my eyes, but it's far from the only one that's relevant 💜 | |||
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"Its easy to get your tests on line . x" Yeah it’s super easy, they post them to any address you give them, you wee in a test tube, prick a finger and take some blood, return it in the prepaid post and they text you the results! All for free! Why wouldn’t you test regularly 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Its easy to get your tests on line . x Yeah it’s super easy, they post them to any address you give them, you wee in a test tube, prick a finger and take some blood, return it in the prepaid post and they text you the results! All for free! Why wouldn’t you test regularly 🤷♂️" Not any address, they still don't cover at least parts of Cumbria. The rat bastards 💜 | |||
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"Its easy to get your tests on line . x Yeah it’s super easy, they post them to any address you give them, you wee in a test tube, prick a finger and take some blood, return it in the prepaid post and they text you the results! All for free! Why wouldn’t you test regularly 🤷♂️ Not any address, they still don't cover at least parts of Cumbria. The rat bastards 💜" Really? Oh dear, assumption on my part I guess. I live in Cornwall and the only choice is a postal test unless I think you’re practically dying 😬 What I really meant was those people on here without their partners knowing can (generally) get a test sent to a different address than their shared home, so there’s no excuse for them not to get tested… unless they live in some parts of Cumbria? 🤷♂️😆 | |||
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"I find some don't even wear condoms, it's all very strange to me. Sure condoms are not 100% safe nothing is but come safer sex is better than not. People genuinely worry me sometimes, even if you become fwbs etc, if they're sleeping with others and then those people are sleeping with others. You have no idea really. I do feel for the wives who have no idea and are being put at risk. " It appears that we have either become backward or there is the perceived agenda of, it will never happen to me. There is a lot of ignorance out there which is extremely worrying | |||
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"I get tested every three moth and also vaccinated for hepatitis I take prep I have a full screen test when I go" Out of interest what is your understanding of 'full screen'? I'm not trying to catch you out, just that I've found it means different things to different people! It's a complicated affair! | |||
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"To be fair even people who test regularly might still unwittingly be passing 'things' on, even those who get a bit holier than thou about it! Mgen and trich are apparently on the increase but none of the standard local NHS testing covers that, nor any STIs that require vaginal, throat or rectal swabbing. It's a case of some testing being better than none, but the basic urine/blood testing still leaves a lot left to go unnoticed. I've started work in the porn industry now and nobody will work with you unless you've have at least monthly (sometimes fortnightly) full panel testing. You've either got to go to Dean Street in London (which is free) but you'd still need an Mgen and Trich top-up from elsewhere OR pay up to £250 a time from a private clinic (I use Randox). Even then there's still an element of trust that someone didn't have a one-night quickie in between tests! "
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"To be fair even people who test regularly might still unwittingly be passing 'things' on, even those who get a bit holier than thou about it! Mgen and trich are apparently on the increase but none of the standard local NHS testing covers that, nor any STIs that require vaginal, throat or rectal swabbing. It's a case of some testing being better than none, but the basic urine/blood testing still leaves a lot left to go unnoticed. I've started work in the porn industry now and nobody will work with you unless you've have at least monthly (sometimes fortnightly) full panel testing. You've either got to go to Dean Street in London (which is free) but you'd still need an Mgen and Trich top-up from elsewhere OR pay up to £250 a time from a private clinic (I use Randox). Even then there's still an element of trust that someone didn't have a one-night quickie in between tests!
Plus there's the lag between acquisition and abilities of testing to show the infection. "yep a few require two consecutive months of the all clear for that reason xx | |||
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"To be fair even people who test regularly might still unwittingly be passing 'things' on, even those who get a bit holier than thou about it! Mgen and trich are apparently on the increase but none of the standard local NHS testing covers that, nor any STIs that require vaginal, throat or rectal swabbing. It's a case of some testing being better than none, but the basic urine/blood testing still leaves a lot left to go unnoticed. I've started work in the porn industry now and nobody will work with you unless you've have at least monthly (sometimes fortnightly) full panel testing. You've either got to go to Dean Street in London (which is free) but you'd still need an Mgen and Trich top-up from elsewhere OR pay up to £250 a time from a private clinic (I use Randox). Even then there's still an element of trust that someone didn't have a one-night quickie in between tests! " Very interesting, thanks 👍 | |||
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"Health is wealth. Regular testing is a must to do if not for others but for yourself. " No excuse not to get tested, especially when so readily available and free in most areas. Unfortunately Too many think they’re invincible and won’t catch anything and don’t care about the consequences of taking any thing home | |||
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"Unfortunately women are more biologically at risk due to far greater mucus membrane area. A look at the figures immediately reveals who has the most to do regarding STI prevention. Heterosexual men are among the lowest in new sti infections. Only women who have sex only with women account for less. Men who have sex with men account for 17% but heterosexual women account for most of all at 46%. Less than 4% of men officially identify as having sex with other men. Over 95% of women identify as having sex with men. Heterosexual men are the least commonly tested. Women are far more at risk because of the mucus membrane. Men are far more likely to transmit because of the way they ejaculate. STI spread prevention should certainly be a high consideration for the people on either side of that risk 💜" And that 4% a massive lie as most don’t own up to it, if the amount of “straight” profiles messaging for MM fun is anything to go by. | |||
