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"The fun of auto correct and not reading before pressing post. " We've all been there! But seriously, what I've been told is that unless you take the opportunity to change while you're on the jabs, nothing will change when you come off them, and you'll gradually put the weight back on. It's just that it's easier to motivate yourself to change when you're feeling good about your body. | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" It's not for me....yet? Dunno about the cost because they recently said that they would put the price up in the UK. I'm BMI obese, middle-aged aged but I don't have high blood pressure, blood cholesterol or high sugar. Kidneys and liver still working well. So no obesity related diseases. Having been on anti-depressants on and off for over 20 years, I'd rather not. Especially if I have to look into hormones at some point. I have disordered eating but not an eating disorder or food noise. My main health issues are body strengthening and stretching, mental health and hormones. Obviously, if you have obesity-related health conditions, speak to your GP or consultant. I saw that it can help PCOS which can reduce weight loss. One of my partners has diabetes so he's been switching around on them via the NHS. He doesn't like them but he has to get his diabetes under control. | |||
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"Having tried going to the gym and all sorts of healthy eating diets etc etc nothing worked for me that was sustainable Ok it’s new but on Mounjaro now for 8 weeks and lost 9kg never lost even 1/2 of that in 6 months trying the diet a and exercise stuff I know it’s expensive but so far it has been worth it " You obviously weren't doing the gym and diet correctly. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. " What a judgemental attitude you have | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. " How dare you. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. What a judgemental attitude you have " True though. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. What a judgemental attitude you have " Why is it judgemental all the fat people I know are obsessed with food, don’t exercise and live sedentary lives. Don’t cook proper food and have poor diets. | |||
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"Male here - 57 kg down in 11 months. Don'tsee bow anyone can be negative, people want to spout, but my kids love the new me, I love the new me, summer holiday this year was significantly more enjoyable. Even if I put all of my weight back on, I've had 12+ months of not being ridiculously obese. " You won't put the weight back on if you remember how good it feels without it, and use that to motivate yourself to make long-term changes. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. How dare you. Risk of depression and suicide skyrockets after two years on the higher dose age. If it has taken you over 12months to change your eating habits while on the jabs then the problem is you, either laziness or mentally. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. " Actually, if you pulled your head out of your own arse and did some research, it's NOT always a choice. There are many reasons a person can be overweight. I never touched McDonald's. Go and have a look at "Set Point". And think yourself lucky if you've never had a problem with your weight | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. " Ah so now your saying it’s “generally a choice” after saying it is “by choice”….. Make your mind up!! So what about the folk that are obese due to genetics?…… was that their choice then?……. Smoking is a choice but being obese isn’t always But it’s clear you are the type that just tars everyone with the same brush So that makes you judgemental with your head up your arse | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. " I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus " Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way! | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way! Honestly the only thing I feel better about is not being too obese to tie my own shoelaces and wearing more flattering clothes that finally fit me. I absolutely do not have any more energy that I did before (cancer) and I absolutely hate having to plan my meals in advance, spending hours upon hours in the kitchen when everyone else is chilling on the sofa and watching Netflix and I hate the fact that I have to spend even more time trying out new recipes, just not to bore myself to death with the same bland chicken and veg every day while I could be hiking, painting, reading books... God doing anything else but wasting at least one day a week to the kitchen. But yeah, I look kinda hot now and the cancer is shrinking. Yay me 😐 missus | |||
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"Like everything it works for some and not others also the possible side effects have to be considered i looked into them as have high blood pressure and diabetes and over weight but unfortunately as I have acute pancreatitis the doctor won't prescribe injections as it to high risk " Hugs. That's a lot to deal with. Is it just meds for the acute pancreatitis or does diet/ exercise/ relaxation help change help. | |||
