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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* " I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too! I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role! My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone. I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect. Yours Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose) " | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. " Bingo | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. " Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca. | |||
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"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?" Did you search the data? | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* " I'm still waiting to get 6G. Bill Gates needs to hurry up 
On a serious note, a lot of people do not understand science and have been unfortunately manipulated by grifters.
Best way to win them over is with patience and education. Mocking them will not help.
Although teasing them from time to time is hilarious.
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too! I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role! My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone. I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect. Yours Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose) " 100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery. | |||
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"A large proportion of fab users are uneducated and enjoy the collective pats on the back they give each other as they spout conspiracy theorist rubbish. Vaccines are not drugs. They are not ticking time bombs. If anyone was going to experience an adverse effect from them it would be when they were first administered, not years later." Oh dear, you're amongst the uneducated. A vaccine is a medication. As for the last sentence, for people receiving boosters, again you can be incorrect. Read about anaphylaxis. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca." check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍" There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. " There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. " Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊 | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊" Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊 Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. " certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊 Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info" Who'd trust such an antivaxer who's spread clear lies, that likely result in deaths, for vulnerable children, who are powerless, when adults have all the power  | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge. Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊 Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info Who'd trust such an antivaxer who's spread clear lies, that likely result in deaths, for vulnerable children, who are powerless, when adults have all the power "im sure he will only be releasing docs and files related to the vaccines lockdowns and the testing and data ect im not intrested in his opinion just the "facts" which im sure everybody else is too whether is from a pro or anti vax person makes no difference, we just want the hidden truths | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca.check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year " Look up the data. You will see 2020 has easily the highest excess deaths then 2021 then 2022 then 2023 so far 2024 has have less deaths than expected. If you are look an absolute death numbers remember the population size is increasing | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍" Only one current covid vaccination has squalane in, sanofi pasteur I.e gsk. Most squalane doesn't come from animals, in this case sharks. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see). And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim. Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see. Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca.check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year Look up the data. You will see 2020 has easily the highest excess deaths then 2021 then 2022 then 2023 so far 2024 has have less deaths than expected. If you are look an absolute death numbers remember the population size is increasing " yep sorry 2020 mostly april were massive numbers and as for the population who knows approx what were at nowadays bet were not far off 80mill | |||
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"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria. It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4. I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻. I want the research data, and as for the covid jag. It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍 Only one current covid vaccination has squalane in, sanofi pasteur I.e gsk. Most squalane doesn't come from animals, in this case sharks." 
Yes but there were lots of words, not saying very much, nor that was based on current knowledge and scientific practice, so it perhaps might get to sound a little alarming to some.
Squalene, which might sound a bit scary, despite it being in much of life, across plants, fungi many animals and it being over 10% of human skin lipids is also used in many personal care items, including shampoo, moisturiser and more. We have it within us and use it on us.
It's a pity that so much has been covered, just in this forum, though it's missed by many, who get to post bits and pieces, though lacking in contextual data and contemporary relevance too. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too! I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role! My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone. I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect. Yours Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose) 100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery." Ah yes … a full medical recovery… obviously! That appears to be a different measure. Please don’t reply! | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too! I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role! My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone. I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect. Yours Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose) 100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery. Ah yes … a full medical recovery… obviously! That appears to be a different measure. Please don’t reply! " Tough, I am. I was merely pointing out the importance of language and that we, as HCPs, aren't always aware.  | |||
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"A man had been tasked with bringing food to a starving city and had been given a truck to do the job. This was how food deliveries had always been made but the man knew better. He’d heard that trucks had an iffy safety record: sometimes the wheels fell off or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way, I’m going in that truck,” he said. “Much safer to carry the food in person.” Meanwhile the people in the city were starving. Soon the other drivers heard what the man had to say. Sometimes the wheels fell off the truck or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way I’m going in that truck,” they said. “Much better to carry the food in person.” (In fact what the man had said was at least partly true. Very occasionally the trucks did spontaneously combust - hurting or very occasionally killing the driver. Though this was definitely not a good thing - and tragic though each and every death was and as reprehensible as the truck manufacturer was - it did happen only extremely rarely.) Meanwhile the people in the city were starving. So the truck driver and all the other truck drivers began the slow, painful process of lugging the food to the distant city in person. They crossed rivers, climbed mountains, slogged their way through vast, empty expanses. And still the people starved. Eventually the man and all the other truck drivers made it to the city gates. But by that time all the food was rotten and all the people in the town had starved. From this, the man learned a lesson: that sometimes, when necessity demands it, good enough is better than perfect, especially if it saves lives." and that driver knew what the risks were | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* " I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. | |||
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"A man had been tasked with bringing food to a starving city and had been given a truck to do the job. This was how food deliveries had always been made but the man knew better. He’d heard that trucks had an iffy safety record: sometimes the wheels fell off or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way, I’m going in that truck,” he said. “Much safer to carry the food in person.” Meanwhile the people in the city were starving. Soon the other drivers heard what the man had to say. Sometimes the wheels fell off the truck or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way I’m going in that truck,” they said. “Much better to carry the food in person.” (In fact what the man had said was at least partly true. Very occasionally the trucks did spontaneously combust - hurting or very occasionally killing the driver. Though this was definitely not a good thing - and tragic though each and every death was and as reprehensible as the truck manufacturer was - it did happen only extremely rarely.) Meanwhile the people in the city were starving. So the truck driver and all the other truck drivers began the slow, painful process of lugging the food to the distant city in person. They crossed rivers, climbed mountains, slogged their way through vast, empty expanses. And still the people starved. Eventually the man and all the other truck drivers made it to the city gates. But by that time all the food was rotten and all the people in the town had starved. From this, the man learned a lesson: that sometimes, when necessity demands it, good enough is better than perfect, especially if it saves lives." Is that from the gaza section of today's news? | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. " Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them." unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do " That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer. | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer." thats fine if thats your opinion i and others may disagree with some of your opinion but hey ho thats a forum for you | |||
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"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine. *narrows eyes* But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati… What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned. Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it? Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!? *opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in* I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer.thats fine if thats your opinion i and others may disagree with some of your opinion but hey ho thats a forum for you " Your opinion vs fact | |||
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