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" And that 4% a massive lie as most don’t own up to it, if the amount of “straight” profiles messaging for MM fun is anything to go by." Ditto the above | |||
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"For a site that caters to experienced swingers, you sometimes come across some shockingly ignorant people I've now communicated with various men who are attached and discreet yet do not test for STIs EVER because they believe they are 100% safe because they do only oral with men (and not anal). It's not my job to educate them but I pity their spouses" Hmm odd, most who do play test. It's relatively easy | |||
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"Some married men are also very ignorant to the risk of hpv virus.. I wonder how they explain that when their wife tests positive at a smear test. I make it clear on my profile safe sex only and the men who say oh I never use condoms. It's shocking. I let someone know once that he had given me something because I had the sense to get tested. He chose to ignore me and met someone else the day after." It's a shame that HPV vaccine is t more widely available. That's the one I think about more now. But again, stay wrapped up, frequent tests... But sometimes it's fun to play bare, but that's an exception in exceptional circumstances, and clear test results prior for all. But again... HPV is always in my mind | |||
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"Some married men are also very ignorant to the risk of hpv virus.. I wonder how they explain that when their wife tests positive at a smear test. I make it clear on my profile safe sex only and the men who say oh I never use condoms. It's shocking. I let someone know once that he had given me something because I had the sense to get tested. He chose to ignore me and met someone else the day after." Perhaps he'd known and had treatment? | |||
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"To be fair even people who test regularly might still unwittingly be passing 'things' on, even those who get a bit holier than thou about it! Mgen and trich are apparently on the increase but none of the standard local NHS testing covers that, nor any STIs that require vaginal, throat or rectal swabbing. It's a case of some testing being better than none, but the basic urine/blood testing still leaves a lot left to go unnoticed. I've started work in the porn industry now and nobody will work with you unless you've have at least monthly (sometimes fortnightly) full panel testing. You've either got to go to Dean Street in London (which is free) but you'd still need an Mgen and Trich top-up from elsewhere OR pay up to £250 a time from a private clinic (I use Randox). Even then there's still an element of trust that someone didn't have a one-night quickie in between tests!
Plus there's the lag between acquisition and abilities of testing to show the infection.
yep a few require two consecutive months of the all clear for that reason xx"Generally we never used allowed any models to film without 12 weeks of unbroken certs. (3/4 tests in periods ) thst they weren’t party girls doing those events either In USA it was even stringent. Private paid meet girls / models were separate from just actual pure models. Nowadays the ride of indie creating and a non cohesive industry in uk. (Not that there was ever one in reality in comparison to say buda / the valley or vegas ). I think there is many solo creators that just film with mates in own bubbles and do basic testing every couple of months. Then there is others that are dumping 500 a month on two full testing to PASS standards from USA Ultimately it all falls down though with what people do in their own life post test and pre shoot | |||
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"where can you get dental dams? i've ask my local sexual health clinic anytime i get tested and ask various pharmacies occasionally. none have them or know where to get them :\ " I've heard of people using condoms to make their own dental dams, there must be guides online although I've never done it myself | |||
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"The second time I went into a private room with a guy in a club, he struggled with staying hard while getting a condom on. “I’m sorry. I never usually wear these things. Can I just try without?” What he would have thought of me had I said, ‘Sure, hop on!’ I don’t know Thankfully he accepted with grace. But I felt like that put me at risk a bit as well because, like I didn’t know if he had a temper or anything. Anyway, on his way out I found out he’s married to a woman that doesn’t approve of him going to swingers clubs too. Like, he could catch stuff and take it back to her and be like, 🤷♀️ ‘mystery to me’ Play safe, people." I've sucked 100+ cocks with condoms. Recently the last 6 cocks I sucked were all bare. (All married, safe, tested guys). Thoughts: some guys get rock hard even with condoms. Meanwhile. Some guys stay soft even without condoms. For me, I believe it's the whole buildup that's more important. If a guy fancies my appearance and is horny, a condom won't make any difference for oral. I've had guys cum with a condom on their cock after the third suck (ten seconds). | |||
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"To be fair even people who test regularly might still unwittingly be passing 'things' on, even those who get a bit holier than thou about it! Mgen and trich are apparently on the increase but none of the standard local NHS testing covers that, nor any STIs that require vaginal, throat or rectal swabbing. It's a case of some testing being better than none, but the basic urine/blood testing still leaves a lot left to go unnoticed. I've started work in the porn industry now and nobody will work with you unless you've have at least monthly (sometimes fortnightly) full panel testing. You've either got to go to Dean Street in London (which is free) but you'd still need an Mgen and Trich top-up from elsewhere OR pay up to £250 a time from a private clinic (I use Randox). Even then there's still an element of trust that someone didn't have a one-night quickie in between tests! " Must be lucky where I live as I always get a throat swab, and could have anal if I was bottom | |||
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"Its easy to get your tests on line . x Yeah it’s super easy, they post them to any address you give them, you wee in a test tube, prick a finger and take some blood, return it in the prepaid post and they text you the results! All for free! Why wouldn’t you test regularly 🤷♂️" You cannot get free tests via the post in all parts of the UK. That option really does need to be expanded to cover all regions. | |||