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"Having tried going to the gym and all sorts of healthy eating diets etc etc nothing worked for me that was sustainable Ok it’s new but on Mounjaro now for 8 weeks and lost 9kg never lost even 1/2 of that in 6 months trying the diet a and exercise stuff I know it’s expensive but so far it has been worth it You obviously weren't doing the gym and diet correctly. " It really isn't that easy for most people, especially come middle age. I've got a dogdy hip so I can't be overdoing it on the treadmill...if I want to be able to walk home. If I don't eat my hormones make me suffer. My neurodivergent brain also gives me disordered eating. It's a two-year waiting list for a trauma assessment and autism support in my local area. So far, physically I'm healthy according to the GP but if things go wrong, I'm sure they won't hesitate to put me on weight loss drugs and/or weight loss shakes. | |||
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"Male here - 57 kg down in 11 months. Don'tsee bow anyone can be negative, people want to spout, but my kids love the new me, I love the new me, summer holiday this year was significantly more enjoyable. Even if I put all of my weight back on, I've had 12+ months of not being ridiculously obese. " Always good if you can run around with the kids. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. " Literally took medication (Quetiapine, mood-stabilising anti-psychotic) that made me fat/obese...from December 2014 to July 2023. It took me two years to come off and two years to recover from most of the withdrawal symptoms. I still have insomnia, which doesn't help weight loss. I couldn't come off it until I had completed the intensive therapy with a 3 year waiting list. Covid extended the wait. If I didn't take the medication, the choice was spending all my time in the secure psych unit. So in that case I chose obesity over being mentally unstable. 1. Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIePbzhT8TQ&t=59s 2. Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks Why Do Antipsychotics Make You Gain Weight? | with Dr. Tracey Marks Other women I know gained weight from hormones problems like PCOS or one poor lady had a tumour on her thyroid that made her gain 200Lbs! Everyone is different and Maccies is certainly not a regular feature of my diet. | |||
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"Mmmm the truth is sometimes very hard to swallow and digest unlike junk food." Um.. too much junk food screws up my digestion and my immunity so...not the be all and end all of why people have obesity. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. What a judgemental attitude you have Why is it judgemental all the fat people I know are obsessed with food, don’t exercise and live sedentary lives. Don’t cook proper food and have poor diets. " Um because you know every fat person? | |||
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"There are those who genuinely need them but in my opinion the vast majority on them don't, what they need to do is make more effort to lose weight the old fashioned way. Light bulb moment for me was admitting to myself why I was obese, it wasn't all the excuses I'd been saying for years it was what I was putting in my mouth. Most won't/don't want to acknowledge where the fault lies so they are destined to fail, seeking a quick fix of these jabs. You also have to truly want the weight loss more than continuing to eat what is making you obese. I'm about 6 stone down in 7 years, it's maybe taken me 3-4 to find the right combination of foods which are better for me and keep me fuller for longer. Listening to my body which means an adequately filling breakfast, and having my biggest meal at lunchtime because that's when my natural appetite is highest. For someone else that will be completely different. I'm aware the food noise is still there in the background, but it doesn't overpower me any more. I no longer eat one meal while obsessively thinking about the next before I even finish! I look upon it as lifestyle change not a temporary diet/ increase in activity levels. Making small changes over a long period of time. I'm firmly of the belief that what you eat has much more impact on weight than exercise. " Well said..I have to ignore the negative nancies for now. We say you can't out train a bad diet and to be honest it's figuring out what is a bad diet for you. I can't go carb-free because my blood sugar will drop too low. I can't do intermittent fasting because my brain stops working with no food. The carnivore diet will spike my cholesterol. So for me it's some slow-release carbs for breakfast and lunch, lots of protein and healthy snacks and then go light in the evening. Not always possible every day..but there is no way I could go and do HIIT or weightlifting on an empty stomach. My trainers would not be impressed. I just signed up for a menopause course at my local leisure centre so I can get some tips on how to deal with the symptoms and keep active until Christmas break. | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. Ah so now your saying it’s “generally a choice” after saying it is “by choice”….. Make your mind up!! So what about the folk that are obese due to genetics?…… was that their choice then?……. Smoking is a choice but being obese isn’t always But it’s clear you are the type that just tars everyone with the same brush So that makes you judgemental with your head up your arse " Better you than me. I can't argue with anyone who I think is ignorant, uneducated or low on IQ/only reads the Daily Mail or only watches TikTok for one minute. I have to just agree to disagree with them and conserve my energy for people who can see different perspectives and are open minded. They've clearly made up their mind about fat/overweight/obese people unless they become fat themselves through no fault of their own. Only that will teach them. | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus " Interesting so smoking has nothing to do with it? I have fatigue. I don't have the energy to make everything from scratch, even if I want to and when I say fatigue, I mean my brain stops working and the kitchen becomes dangerous. I hurt myself or leave the cooker on if I attempt cooking while fatigued. It's definitely becoming harder and harder to find quality protein for me that is easy to cook. I eat a lot of fruit simply because I don't have to cook it. Some of it has to be tinned fruit because I get forgetful and the fresh stuff will go off too quickly. | |||
