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 . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed  | |||
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 . It would have been truly wonderful if she'd been able to receive a treatment like this, that could have saved her life from lung cancer. | |||
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"fucking excellent news, patients in seven countries are taking part part in the trials, lung cancer is the number one cause of cancer deaths and if it works for Lung Cancer they can create vaccines for other types of cancer too. Let’s have hope " | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed "This was trialled on four patients with terminal diagnosis two years ago with dramatic results. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
This was trialled on four patients with terminal diagnosis two years ago with dramatic results."
It'll be great to get some high quality evidence, from trialling under varied patient conditions and types, allowing it to give confidence for broader introduction. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed "For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years? It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to. If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)? | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)? "It all depends on funding, unfortunately governments are not throwing money at these things. If the trials are successful, it could be quick... but only if the funding is available. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)? "NICE will do with it as they wish  . Let's hope that they'd see the sense in funding it - subject to its final cost and effectiveness. Especially for such a widespread cancer that has awful outcomes.
I'm guessing still a few years away. This trial, whilst in several countries, is still quite low volumes.
Assuming that it's phenomenally successful and side effects aren't worse than predicted and intolerable, then the business will need to work out its launch plan. It's fairly reasonable to assume that 5 years or so may give enough time for research data and regulatory affairs to have been worked through for early launch countries. But how long is a piece of string? Ultimately, the manufacturer will hold sway, depending on their portfolio and strategy, which drugs are going to be the best fit for them and their resources. As lung cancer is so abundant, they'll presumably see a large market.
Seeing people with increased survival rates and extended healthier lifespans would be a glorious outcome. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)? "NICE don’t buy things, they decide if it is value for money for the NHS. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)?
NICE don’t buy things, they decide if it is value for money for the NHS."Yes quite right. The point I was trying to make though, is that not all treatments are made available for the NHS however successfull they may be,. It seems there's still quite a journey to go before this experimental / early stage treatment might be made available. As positive as the news about it is. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)?
NICE don’t buy things, they decide if it is value for money for the NHS.
Yes quite right. The point I was trying to make though, is that not all treatments are made available for the NHS however successfull they may be,. It seems there's still quite a journey to go before this experimental / early stage treatment might be made available. As positive as the news about it is. "Yes, it's still fairly early in the development process. Fingers crossed that it continues to have positive results and that it would be made available via the NHS. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
For those more informed about the route to market. If all goes according to plan. How far away is it to get this into patients who need it? A year? 5 years?
It seems very promising and let's hope it does what it needs to.
If it is eventually bought to market will NICE be be able to afford it? (saw the alzheimers drug was considered too expensive for the NHS)?
NICE don’t buy things, they decide if it is value for money for the NHS.
Yes quite right. The point I was trying to make though, is that not all treatments are made available for the NHS however successfull they may be,. It seems there's still quite a journey to go before this experimental / early stage treatment might be made available. As positive as the news about it is. "It’s the reality of the NHS, people want it to be able to provide all the latest, and often most expensive, drugs but don’t want it to be invested in. | |||
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"It sounds good for people who have already been diagnosed with cancer. However, I do feel that if there was to be a suggestion that humans should be vaccinated from birth with this new wonder drug, it might not be the best solution over all. I might be wrong. But, if you disagree, feel free to ask about my personal experience of mRNA." Of course it's situation dependent and above all things right now it's not proven, not tested. But my dad would have given anything to try an experimental drug when he was dying of cancer so let there be hope. | |||
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"It sounds good for people who have already been diagnosed with cancer. However, I do feel that if there was to be a suggestion that humans should be vaccinated from birth with this new wonder drug, it might not be the best solution over all. I might be wrong. But, if you disagree, feel free to ask about my personal experience of mRNA. Of course it's situation dependent and above all things right now it's not proven, not tested. But my dad would have given anything to try an experimental drug when he was dying of cancer so let there be hope. " My father accepted every offer going of an experimental mRNA drug a few years ago. After 3 doses he suffered a huge "common cold" list of symptoms to the point where I called 99nine in desperation for his health. I accepted no doses of the same drug and continued to be his unpaid carer, travelled on public transport 4 times per day, every day, accompanied him daily to visit mum in hospital during times when absolutely no hospital visiting was allowed but she was "on her death bed" and I was the sole person to go shopping. | |||
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"It sounds good for people who have already been diagnosed with cancer. However, I do feel that if there was to be a suggestion that humans should be vaccinated from birth with this new wonder drug, it might not be the best solution over all. I might be wrong. But, if you disagree, feel free to ask about my personal experience of mRNA. Of course it's situation dependent and above all things right now it's not proven, not tested. But my dad would have given anything to try an experimental drug when he was dying of cancer so let there be hope. My father accepted every offer going of an experimental mRNA drug a few years ago. After 3 doses he suffered a huge "common cold" list of symptoms to the point where I called 99nine in desperation for his health. I accepted no doses of the same drug and continued to be his unpaid carer, travelled on public transport 4 times per day, every day, accompanied him daily to visit mum in hospital during times when absolutely no hospital visiting was allowed but she was "on her death bed" and I was the sole person to go shopping." Our lives in their hands right? | |||
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"If you're looking at what has happened mRNA covid vaccines and thought that you'd like another one, then you're stone cold insane! " I think you seem to have an agenda here? Spamming all the threads | |||
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"It's still going through development, so research evidence is being collected. Once that's finished, the analysis would show how it may be best used, including whether people need different dose strategies, best treatment starting points, etc They may have ideas but that's the beauty of the scientific method, it supports the testing of hypotheses, so that we don't need to just rely on guesswork etc. It's an exciting time, for what is an end to a serious cause of so many deaths " Isn't it a bit early to claim it's a end to a serious cause of cancer deaths? Unless the trials have been completed, results have been good and it's been approved to general use in the last few weeks? | |||
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"If you're looking at what has happened mRNA covid vaccines and thought that you'd like another one, then you're stone cold insane! " You're extremely unlikely to be offered another COVID mRNA vaccine, however if you or a loved one were diagnosed with terminal cancer I've a feeling you might be begging for anything that would give you a few days, weeks or possibly years and if not then insanity would be a better end for you . | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed "That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease! | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!" I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them. "A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo."*know | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
*know"If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
*know
If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate. "Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
*know
If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing. "So what's your idea of clinical trials then ? | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
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If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing. "Usually they will be trialling against existing treatment in these situations. And if it becomes apparent that the treatment is highly effective early on they will break the trial early. The people running the trial don’t necessarily need to be blinded (only the patients and treatment deliverers), as long as they have no communication. It’s the best way to ensure treatments actually work. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
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If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing.
