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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." " True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence.. | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence.." indeed which were funded by Fauci and the CDC in America. Must just be a coincidence that gain of function testing of coronavirus was going on at a research lab, which had a very poor safety record, at the epicentre of the outbreak…?? Anyone who doesn’t believe that virus didn’t come from the lab really needs to have a word with themselves. | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence.." Says you! Are you saying there's no evidence this virus is one of many that the bat family experience? Or the transmission from bats to humans, with or without the middlemen? And think about this, if it was a breakout from a lab why did governments spend huge amounts researching vaccines when they could have saved money by just protecting the elite? Or maybe they realised they had to look at the bigger picture as it won't be another century before the next pandemic as we humans encroach upon more and more wildlife spaces? | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence..indeed which were funded by Fauci and the CDC in America. Must just be a coincidence that gain of function testing of coronavirus was going on at a research lab, which had a very poor safety record, at the epicentre of the outbreak…?? Anyone who doesn’t believe that virus didn’t come from the lab really needs to have a word with themselves. " I'll have a few words: well done you  | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence..indeed which were funded by Fauci and the CDC in America. Must just be a coincidence that gain of function testing of coronavirus was going on at a research lab, which had a very poor safety record, at the epicentre of the outbreak…?? Anyone who doesn’t believe that virus didn’t come from the lab really needs to have a word with themselves. I'll have a few words: well done you "over 120 wet food markets tested and no trace or links??? | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. " wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? | |||
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"over 120 wet food markets tested and no trace or links??? " Who did the tests? Was every wet market tested? When were the tests carried out? If there were links or traces would they be publicised? So many questions... | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? " Nothing is risk free. The vaccines were phenomenally good and effective, as covered above and relatively safe. | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? " The pandemic catastrophe has ended, with serious illnesses still a potential. It wasn't a plan to remove the virus from the face of the earth | |||
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"over 120 wet food markets tested and no trace or links??? Who did the tests? Was every wet market tested? When were the tests carried out? If there were links or traces would they be publicised? So many questions..." not sure but been they were in the limelight for it been a lableak from (chyna) i would of thought they would of made sure to find some evidence that its come from a natural source but 4/5 year later and nothing to back that up yet | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? The pandemic catastrophe has ended, with serious illnesses still a potential. It wasn't a plan to remove the virus from the face of the earth " so what were the plan?? | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? The pandemic catastrophe has ended, with serious illnesses still a potential. It wasn't a plan to remove the virus from the face of the earth so what were the plan?? " Development of vaccines to reduce deaths and serious illness | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? The pandemic catastrophe has ended, with serious illnesses still a potential. It wasn't a plan to remove the virus from the face of the earth so what were the plan?? " Development of vaccines to reduce deaths and serious illness, etc. it's worth brushing up on things, for your interest | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? " In the grand scheme of things, yes it is minimal. Millions of doses, a handful of serious side effects. What was the alternative? It was to continue lockdowns while people would keep on getting sick (filling up hospitals) and die. As a result of hospitals being full, more people would die for not getting treatment in time. In 2024 we still have people dying from the complications of a simple operation like removing the appendix. We won’t stop performing them, though, because we save the majority of them. Sorry, reality is rubbish, but reality nonetheless. | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? In the grand scheme of things, yes it is minimal. Millions of doses, a handful of serious side effects. What was the alternative? It was to continue lockdowns while people would keep on getting sick (filling up hospitals) and die. As a result of hospitals being full, more people would die for not getting treatment in time. In 2024 we still have people dying from the complications of a simple operation like removing the appendix. We won’t stop performing them, though, because we save the majority of them. Sorry, reality is rubbish, but reality nonetheless." either scenario would end up with loss of lives whether the way it were or without vaccines lockdowns ect and we will never know which may of been the better way to go about it theres arguments for and against all sides and scenarios and we all have an opinion on what we personally think | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? Nothing is risk free. The vaccines were phenomenally good and effective, as covered above and relatively safe. " You know, I came to the conclusion that this guy is just trolling. He’s getting to the point where he’ll repeat the same questions again. He probably think it’s a smart thing to do.  | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? In the grand scheme of things, yes it is minimal. Millions of doses, a handful of serious side effects. What was the alternative? It was to continue lockdowns while people would keep on getting sick (filling up hospitals) and die. As a result of hospitals being full, more people would die for not getting treatment in time. In 2024 we still have people dying from the complications of a simple operation like removing the appendix. We won’t stop performing them, though, because we save the majority of them. Sorry, reality is rubbish, but reality nonetheless.either scenario would end up with loss of lives whether the way it were or without vaccines lockdowns ect and we will never know which may of been the better way to go about it theres arguments for and against all sides and scenarios and we all have an opinion on what we personally think " Oh no, absolutely no. You have an opinion. I have data. Data show that the vaccines are safe, that we saved millions, that the side effects are rare and mostly harmless. So while I read the data and form an informed opinion and can take informed decisions, you base everything on your assumptions without having the competence to talk about vaccines, biology, medicine etc. Therefore I would say that your opinion is good for trying some anal on yourself | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? Nothing is risk free. The vaccines were phenomenally good and effective, as covered above and relatively safe. You know, I came to the conclusion that this guy is just trolling. He’s getting to the point where he’ll repeat the same questions again. He probably think it’s a smart thing to do. "ill ask the same questions because you never give an answer for them just come back with snidey digs and say (vaccines worked so we keep getting them) im not the one who runs off to the lounge and starts a thread telling tales haha im not trolling and would gladly sit down and have a proper conversation/debate whatever you want to call it | |||
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"Health is an important discussion, for any time or reason, especially when it comes to socialising. Forgive me if I'm wrong but this website and forums are for people to connect so they can socialise and make contact. Why would it mean nothing to discuss health?" It would appear it's more about discussing conspiracy theories than health | |||
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"over 120 wet food markets tested and no trace or links??? Who did the tests? Was every wet market tested? When were the tests carried out? If there were links or traces would they be publicised? So many questions...not sure but been they were in the limelight for it been a lableak from (chyna) i would of thought they would of made sure to find some evidence that its come from a natural source but 4/5 year later and nothing to back that up yet " Who are 'they'? Do you think China, one of the most closed societies, would put something out in the public domain if it reflected badly on them? | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence.." Humans get viruses from wildlife - it's been true throughout our entire evolutionary history. | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence.. Humans get viruses from wildlife - it's been true throughout our entire evolutionary history." Humans conspire in wrong doing - it’s been true throughout our entire evolutionary history. | |||
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" "still laugh when I hear about the man made virus (no evidence whatsoever but people like you like to bang about it)." True but there is little to no evidence it's zoonotic either. The fact that there was a level 4 bio lab in the area of the outbrake, that was doing gain of function research on Covid virus's and had a shady safety record is a pretty big coincidence..indeed which were funded by Fauci and the CDC in America. Must just be a coincidence that gain of function testing of coronavirus was going on at a research lab, which had a very poor safety record, at the epicentre of the outbreak…?? Anyone who doesn’t believe that virus didn’t come from the lab really needs to have a word with themselves. " That's not evidence it's hearsay | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? Nothing is risk free. The vaccines were phenomenally good and effective, as covered above and relatively safe. You know, I came to the conclusion that this guy is just trolling. He’s getting to the point where he’ll repeat the same questions again. He probably think it’s a smart thing to do. ill ask the same questions because you never give an answer for them just come back with snidey digs and say (vaccines worked so we keep getting them) im not the one who runs off to the lounge and starts a thread telling tales haha im not trolling and would gladly sit down and have a proper conversation/debate whatever you want to call it "You received the answer many many times. If you don’t accept it, it’s not my problem | |||
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"Pm me some date specific data to (prove) vaxs work and i will study it and give you some possibilties to the numbers " It should be you providing data that they don’t work. Because it is a universally accepted scientific truth that they work. You and a few others claim the contrary: show me your data. I’ll get the popcorn | |||
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"It would be nice to know the amount of the true data of which ones covid caused the death rather than just a contributing factor ! As I know contributing factors are not always related to the death. Anybody know? Because this data alone would show the true devastation ( if any) of the virus! I feel for the generations from now having to struggle to cover the costs of the lockdowns and thier futures! " It's currently 57 | |||
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"Side effects were minimal, for such brilliant vaccines that ended the catastrophic impacts of the pandemic. Millions kept safe. wouldn't say death to some were minimal nor do i hear its ended??? Just part of everyday life now isnt it? Nothing is risk free. The vaccines were phenomenally good and effective, as covered above and relatively safe. " Its that word relative people seem to overlook. Relative to the families if the people that died it was completely tragic and the risk too high. For the rest of the population the vaccines were amazingly effective and brought life back to as we know it. In a numbers game it absolutely was the way to go, the deaths in comparison to number vaccinated are miniscule. But i also appreciate it is callous to talk about a numbers game when the numbers are peoples lives. | |||