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"For 5mg of monj is about 150 per month " I spend more than that on psychotherapy but the psychotherapy is paid for by PIP to keep me out of the psych hospital. Another commentator said it can be as much as 370 a month. | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus Interesting so smoking has nothing to do with it? I have fatigue. I don't have the energy to make everything from scratch, even if I want to and when I say fatigue, I mean my brain stops working and the kitchen becomes dangerous. I hurt myself or leave the cooker on if I attempt cooking while fatigued. It's definitely becoming harder and harder to find quality protein for me that is easy to cook. I eat a lot of fruit simply because I don't have to cook it. Some of it has to be tinned fruit because I get forgetful and the fresh stuff will go off too quickly." As per my oncologist- no, estrogen fed breast cancer and additional metastasis has nothing to do with smoking and everything to do with a faulty gene, diet choices and of course the "privilege" of me being a woman. I'm also not a heavy smoker. Take a puff here and there to keep my sanity more than anything else. I know what fatigue is and experience it regularly due to a stupid amount of hormone blockers I'm taking. That's why it makes it even more frustrating having to spend time in the kitchen to hopefully be healthier instead of living life outside it 🤷♀️ | |||
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"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. " So pip should be stopped for “everyone” because “most” on it are wasters?……. Again your lashing out with your tar brush?….. You are having a bit of a nightmare here. You have came on here with a point about being obese then changed your point further down the line. Now you are on about pip and changed your point in the very next sentence. Deary me……. | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" I highly doubt the cost would come down, in my opinion it would just keep creeping up, as it's a gold mine for pharmaceutical companies. The food we eat, and the bad habits that we formed, are making us more obese, the "easy" solution (at least for some)- weight loss jab! "Wonderful" invention, makes you lose weight quickly without the hard work needed (I'm getting that impression from all the ads that keep popping up online). Side effects? Don't worry about it, enjoy your food and still lose weight with those wonderful jabs that we'll charge you through the nose for. I'm glad they are working for some. I'll try to manage my type 2 diabetes the "old fashioned" way, and hopefully it will work for me. But good luck to all on the jabs- it is somewhat ironic, though, comparing this to COVID vaccine, that plenty of people jumped on the weight loss jabs bandwagon without much opposition for putting a substance in your body that its long term side effects are still not known. | |||
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"Dit is somewhat ironic, though, comparing this to COVID vaccine, that plenty of people jumped on the weight loss jabs bandwagon without much opposition for putting a substance in your body that its long term side effects are still not known. " I think the reality is that people will put any old rubbish in their system as long it's pushed at them for pure profit by some huge company. But something being given out for free by the government purely because it's been recommended by a group of people who've dedicated their lives to improving the health of others? No way! | |||
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"1O weeks in on MJ. It works for me. I can't imagine the prices will come down but there's plenty of discounts to be had. It's not a quick fix, and you can't eat what you want. You still need to be in calorie deficit. You should still aim to hit your macro targets, eat the required amount of fibre, and drink plenty of water. That takes planning and meal prep. Has it made staying in calorie deficit easier? Absolutely! Do I care about the naysayers? Absolutely not! I'm only halfway to where I want to be and already my life has been transformed. I work, and I pay for the treatment myself. How I choose to lose weight is nobody else's business. The great thing about being fat is that when you're fat you're a burden. Yet you do something about it and still there's someone waiting to tear you down 🙄 Absolutely!! Stuff the haters and your right there’s always the ones that want to bring folk down! The jag is working for me and am loving it Feel so much better about myself for it so what’s to hate about that " | |||
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"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x" You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) and increasing protein. My problem is when I eat protein..I struggle to eat enough fibre so still tweaking my perimono diet. Mid 40's here I come in two weeks. Not taking the weight loss drugs unless my GP demands that I do. So far they are not demanding so I will keep increasing weightlifting, stretching my dodgy hip and tweaking my diet. Everyone else taking the drugs can be monitored by GP or diabetic clinic or if they are paying privately they can pay for a DEXA scan to check the muscle mass to keep muscle and bone density on track. Creatine and fibre supplements help some people. I'm currently having my legendary "pink soup" oats, peanut butter, soy milk, raspberries, blueberries and protein powder. blended up. Hits all my macros, calorie-dense, nutrient-dense, easily digestible and 5 minutes to make and kills all my food cravings for 7 hours. Doesn't make my autistic brain spiral and crash out unless I can't find blueberries in the grocery shop online or in person. | |||
