FabSwingers.com forum: HIV Hep b+c testing in hospitals

By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

So 90 ED Departments across the country are now testing for the above on any bloods taken on all 16+ patients while in ED.. You can opt out of having blood tested but they aren't telling you they're checking/screening for it when they take the sample... Thoughts

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Do you have a source for this?

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Don't worry. Found it on the NHS website.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/02/nhs-expands-hiv-opt-out-testing/

From the article.

"Under the programme, people visiting an ED are offered a discreet test which screens for the HIV, Hepatitis B and Hepatitis C viruses when full bloods are taken. If the test comes back positive for the HIV, Hepatitis B or Hepatitis C viruses, the person is offered specialist support and a treatment plan is put in place for them."

It says they're offered, so will be told.

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

Not what I've been told or on the posters in Ed

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Not what I've been told or on the posters in Ed

Always worth looking into anything news story's you hear or read online.

The NHS website clearly states people will be offered the test, not that it's done behind their backs or is compulsory. If you read the article it's in 89 hospitals in locations where there are higher than normal rates of HIV.

"Latest NHS data shows, over seven million tests have been carried out, finding over 7,300 cases of newly diagnosed Blood Borne Viruses. Including over 1,000 new diagnoses of HIV, over 4,600 new diagnoses of Hepatitis B and over 1,600 new diagnoses of Hepatitis C via the BBV programme between April 2022- January 2025."

How can this not be a benefit to people who didn't know they were infected? 🤔

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...

What makes you think k they don't know?

Personal experience or something you heard/read somewhere.

As already stated, people are being offered the testing not having it done behind they're backs. They can opt out should they wish.

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By *GoodGirlGemxCouple
19 weeks ago

Glasgow

"Not what I've been told or on the posters in Ed

What do the posters in the ED say?

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

Yes that's what the nhs web says but im telling you that is not the reality...

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Yes that's what the nhs web says but im telling you that is not the reality... "

Again. Is this your personal experience in an ED or just hearsay/anecdotal evidence?

I mean.....7 million tests have been done. I imagine you weren't there for all of them, surely?

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

"Yes that's what the nhs web says but im telling you that is not the reality...

Again. Is this your personal experience in an ED or just hearsay/anecdotal evidence?

I mean.....7 million tests have been done. I imagine you weren't there for all of them, surely? "

And i should imagine that's 7 million that didn't know they were having tested..

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab?

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By *GoodGirlGemxCouple
19 weeks ago

Glasgow

If I’d consented to a blood test already I’d be quite happy for them to test it for anything. I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with their blood being screened for things that could be detrimental to their health

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By *melie LALWoman
19 weeks ago

neverland

"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

Datix!

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By *melie LALWoman
19 weeks ago

neverland

The common sense response

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By *ox1 red leader OP Man
19 weeks ago

farnham

"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab? "

Its been highlighted to management

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By *litterbabeWoman
19 weeks ago

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This

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By *bi HaiveMan
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19 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab?

Its been highlighted to management

The right thing to do.

I still doubt the vast majority haven't been consulted. Having been in many an A&E over my years I've always either been required to fill forms out including giving details of any pre-existing conditions (done on ipads by triage nurses now) or been asked questions once being assessed. Including questions re HIV status.

But that's my experience across maybe half a dozen different hospitals. 🤷‍♂️

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By *melie LALWoman
19 weeks ago

neverland

If you Google hiv testing in A&Es posters, you'll see the poster image.

It states it is routine but you can opt out.

When you have blood taken in hospital to investigate differential diagnoses (doctors have theories and seek the blood tests to confirm/rule out/ delve deeper), you do not ask what they are screening for (though you have the right). You tend to accept that they are SPENDING MONEY on tests for your health's sake. This is no different apart from the fact that something has become a public health concern in certain areas (something they want to reduce).

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By *ad NannaWoman
19 weeks ago

East London

When bloods are taken in ED, do they tell you why they are taking your blood?

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By *ngrylookingpenis123Woman
19 weeks ago

It really wouldn't bother me

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
19 weeks ago

Chichester

Should be compulsory screening when they run bloods for other things to check for this as well imo.

Better people know their status anyway

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
19 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

"Do you have a source for this? "

It's a new national initiative that's being rolled out in ED.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
19 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

"When bloods are taken in ED, do they tell you why they are taking your blood? "

Yes. Then you can opt out.

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By *litterbabeWoman
19 weeks ago

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I think when you donate blood they screen the blood for lots of different things as well.

One time I went and didn't even get as far as the screening and it turned out from my tests that I had pernicious anemia.