So what's your idea of clinical trials then ?"I'm amazed you have to ask. In the circumstance of pain and impending death, I and my father would have rather he'd have been given a chance at life and given the treatment on trial. If it didn't work he'd have died. If it did work it would have helped him. Either relieving the symptoms or giving him extra time. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
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If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing.
So what's your idea of clinical trials then ?
I'm amazed you have to ask. In the circumstance of pain and impending death, I and my father would have rather he'd have been given a chance at life and given the treatment on trial. If it didn't work he'd have died. If it did work it would have helped him. Either relieving the symptoms or giving him extra time. "My sympathy for you and your father,but it's a clinical trial not a treatment. How would you have felt if he'd had a trial treatment and died, would you have thought he might have been better without treatment? Just look how people reacted to the COVID vaccine because it was fast tracked Unfortunately if they give a drug to everyone in a trial it proves nothing. A very sad fact of life though | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
*know
If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing.
So what's your idea of clinical trials then ?
I'm amazed you have to ask. In the circumstance of pain and impending death, I and my father would have rather he'd have been given a chance at life and given the treatment on trial. If it didn't work he'd have died. If it did work it would have helped him. Either relieving the symptoms or giving him extra time.
My sympathy for you and your father,but it's a clinical trial not a treatment.
How would you have felt if he'd had a trial treatment and died, would you have thought he might have been better without treatment? Just look how people reacted to the COVID vaccine because it was fast tracked
Unfortunately if they give a drug to everyone in a trial it proves nothing. A very sad fact of life though "Thanks appreciate it. Long time ago now but his misdiagnosis three times and treatment or lack of it has coloured my judgement of things nhs.. You may have noticed. You seem to be confusing real world human disease stuff with lab procedures. He wanted anything that would help, he was dying and in unrelievable pain, he didn't care if it was experimental or anything else. What he didn't want was a game of Russian roulette. Luckily he was compus mentis to the end. He was dying and in pain anyway,, so it's hard to think they could do something to make it any worse, save for fucking with his head and emotions by saying.... Yeah, there's something that might help you, but we may give it to you, or maybe we won't... But we won't tell you. It's a very strange thing. | |||
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"Some great news upon mRNA vaccines . The world's first lung cancer vaccine is now being administered, as part of it global trial. The first UK person is due their first dose this week. It should help the body to be trained to recognise and destroy specific markers of lung cancer. People with early to late stage and recurrent lung cancer will be involved.
To those of us who have lost loved ones to cancer, we can only hope that others won't have to experience anyone suffering in the future, as newer treatments become available. Obviously this is a trial and there's no guarantee that it will deliver the results that are wanted and expected. As long cancer is the world's leading cause of cancer death, this could be a significant step towards helping to reduce the impact of cancer. Fingers crossed
That's exciting news. Only if it could have come last year when a loved one was diagnosed with this disease!
I've had a similar experience, with a loved one passing, this past year and it would have been a luxury to have been able to have had their life saved, if this treatment had been effective and available for them.
A few years ago when my dad bless him was suffering and dying he'd have done anything to prolong his life. He asked the team if there were any experimental treatments he could try, just in case they worked, didn't care if they had been approved or not. They said yes there might be something but we have to tell you, you won't no if you're being given the experimental treatment or a placebo.
*know
If you're in a trial, it has to be double blind, for it to truly provide higher strength results. This is the way that millions are helped, off the back of those research trials. Only if something is prescribed off label, if it's already available for prescription, can we take risks that we might want to, when we're desperate.
Sure I understand the reason. But Pretty fucking cruel to the individual involved though. We might try and help you it we might give you a vitamin pill. If you're lucky you get the treatment, if youre unlucky you get nothing.
So what's your idea of clinical trials then ?
I'm amazed you have to ask. In the circumstance of pain and impending death, I and my father would have rather he'd have been given a chance at life and given the treatment on trial. If it didn't work he'd have died. If it did work it would have helped him. Either relieving the symptoms or giving him extra time. "Experimental treatments are designed and, to a lesser extent, produced - and to an event infinitesimally smaller extent, entering trials all the time. Some of those may eventually go into production and active use. If a trial medication is demonstrably positive, due to outstanding performance, it may be pushed for earlier use, as it's unethical not to. But, as the Thalidomide scandal showed, medications are potentially also devastating, hence far stronger controls today. Many people won't know the clearer details of experimental treatments, outside of the controlled conditions. It's a tough balancing act, that specialists take, wanting desperately to make a huge difference to so many lives but not wanting to harm anyone. Few of us are untouched by the devastating effects of those close to us potentially going too soon. We each of us do the very best that we can. | |||
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