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"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. " You are a bit silly. I've been on since 2012...I have a severe mental health condition that puts me in hospital, is life limited and life threatening if I don't manage it properly. I have worked for 13 of those years, paying national insurance and paying into 3 pensions which I will not see because with my mental health destroying my physical health it's rare for people like me to live to 67/70 aka retirement age. So If I use my PIP to stay out of hospital, free up the beds in the secure psych units and free up the ambulance, police times for responding to sections, then I have nothing to be guilty or ashamed about. I can't magically stop having severe mental health conditions or being autistic. You however, can go volunteer to be a support worker for the mentally and physically disable and see how it is when the shoe is on the other foot. I have a friend in a wheelchair who had to pay for her own motorised wheelchair with her PIP so her relative carer who has a heart condition, didn't have to push her everywhere. Let's hope you never become disabled. | |||
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"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) . " To stop your face looking gaunt? | |||
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"I think they aren't great. Once people stop them what will happen as you can't be on them forever. I've done similar with changing diet and going to gym " The same as any other way of losing weight if you go back to old habits. Whilst taking the injections you *should* be in a calorie deficit, changing your diet, and increasing your exercise (if and when you are able). They don't make you lose weight just by taking them. They work in conjunction with the things I mentioned above. And you can stay on Mounjaro indefinitely, at a maintenance dose, with monitoring and guidance. | |||
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"I don’t think it’s a good luck when people have been using this jab as you can tell not only is it weight loss but you’re also losing muscle mass which can leave people looking very gaunt which is not a nice look for me x You can prevent muscle loss by weightlifting ( gym or body weight) . To stop your face looking gaunt?" No matter how I've lost a significant amount of weight over my lifetime, I don't think there's been a single time I haven't been told my face was looking gaunt | |||
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"Do they work if you don’t hear the food noise because you snack all the time so never feel hungry?" I'm not sure it entirely answers your question, but I put off taking them sooner because my overeating has never been because of hunger. There are several dozen other reasons, but never hunger, so I doubted they'd be effective for me. I was wrong. I pretty much have to remind myself to eat most days (although my tracking app does prompt me too). I've no desire to snack, and prefer to concentrate on three (or four smaller) nutritious meals per day that hit my macro and fibre targets. I also can't do volume so it takes a bit of planning to get the nutrients in. | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. " Scientifically proven that it’s not. Less calories in more calories out, easy yeah but Up to 70 percent of the contributing factor is genetics, so your will power is no better than the fat person you’re looking down your nose at. You’re turning something that is a complex biological issue into a moral one to feel better about yourself. Sooooooo give yourself a pat on the back and go read up so you don’t sound quite like you haven’t read anything about nutrition in the last 50 years. | |||
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"These jabs are PRIMARILY for diabetics and those with blood sugar inefficiencies. The weight loss is a by product but helps sell better. Those on metformin seem to like them much better." It’s been licensed for obesity. Which in turn is going to stop people developing type 2 diabetes. | |||
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"Just neen prescribed them for diabetes any side effects I may see ?" Everyone is different I have genuinely not had one side effect at all even when moving up the dose each month. But I know others who have felt a little sickly on them. | |||
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"Just neen prescribed them for diabetes any side effects I may see ? Everyone is different I have genuinely not had one side effect at all even when moving up the dose each month. But I know others who have felt a little sickly on them. " As above, little to no side effects for me either. It does slow down your digestion though so it's advisable to stay well hydrated and have plenty of fibre in your diet. I occasionally might have to give the poo a little nudge with laxatives (which I'm prescribed anyway due to the side effects of another medication I take), or a stool softener when I know there might be a "challenging" poo on the horizon | |||