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"It would be nice to know the amount of the true data of which ones covid caused the death rather than just a contributing factor ! As I know contributing factors are not always related to the death. Anybody know? Because this data alone would show the true devastation ( if any) of the virus! I feel for the generations from now having to struggle to cover the costs of the lockdowns and thier futures! " Contributing factor data can be very misleading. I know people with cancer that does in hospital of pneumonia. If they hadnt had cancer, their immune system depleted they wouldnt have caught the pneumonia and wouldnt have died. Cancer would be listed as a contributing factor not cause of death but all logic tells you its the cancer that started the chain of events | |||
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"No side effects for me, I never took the jabs, screw that." So why bother posting on a thread about side effects of taking f the vaccine? Does it make you feel big? | |||
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"No side effects for me, I never took the jabs, screw that." I never had mine either and I am so glad I didn't. Mr R had awful side effects! Mrs R | |||
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"Shoot me now for my comment, BUT....its all population control for an overcrowded planet. Sad loss of many lives, including some of our friends. " Are you saying the virus is about population control? If so, it failed miserably. | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, " Death rates are higher than average since the covid roll out. Apart from one year which was massively higher than any recent year. It was 2020 the year before the vaccine roll out. So what caused the excess there? You are blaming the rise in death rate on covid vaccinations rather than covid and long covid and in the uk austerity? 2020 death rate is way higher than 2021 2022 and 2023. If you look at Australia or New Zealand you have consider that upto a point they had a near total lockdowns. | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, " Common? I think not | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, " Lol that's the best antivaxxers misinformation yet. RARE means it doesn't happen very often, not a rare form of blood clot. Comedy classic | |||
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"Shoot me now for my comment, BUT....its all population control for an overcrowded planet. Sad loss of many lives, including some of our friends. Are you saying the virus is about population control? If so, it failed miserably." Yep, they'd have completely missed the targeted victims too  | |||
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"Shoot me now for my comment, BUT....its all population control for an overcrowded planet. Sad loss of many lives, including some of our friends. Are you saying the virus is about population control? If so, it failed miserably. Yep, they'd have completely missed the targeted victims too "Why would governments want to reduce the population and then spend tens of billions on medical treatment, furlough schemes etc etc to support the very same population they were trying to get rid of? I don't think you've thought your argument through  | |||
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"Whos to say who the target victims were to know if they were missed? " Think about it  | |||
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"You lot must be fun at a party. I'm selling tinfoil hats and chemtrail umbrellas if anyone wants one?" haha no ive got enough thanks  | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, Lol that's the best antivaxxers misinformation yet. RARE means it doesn't happen very often, not a rare form of blood clot. Comedy classic "Actually in this case it's both. | |||
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"I did and the elderly cost the most to keep they've said countless time peopke live too long now after retirement " What an obnoxious thought, new lows. | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, Lol that's the best antivaxxers misinformation yet. RARE means it doesn't happen very often, not a rare form of blood clot. Comedy classic
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"I did and the elderly cost the most to keep they've said countless time peopke live too long now after retirement What an obnoxious thought, new lows." Once again trying to justify a personal decision not to take a vaccine based on fantasy and ridicule rather than fact. | |||
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"I did and the elderly cost the most to keep they've said countless time peopke live too long now after retirement What an obnoxious thought, new lows. Once again trying to justify a personal decision not to take a vaccine based on fantasy and ridicule rather than fact." the fact is we didnt die neither do we ever have the chance of any side effects why woyld i ever need to justify that | |||
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"I did and the elderly cost the most to keep they've said countless time peopke live too long now after retirement What an obnoxious thought, new lows. Once again trying to justify a personal decision not to take a vaccine based on fantasy and ridicule rather than fact.the fact is we didnt die neither do we ever have the chance of any side effects why woyld i ever need to justify that " Why keep trying then ? Constantly quoting hearsay effects of a drug you've no experience of ? | |||
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"I did and the elderly cost the most to keep they've said countless time peopke live too long now after retirement What an obnoxious thought, new lows. Once again trying to justify a personal decision not to take a vaccine based on fantasy and ridicule rather than fact.the fact is we didnt die neither do we ever have the chance of any side effects why woyld i ever need to justify that Why keep trying then ? Constantly quoting hearsay effects of a drug you've no experience of ?" I suggest to stop replying to these people. Their opinion, based on nothing but fear and hearsay, has no importance whatsoever. In fact, almost everyone has been vaccinated and we know they work and are safe. Let them babble as much as they want, although I admit it’s fun (in small doses) to see them go crazy at the thought they believed in a load of conspiracy theories and bs | |||
