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"Someone was telling me the other day that antihistamines helped them with Sad last year. " Oh really? That's super interesting, I take them a lot anyway for COVID prevention (science backed - a study found that H1 antihistamines occupy the same receptors as the virus, and my own experience has very much matched this) so might up my doses from "whenever I go somewhere busy" to daily and see if it helps. Thanks! | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Ditto | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Same. It's cold, wet and dark. | |||
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"Lightbox. Been a game changer for me. I got mine from Lumie. They do, or did then, a trial period and after that you can send it back. Reminds me, I must get mine out!" My Lumie does nothing for me. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " do you have time to do anything else | |||
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"Make sure its 4000 iu , vit d strong strength " Thanks, I forget the dose of my current ones but I'm almost out so will check the next order for strength | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Same. It's cold, wet and dark." IT IS! Rank | |||
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"Lightbox. Been a game changer for me. I got mine from Lumie. They do, or did then, a trial period and after that you can send it back. Reminds me, I must get mine out! My Lumie does nothing for me." Yeah I never had much luck with the daylight boxes tbh, they're a great idea for people they help tho | |||
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"Important to get outdoors if you can. Even dull days will give some light. There are receptors in the eyes which hpart of the eye which when stimulated by sunlight help produce serotonin. There are also special lights you can use indoors which do the same job.. if you have time and can afford it some winter sunshine on Spain or the Canaries is good too. Vit D" I'm outside a LOT, doesn't help. I'd love to just fuck off to some island for the winter lol but that's not the reality for most of us [shrug] | |||
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"If possible get a holiday in the sun. We are in Canaries this month and to go swimming in the sea, get sun on your bones, laugh and have fun with like minded people is wonderful. It also helps as a happy memory to draw on when your day is dark when you go to work and dark before you leave for home. I've often sat in the car on the drive home one dark, miserable evening and drawn from the memory, like today of being naked on a hot beach and running into the sea to cool off. If you look around there are some really cheap flights available. Go on, get them booked I'm sure it's lovely being able to just fly off on a whim, many of us can't do that. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Learn to love the winter. Embrace it. | |||
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" Find exclusive things to LOVE about winter. Difficult but worth it." That's a great challenge, and in fact, once you start looking, there's loads of great stuff, especially if you 'winterise' your life style, for me, this means fitting mountain bike style tyres and mud guards to my gravel bike and getting my cycling waterproofs out so that I can play in the mud on my bike. Also, jumpers and or a decent coat to go for long walks amongst the fallen leafs. Coming home to a hot shower with just candles for light and then a hot chocolate is just an added bonus. 😀 | |||
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"If possible get a holiday in the sun. We are in Canaries this month and to go swimming in the sea, get sun on your bones, laugh and have fun with like minded people is wonderful. It also helps as a happy memory to draw on when your day is dark when you go to work and dark before you leave for home. I've often sat in the car on the drive home one dark, miserable evening and drawn from the memory, like today of being naked on a hot beach and running into the sea to cool off. If you look around there are some really cheap flights available. Go on, get them booked I understand that, we don't fly off on a whim, it's not as expensive as most people think with very cheap flights and great deals on Airbnb for apartments. Lots of people do it, lots are here now, we've met them Hopefully, obe day it would ge lovely to bump into you too Get the overtime done... We used to do overtime and once into our bank account immediately change to euros, suprising how quick it builds up. | |||
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"I absolutely HATE the next 8 or so months. It's just shit all round. Seriously considering emigrating somewhere where I can feel warm sun on my skin year round. If I feel the need to be cold, I can go on holiday skiing or somewhere snow bound. There really is no need for cold grey climates, they can all fuck off. I am the same, I would never pay to go somewhere colder than the UK.. I got invited skiing in December one year, apparently a bargain at £1200.. You will know my reply haha Sorry, rant over. No useful advise either. Sorry again | |||