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"Just stop eating Maccies and shit. Obesity is a choice. Scientifically proven that it’s not. Less calories in more calories out, easy yeah but Up to 70 percent of the contributing factor is genetics, so your will power is no better than the fat person you’re looking down your nose at. You’re turning something that is a complex biological issue into a moral one to feel better about yourself. Sooooooo give yourself a pat on the back and go read up so you don’t sound quite like you haven’t read anything about nutrition in the last 50 years. " | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" In 10 years time they will be on sale in wetherspoons and outside primary school gates and as an extra in your just eat order. Buy a monster burger and get 20% off your weight loss jab. | |||
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"There is some rather dodgy advice here. Please see your gp before starting any weight loss regime. Many gp practices have specific weight-loss teams. " You think this advice is bad... should see some of the face book groups, where people are saying does the next morning to counter the Chinese takeaway the night before. Or people giving advice on how to lie to get it, even seen someone comment about drinking it so its more effective. | |||
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"PIP should be stopped for everyone. Most people claiming it are bloody wasters who don’t want to work. " Wow how judgemental and rude are you?. It's not easy to get pip and people have rigorous assessments for it. My partner works from home & gets it, he has ms, so not a waster at all, thanks. | |||
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"Wow how judgemental and rude are you?. It's not easy to get pip and people have rigorous assessments for it. My partner works from home & gets it, he has ms, so not a waster at all, thanks. " It’s become fashionable to behave like an unfeeling arsehole towards other people. I don’t know how we got here. | |||
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"Sitting is the new smoking! Along with ultra processed foods it’s no wonder people are taking these jabs! I would question the long term side effects compared to balanced diet and exercise! " This! I always thought people should be more active to the point that I struggle to find a partner that matches my level of activity. To proof wether a medication is safe you need at least 10 years of human use to obtain some non biased data. So we will know about the side effects in about that time. | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" Yes and no and no. Depends on if you're looking for a quick fix or actually prepared to make changes ie use them as a tool to make healthier choices. Worked for me until other (unrelated) health issues meant I had to stop. Of 4.5 stone lost I've regained 3-4lbs over 3 months. Personally I think big pharma are too greedy for costs to reduced over time | |||
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"Sitting is the new smoking! Along with ultra processed foods it’s no wonder people are taking these jabs! I would question the long term side effects compared to balanced diet and exercise! " I agree entirely. I used to be a junk food addiction and bloated uo to 24st. I joined slimming world and lost 8st in 18months. My attitude to food has completely changed and never touch processed or junk foods. And exercise every day . | |||
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"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way." The medication alone does not make you lose weight. You still need to be in calorie deficit. You should still be eating healthily. You should be also be exercising/increasing your activity levels. Regardless, does it matter if was a lazy option? If it gives someone back their health and their life, is that not a good thing? Is it not enough that people who need to lose weight are often judged fat and lazy, then to judge the method they use to improve their lives? | |||
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"Stop eating. You wont be fat. Simples Save money on jabs. Dont take them!" You might be dead though... | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" For some people, yes. J for instance struggles with food having had eating disorders. She has spit on weight and struggle to get by without eating as life is making her miserable in a few ways currently, despite our best efforts. I (N) on the other hand, just cut calories by a lot, started walking an hour a day and does some small calisthenics exercises few days a week at home and have dropped 32kg in around 6 months. I have a few stretch marks but the majority of my skin has gone back to normal, my chest is almost normal, my belly pouch and love handles have shrunk (considerably ) and I have gone from 3XL shirts to XL in most cases. Also drinking lots more water has helped | |||
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"I’d love a weightless jab…to be able to float around like an astronaut Is that you Sam ? | |||
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"Do you think, are they worth it and do they work over the long run. Will the cost of them go down in time or not?" It is Halloween after all | |||
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"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way." Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg. Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier! | |||
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"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way. Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg. Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier!" You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now. The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either. I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets. | |||