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"There have been between 10-14 percent more deaths than usually expected since the roll out of the vaccine , these figures are at the highest in the countries with the higher vaccination figures , officially these figures have been published (from memory) in Australia a few European countries and i think the UK , allegedly more additional deaths have been recorded in the UK in the last couple of years than deaths during the blitz ,But no one is talking about it , Astra Zenica have admitted that the vaccine they produced was causing "RARE" Blood clots ,myocarditis is another common vaccine induced side affect , if the pharma companies are having to admit anything you can rest assured its much bigger than they say, " Alright, Andrew bridgen. This is a big fat lie, even for you | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life " Probably the most passive aggressive post we’ve seen for a while. Perhaps we should rename this forum page in honour of you. | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer "Not sure what you found insulting? | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer "Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life " 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots " they'd be good odds if i were a betting man | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer
Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise "Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe. Yours is bollocks, hearsay, fear, chickening out, and big fat lies | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots they'd be good odds if i were a betting man " The problem is you could have been asymptomatic and still have the high risk of long term effects such a has been shown in new Zealand. And that risk is much greater than the risk of the vaccine. You made your choices, no point looking back but it's kinda bizarre you start restart a thread about side effects of a vaccine you never had and write the same stuff in the one that was closed. It's like there's some sort of fear in your mind. | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer
Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise
Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe.
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots they'd be good odds if i were a betting man The problem is you could have been asymptomatic and still have the high risk of long term effects such a has been shown in new Zealand. And that risk is much greater than the risk of the vaccine. You made your choices, no point looking back but it's kinda bizarre you start restart a thread about side effects of a vaccine you never had and write the same stuff in the one that was closed. It's like there's some sort of fear in your mind." People that where asymptomatic, vaccinated or not are at much lower risk of having and long term side effects from covid. Where have you seen it say that the risk of a asymptomatic covid infection having a "high" chance of long covid? | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer
Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise
Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe.
Yours is bollocks, hearsay, fear, chickening out, and big fat lies
You have posted your fair share of factual incorrect information.."I love when you anti vaxxers go crazy | |||
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"Off with the insults again when we hear something we dont like lol but your entitled your opinion and thanks for the kind offer
Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise
Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe.
Yours is bollocks, hearsay, fear, chickening out, and big fat lies
You have posted your fair share of factual incorrect information..
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Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise
Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe.
Yours is bollocks, hearsay, fear, chickening out, and big fat lies "unfortunately safe work and fact are opinions but you tell yourself that if it makes you feel better | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots " Ah well if we are playing that game… 7 unvaccinated people with no side effects from Covid I’m assuming 3 is actually vaccinated people with no side effects from either Covid or the Vaccines? I bet we could keep adding categories all day! | |||
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"Please explain what fear i could possibly have?? " The fear that seems to be holding you back from moving on with your life and letting COVID conspiracy theories get to you. You didn't get the vaccine, you didn't want the vaccine, you won't have side effects from the vaccine. You've escaped COVID so far as we know. Why start another thread, didn't you make your views clear on the last one ? Not many agreed with you but you gave your views ? | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots they'd be good odds if i were a betting man The problem is you could have been asymptomatic and still have the high risk of long term effects such a has been shown in new Zealand. And that risk is much greater than the risk of the vaccine. You made your choices, no point looking back but it's kinda bizarre you start restart a thread about side effects of a vaccine you never had and write the same stuff in the one that was closed. It's like there's some sort of fear in your mind. People that where asymptomatic, vaccinated or not are at much lower risk of having and long term side effects from covid. Where have you seen it say that the risk of a asymptomatic covid infection having a "high" chance of long covid?" Theres an ongoing study in New Zealand. Don't know why I put "high" chance, that's a mistake,we all make them but according to the study there's a chance as some are suffering and data is being complied. | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots Ah well if we are playing that game… 7 unvaccinated people with no side effects from Covid I’m assuming 3 is actually vaccinated people with no side effects from either Covid or the Vaccines? I bet we could keep adding categories all day!" You could add that 8 No brown bears are known to have developed long COVID. | |||
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Your entitled to your opinion, mate. Just, you’re not entitled to your own fact and likewise
Mine are fact. Scientifically proven, the vaccines work and are safe.