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"I absolutely HATE the next 8 or so months. It's just shit all round. Seriously considering emigrating somewhere where I can feel warm sun on my skin year round. If I feel the need to be cold, I can go on holiday skiing or somewhere snow bound. There really is no need for cold grey climates, they can all fuck off. I am the same, I would never pay to go somewhere colder than the UK.. I got invited skiing in December one year, apparently a bargain at £1200.. You will know my reply haha Sorry, rant over. No useful advise either. Sorry again Its cold in these places but beautiful. The accommodation is set up to deal with the climate. We went to Norway last January, it was bitterly cold but jaw dropping beautiful. Give it a whirl, it's exciting to do new things. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Get a good SAD light | |||
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"Perhaps try the glass being half full with a cherry on top approach as opposed to the half empty with a lipstick mark approach. SAD my arse." It's not as easy as you think. | |||
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""Just start liking it!" "Just have more money!" "Just get over it!" Wow, a lot of you really have no concept of compassion. Take a good hard look at yourself and your treatment of others sometime. I appreciate the people who shared kind, thoughtful responses, but unfortunately none of the ideas are new to me - seems I'm already doing everything within my power. I won't be checking this thread again, the attitudes on display here aren't something I wish to engage with or feature in my day. " The moon on a stick is rarely available so sometimes a change of mindset is the next best thing | |||
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"Maybe not for everyone but I moved to sunnier climes. " Sounds like a sensible plan. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Do you have a dog? Seriously I used to be quite badly affected by SAD in the winter months. Since getting a dog, much less so. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Same. It's cold, wet and dark. IT IS! Rank Absolutely. | |||
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"the last poster's got a point, OP. It sounds like you're doing all you can to take the edge of this thing you dislike, i.e winter. If you disliked it less, the edge wouldn't be as sharp. and it's a cycle: you dislike the winter, you can't get over the SAD which makes you dislike winter more. So find things about winter you like. This is easier said than done because winter means more artificial light and heat, more layers of clothes and winter is noisy - rain, wind and tyres on wet roads. Winter also contains the single biggest nut ache of the year (Chr****s), so it won't be easy. I like winter because I embrace hibernation mode. Hibernation mode is nature's excuse to sack off doing a whole bunch of things and get under a duvet with and watch a film and not feel guilty about it. Find exclusive things to LOVE about winter. Difficult but worth it." I like Christmas. | |||
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"I absolutely HATE the next 8 or so months. It's just shit all round. Seriously considering emigrating somewhere where I can feel warm sun on my skin year round. If I feel the need to be cold, I can go on holiday skiing or somewhere snow bound. There really is no need for cold grey climates, they can all fuck off. I am the same, I would never pay to go somewhere colder than the UK.. I got invited skiing in December one year, apparently a bargain at £1200.. You will know my reply haha Sorry, rant over. No useful advise either. Sorry again I don't mind colder..it's the darkness and the damp that drives me up a wall! My granny's house (when she was alive) in America showed not one sign of damp even though the snow outside was piled up higher than a car or bungalow in some places and I actually needed sunglasses in Winter there. | |||
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"I absolutely HATE the next 8 or so months. It's just shit all round. Seriously considering emigrating somewhere where I can feel warm sun on my skin year round. If I feel the need to be cold, I can go on holiday skiing or somewhere snow bound. There really is no need for cold grey climates, they can all fuck off. I am the same, I would never pay to go somewhere colder than the UK.. I got invited skiing in December one year, apparently a bargain at £1200.. You will know my reply haha Sorry, rant over. No useful advise either. Sorry again I'd probably go south up a mountain for more sunlight in Turkey than Norway in winter. Norway in summer yes! | |||
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"Absolutely hit me today too. I felt detached from reality and had to ground myself and get out of my head. Always around this time of year." It's when the clocks change that I go in deep, blah!! September is my birthday so I'm usually still managing. | |||