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"A number of our friends have done the jabs and yes they work but they don't educate people on things like portion control and healthy eating so as soon as they came off the jab they piled the weight back on." Of course it does, you have to change your approach to food otherwise you won't lose weight. The jab itself isn't what causes you to lose weight, it supresses your appetite to take away the food cravings whilst you adjust your own diet to a calorie deficit, high protein diet. | |||
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"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things " Drink lots of water and eat plenty of protein, listen to your body, not had any side effects here, other than dropping 5 stone since April | |||
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"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things " Listen to your doctor firsr and foremost. There's online tools that calculate your BMI and how much calories you should be eating, you are aiming for around 500 cals less than your recommended daily intake. Keep you're protein intake high, and drink plenty water. | |||
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" Drink lots of water and eat plenty of protein, listen to your body, not had any side effects here, other than dropping 5 stone since April" Well done! | |||
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"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way. Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg. Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier! You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now. The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either. I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets." Yep, that's my point, it works and it's so so easy compared to every other option available. I don't understand why people get so upset at being told they are taking the easy option. I am proud of my progress and will happily tell anyone that's it's been an extremely enjoyable and easy experience to lose 60kg. Why that's controversial, I'm not sure. | |||
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"Sometimes, doing things the hard way results in more personal growth, and in the long run, more benefits. Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life." Aren't they initially type 2 diabetic medication, Mrs x | |||
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"Sometimes, doing things the hard way results in more personal growth, and in the long run, more benefits. Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life." Definitely agree however most people who lose significant amounts do change their relationship with food. Eating is no longer purely a pleasure or hobby. It's 90% a necessity and 10% a hobby. I still go out and eat shit but the difference is that's not the norm. I know quite a few taking mounjaro who've not changed their diet and they don't really lose anything significant. The reality is, even if I put all my 60kg back on in the next year, I've still had around 2 years where my kids have been noticed I've been less fat, More agile, walk more etc. I honestly hope not to put it on, but those 2 year will have been worth every penny. | |||
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" Semaglutides might cause rapid weight loss, but they won't teach you how to eat responsibly once you come off them, and they won't instil a sense of discipline in you like exercising regularly or eating consciously does, which you can then apply to other parts of your life." As has already been pointed out, you have to change your relationship to food otherwise you won't lose weight on these jabs, so your assumption is wrong. The jabs themselves DO NOT make you lose weight. A lot of people just can't grasp that. When people come off this treatment, they may then find it is a lot easier to control their weight as their attitude to food has changed. Not everone of course. | |||
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"Myself and hubster have benefited from them. I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from. It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite. We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing. We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them." i hope you do not loose anything off your sexy boobs,,, it would be such a shame to see them reduced... | |||
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"Another problem is there is little financial incentive to undertake deep research and medical test those who do lose significant amounts of weight and sustain that weight loss over time by diet and exercise (though I prefer the term lifestyle changes and developing new habits). The quick fix diet industry and weight loss jabs are very profitable in a capitalist society. " That's not necessarily true, there are decades of research regarding "natural" body recomposition, both as part of public health efforts and from within the diet industries seeking to develop products that replicate the processes in play. The issue is that successful "natural" body recomposition requires an intersection of genetic and psychological factors that aren't consistently replicable either as a health programme or as a marketable product. The research tells us, essentially, that people are too different on an individual basis to say that what works for person A is certain or even likely to work for person B, even if their starting circumstances are the same. | |||