Had I not gone to donate blood regularly, I'm not sure when I would have found out and what damage may have been done.

Luckily there was no damage and I just have injections every three months to top up my b12

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By *midnight-Woman
18 weeks ago

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Why wouldn't you want to know?

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By *ouseofhoneyCouple
18 weeks ago

North West

I have my bloods done every 6 months, (not on the NHS), but would want to know if I had an diseases or markers for sure!

If you are having bloods done then surely you are consenting to them checking your health and would want to know if there was any issues, that's sort of the whole point of them!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
18 weeks ago

Horsham

I want my moneys worth, if I am getting a blood test, they had better test for everything.

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple
18 weeks ago

wonderland.

"Should be compulsory screening when they run bloods for other things to check for this as well imo.

Better people know their status anyway "
i agree.. there is no reason not to know x

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
18 weeks ago

walsall

It was how I found out I'm pre diabetic after being asked if I would give a urine sample on one trip to the Urgent treatment centre

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By *llaandGCouple
15 weeks ago

London

"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...

Datix!"

Not any more...

RADAR!

And thank you OP for publicising this very worthwhile piece of health promotion, a Fabs post is undoubtedly worth a hundred unread posters and leaflets

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By (user no longer on site)
15 weeks ago

Personally I think it's a great idea, both from a detection point for the patient and from a safety point for the healthcare staff.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
15 weeks ago

I mean I don't see anything wrong with having these tests. Worries me people are worried lol.

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By *hataliceinwanderlustWoman
15 weeks ago

Cambs

Definitely a new thing they are bringing in, and tbf I’m all for it

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By *londebiguyMan
15 weeks ago

Southport

I find that very hard to believe.

Must check it out.

I would have thought that if you were carrying a blood bourne infection,that it would be within your own and everyone elses best interests to be made aware of it,to get the proper treatment and to prevent more infections.

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By *ssexPolyGentMan
15 weeks ago

southend

I was told about this by my partner who works in ED, you most definitely are told about it at the time of the bloods being taken and are definitely being informed there and then that you have the right to opt out of having the additional tests done and if you choose not to the tests are not done. Like others have said I would be more than happy to have a free additional blood test done to make sure that I have nothing nasty.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
15 weeks ago

Horsham

Surely it is putting the medical staff at risk, by not knowing you have something. Not to mention putting others at risk, by catching whatever you might have.

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By *Silver-Man
14 weeks ago

North Wales

I think its a great idea

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By *oger_81Man
10 weeks ago

Glasgow

Should be mandatory to everyone. Prevention is cheaper than treatment.

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By *usie pTV/TS
10 weeks ago

taunton

One of the best ideas I have seen for a long time.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Why would testing for communicable diseases be a bad thing?

Surely it's better to know and be able to more accurately asses your risk profile than to go around giving people HIV and hepatitis without knowing?

I don't even see why they should need consent. It's not saying they'll store your blood data to sell to the highest bidder. It's to try to reduce the spread of disease in areas that are heavily afflicted by them. That's just what should happen, no?

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By *icky1970Man
9 weeks ago

Cannock

Interesting post this is, really as swingers every one should have no problem with it being done, as a few have said, why wouldn't you want to know.

May I ask out of the folks who have commented, how many of you regularly go to the GUM clinic (every 3 months) to get tested for all sti infections and hiv and if not, why ?

Not being nosey or looking for an argument, I have vast experience in these situations, cheers

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By *ymac580Man
7 weeks ago

Derby

No sensible person should have an issue with testing

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By *abba44Man
7 weeks ago

Broadstairs

I went to the Flete clinic in QEQM Margate early May took an hour tested and all clear and offered Prep as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

Didn’t testing for STD’s & HIV begin pre-Covid when any bloods were taken by certain Health Authorities ?

Trixie

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By *urvyLady4BlackMenWoman
7 weeks ago

Norwich

I don't see the problem with it. It's looking after people's health. I'd want to know if I had them.

If your particular department is not advising people then that's an issue but it doesn't mean all aren't.

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By *andy57TV/TS
7 weeks ago

york

Due to my current situation I have my bloods taken every month to check my medication levels. The hospital know I'm bisexual and they always run a full screen everytime. Plus I still bisit the clinic and I'm on prep also. I can understand why anyone would be against it. Its same as blood types if you need a transfusion it's nice to know someone has checked the blood before they give you it.

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By *andC1000Couple
7 weeks ago

Ashford

Exactly this. This is a positive not a negative thing and would happily see it as a standard thing.

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