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"I've got my sad light out, as it's affecting me earlier than other years. Doesnt help that I'm not very mobile currently and don't get out much. Not wanting to get soaked wet through from the rain." Hugs. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Do you have a dog? Seriously I used to be quite badly affected by SAD in the winter months. Since getting a dog, much less so." Our post-capitalist London Landlords do not allow dogs. And you can't swing a cat in the flat, never mind a dog. I remember my managers once having a go at me for wanting to go outside during lunch for daylight in winter....in a lovely post-capitalist job. Then they wonder why more people are mentally ill. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Do you have a dog? Seriously I used to be quite badly affected by SAD in the winter months. Since getting a dog, much less so. Our post-capitalist London Landlords do not allow dogs. And you can't swing a cat in the flat, never mind a dog. I remember my managers once having a go at me for wanting to go outside during lunch for daylight in winter....in a lovely post-capitalist job. Then they wonder why more people are mentally ill." What's a post capitalist job? Is my job post or pre capitalist? I'm confused, maybe I get far too much sunlight. Please advise... | |||
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"Due to my job. I highly recommend plenty of fluids during the winter especially water and warm water not cold. Also try to avoid air conditioning it tends to exacerbate colds and dryness of the throat leading up illness. " You mean tea or coffee not sure I could stomach plain warm warm. | |||
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"Due to my job. I highly recommend plenty of fluids during the winter especially water and warm water not cold. Also try to avoid air conditioning it tends to exacerbate colds and dryness of the throat leading up illness. You mean tea or coffee not sure I could stomach plain warm warm. " Yeah plain warm water unfortunately. You add honey and lemon that’s great for a sore threat and also tastes a bit better. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Do you have a dog? Seriously I used to be quite badly affected by SAD in the winter months. Since getting a dog, much less so. Our post-capitalist London Landlords do not allow dogs. And you can't swing a cat in the flat, never mind a dog. I remember my managers once having a go at me for wanting to go outside during lunch for daylight in winter....in a lovely post-capitalist job. Then they wonder why more people are mentally ill. What's a post capitalist job? Is my job post or pre capitalist? I'm confused, maybe I get far too much sunlight. Please advise... Unable to advise. Post-Capitalism is only for Gen Z and Millennials. | |||
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"Keep busy, get out if possible & make the most of the daylight hours you still have. There are still around 7-8 hours daylight available in the UK on December 21st. Don’t lie in bed feeling miserable if the weather is dry & settled enough to do something enjoyable with the day. Go for a hike or a bike ride instead!" Most of us are working those 7-8 daylight hours. And if you are already struggling with mental health its not that easy to 'don't lie in bed feeling miserable'. And not everyone has a hike on their doorstep | |||
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"Keep busy, get out if possible & make the most of the daylight hours you still have. There are still around 7-8 hours daylight available in the UK on December 21st. Don’t lie in bed feeling miserable if the weather is dry & settled enough to do something enjoyable with the day. Go for a hike or a bike ride instead! Most of us are working those 7-8 daylight hours. And if you are already struggling with mental health its not that easy to 'don't lie in bed feeling miserable'. And not everyone has a hike on their doorstep" Obviously I mean on days off. You’re in Bolton, plenty of hills & nice countryside not far from there. I know what it is to be depressed, just sharing what helped me. Good luck. | |||
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"Lightbox. Been a game changer for me. I got mine from Lumie. They do, or did then, a trial period and after that you can send it back. Reminds me, I must get mine out!" Absolutely agree here, my Lumie has made all the difference on a morning. If I’m working away and don’t have it in my hotel I certainly miss it. Well worth the investment | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " If you suffer every year surely investment in a lamp would be the best route | |||
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"Someone was telling me the other day that antihistamines helped them with Sad last year. Oh really? That's super interesting, I take them a lot anyway for COVID prevention (science backed - a study found that H1 antihistamines occupy the same receptors as the virus, and my own experience has very much matched this) so might up my doses from "whenever I go somewhere busy" to daily and see if it helps. Thanks! " I've got some in a tube. I will try rubbing it on my cock. Meanwhile I will get my sad lamp out of the cupboard until March. | |||
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"Sea swimming all year, wearing shorts all winter, frequent orgasms by masturbation or other methods. " brilliant!! 😂🤣😎👏💯 | |||