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"Been prescribed manjaro for diabetes start this week 2.5ml and going to to 7.5m within 3 months any advice please heard some bad and good things " I'd encourage you to communicate fully with your prescriber, as they know you and your medical/physical history. Just take it steadily, as adopting a new lifestyle will be multifaceted, alongside your injections. Good luck! | |||
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"I was on Mounjaro from September last year to June this year and lost about 30kg in total after managing to lose 19 myself. For years I’d been losing and gaining the same 10-15kg so when I felt my motivation starting to slip again I have them a try. Honestly, it was so easy for me. My appetite suppression was insane and I just didn’t crave all the rubbish I normally ate before so the weight just fell off. No calorie counting, just healthier choices and smaller portions. I never deprived myself of anything, if I wanted chocolate or pizza for example I’d have some, just a far smaller portion than before. I’ve been off for 5 months now and keeping it off has been a lot more difficult than I expected. I’d say I definitely changed my attitude towards food but I’d also class myself as a binge eater, particularly when I’m stressed or having a rubbish time so that’s really been challenging to try and not give in to without the appetite suppression from the jabs. I’ve put about 8kg back on since stopping but to be honest I was a bit on the scranwy side with a bmi of 19 by the time I weaned back down and off over a couple months. I’m sitting at a bmi of 22.5 now, have climbed 30 munros this year and have recently joined the gym and try to go 4/5 days a week. I’d like to get about 4kg back off but doing it with normal diet and exercise. They really are an incredible tool and work better for some than others, I know a few folk on them who have lost very little because they actually haven’t really changed their eating or added in any exercise and not everyone gets the same level of appetite suppression as I did." Wow, that's impressive and the results speak for themselves. Congratulations. | |||
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"I was on Mounjaro from September last year to June this year and lost about 30kg in total after managing to lose 19 myself. For years I’d been losing and gaining the same 10-15kg so when I felt my motivation starting to slip again I have them a try. Honestly, it was so easy for me. My appetite suppression was insane and I just didn’t crave all the rubbish I normally ate before so the weight just fell off. No calorie counting, just healthier choices and smaller portions. I never deprived myself of anything, if I wanted chocolate or pizza for example I’d have some, just a far smaller portion than before. I’ve been off for 5 months now and keeping it off has been a lot more difficult than I expected. I’d say I definitely changed my attitude towards food but I’d also class myself as a binge eater, particularly when I’m stressed or having a rubbish time so that’s really been challenging to try and not give in to without the appetite suppression from the jabs. I’ve put about 8kg back on since stopping but to be honest I was a bit on the scranwy side with a bmi of 19 by the time I weaned back down and off over a couple months. I’m sitting at a bmi of 22.5 now, have climbed 30 munros this year and have recently joined the gym and try to go 4/5 days a week. I’d like to get about 4kg back off but doing it with normal diet and exercise. They really are an incredible tool and work better for some than others, I know a few folk on them who have lost very little because they actually haven’t really changed their eating or added in any exercise and not everyone gets the same level of appetite suppression as I did." Congratulations, and thanks for the insight when you stopped, I still have a long way to go before I get to that stage. You are looking great! | |||
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"I’ve been on them since 16th February and have lost 9stone 4.9lbs so yes they help if you also put the work in. The jabs don’t make you loose weight as such they are just a tool you use to help you get there. I still have to count my calories, drink my water and exercise and when I can. " Wow that's impressive, well done! | |||
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"I lost about 2 stone in 8 months. Came off them and pilled it all straight back on. Food noise was back worse than ever. Started back on them 2 months ago and it’s just like injecting water " , injecting water? Isn't it working again yet? You'd done really well | |||
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"9 stone is insane, well done you! That’s amazing!" Thank you xxx I’ve got 6.5lbs to go to get to my goal weight and then I can start working back down When I have finished this pen I have another 4 months of pens in my fridge that I will use to wean myself back to 2.5mg and then I may stay on that for a while as I don’t want to risk putting it all back on. I’m also insulin resistant so it’s helped massively with that as I was on the turn for type 2 | |||
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"I lost about 2 stone in 8 months. Came off them and pilled it all straight back on. Food noise was back worse than ever. Started back on them 2 months ago and it’s just like injecting water , injecting water? Isn't it working again yet? You'd done really well I’m hearing more of this from people who have stopped and then restarted - their bodies just haven’t responded like they did the first time, installed for weeks and weeks and considered having a few weeks break but I’m so glad I didn’t | |||