Yours is bollocks, hearsay, fear, chickening out, and big fat lies unfortunately safe work and fact are opinions but you tell yourself that if it makes you feel better "Absolutely no, facts and opinions are completely different things! The fact you don’t know the difference, explains a lot | |||
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"Please explain what fear i could possibly have?? The fear that seems to be holding you back from moving on with your life and letting COVID conspiracy theories get to you. You didn't get the vaccine, you didn't want the vaccine, you won't have side effects from the vaccine. You've escaped COVID so far as we know. Why start another thread, didn't you make your views clear on the last one ? Not many agreed with you but you gave your views ?" That’s the interesting thing with anti vaxxers and covid denialisms, psychologically speaking: since the rollout of vaccines everyone moved on and we went back to our usual lives. Apart from them. They keep thinking that there’s a massive conspiracy, or that millions are dying, or they just can’t stop talking about it because deep inside they realised they believed in a load of bollocks but admitting they were wrong is too difficult and painful. Honestly, psychiatrists could build a career on that | |||
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"We didnt beleive in a load of crasy theories we just simply didnt beleive the sales pitch some of you went for, the simple matter is theres 5 groups of people 1 dead vaccinated people 2 vaccinated people with side effects 3 alive vaccinated people 4 dead unvaxxinated people 5 alive unvaxxinated people Thats as simple as it gets. 1 of them groups is happy with their decision and that wont ever have any long term side affects to change their decision the other groups have or might have regrets later on in life 6 unvaccinated people suffering long term effects of COVID including blood clots Ah well if we are playing that game… 7 unvaccinated people with no side effects from Covid I’m assuming 3 is actually vaccinated people with no side effects from either Covid or the Vaccines? I bet we could keep adding categories all day! You could add that 8 No brown bears are known to have developed long COVID. " Why would we do that though? The other categories are all demonstrably true! | |||
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"Haha love it when you get all giddy we didnt need to move on because nothing really changed carried on as usual just with some common sense caution to others " Actually, a lot changed. You know, social distancing, lockdowns, masks, washing hands, regular testing… Then we found a way to go back to normal…by vaccinating the population! Yep, the vaccines saved the world. Deal with it
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"The only fact you could say is true that u mentioned is covid deaths slowed down but you cannot say that its because of jabs that is opinion based theres too many factors that will of helped reduce the numbers as ive mention over and over and over again " Of course I can say it. And that’s scientifically proven. Yes there are other factors. But the rate of infection and mortality in the entire population decreased after the vaccine rollout. And the same effect was seen in the rest of the world. That’s quite easy to understand, even for simple minds. I mean, even if you can’t read scientific literature (you definitely can’t, since you don’t know the difference between opinion and fact) that’s literally in your face!
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"So lockdowns, personnel hygiene/sanitising, social distancing, natural immunity,working from home, masks, deaths, people fleeing the country to be home with family, isolation none of these had any affect on reducing death numbers no? Just all the super vax and that alone u talk some waffle "we had all of those from the beginning and the situation was dire. We vaccinated people and we sorted the issue.
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"And as for falling for bollocks haha i had all faith in my bodys immune system been fortunate to be fit and healthy and a young/ish age that i thought why would i need some new jab to help fight something me and the wife have already had. So what did i fall for??? " Ok lozza fox, yeah sure you didn’t fall for any bollock | |||
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"So lockdowns, personnel hygiene/sanitising, social distancing, natural immunity,working from home, masks, deaths, people fleeing the country to be home with family, isolation none of these had any affect on reducing death numbers no? Just all the super vax and that alone u talk some waffle "They all worked, then after the majority of people were vaccinated the other measures were dropped and the deaths reduced even farther. Maybe they'll make a movie to remind you as you seem to have forgotten | |||
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"Not sure why u keep saying lozza fox or what it is but u make sure you keep topped up, hand face space and take care hope you all the best "Really? Haven't you read anything, we've moved on years ago from hands face space or whatever this is 2024 lol And no need for top ups, the vaccine has done it's job and now only available to the old and those will immune issues. Really, you need to do some reading. | |||
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"Why do I get the sense of "my dad is bigger than your dad" with this thread? "How true! I do think it’s time to move on although I still cannot get over the fab posters who advocated removing unvaccinated people from society, losing their jobs, refusing access to public spaces, calling them murderers, even going so far as mentioning rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps. Absolutely fucking disgusting behaviour. I remember many of the posters who said stuff along those lines. Most have gone. But one is posting in this thread! | |||
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"Ive read more than enough to confirm i personally made the right decision for me " We know | |||
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