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" If gloomy low dark clouds i feel like doing nothing and very unmotivated. " Like this morning? I'm still in bed but I've opened the curtains because you can't discount the free infra red radiation from the sun! | |||
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"Only that psychologically its not long. December 21st, so just over a month and incrementally it’s getting lighter again. Take each day, get through it and as hard as it is,appreciate the good parts - there will be sone. X" Absolutely- get through these 5 weeks and it’s on an upward curve - I know January and February can be cold wet and dark - but there is light | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " i am a single guy and been on my own for 15years i know i suffer from S.A.D. and would love to hibernate .. migrate to a hot climate for 5 months or immigrate to solve my problem or find a single lady and cuddle up in bed for 5months | |||
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"Lightbox. Been a game changer for me. I got mine from Lumie. They do, or did then, a trial period and after that you can send it back. Reminds me, I must get mine out!" Lightbox, early in morning, or as much natural light as possible AM. Hard to do some days. Use light box when working morning and afternoon if you can. Easier with a desk job. Vit D alone isn't the answer. But is good for your health. | |||
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"Ensure you’re taking vitamin K2, if you’re taking D. It’s very important." True, combo ones are good. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao Learn to love the winter. Embrace it. " What I'm almost ready to hibernate. I do not realy get up till its light and go to bed when dark. Just up for a pee lol | |||
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"the last poster's got a point, OP. It sounds like you're doing all you can to take the edge of this thing you dislike, i.e winter. If you disliked it less, the edge wouldn't be as sharp. and it's a cycle: you dislike the winter, you can't get over the SAD which makes you dislike winter more. So find things about winter you like. This is easier said than done because winter means more artificial light and heat, more layers of clothes and winter is noisy - rain, wind and tyres on wet roads. Winter also contains the single biggest nut ache of the year (Chr****s), so it won't be easy. I like winter because I embrace hibernation mode. Hibernation mode is nature's excuse to sack off doing a whole bunch of things and get under a duvet with and watch a film and not feel guilty about it. Find exclusive things to LOVE about winter. Difficult but worth it." I'll second this I read a lot. Sit buy a fire 🔥 real one and read. | |||
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"Make sure its 4000 iu , vit d strong strength Thanks, I forget the dose of my current ones but I'm almost out so will check the next order for strength " be careful with dosage to.high can build up calcium deposits which lead to high cholesterol | |||
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"Make sure its 4000 iu , vit d strong strength be careful with dosage to.high can build up calcium deposits which lead to high cholesterol " 4000iu is not too high. For that to happen you’d need tonne taking a lot more and tbh you won’t find stronger than 4000iu without difficulty. For OP I’ll add that having a dog is a cheat code for this. Forces me to get out for fresh air and walks even if it’s dark or whatever and it helps. I’d suggest running / walking when it’s still dark and quiet (early morning) as you’ll learn to enjoy the fresh air and endorphins and build a positive relationship with the dark etc. But unfortunately in the world we live in that may not be the safest idea being a woman. Depending where you live I suppose and how comfortable you feel. | |||
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"Every year I forget how bad it is! Hit me like a brick today and it's barely autumn. Any suggestions - other than vitamin D supplements and exercise? I go to the gym every day for a full body workout, swim, sauna, and already take enough supplements (inc vitD) that I rattle when shaken lmao " Don't know if it has been said but book a trip to the sun before the year ends, don't need to break your bank account | |||
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"Make sure its 4000 iu , vit d strong strength be careful with dosage to.high can build up calcium deposits which lead to high cholesterol 4000iu is not too high. For that to happen you’d need tonne taking a lot more and tbh you won’t find stronger than 4000iu without difficulty. For OP I’ll add that having a dog is a cheat code for this. Forces me to get out for fresh air and walks even if it’s dark or whatever and it helps. I’d suggest running / walking when it’s still dark and quiet (early morning) as you’ll learn to enjoy the fresh air and endorphins and build a positive relationship with the dark etc. But unfortunately in the world we live in that may not be the safest idea being a woman. Depending where you live I suppose and how comfortable you feel. " This is why you take it with K2 | |||
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