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"Its easy to get your tests on line . x Yeah it’s super easy, they post them to any address you give them, you wee in a test tube, prick a finger and take some blood, return it in the prepaid post and they text you the results! All for free! Why wouldn’t you test regularly 🤷♂️ You cannot get free tests via the post in all parts of the UK. That option really does need to be expanded to cover all regions." Sexual activities are very much a hobby or personal choice, whilst it’s great many places, sadly not all, provide a free service I don’t have any issue purchasing test when need to. We shouldn’t rely on a free service for our personal pleasure | |||
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"where can you get dental dams? i've ask my local sexual health clinic anytime i get tested and ask various pharmacies occasionally. none have them or know where to get them :\ " Freedoms Shop (which is run by the NHS and also has cheap condoms) | |||
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"For me, I believe it's the whole buildup that's more important. If a guy fancies my appearance and is horny, a condom won't make any difference for oral. I've had guys cum with a condom on their cock after the third suck (ten seconds). " I think it's also a lot about the technical skill of the person sucking. I haven't personally managed to suck to completion or be sucked to completion when a condom is used. | |||
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"Health is wealth. Regular testing is a must to do if not for others but for yourself. " Sooo true | |||
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"The second time I went into a private room with a guy in a club, he struggled with staying hard while getting a condom on. “I’m sorry. I never usually wear these things. Can I just try without?” What he would have thought of me had I said, ‘Sure, hop on!’ I don’t know Thankfully he accepted with grace. But I felt like that put me at risk a bit as well because, like I didn’t know if he had a temper or anything. Anyway, on his way out I found out he’s married to a woman that doesn’t approve of him going to swingers clubs too. Like, he could catch stuff and take it back to her and be like, 🤷♀️ ‘mystery to me’ Play safe, people." Sure hop on made me laugh way too much | |||
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"where can you get dental dams? i've ask my local sexual health clinic anytime i get tested and ask various pharmacies occasionally. none have them or know where to get them :\ Freedoms Shop (which is run by the NHS and also has cheap condoms)" I think that they must think that I am even more of a slut than I have managed to be so far but last time that I got tested they kindly gave me a whole lot of condoms that will last me for ages | |||
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"For me, I believe it's the whole buildup that's more important. If a guy fancies my appearance and is horny, a condom won't make any difference for oral. I've had guys cum with a condom on their cock after the third suck (ten seconds). I think it's also a lot about the technical skill of the person sucking. I haven't personally managed to suck to completion or be sucked to completion when a condom is used." I don’t like to boast (well I suppose that I do, I am a vain old tart!) but I quite often get men to cum sucking their cocks in flavoured condoms, even though I would much rather taste and swallow, but I don’t! | |||
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"I get tested every three month plus on prep " Why are you on Prep? As a single straight guy you’re hardly at the risk level for justifying Prep? Prep is for those that have risky unprotected sex including anal with many multiple partners (i.e. random strangers) with unknown backgrounds and possibly also intravenous drug users. Prep shouldn’t be taken unnecessarily due to the risk of health issues associated with its use. | |||
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"I've just got my results and I'm negative for chlamydia and gonorrhoea. At least I know I'm clean for whenever next time happens" Not quite - it only means you returned a negative test for that particular point in time, you’re not ‘clean’ Due to incubation periods it’s possible that you might have returned a positive test if you had taken a test say two days later… just sayin Repeated testing is the key. That and clearly communicating any signs of an infection (and goes without saying don’t have sex!!) or positive test result (clinics can do this anonymously if you have sexual partner phone numbers) | |||
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"The abusive messages I’ve received as a result of my status asking when you last checked your sexual health really indicate the ignorance of some people. Oh well, report and block." Incredible that people can not only be so stupid and ignorant but also so obnoxiously rude! I think that what you did was rather a good idea and actually quite kind, as I am sure that many people forget or just don’t bother to think about it. | |||
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"Unfortunately women are more biologically at risk due to far greater mucus membrane area. A look at the figures immediately reveals who has the most to do regarding STI prevention. Heterosexual men are among the lowest in new sti infections. Only women who have sex only with women account for less. Men who have sex with men account for 17% but heterosexual women account for most of all at 46%. Less than 4% of men officially identify as having sex with other men. Over 95% of women identify as having sex with men. Heterosexual men are the least commonly tested. Women are far more at risk because of the mucus membrane. Men are far more likely to transmit because of the way they ejaculate. STI spread prevention should certainly be a high consideration for the people on either side of that risk 💜 Me in swinger places watching multiple men ejaculate into multiple women's mouths.....and then they swallow and swap the cum..... Autistic me cannot. Lol! Prudish. Then I go to the Bi and Trans swinger scene and see the same thing. Yup! I can't just do raw blow jobs with strangers. " Thats just sad, for me health is wealth and i take my health seriously cos im in the medical field. I don’t give orals, just only sex and i stay protected. It will be nice to get to know you, i like the way you think. Cheers | |||
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