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"9 stone is insane, well done you! That’s amazing! Thank you xxx I’ve got 6.5lbs to go to get to my goal weight and then I can start working back down When I have finished this pen I have another 4 months of pens in my fridge that I will use to wean myself back to 2.5mg and then I may stay on that for a while as I don’t want to risk putting it all back on. I’m also insulin resistant so it’s helped massively with that as I was on the turn for type 2 " I wish I’d stayed on it a wee but longer but I was buying a house so unfortunately that had to take priority | |||
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"Myself and hubster have benefited from them. I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from. It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite. We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing. We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them." Can I ask a serious question without sounding rude. My wife put on loads of weight after an injury and op. She is thinking about them but like yourself can’t exercise now. So my question. You have lost 3 stone which is amazing. But if you can’t exercise and it’s quite quick is the much loose skin ? Sorry if that sounds rude. | |||
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"Coming off was hard, it was like a switch was flipped and I was absolutely starving all the time at first but it’s much better now. If I could have afforded it I would have stayed on a low maintenance dose a bit longer, so I would say don’t rush to come off until you really feel ready." Yeah I've read a lot about gradually reducing the dosage back to base level and maintain that until you're ready. Still a while away for me yet. | |||
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"Myself and hubster have benefited from them. I've lost 3 stone, which I would have found difficult to do as unable to excercise following an operation 2 years ago, which I haven't fully recovered from. It's important to still eat correctly even though they surpress your appetite. We have a protein meal replacement every morning as never feel hungry first thing. We know quite a few people who have / are taking them and heard nothing but good things about them. Can I ask a serious question without sounding rude. My wife put on loads of weight after an injury and op. She is thinking about them but like yourself can’t exercise now. So my question. You have lost 3 stone which is amazing. But if you can’t exercise and it’s quite quick is the much loose skin ? Sorry if that sounds rude. " Loose skin contracting over weight loss will really depend on the amount of weight to lose, plus other factors such as age. For example a super-obese person of any age would expect to have loose skin after significant weight loss. Whereas an overweight younger person losing a few stone might see very little to no loose skin versus an older person with less skin elasticity. Genetics also play a part, as does the length of time the person has been overweight for. | |||
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"Obesity is generally a choice. Take your head out of your own arse if you can find it. I used to blame my new cancer related medication on putting on a huge amount of weight, used to blame stress and a huge workload, but after another cancer popping up last Christmas I cleaned up my act, cut out all sugar, super processed food, only drink red wine and infuse my own vodka with fresh lemons, ginger and natural honey. Started tracking all my macros. Prepare my meals from scratch and generally don't stuff my face with any rubbish. In result I lost 42kg in 6 months while still taking same medication and not doing any exercise outside regular life activities. Changing eating habits took a long time and a lot of effort, but it's doable. One only has to sacrifice a lot of time in the kitchen. Missus Definitely this! Is hard to keep healthy habits in today's day and age but bet you do feel better with more energy and healthier over all. Well done for that is a massive achievement and for doing it naturally which is the best way. Keep it going and remember carrying on with physical activity as well as I see people just starving themselves and that is not really the solution either. Nice balance between good diet and good exercise levels that's the best way! You look amazing, well done you | |||
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"Lazy option IMO calorie deficit and exercise are better way. Couldn't agree more. And I'm someone who has taken Mounjaro for over a year and lost basically 60kg. Anyone who takes mounjaro and claims it's not the lazy or easy way to lose weight is simply lying, if it wasn't the easy(ist) way to lose weight, we'd all be doing something easier! You do realise that many people who are on MJ have been on umpteen other diets which haven't worked for them? There never has been a foolproof way to lose weight before now. The money involved alone suggests it's far from an "easy" way for many either. I'd suggest people use it because it's proven to be remarkably effective above and beyond all other diets." There has always been a fool proof way to loose weight. It's called a calorie deficit. It's just really difficult if you don't have the will power or want to make lasting lifestyle changes. The jabs are great, fair play to anyone that wants to take them but they do come with risks as some of the posters have mentioned you have had first hand experience with. | |||
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